Mikecyc and Mabel dare to take the challenge?
If 9 May 5pm, Serba close green, Mikecyc apologize and admit wrong and say: I am a fool, I miss a golden opportunity to earn big money!
If 9 May 5pm, Serba close red, Mabel apologize and admit wrong and say: I am a fool, I lose money kena conned by this counter.

Don't mention about history, or future prospect or what. Just 9 May 5pm.
Who not dare to take the challenge then memang tak boleh percaya, hehehe.

Sabri said no problem, now technology very advance, can translate easily. XD

You guys are exactly like Malaysia parliament la. A bunch of rich old man argue on some small matter. Small matter nia, argue until cursing family.
What will you get if you win the argument?

if cuci pingan punya chinese aunty want to migrate to taiwan, work hard save money buy plane ticket, will taiwan goverment willing to accept her as taiwan citizen?

Fundamental Trader

Assignment

Compare: VIS vs INARI vs PCHEM

1 day ago
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VIS
debt equity ratio = 0.24 (<0.5)
current ratio = 4.15 (>1.5)
ROE = 17% (>10%)
QoQ growth got
Yoy growth got
continuous profit last 4 quarter got
Price to FCF = 6.7 (<20)

Just realize I miscalculate one thing! I almost forgot qqq3333 is a master of strategy!
Actually qqq3333 supporting China is just want to deceive China, and gain China trust.
Deep down is secretly support Biden one.
Finally found the answer, that's why... oh...

Really brave, visionary and with a good strategy mind. Give you a like.

Cheh... qqq3333 is just a fake China supporter. See people strong then support them.
Ask him become soldier he talk east talk west.
All true China supporter confirm willing to become soldier fight in war, do their duty without question.

I never never never say China will fail.
I just asking if president Xi invite you to join him to become his soldier, will you accept?
But seems like you avoid to answer the question.
President Xi understand already. He is very sad now.

This fan chiong say support me, ask him become my soldier, he banyak pattern: show me youtube video, ask me back question, talk with me strategy, pusing me.

@qqq3333
If one day president xi need a strategic mind by his side and recruit you to be his soldier, and he said if you reject the offer or refuse to answer the question, he thinks you support U.S.

Will you accept his offer?

"exceptions to the rule....exceptions to the rule is when it is exceptional times."

This proverb too deep, I can't understand. Do you mind to elaborate?
Or use chinese word to write it out also can.

"Soldiers have to die, it is the duty of soldiers to die in war."
Before this, I thought soldier main duty is to win the war.
Now only I know the duty of soldiers is to die in war.
Really too young liao...

"Professional got no time to think of amateurs problems."
We really need to appreciate for what qqq3333 did here. He is professional, but he still spend time thinking our amateurs problem. Thank you qqq3333 for sharing your knowledge of a strategic mind!

Everyday have new insightful proverb to learn.

oh, like that ar?
The fund manager really clever and with strategic mind.
How the fund manager know Serba got problem before the case went public?
By checking their account info like debt ratio?
Or they think that Serba's tactic/strategy tak boleh pakai?

I believe 59 rubber stamps is a good tactic and also a good strategy.
Good tactics can get u some where but a good strategic mind goes further.

Yes, I agree with you.
This math teacher teach his student 1+1=2, huh? die already still know why u die.
He didn't realize our life is not that simple. Thinking answering 1+1=2, get a correct answer, win prize, become rich and famous, gets girl.
So naive, haha.

Walao @qqq3333, you really what also will say something huh...

One day, a math teacher teach a student 1+1=2.
qqq3333: You are wrong, 1+1 not necessary to be 2, it can be more than 2, it can be less than 2, it depends on situation, it depends on the strategy how you count it. If you seriously believe 1+1=2, I can confirm you will do very badly in future.

@qqq3333, by the way, do you agree with me that the sun rises from east and set in the west? Or you have other point of view?

Okok, you win.
Value investing is bad, everyday trade in and out is the only way to go.
US is the villain.
China is the best.
The world belongs to the visionaries and the brave.

My bad, letting this thread to become a China-US discussion. Let's back to the topic.

To be honest, I didn't hold any of the 8 stock listed at the moment. Just tak boleh tahan with qqq3333's way of talking. But somehow convinced by Fundamental's method, compared to those likes to talk about strategy, still observing.

Strategy, you can have good and confidence speakperson, talk about good strategy, vision etc...

One business constantly earning money, good FCF, didn't owe bank money, reward his shareholder from time to time with dividend.
Another business, business so so, bad FCF, owe bank some money, but talks about good plan, good strategy. (Eg: from oil and gas business, then diverse to Information Technology, then further diverse to space business, but account already super red flag)
There is no right or wrong which one you choose in my opinion.
Let's agree to disagree then.

