Don’t compare Hengyuan with nestle. Nestle P/E ratio 47

Compare with keppel spore. P/E ratio 15

TP : rm 45

Sharks eat all ikan bilis and he ask you to use margin to die faster. Warren buffet never ask us to play contra and use margin

There’s no china fund
It’s local players overplayed contra and margin la

HY is not rubbish share for HY . My neighbor uncle contra day in day out start at 12 to 19. Rm 1 million transaction per day. He bought 40,000 shares of HY at rm 2.5.

After play contra he lost back rm 200 k

Conclusion. Don't play contra. Don't follow KYY advise to play margin. It may kill you

Invest with cash. It's a fundamental investment for longer term. If we wish to buy HY this week and sell next week. Don't buy

HY is exactly like that movie. Must watch

Hy is just like the movie above now

https://www.facebook.com/tiantiannew/videos/930251760483949/

Let’s stop arguing. Those who has no confident in hy. Just sell it.

Those who thinks it’s inder valued. Hold on to it.

Please just pump petrol at shell station to show some support brought. Thanks ya

Q4 for 2017 may attract fund house to buy. Sell higher to them lo

Nestle is superb stock but buying a share with P/E ratio at 45-50x. It’s not worth it now. I love mllo and Nescafé. But if it’s overpriced I may go for alternative drink lo

Overpriced

Do NT compare hy with nestle.
Then compare Hengyuan with keppel refinery spore. Keppel P/E ratio is 15.

Hy eps rm 3.1 should be rm 45

Believe in yourself. Not KYY not OTB. Buy in for the fundamental
If you think your TP is rm 18-20. Sell when it reaches there
Follow your risk appetite not others
P/E ratio at 4 for HY still cheap

Let's assume 2018 eps rm 2.50 still good for investment

Finally hy is stabil. Less contra players and margin players. Fr here can hit rm 18-20 by March

https://www.facebook.com/tiantiannew/videos/930251760483949/

All in hy now. Sell my public bank

Watching HY stock now reminds me of the movie called "The Revenant" by Brat Pitt
After buried and alive again after all the contra and margin players dead or gone. Only cash buyers won in the end

成也恒源，败也恒源

Buy low sell high. See you at rm 20 Soon

KYY is just profit taking and pay his margin.
At the end of the day. Market will decide the fair price of a share. Not kyy not OTB. Not you and I

When others are fearful we must be greedy

Well said stock raider

If a bank can lend me rm 1.7 b now. I will buy hy
All in now. TP: rm 20

After the panic sale. Good time to go in again

Hkc. I will buy 20,000 share to hold next. Sailang

Buy now. Sell at rm 20 by years end

Brent oil 70.6
Crude oil 65.7

Q1 2018 still can see positive results

Buy. TP rm 20

Most contra already wiped out. The existing one are real investors. Tomorrow may rebound rm 2.00. Buy

Apple has usd more than 100 Billion also borrow money in case of emergency standby use la

Yesterday contra players sold already fr my remisier
Now only cash buyer dare to go in. Safe already.

My neighbor Uncle who plays contra now don’t dare to touch hy but goes to play Hibicus.

Hy temporary safe. If this afternoon buyer come back it may go back to the glory day again

Most buyers are holding after the contra lost. Hold

5 years ago hy rm 8-9m
Now 14.80

P/E ratio below 5

Buy
TP rm 20-25

It has been raining for many days. Finally sunshine. We can breath again.

See you at rm 30

My neighbor Uncle stop playing contra on Hengyuan
He starts playing contra on Hibicus. Many Uncle playing contra on Hibicus. I will buy back at rm 1 not 1.1

Short term target rm 18
Long term rm 30

My friend sold half his bitcoin and put into hy
Now he thanks me
He said hy is like bitcoin
I told him better sell all your bitcoin since already make 300% all into hy

A brief explanation on the short correction of HengYuan
Author: SmartyAlek | Publish date: Fri, 19 Jan 2018, 12:20 PM

Not matter how good a company is, its share price cannot go up without buyers. In order for price to go up, buyers must be more than sellers and the buyers must be willing to buy at higher price.

What happen to Heng Yuan this week seems to suggest that 'certain parties' with hidden motive vomitted tens of millions worth of shares in a duration of few minutes to create panic sell down. One can ascertain this by carefully studying the hourly charts.

I believe there were also numerous sharks/ operators at play in Hengyuan during its rise from RM 10 to RM 19. Few operators, seeing that the counter is under attack by 'certain parties', might have taken flight to protect their capitals.

With the few days of sell down, I believe the operators who wanted exit had already done so and they are watching and waiting to rejoin at the right time, as the fundamental of Hengyuan is still intact. The current PE of below 4x will be extremely tempting.

Another reason which explains the high drop on 18 Jan is that there is a prominent investor who claimed to own 20millions shares. Operators were worried that he might start selling first, therefore they panic sold first. However he has already reinterated many times that he will buy more if he sees improving Qr results and will only start selling a little if there is a dropping Qr.



A little bit of investigative skills will bring you to his comment on Jan 6 6:25pm, that he owned 6 millions share at that time. So does this mean that he has bought 14millions share from Jan 6 to Jan 17, at price range of RM14-RM17? If this true, I have great respect for him as he is truly a superinvestor who has unwavering belief in the bright prospect of this company, and we will surely emerge as the true long-term winner for our great foresight.



My TP for this Heng Yuan remains RM30 by June 2018.

成也HY 敗也HY
MEdz now turn into Honda city
Contra players and margin players will be wiped off soon
Lower tide only can see who swim naked
My neighbors uncle bought HY at rm 2.50 for 40,000 share keep until today
He play contra on HY bought at rm 17 today cut lost at today rm 12.50
Contra Hibiscus bought at 1.16-1.17 for 160,000 shares due next Monday. He met another uncle also jumped into Hibicus
Now he sold extra 10,000 HY shares which was holding since last early year to pay all this contra lost

He used to lose rm 10 m during gulf war and 911.

