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Posted by Lim Yan Kai > 2017-04-11 22:00 | Report Abuse

I know this theory

3iii

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Posted by 3iii > 2017-04-11 22:17 | Report Abuse

Calvin, can you spin a better story than this? ;-)

valueguru

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Posted by valueguru > 2017-04-11 22:33 | Report Abuse

Calvin, you are giving people the wrong impression that MUI was sold all the way down from RM24 to 19sen. Come on, the shares outstanding is 2.933 BILLION today, not million. Are you trying to tell people that in 1984, the company was worth RM70.39bil. You should know that over the decades, there were more shares issued to raise money and therefore shares dilution. By the way I have always enjoyed reading your articles and I do agree that the company is undervalued. However, my take is that if a person cannot share his wealth with his love ones, I don't think he can be generous with the general public.

Posted by KingOfLeons > 2017-04-12 00:08 | Report Abuse

Calvin, a good lesson well learnt indeed.

calvintaneng

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Posted by calvintaneng > 2017-04-12 08:25 | Report Abuse

Mystery of MUI Solved!

MUI =

Multiple Streams of Businesses - Hotel, Retail, F&B, Travel & Tours & Stock Brokeriing

Universal expansion - UK Hotels, Europe Luara Ashley, Land Australia, Malaysia & USA, Spore

Infinite deep Value Assets


So MUI is

1) Multi
2) Universal
3) Infinite

Do you get it?

Posted by Jonathan Keung > 2017-04-12 12:17 | Report Abuse

Tan Sri Khoo rather go to jail then give a penny to pauline chai. he will find ways to delay ANd prolong the settlement citing his assets is less than what the British court awarded. Give hi,m 2-3 years. he says bye ' amen " personal and corporate ownership is different.

KLCI King

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Posted by KLCI King > 2017-04-12 12:28 | Report Abuse

I wonder why Calvin is so enthusiastic in participating here at i3, though most of time I find myself not agreeable with him.

This is the character that deserve my respect

Posted by shinichi1412 > 2017-04-12 12:58 | Report Abuse

Greater fool by Calvin to sell his stock. Kena Con! Lol

914601117

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Posted by 914601117 > 2017-04-12 13:17 | Report Abuse

Buying long depressed stocks are just like buying a shoplot and could wait for 5, 10 or even 20 years to appreciate. I would suggest only put 20% of your investable capital in MUI etc.

calvintaneng

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Posted by calvintaneng > 2017-04-12 13:35 | Report Abuse

Listen here!

This is the way to invest in High Asset Neglected Stocks.

Just follow Walter Schloss' method:

Buy a basket of 30 to 100 stocks which have

1. Low price backed by High Value Assets like

a) Lots of Cash
b) Gold bars.
c) Valuable Lands, factories, warehouses, resorts, houses, islands
d) Goods of value like hard metals, oil palm trees and others.


2. Make sure major shareholders are buying and not disposing. Selling a little for needs ok. Best is Insiders keep up buying.


And hold tight.

One day the tree will bear fruit and you shall reap.

This method is proven by Superinvestor called Walter Schloss for 40 long years.

It never fail.

Hip hip hooray.

i4investor

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Posted by i4investor > 2017-04-12 13:53 | Report Abuse

haha...good

Junichiro

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Posted by Junichiro > 2017-04-12 15:27 | Report Abuse

Neoh's book was published before the famous 1993 bull market. All lot of young people then who opted to be a greater fool made tons of $$$$. Subsequently, those older ppl who followed lost their $$$.

Those who followed Dr Neoh's method did not managed to make $$$$ in 1993 bull.

stockmanmy

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Posted by stockmanmy > 2017-04-12 15:33 | Report Abuse

if that is the case, 2017, 2 chicken almanac later also same.



sted by Junichiro > Apr 12, 2017 03:27 PM | Report Abuse

Those who followed Dr Neoh's method did not managed to make $$$$ in 1993 bull.

stockmanmy

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Posted by stockmanmy > 2017-04-12 15:35 | Report Abuse

1993 bull not about pass wealth......
its all new wealth and stock brokers

Junichiro

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Posted by Junichiro > 2017-04-12 15:43 | Report Abuse

Every new cycle in the stockmart has its new characteristics. Those who made $$$ in the 1993 bull subsequently lost it all when they use the same 1993 cycle method.

The Edge interviewed Dr Neoh after the 1993 bull and commented that he is too conservative.

calvintaneng

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Posted by calvintaneng > 2017-04-12 16:11 | Report Abuse

Junichiro Every new cycle in the stockmart has its new characteristics. Those who made $ in the 1993 bull subsequently lost it all when they use the same 1993 cycle method.