And yes, agreed that we should be cautious.
And yes, if u have your ways, by all means, go ahead, win/loose is your money.

When you pointing finger against other people, did you ever think about yourself?
Now you're telling people I am "just a shallow victim of all and any mainstream media."
Don't you think you're a victim of those your so-called non-mainstream media too?

Algorithm know you likes China, it will always push pro-China article/video to you so in the end, you got brainwash by the algorithm itself. The same thing happen to those pro-US people too.
So in the end, people become more divided. Pro-US people think they are always right, China is wrong. Pro-China people think they are right, US is wrong. No end to this.

You guys click qqq3333 and view his blog then you know.
Always talk to himself syok sendiri. Feels very proud of himself. Feels very proud of his own great speech/statement.
I am right, you are wrong, I always made the right decision, you made a grave mistake, my method is always right, your is wrong, this is bad, that is bad, complain, complain, complain, never give a constructive solution.

Write one blog, comment himself 20 times.

I still wonder whats QMV.
Thanks for clarifying, 3iii !

Empty talk again...
I believe qqq3333 is a stubborn chinese uncle that super support China, complains about almost everything, always thinking he is right all the time, never agree or even listen to other people's opinion.

I seriously hope that you only do this in the internet and don't do it in your reality world.
Else your friend/family will leave you one by one eventually.

If you think you're already in disadvantage situation, I allow your initial investment to be 107k, then we compare amount but not %.

What you said is just empty talk if you didn't take up the challenge and put up your portfolio.
I also can say I have high confidence your current portfolio is super negative -80%.
I can say fundamental use this method 2 years already, return 200% already.
Because this kind of statement hold no credibility.

This is a healthy competition, if in the end, this method share by fundamental is not working, then we should review it and learn from our mistake.
Why not dare take up this challenge? Your bank account won't reduce any amount pun...

I had setup a portfolio in i3invest according to the 8 stock (different segment) that found by Fundamental's method.
This thread is dated 12 March(Saturday). Assuming that I have 100k and I read this thread and found the 8 stock, and bought them on 14 March (Monday) with 12.5k for each stock (I am using 14 March, 5pm price), currently standing at +7% gain. (But most probably is due to recent little bull from almost every stock, we need to see from long term)

I think this is a good strategy. I had bookmark this thread and will help update them from time to time the P/L. Maybe monthly or quarterly. You guys can refer to my portfolio in i3invest.

@Fundamental,
Do you mind to share with us when quarter result is out and you found there is a change in the fundamental from those stock? So we can do adjustment.

@qqq3333,
No use to argue here.
Do you dare to have a friendly competition/challenge with Fundamental's port folio?
By using your experience, strategy vision etc, assuming you have 100k now.
Once you made up your mind how you allocate your 100k NOW (No boom after horse), let us know.

No matter who win or who lost, I believe all of us will definitely learn something from it.

"a company rank first by the guy will soon collapse because its price is too high, or because its fundamentals will soon collapse because its a set of manipulated accounts."

Yes, you got a point.
Some of the company found by Fundamental method is at it's all time highest point.

So, you're speculating?
1. Which company you mean? with manipulated accounts?
2. When it will collapse? (Give me a time)
3. What if it doesn't happened in the timeframe you given? Will you apologize?

Which part you think is fishy? We should discuss about it together, learn from each other.

Because from what I see/understand, most of the cash is generated from the operation which is legit.
I think most of them are not from bank borrowing, PP, etc.
They can fake Revenue and Profit, but they can't fake cash generated from operation right?
(Please correct me if I'm wrong, quite new in invest to be honest)

@qqq3333

Yes, I totally agree with you that we need to understand what is behind those figures. But first, we need to understand the basic what is those figures. Too bad a lot of new investor doesn't even read them.

What you mentioned here (its strategy, its strengths and weaknesses. its reliability, its resilience, its bankruptcy risks), all of them are vague and difficult to justify. One people can say it is reliable, have good strategy, good future because XXX. Another people can say it is unreliable because YYY. Impossible to have a conclusion in the end...

I am just a little fish in the sea (Not sure bout you guys). I am just a kuli, I don't have big cable, I don't know the company's management is good or bad, I don't have the luxury to have a people walk with me in their plantation, or production line, introducing their process capabilities, product etc. I don't have other visibility besides these accounting info. In my opinion, ranking these accounting info is still much much better than listen to sifu prediction, foretell, speculate etc.

And yes, please do not follow a person blindly. Because in the end, no one will responsible for your earn/aloss except your self.

After following the discussion, I believe the list as below:
Insurance - TAKAFUL
Plantation - MHC
Food & Beverages - HARISON (is HARISON considered F&B?)
Transportation & Logistics Services - HARBOUR
Oil & Gas Producers - HIBISCS
Industrial Materials, Components & Equipment - ESCERAM
Telecommunications Service Providers - REDTONE
Chemicals - PCHEM

Thank you Fundamental Trader! Really appreciate what you did here.

