wow ! If it really falls to RM 0.70 - RM 0.50 ( bonus ) really cheap sale ! If it really happens, hahaha, by all means mortgage the house to get cash to buy ! But....I doubt it will go that low ?

Ya....I agree with what Koyak71 said ! Dont sell and keep it ! If it goes down further, buy some more to average it ! Remember the IPO price was RM 1.45 ! RM 1.01 now is = 30% discount of the IPO price !

duitKWSPkita .....my opinion ....mayt be you can wait and see how is the response from PMC investors reaction if PMC management fails to announce the capital repayment and share consolidation etc plans by 31 Dec 2013 ! We were all informed dateline for these announcements is 31/12/2013 ! Few days to go ! For me, if the price goes below 0.20 cts, I may buy some to average my current high holdings !

vinvin...These are chinese idioms, literally speaking, they mean this season is full of unfavourable events happening to this stock and its future ( money future ) looks dim !

真是多事之秋, 可说是多災多难, 前(錢)途 茫茫 !

The current commission rate is more than enough esp those unit manager earning very handsome over riding commission from his or her down lines ! Frankly, insurance companies should review and reduce the over riding commission! Some unit managers just like Tua pek kong sitting and doing nothing and earning handsome commission from their downline agents ! Personally, the insurance companies should take some over riding commission percentage and increase the insurance agent commission ! Frankly, these insurance agents should pay better than the unit heads or managers as insurance agents are the one who do the running and servicing the insured clients !

You check with them. They have this type of cash direct account charged only min RM 8 !

smalltimer new trading account cheaper comms. minimum only rm8...so it safe me when i sell :) my existing one minimum is rm12 so buy/sell is RM24

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yes ...smalltimer....Last time I was charged like yours also min RM 12 but now I changed to HLebroking what they called Hong Leong direct cash account and the charge is RM8 min and brokerage fee is 0.1% ! RM 4 is great difference !

PM Corp - WE WANT A CAPITAL REDUCTION, ... WE WANT A CASH PAYOUT, ... WE WANT A CAPITAL CONSOLIDATION

WE WANT A CAPITAL REDUCTION, ... WE WANT A CASH PAYOUT, ... WE WANT A CAPITAL CONSOLIDATION

HLebroking is the best ! My recommendation !

Personally, I will take the risk of puting my money in PMC, not in WEIDA - year high price and moreover, to my knowledge - this is a politic stock !

wow ! with so many Tudor Gold and Tango chocolate loyal customers .....the future of this PMC looks good and promising ! I am surprised even Tudor Gold and Tango chocolate show their presence in Hong Kong 4 star hotels when I stayed there few months ago ! The hotel served the room guests with these stuff !

lee9fold kelvin tsai...u mean sold out?

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Yes...surprised ? Especially Tudor Gold Dark chocolate ( 55% cocoa ) 55 g bar ! No stock available for sale for the last few weeks ! Might be a lot of people aware of the the good thing eating dark chocolate ! Moreover, one who read this thread will notice a lot of postings by Calvin the benefit of eating dark chocolate ! This good news might spread around to those who read this thread ! NFI management should take note of this selling trend and produce more Tudor Gold Dark chocolate for sale ! Those relatives and friends whiom I gave them to eat have good comments on this Tudor Gold Dark chocolate also !

wow.....market really quiet this afternoon ! Can even hear the housefly flying sound !

I LIKE this part posted bytsurukame :

While there is still some time to decide before making the decision I would like to recommend that all Naysayers and Fence sitters to check out relative prices, the merchandizing display of PMC chocolates versus the competitors, buy some TUDOR Gold Milk Chocolates, TANGO Milk chocolates, VAN HHOUTEN Milk Chocolates, CADBURY milk chocolates in small packs , take off the packaging and give it to your family members(without packaging) to taste the samples that you had bought and ask for their feedback on which do they like in terms of taste preference. After tasting each type, please ask yout tasters to drink water to wash away the previous taste before tasting the other samples.

After having done this, Please ask yourself and your family members/friends truthfully whether you like the taste of TUDOR, TANGO and having tasted it, would you /they buy it again. Check out on the price affordability versus the other brands......

Since Christmas is just around, have some fun doing this exercise...

Yes....only if the share consolidates eg 4 into 1 then the target of reaching to RM 1.50 till RM 10.00 will materialise and go along with what Calvin had said on par with Dutch Lady share in 10 years time if the chocolate business really goes well ! But it must come with capital repayment at the same time ! My views.....

Now is durian harvest season ! A lot of PMC ' investors , including me, are hoping the ripe durian drops from the tree by 31 Dec 2013 ? hahaha... dream on .....

Buying share is buying future ' hope' ! This is why people want to put their hard earn money in stock market to buy future ' hope ' ! But how many people really make It ? If in life, one has no ' dream ' then his or her life will be miserable ! Every body must have dream ! Share market is the best place for ' dreamed ' people to dream for the coming future, but must be able to stand firm and accept the fact if the dream not come his or her way ! Hahahaha....just share some of my thoughts on dreams in share market ....

Personally, I think it is almost time to go in at this price 0.125 to 0.130 now ?