The Edge interviewed Dr Neoh after the 1993 bull and commented that he is too conservative.
12/04/2017 15:43


Whatever cycles & whatever markets the fundamental law of VALUE will prevail.

Look at gold as a Store of Value. What Gold bought in ancient times still remain true today. Gold has an intrinsic Store of Value that cannot be destroyed by wars, inflation, deflation or good/bad times. Its Value adjusts accordingly just like water also finds its own level. So is gravity.

These are immutable Laws God create to govern the physical world.

And what is true there is also forever true about Investments

They are ALWAYS BASED ON VALUE!

And the Share Price of a Company will ULTIMATELY BE REFLECTED IN ITS TRUE INTRINSIC VALUE!!

stockmanmy

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Posted by stockmanmy > 2017-04-12 16:14 | Report Abuse

cal

People want to make money and hope to avoid losses when game is over.

People do not want no gain no loss. aka dead stocks.

Skliew

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Posted by Skliew > 2017-04-12 18:25 | Report Abuse

Are you sure those who follow Dr Neoh's method did other make money in he 1993 Super Bull? The index shot up to 1300+ from about 600...

Many of those punters lost what they made from 1993 plus their own money after 1993 subsequently using their "methods".....

It was euphoria then and people just crazy then buying empty company like Berjuntai Tina @RM38....and many many more...which collapsed subsequently.....

Hahaha!

stockmanmy

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Posted by stockmanmy > 2017-04-12 18:49 | Report Abuse

liew

don't be so scared of uncertainties.

actually it is uncertainties that create higher beta.

you hope to get the good beta and avoid the bad beta.....that is how to get high alpha.

stockmanmy

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Posted by stockmanmy > 2017-04-12 18:50 | Report Abuse

buy shares with too much certainties also no use one.

Skliew

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Posted by Skliew > 2017-04-12 19:47 | Report Abuse

Stockman, different people different approach.. some like to gamble but some stick to investment into a good business....but by and large, malaysian retailers in the stock market like to gamble...
I have seen so many failed punters....Look at Dr Neoh'S portfolios right now, you can check that he bought and kept those shares for years.... collected dividends and the share prices have multiplied many folds....

It's not easy for us to emulate....most of us prefer quick kills... haha! Either kill or be killed! Haha!

calvintaneng

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Posted by calvintaneng > 2017-04-12 20:06 |

Post removed.Why?

MG9231

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Posted by MG9231 > 2017-04-12 20:44 | Report Abuse

Calvin - aptly described and hit the nail chun-chu on the head of so called accountant. Laugh die me lah .

stockmanmy

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Posted by stockmanmy > 2017-04-12 20:47 | Report Abuse

if the stock has all the certainties, where is the risk premium?
why should there be risk premium.?

money is make from the stock market by taking on risk ...and proven right later.

that is the function of the stock market.

stockmanmy

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Posted by stockmanmy > 2017-04-12 20:49 | Report Abuse

go buy cash companies .la

buy Puncak, miss the whole bull run.


Puncak sure got clear cut intrinsic value.





MG9231 > Apr 12, 2017 08:44 PM | Report Abuse

Calvin - aptly described and hit the nail chun-chu on the head of so called accountant. Laugh die me lah .

anticonman

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Posted by anticonman > 2017-04-12 20:51 | Report Abuse

Privatised? Stop dreaming. Divorce settlement by Pauline will cost him RM 355 million poorer.

Posted by xcelcap > Apr 11, 2017 08:53 AM | Report Abuse
possibility of privatisation?..as KKP has the dough...lol

anticonman

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Posted by anticonman > 2017-04-12 20:52 | Report Abuse

Run asap. Bankrupt likely the outcome.

stockmanmy

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Posted by stockmanmy > 2017-04-12 21:57 | Report Abuse

ultimate truth about stock market

no risk no reward.

stockmanmy

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Posted by stockmanmy > 2017-04-12 22:01 | Report Abuse

ultimate truth about stock market

no risk no reward.

risk is uncertainties.

Apollo Ang

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Posted by Apollo Ang > 2017-04-12 22:02 | Report Abuse

how to make 1 mil in bursa? risk also become bangrupt. tracoma bought 1.80 sold at 10cts after 6 years, SAAG bought before rights issue at 5.30 sold at 75cts after 6 years. both PN17 after I cut loss.parkson bought at 5.20 before last election now 63cts. talking about risk?

stockmanmy

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Posted by stockmanmy > 2017-04-12 22:05 | Report Abuse

yes, talking about risk.

no risk no reward.

anticonman

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Posted by anticonman > 2017-04-12 22:09 | Report Abuse

Pls paste advertisement MUI put up assets for sale and buyer interested. Divorce settlement by Pauline(64 million pound) is confirmed news.

calvintaneng

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Posted by calvintaneng > 2017-04-12 22:38 | Report Abuse

High guys,

All must go read up THE INTELLIGENT INVESTOR By Ben Graham

Especially the very last chapter on THE SUPERINVESTORS OF DODDSVILLE & GRAHAMSVILLE by Great Sifu Warren Buffet himself

The proper way to Successful Investment is found in this investment Bible.