Lesson fr there never play contra. He told me also but he still losing at age 80 and continue to play contra. He advised me not to play contra.

We are still young

Rule no 1. Never play contra
Rule no 2. Never play contra
Rule no 3. Refer to above rule if not clear

Contra only make remisers and stock broker firm and bursa rich

Maybe bursa may consider to redue the fxxking T4 to only T1 pay all to prevent our future generations from goreng and losing so much again.

Thanks for reading.

Contra players and margin players will be wiped off soon
Lower tide only can see who swim naked
My neighbors uncle bought HY at rm 2.50 for 40,000 share keep until today
He play contra on HY bought at rm 17 today cut lost at today rm 12.50
Contra Hibiscus bought at 1.16-1.17 for 160,000 shares due next Monday. He met another uncle also jumped into Hibicus
Now he sold extra 10,000 HY shares which was holding since last early year to pay all this contra lost

He used to lose rm 10 m during gulf war and 911.

Lesson fr there never play contra. He told me also but he still losing at age 80 and continue to play contra. He advised me not to play contra.

We are still young

Rule no 1. Never play contra
Rule no 2. Never play contra
Rule no 3. Refer to above rule if not clear

Contra only make remisers and stock broker firm and bursa rich

Maybe bursa should consider to reduce the fxxking T4 to only T1 pay all to prevent our future generations from goreng and losing so much again.

Thanks for reading. Those who lost a lot.pray to your God and hope can recover your lost soon.

Let contra player sell all first

KYY disappear. Either he has sold all. Or he will com back stronger. Sailang

KYY now selling others shares to pay his margin lost. He may sailang again. At his age he has nothing to lose already lol

Sold my Hibicus yesterday at rm 1.13-1.15
P/E ratio 45
Move all to hengyuan
Met an uncle he bought 160,000 Hibicus at 1.13-1.17. He told me he plays contra. Really worried me.

I will buy back below rm 1

Sell and forget, buy and forget
P/E ratio 4.4. Q4 2017 eps rm 1.41. Buy back tomorrow
On 28th February 2018 q4 results to be announced dividends payout 50 cent
All margin players and contra players totally wipe out soon
All in HY.

Happy CNY

(richDad): HENGYUAN - 3 important lessons learnt
Author: richDad1 | Publish date: Fri, 29 Dec 2017, 08:01 AM

My best investment so far – 200% return, keeping it and let the profit run)

I start writing about HENGYUAN when it was RM5.31. As of today’s closing, it has hit RM17.96. If someone bought at RM5.31 and keep it until now, that investment would have generated 238% return.

This is the proof

https://klse.i3investor.com/blogs/richDad/123573.jsp

Somewhere in Nov/early Dec, I made a mistake in between by selling it at RM11 but I realized that mistake and buy back at RM11.50… But let’s ignore that 5% opportunity loss and look at the big picture for the discussion below.

As we are ending 2017 soon, I would like to share 3 lessons learnt from my decision to choose HENGYUAN:

LESSON 1: Choose a stock with strong earnings growth

HENGYUAN fits into this as when I notice this stock, I roughly estimate that its earnings will grow in FY17 way back in May-2017

LESSON 2: Look at PE instead of absolute price

Let’s revisit my wrong decision about a month ago. As share price has almost doubled from RM5.31 to RM11, I decided to sell it. After that, I look at the money and try to find other good investment… and I couldn’t find it as its PE at that time was around 4x with earnings growth exceeding 200% and even 300%!

I have to admit that I failed to find a better stock with such a good valuation !

The last option is to buy back HENGYUAN even as it has gone up to RM11.50.

This is the hardest thing to do as admitting mistake is not human nature, most people who already sold HENGYUAN will stay away from it forever… But these people will regret tremendously now as they stare at the screen and watch HENGYUAN goes UP and UP…

LESSON 3: Ignore the negative noises, focus on fundamental

When I start blogging, I noticed there are some consistently negative people who keep on posting negative comments. After a few rounds, I start to get used to this.

The last lesson is to learn to ignore these noises and stay invested.

My thinking is… I have spent many hours to find this HENGYUAN gem, these noises from the Internet won’t affect my decision to stay invested.

In theory, this is called “Let The Profit Run”.

Should I sell at RM13 with 20% profit? NO

Should I sell at RM15 with 40% profit? NO

Should I sell at RM17 with 60% profit? NO

Even at RM20 will I sell with 90% profit?

NO because by then its PE is still low at about 6x at RM20…

Let's enjoy the ride uptrend again tomorrow from bottom of RM 13.40 to Rm 19.2 again.

All negative voice will be gone soon. Just continue your support to pump petrol at shell ya.

Thanks for readin

HY is not nestle which nestle could reach P/E ratio at 43

Hy P/E ratio should be 8-10

Look at spore keppel oil refinery P/E ratio 15

Therefore TP: Rm 24 for hy

With piling up of cash rm 1.2 b in hand. Hy is almost a debt free company. Dividends is a matter of time. Share buy back and bonus share or share split could boost up hy share price as shareholders are waiting for

Sold my Hibicus P/E ratio near 50

Bought more hy P/E ratio 5

Be greedy when others are fearful

I will switch hy half to Hibicus when the corrections are done

All in hy

I met one Uncle today he play contra on Hibicus. 140,000 share. In and out. I decided to sell Hibicus.

May buy back on its weakness

All in hy now

Today I sold all my Hibicus that boight at 72.5 cents and 92 cents.
All in hy

See you at rm 18 Soon