By the way, where is SteadyPunpipi? Long time no see.
One of the best defender of Serba during Serba's Glorious time.

I remember last time, even Ronaldo + Messi also cannot score when Serba put SteadyPunpipi, Mabel, Uncle Lim as Centre Back.

leno, why you talk to robot? lol
amirf, muhfiq, threathijau, hijau belalang are 4 robots which comes together to SD forum everyday to cheer SD up and then disappear together.


Posted by leno > Aug 5, 2021 3:13 PM | Report Abuse
to amirf :
Buy insas-WC 31 sen
TP RM 3 Ringgit.

@all SD haters,

Please stop commenting in this forum.
The more you attack SD, the more happy they are.
A supporter won't listen to a single word from the hater.
Vice versa, a hater will not believe to a single word supporter said.

Just pray for the new investor. If they really getting con because of some irresponsible people in this forum, eventually at least they will learnt something in the end.

You see.
The problem is that no one need to responsible to what they had said previously.
Comment also no need to delete. No one will cares.

If someone keep on chasing you on the things you had said wrongly, what you need to do is just ignore them or say other thing.

Wow, keep asking people buy since 80c, 60c until now. There is only 2 possibility that you still sitting on paper profit:

1. You are FIFO trader rely on volume, buy low sell high, buy low sell high and repeat. Then I trust you still in paper profit.
2. You con people, keep asking them to buy when 60c, 80c but you no buy or you sell your ticket to them that time. Until it drop to 30c+ then only you buy again.
3. You are bluffing.

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Posted by Steady Punpipi > Aug 5, 2021 8:16 AM | Report Abuse

Relax Mickey Con Mouse ...still sitting on paper profits ....worst is behind SDK for sure....expect outstanding QR by end August ..cheers

You need to post whenever it is new page, else Uncle will just act bodoh and wait next page then it's a brand new day.

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Posted by pearlwhite > Aug 5, 2021 9:18 AM | Report Abuse

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Be kind and tell us the effectiveness of your information.

TQ

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Jul 27, 2021 9:45 AM
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05/08/2021 9:12 AM

Wow, keep asking people buy since 80c, 60c until now. There is only 2 possibility that you still sitting on paper profit:

1. You are FIFO trader rely on volume, buy low sell high, buy low sell high and repeat. Then I trust you still in paper profit.
2. You con people, keep asking them to buy when 60c, 80c but you no buy or you sell your ticket to them that time. Until it drop to 30c+ then only you buy again.
3. You are bluffing.

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Posted by Steady Punpipi > Aug 5, 2021 8:16 AM | Report Abuse

Relax Mickey Con Mouse ...still sitting on paper profits ....worst is behind SDK for sure....expect outstanding QR by end August ..cheers

oh, there you are.
I almost want report polis already.
Thinking treatshijau is missing.

where is treat hijau and amirf1221? impossible just 2 hijau belalang and muhfiq only.

Luckily, I didn't listen to uncle or punpipi when they keep asking people to buy at 0.46, 0.44. Else I still in negative now.
Finally bought at 0.385 and now waiting a good price to exit. Hohoho!

(It's fun to con like this, not cost any money but can make people envy and dulan, hahaha)

Owh, gai liao...
SD turn green liao, Steady Conpipi come out liao...
Time for we hater back to cave hide for awhile.

When people said they are laughing to the bank, it means they earned a lot from this counter.
This is not related to bank counter, calm down.

a lot of people will say laughing to the bank liao... hoho...

amirf1221, treathijau, muhfiq, hijau belalang is bot?
Everyday come together in group, and saying the same encouraging word to SB every time.

Hey, last week iHunter say something bad about SB until Uncle also diao him one. This week switch side say something good about SB already?

SD forum very entertaining la. Like our country's politics.

Mike, huangbk, psai3 are like going into the worship place of certain religion group, and tell them their god is fake.

Sure kena hantam teruk teruk.

Please don't trust this Selfish Punpipi!

Tell people this is not get rich quick counter, yesterday FIFO take profit 0.46 and 0.465, bought back 0.445 and 0.450.

Ask people to buy and hold, no margin or contra, but sendiri make own profit when price is up!

We are just bilis for him to get a lot of free shares!!
Pui! Pui!

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Posted by Steady Punpipi > Jul 15, 2021 4:40 PM | Report Abuse
took some profit at 0.460 and 0.465....bought back 0.445 and 0.450

Posted by Steady Punpipi > Jul 15, 2021 5:05 PM | Report Abuse
Now accumulating more shares rather than cash out ...dun really need the fund so reinvest back building support at the bottom ...today manage to get free shares .. lots of it !!!