The way to avoid pitfalls.

Study it carefully. read the Book twice every year until its precepts & purpose sink into your heart.

If you still fail then just put your monies in Bank FD & forget about investment, ok?

John Lu

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Posted by John Lu > 2017-04-12 22:40 | Report Abuse

After read and like you rank 214 stock pick, how?? Haha haha

calvintaneng

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Posted by calvintaneng > 2017-04-12 22:44 | Report Abuse

Haha! Rank how much is determined on 31st December 2017 (more than 8 months away!) So wait till then

And from you own mouth this is what you say

See

Posted by John Lu > Mar 14, 2017 10:18 PM | Report Abuse

LOL...bro Calvin...this competition is 12 months la

stockmanmy

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Posted by stockmanmy > 2017-04-12 22:58 | Report Abuse

its inadvertent because that is who calvin is.



John Lu > Apr 12, 2017 10:40 PM | Report Abuse

After read and like you rank 214 stock pick, how?? Haha haha

stockmanmy

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Posted by stockmanmy > 2017-04-12 22:59 | Report Abuse

year in year out
calvin will rank right at the bottom.

Seek

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Posted by Seek > 2017-04-12 23:13 | Report Abuse

This Mui itself is 6cts up since Calvin wrote about d sleeping giant!
19cts to 25cts today. It's ok to b last when u can make such a call within 3days.

calvintaneng

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Posted by calvintaneng > 2017-04-12 23:21 | Report Abuse

Haha Seek,

You are correct!

No use if busy here busy there posting and arguing if pockets full of holes.

We concentrate on making monies and our pockets full of Cash. Hahaha!

stockmanmy

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Posted by stockmanmy > 2017-04-13 00:10 | Report Abuse

no risk no reward is a fundamental truth.

stockmanmy

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Posted by stockmanmy > 2017-04-13 00:13 | Report Abuse

no risk no reward is a fundamental truth.


people have tried all kinds of smart ways to break this fundamental truth.

no one has succeeded and no one will succeed.

stockraider

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Posted by stockraider > 2017-04-13 00:21 | Report Abuse

Warren Buffet always says go for low risk but high reward loh....!!

Warren Buffet says value investment with margin of safety...is never high risk and high reward mah.....!!

High risk and high reward....leave it to speculators and gamblers thats what W Buffet mean loh....!!

No need to jump over 6 ft hurdle....look for 1 ft hurdle and step over loh.....!!

stockmanmy

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Posted by stockmanmy > 2017-04-13 08:56 | Report Abuse

Warren Buffet has never once in this entire life bought any thing because he liked the past of the company...or past wealth,

All his purchases is because he sees the business sense and likes the future. ...and is willing to accept the risks as offered to him

All stock market returns beyond risk free returns are because he has to assume the market risks and stock specific risks ...and be right that the risks can be solved.

That is the function of the stock market....For someone to assume the risks and be rewarded afterwards if he is proven right.

stockmanmy

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Posted by stockmanmy > 2017-04-13 08:58 | Report Abuse

WB talks a lot...

so called value investors talks a lot....

Judge a person by what he do , not what he says

WB has been sailanging all his life.

Posted by Jonathan Keung > 2017-04-13 09:00 | Report Abuse

risk against reward. past return is no guarantee for the future. look at nokia or our home grown proton. either you change or you be changed. last time you buy and hold ( you can still hold for the next 10 years ) this is just my personal take.

stockmanmy

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Posted by stockmanmy > 2017-04-13 09:25 | Report Abuse

don't want high risk , high return?

then buy lower risk for lower return.....there is no such thing as low risk, high return.

y stockraider > Apr 13, 2017 12:21 AM | Report Abuse


High risk and high reward.

stockmanmy

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Posted by stockmanmy > 2017-04-13 09:26 | Report Abuse

when people tell you low risk high return

it is hang pig head, sell dog meat.

Posted by Muruganvanam > 2017-04-13 10:33 | Report Abuse

Calvin is a napuneh! NAPUNEH!!!

stockmanmy

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Posted by stockmanmy > 2017-04-13 10:37 | Report Abuse

calvin the self declared Warren wannabe knows nothing about his sifu.


Warren Buffet has never once in this entire life bought any thing because he liked the past of the company...or past wealth,

Posted by chuncaisakuah > 2017-04-13 10:41 | Report Abuse

I awarded him as MAN OF THE YEAR 2017 for chuncai sakuah grand price !

LOL !!!

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