rogers123 sifu, how to see JAKS futures? teach me, can?

Suregain sifu, die lor, die lor, DJI dropped another 76 points. Now not only US car sales dropped, US share market oso dropped...

gohku sifu, analyst always tok 2 ways to protect themselves.. On one hand tell you WEAK EARNINGS (so you have been warned) On the other hand, they said still got hope, still save their face to MAINTAIN RM1.5 target price.

BUT: given their best case scenario TP RM1.50... how much is the upside?

some BIG trader sifu say they never wanna touch stock which is below SMA 200... dunno why

I dunno la... I hear a lot of TA terms, dunno can be use on JAKS or not... can TA sifu tell me or not?

1. down trend -- got ah?
2. Gap down -- got ah?
3. Big down Candle -- got ah?
4 Break important/strong support -- got ah?
5 Big Volume when the price fall -- got ah?
6. Dead cross - got ah?
7. Beilow SMA/EMA 20,50,100, 200 - got ah?

Dunno how KYY look the chart leh? I am very interested to learn how he interpret the TA of JAKS. and what action to be taken, I wanna learn super-investor skill. Hope he will write an article to teach the stupid-loser...

AND hor,,, KYY followers got to know ... KYY not only buy on fundamental, he oso look chart. He wrote about he learn Technical Analysis & this & that,,,

Hello, some TA sifu please come out tok how JAKS TA looks like now...

AND hor... to calculate the IRR, JAKS needs to estimate the future net cash inflows... kakaka, you know estimates la.. some more power plant is meant for very long term...and everybody knows the longer the time period the more difficult to get accuracy,,,,

no sifu wanna teach me what is IRR and how to use it, so I have to google and got a rough idea:

IRR rate is the rate that the company need to earn to break even the capital outlay.. that mean the returns must be 12% for dunno how many N years (until the power plant stop producing income) just to get back 7bil capital cost at net present value. and the returns...

AND hor, this is not how we use IRR. it needs to compare to the company capital cost. If the company capital cost is more than 12% die lor, that mean that is a money loosing project in Net Present Value terms... else the project is worth investing..

QUESTION:

What is the capital cost of JAKS? anybody know? dunno than mean you think you can have 7bil x 12% after project is completed, kakaka, mati lor like that...

I see ppl use 7 bil X 12%.. I think not that way lor... can some big sifu teach?

now come, lets tok JAKS vietnam project. Lets say everything is according what JAKS hope.. IRR of 12%. Any sifu know what is IRR? IRR 12% veli good one arr?

gushan sifu, yes, FPG group, this unkwon sifu veli geng one arr? I bot FPG without studying one wor, I follow one friend to buy oni...

I may oso buy JAKS because KYY bot, kakaka, he oso a factor to cause the share price move up down ma..

one day JAKS turn out to be good, and if I happened to notice that, I may buy oso

me dun wanna tok bad JAKS.

there is one thing on earth call "conflict of interest"

KYY is a business man, a trader, or an investor, whatever.... he is here to make money from the market... and you... are the market...

you got to think and decide on your own

i dun wanna, I cannot, I am unable, and I am no one to tell you this stock that stock will sure up or sure collapse... including JAKS.

do you have sufficient info and knowledge to be more certain the outcome with skew to what you WISH?

but whether the wish come true... that you have to wait...but do you wanna wait .. the longer the time period, the more variable can affect the outcome...

lizi sifu, there is always hope for every counter.

dragonslayer sifu, I wanna learn from KYY ma.. how can dun look what he buy and read what he have said. sifu teach kungfu for free dun want learn, want die arr?

keke sifu, I oso into FPG.. starting 70+ sen

if entry price is low enuf, then no worry on JAKS, big boys dun throw, it wont go down too much and when things turn slightly better, they will sing good songs and the price bounce back. but who knows if they decide to throw?

even fundamental good oso no use if he throw down.. dun fight with big gun

actually, i am intereted to look at JAKS oso, but when see KYY promote so hard, then got to think twice

keke sifu, I actually sold a lot of Gadang recently, not that it is no good, but the big players wanna collect. When they wanna collect, they press like mad.. I channelled part of the money to to JHM and GBG. one made almost double, another got 10sen, GBG son lagi baik. more than 10% in a week or 2. later la, wait the big boys collect enuf and the price will move, then pay a little premium to buy back some...

I never call those loss money in stock market is "stupid loser" If ppl loss money, U wanna help, help la, wanna teach, teach la, dun call ppl "stupid loser". and who are you that can always be right?

I no say bad word ma

U can check if KYY articles and comment not yet deleted.

JJchan sifu, I just tell what i see ma..

who ask you to become a "stupid losser" wor....

Robin Hood, although a robber.thief, is still better, at least he identified bad rich guy to rob and than DONATE... but preying in share market, the crocodile dun care whether you good or poor, just wallap....then Donate....

come on la,,, you are his competitors.... and he got a lot of stock... of corse you better hold on your stock wait for higher price....

if you got competitors who oso wanna sell at a good price, and you wanna sell to make profit, would you tell your competitor so that they cut your price and sell cheaper than you?

tok his famous "Business Sense" ... if you want to buy some thing, you wanna tell ppl so that ppl chase up the price so that you buy more expensively? or you will buy quietly until enough for yourself, I mean you dun want any more and hope to sell already...and when you wanna sell, would you tell ppl it is veli expensive? or you sell it quietly or tell ppl it is still cheap and is a good buy...

If he aim for making money by selling to other investors, the higher the share price, the better, yes?

If he aim for company to give him money, the cheaper the share price, the better, yes?

Actually veli simple, KYY is in the market to make profit, yes? so who will give him the money? company, or other investors?

Just that he got money to buy more expensive than me.

calvintaneng sifu, no la. when I bot Gadang, KYY dunno where...

what you know about JAKS was told by crocodile, U follow his lead....his way of thinking, and he know what you will do next.... kakaka

if you buy, crocodile keep selling...

only when nobody is buying than the corcordile will suport or pull the price up...kakaka

who can stand if JAKS were to show you 3 big black candles starting from today?

later KYY do magic, sailang sales... and after the price crash, sailang buy... then tell you "margin is so good..."

cut loss oso veli fast... but many ppl dun cut and see the price getting lower...

2-3 sen profit hng33 can run fast fast...

gushan sifu, hng33 sifu is fast hand sifu, but many ppl "long term investor"

He did this in Gadang oh... and Gadang that time still making profits... and just week before he changed his mind, he still challenge ppl "dare to buy Gadang or not" ... then at AGM he took photo with his "ex-employee" Gadang bossy, said Gadang still looking good, and shortly after he apologized said he was wrong about Gadang. Imagine if he do it again on JAKS... What? He cannot admit mistake one arr?