Last time IPO was 0.50 cts ! Even if this counter not moving that fast , but I think at leastit will go back to IPO price !

Dear OTB .... You did say you will make some comments on PMC if the share price breaks 0.255 ! Now is 0.240 ! Don't mind to share please ? TQ ! Rgds !

I really enjoy Ayam Tua postings ! You really made my days ! Keep it up and continue posting your amusing and fantastic postings ! TQ ! GBU always !

Tewnama.... I vote A ....TQ

Posted by mikekong55 > Dec 7, 2013 07:55 AM | Report Abuse

ayamtua/zu1967/hepitrade/kelvin tsai, DJI closed 198points up on friday. hope this rise can help uplift the sentiments of pmcorp. support still strong @23.5/0.24; sincerely wish this stock can make a strong move. good luck my friend's

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Mikekong55 ....TQ very much for your feed back on DJI up and probably this counter might get some tech rebound on Monday ! I more or less made up my mind and might dispose all or part of my holdings when the price is upstream ! Might keep some to try my luck on the announcement of cash payout before end of this year ! But personally, I think very slim chance ! I went in big ( might be others same like me ) cos of the attractive cash payout which is the stimulant to drive up this counter to 0.365 cts ! From what I can see via this thread all the info and those old uncles who ever held this group shares who were burned to charcoal years ago and the style of management and recent developments in the company plus betting on chocolate business only
,this company cant grow big at all, so do the share price ! I am not surprised, if the cash payment is not materialised, the share price will drift back to the original starting point ! Well...life is like that esp those involved in share trading must be able to take loss lightly ! I will be using ah Q mentality concept that whatever amount I lost on this counter is like I have spent a 10 days Europe tour for my whole family ! I sincerely wish you and your family have a blessed and enjoyable Europe tour and will bring back all the sweet memory of the trip after you come back to Msia ! May our almighty GOD bless you and your family always and forever ! Amen !

Well......from what were transpired here - game over .....those who bought above 0.28 cts - mati koko ! Need to have cool mind now to cut loss or hold ?

tewnama....too late - sudah committed ini counter ! Saya tahu counter ini punya uncle khoo share ! Initially, saya harap capital repayment but lately thing changed esp CFO Mr Ho resigned - takut captial repayment ta jadi ! no choice lah - need to take risk to hold this counter and keep on buying to average it sebab saya beli tinggi lebih 0.28 cts !

I Q buy 0.230 to average but price not reach today ! Mikekong55, you think tomorrow can go down to 0.230 ? Thanks !

Mikekong55 ....your prediction is right today ? Please predict tomorrow price ? Thanks !

Hollan bererti rugi duit ! kawan !

Posted by humbled > Dec 5, 2013 01:16 PM | Report Abuse

I like what the company does and will hold for at least another 2 quarters to confirm whether the company is turning around. I 100% agree that a cash pay out is a confidence booster to the investors but IF the 'promised' payout is not announced by end of this month, the management's credibility will be questioned by many. I think the management is well aware of that.

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Posted by Kukuman > Dec 5, 2013 01:28 PM | Report Abuse

Good. Can share how many years u intend to stay invested with the company?
By the way, "as long as PMC is managed professional" is a very serious words. Can they? Can they explain why cfo "resigned" at the last minute? Cfo is someone deal with financial, another word is money, true? Cfo is professional position and the person has a license governed under a professional body. Once u lost your professional license due to integrity issue, there goes his or her livelihood. On the other hand, directorship is not a professional position.

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The above 2 statements made real sense and this is the concern of many who bought above 0.28 cts ! Personally, I doubt this ' promised ' payout will materialise as what I read through over 7k messages in this PMC thread and the untimely resignation of CFO Mr Ho ! It looks like what the chinese saying : 江山易改, 本性離移 meaning literally one can move a mountain but not the character is happening here ! Look at the ongoing down 0.005 to 0.010 cts daily, heart must get ready to see the original start moving price soon ? Hope my worry will not come true ? God bless ....

Personally, I think, as long as there is a cash payout or capital repayment, then every thing will be fine - this is the utimate aim of those who invested in this counter around 0.28 cts and above recently ! But......will this come true ? Only God knows .....

Posted by tsurukame > Dec 4, 2013 06:29 PM | Report Abuse

People come people go....that happens in every organization especially towards the year end...Is PMC business affected by the latest development...Is one man so critical that the entire PMC business just collapses ?? Who is the CEO of PMC? Who are the management team members in PMC?

As Investors it is important to stay focussed to ask these critical questions..

"Is the business model and business strategy of PMC impaired by the resignation of the CFO ?"
What is the graham net net intrinsic valuation of PMC...Is current price above or below the Intrinsic valuation??
What is the cash backing per share for PMC?