Posted by Steady Punpipi > Jul 15, 2021 5:23 PM | Report Abuse
My profit taking will not the affect the share closing price ....i m only a small player ..no effects even one bid hahaha...

Posted by Steady Punpipi > Jul 16, 2021 8:56 AM | Report Abuse
Relax and chill...this is not a get rich quick counter ...heavily monitored by sharks ...it will rise when the time is right . TP rm1.60 in 2 yeras ....buy and hold. Pls no margin or contra

Steady Punpipi not steady la!! UNTRUSTABLE!
Ask people to support but sendiri curi curi make own profit!

Agreed with madmatts!! We should support each other cari duit!!
Selfish Punpipi!! Kena tipu by you!
If you no sell, today close 0.465 already!!

Now I understand why you selfish guys always promote SD counter, prey on new investor less read books!!
1. Buy SD share
2. Promote SD share, SD share slightly climb up
3. Sell SD share, profit taking for your ownself, SD price drop
4. Repeat step 1 again.

Everyone!! Lets do step 1 to 4 everyday, that's infinite money!!

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Posted by Steady Punpipi > Jul 15, 2021 4:40 PM | Report Abuse
took some profit at 0.460 and 0.465....bought back 0.445 and 0.450

Posted by Steady Punpipi > Jul 15, 2021 5:05 PM | Report Abuse
Now accumulating more shares rather than cash out ...dun really need the fund so reinvest back building support at the bottom ...today manage to get free shares .. lots of it !!!

Posted by Steady Punpipi > Jul 15, 2021 5:23 PM | Report Abuse
My profit taking will not the affect the share closing price ....i m only a small player ..no effects even one bid hahaha...

Steady Punpipi not steady la!! UNTRUSTABLE!
Ask people to support but sendiri curi curi make own profit!
Agreed with madmatts!! We should support each other cari duit!!
Selfish Punpipi!! Kena tipu by you!
If you no sell, today close 0.465 already!!

Lets take profit or cut loss tomorrow morning.
Then reinvest back building support at the bottom. Free shares, lots of it!!

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Posted by Steady Punpipi > Jul 15, 2021 4:40 PM | Report Abuse
took some profit at 0.460 and 0.465....bought back 0.445 and 0.450

Posted by Steady Punpipi > Jul 15, 2021 5:05 PM | Report Abuse
Now accumulating more shares rather than cash out ...dun really need the fund so reinvest back building support at the bottom ...today manage to get free shares .. lots of it !!!

Hey, Steady Punpipi not steady la, ask people support and buy... sendiri curi curi sell... BOOOO....

Posted by Steady Punpipi > Jul 15, 2021 4:40 PM | Report Abuse
took some profit at 0.460 and 0.465....bought back 0.445 and 0.450

ahh... costly mistakes done in the past...

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Posted by Steady Punpipi > Jun 1, 2021 7:47 PM | Report Abuse
Sapurna , Knm , Velesto, Alan.....new joiner Serba D..dun sell lower than the rest ya

Posted by Steady Punpipi > Jun 1, 2021 9:35 PM | Report Abuse
Careful no quick gain instead quick lost ....trade with care

Posted by Steady Punpipi > Jun 3, 2021 6:25 AM | Report Abuse
No get rich quick Ponzi scheme ...it could backfires and the results would be fatal

Posted by Steady Punpipi > Jun 3, 2021 6:26 AM | Report Abuse
Only those greedies will fall into the tiger mouth

Posted by Steady Punpipi Jun 4, 2021 8:37 PM | Report Abuse
Internal wise has sold ...only left those dumbfounds awaiting a rebound which never come

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Posted by Steady Punpipi > Jul 15, 2021 12:01 PM | Report Abuse
Sour grapes only dig the past and sleep with their costly mistakes , winners always look forward to the present and the future! Ganbatte SDK SH !

What happened within this one month plus?

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Posted by Steady Punpipi > Jun 1, 2021 7:47 PM | Report Abuse
Sapurna , Knm , Velesto, Alan.....new joiner Serba D..dun sell lower than the rest ya

Posted by Steady Punpipi > Jun 1, 2021 9:35 PM | Report Abuse
Careful no quick gain instead quick lost ....trade with care

Posted by Steady Punpipi > Jun 3, 2021 6:25 AM | Report Abuse
No get rich quick Ponzi scheme ...it could backfires and the results would be fatal

Posted by Steady Punpipi > Jun 3, 2021 6:26 AM | Report Abuse
Only those greedies will fall into the tiger mouth

Posted by Steady Punpipi Jun 4, 2021 8:37 PM | Report Abuse
Internal wise has sold ...only left those dumbfounds awaiting a rebound which never come

Posted by derrickinvestor > Jul 7, 2021 3:49 PM | Report Abuse

kepala pengarah sb kecut macan kepala kuran kura kena tiak dgn jari... hehehhege

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