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YES, I 101% agree with your statement but the current scenario is totally different ! Recently, a lot of us bought around 0.28 cts to 0.35 cts were to anticipate capital repayment and hope it will come true before end of this year ! If that CFO Mr Ho resigns after the capital repayment announcement is made, that will be different story but just feel a bit weired the timing he resigned now which made a lot of ' hopeful ' PM corp investors a big shock ! For those who just bought 20, 30 or 50 lots will not make great impact, but those who bought over few hundred or even few thousand lots, the impact is really big ! If this is what we called capital repayment not really come true, I start to worry the share price might slowly go back to its original starting point at 0.07 cts and becomes dormant ! For those who collected around 10 to 15 cts - not much of the worry simply cos they make less ! I am not blaming any one here but just that luck is not with us as the timing of CFO Mr Ho resigned at this time ! Just let us ( those who bought 0.28 cts and above ) keep our fingers crossed that the capital repayment will come true ?

Really sad ! This bad news for sure will affect the share price in the coming days ?

Market very quiet might be due to lousy system which makes a lot of people stay sideways ! If you see the many complaints in the Investlah.com forum, you will see the impact ! I am just wondering the old system worked very well , why they want to change to new system ? One will notice the current system the Active ( volume ) no more like last time showing the top high trading volume on 1st line and next high trading volume in the 2nd line and so forth, instead it shows buying percentage only on each individual page ? Any one has comments on this new system ? Frankly speaking, I dont like this new system at all !

Calvin....you dont mind to share or advise if one wants to become one of PMC board of directors, how many PMC shares he or she needs to own before he or she can apply for this position ?

Posted by sharem > Dec 2, 2013 01:34 PM | Report Abuse

It is God who has given people the ability to produce wealth to become rich. So when one is rich dont forget the poor and needy. To me I notice rich people are stingy and poor people are generous. The rich keep the wealth to themselves and the poor outgive the rich.

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Sharem .... you are absolutely right ! Most rich people are stingy and selfish - this is why they are rich and become richer and richer whereas those poor people become poorer and poorer as they are generous and help and donate to those needy ! I strongly believe in Karma teaching, that is at the end of the day, those kind heart and generous ' poor ' people have all the good deeds credit in their life account and these creidts will convert into blessings and in turn these blessings will overflow and pass over to their next and next generations !

I noted PMC is in the Syariah compliance list ! Will this help inn the buying volume from fund managers ?

Ya ! up 0.01 cts closing at 0.205 ! Buying volume is encouraing ! Sign of good things coming on the way ?

MUIIND ( 3891 ) is up 0.01 cts at 0.205 and noticed last minute buying volume is encouraging ? PMC last min also saw buying volume increased ! Some signs of good thing coming ?

Today closed at 0.265 cts ! Time to go in !

Mohamad Azeman hope one day this counter can shoot up like tms

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Mohamad , you are right ! The pattern looks like TMS pattern !

Never expect this counter drops so much ! Now 0.09 cts ! Just have to look for some extra money to buy low and average the high purchase !

Tudor Gold Dark Chocolate ( 55% cocoa ), as far as I am concerned, is selling well esp to those who have the knowledge of dark chocolate is good for heart ! Moreover, the Tudor Gold Dark chocolate tastes fantastic and not that sweet ! Personally, I would suggest : PMC management should take this oppportunity and create awareness to lure more consumers to eat dark chocolate because it is good for heart ! One way, I think, the management can get some one to make a TV documentary program on ' The Advantage Of Eating Dark chocolate ' and telecast on TV esp NTV7 and at the same time introduce to TV viewers " Tudor Gold " Dark chocolate ? If it goes well and the Tudor Gold Dark chocolate sales go up, increase the production so as to gain more Dark chocolate market share !

Calvin Tan....what I see is the paid up capital share of this MUIIND is too hugh - 2932.56 millions share , though the PAR value is good at $1 ! With this hugh number of share, to me, it is very difficult to move up at all unless the trading volume is v hugh ? As you can see from past trading record, the daily transactions was just over 1 to 7 millions share only ? With this small volume, how could this share price moves up ? Can you enlighten me on this ?

Tudor gold and Tango chocolate bars show presence in international markets like Singapore and Hong Kong - this is the blessings ! but of course, if can conquere some market share in Malaysia - that is most perfect ! Hope the sales teams of NFI can do something ?

mikekong55 pmcorp as I see it can never be HUP SENG/APOLLO not even in the next century. take a look at the management most of them getting in age and not ambitious. take a look at this focal aim,why price shoot up like nobody business. the only reason that come to my mind is the good management team of the company that taking over it. when people talk about Tansri liew there knows he build good quality houses.look at today focal aim price, another new high. look at mui/pmcorp still struggling to move. since there is corporate announcement for HUPSENG, this stock is worth looking at. thank you.

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I do hope the management of PMC sees this sentence ' pmcorp as I see it can never be HUP SENG/APOLLO not even in the next century. take a look at the management most of them getting in age and not ambitious ' and take this remark as a BIG CHALLENGE and prove to PMC shareholders that they can DO it like HUP SENG/APOLLO did ?

I think the supporting line is 26 cts ! Quite unlikely goes below 26 cts ! I need to buy some more to average those shares I bought high ! My 2 cents !

Paid up capital too hugh ! Unless got v high BUY volume, otherwise hard to move upwards !

Yes I agree ! The growth potential of this PMC is bright ! Accumulate more on weakness !