Posted by Integrity. Intelligent. Industrious. 3iii (iiinvestsmart)$€£¥ > 0 seconds ago | Report Abuse

Spamming?

Be real.

I have used this site to bounce ideas. It is also a great site to observe human psychology and behaviour in their investing.

If the posts in Netx were not so abusely deleted by you and your friends, you would have realised the naysayers were right and you were idi-otic in your careless incessant promotion of Next. Did you express remorse or regret to those whom you harassed in Netx during that period? Did you admit your mistakes? Did you feel bad for those you caused to lose money in Netx?

What were the naysayers' activities in Netx? It was altruistic. Since you promoted so aggressively (for various reasons best known to your Christian faith); a few of us who were "less knowledgeable had a deep look into Netx. What were posted by the naysayers played out exactly as they posted.

Netx was a clear case of how irresponsible you were and can be. Is greed or love the bigger component of your behaviour?

3iii


Great mind talks about issues eg Netx
Weak mind talks about people eg spam?ming


Better in love to have these in this order:
People first, then money

Spamming?

Be real.

I have used this site to bounce ideas. It is also a great site to observe human psychology and behaviour in their investing.

If the posts in Netx were not so abusely deleted by you and your friends, you would have realised the naysayers were right and you were idi-otic in your careless incessant promotion of Next. Did you express remorse or regret to those whom you harassed in Netx during that period? Did you admit your mistakes? Did you feel bad for those you caused to lose money in Netx?

What were the naysayers' activities in Netx? It was altruistic. Since you promoted so aggressively (for various reasons best known to your Christian faith); a few of us who were "less knowledgeable had a deep look into Netx. What were posted by the naysayers played out exactly as they posted.

Netx was a clear case of how irresponsible you were and can be. Is greed or love the bigger component of your behaviour?

3iii


Great mind talks about issues eg Netx
Weak mind talks about people eg spam?ming


Better in love to have these in this order:
People first, then money

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My investing is very focussed. I screen for many stocks. I only analyse a few in depth for serious investing. Sometimes, on a few for learning purposes.

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Posted by calvintaneng > 12 minutes ago | Report Abuse

Telling the truth?

Pm Corp only worth 14.4 sen?
When it has net cash 18.5 sen?
And Net Assets over 30 sen
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Why is PMCorp sellling at a discount to its NTA?
Why is the market players not give it the premium to its NTA as calvintaneng opined?
Is the market wrong or is calvintaneg right?
What will be the catalyst for the repricing of PMCorp?

Why is calvintaneng so sure of his value of PMCorp?

PMCORP

Shareholding Changes
Date of change Shares Director/
Substantial Shareholder
27 Feb 2023 Disposed
33,500,000 SOO LAY HOLDINGS SDN BHD
27 Feb 2023 Disposed
33,500,000 MALAYAN UNITED INDUSTRIES BERHAD
27 Feb 2023 Acquired
20,000,000 CIMB COMMERCE TRUSTEE BERHAD
27 Feb 2023 Disposed
33,500,000 NORCROSS LIMITED
27 Feb 2023 Disposed
33,500,000 TAN SRI DATO' KHOO KAY PENG
27 Feb 2023 Disposed
33,500,000 CHERUBIM INVESTMENT (HK) LIMITED
27 Feb 2023 Disposed
33,500,000 KKP HOLDINGS SDN BHD
05 Oct 2022 Disposed
43,000,000 MALAYAN UNITED INDUSTRIES BERHAD
05 Oct 2022 Disposed
43,000,000 ORIENTAL OMEGA SDN BHD
05 Oct 2022 Disposed
43,000,000 NORCROSS LIMITED

As you highlighted the buying of TSH by its CEO, perhaps, you may like to know the selling in PMCORP as above. Now don't get annoyed because this is posted.

Investing blogs and sites became popular with the onset of social media. These blogs and sites have evolved over the years. There were many popular blogs in past, many have disappeared. Sahamas was a popular blog maintained by a very respectable person. He has not blog since, probably his advance age may be a factor.

A popular site where many Malaysian investors gathered to talk "cock" around stocks was Fusion Investor. A popular character in that blog was a chap named Seng. The author of Sahamas was also a popular participant.

When Investlah appeared, the participants shifted to Investlah. Many in Fusion Investor shifted to Investlah. Soon, Seng who maintained Fusion Investor decided to stop blogging asking his participants to join the other blogs.

I started my own blog on 1.8.2008. My first post was: `https://myinvestingnotes.blogspot.com/2008/08/investment-policies-based-on-benjamin.html . My bto log is still active today. It is mainly a personal journey in seeking investment knowledge and my own personal investing philosophy. Also, a place for me to refresh my thinking on my own investing.

I actually did not know that Investlah existed, until a chap, LENO invited me to that site. Well, I soon get to know the investment style of LENO, stockraider, Johnmaster, and a few others. There were many manipulators too, sometimes their activities were obvious, at times very subtle. It is often difficult to know the difference. In any case, investing should be just that, don't speculate. The 2 threads I participated with some enthusiasm were GSB and Patimas. Those who were in Investlah at that time, will know the history.

When i3 started, once again, I did not even know it existed. I continued to stay with Investlah. Slowly, more and more left Investlah. Some participated in both sites. It was not surprising to me that soon after joining i3, calvintaneng promoted PMCorp. He had been doing so in Investlah with Leno for sometime already. Now in the new site, perhaps, there were new players for them to promote with "success" as in Investlah, too many had been burnt too by many promotions, genuine or otherwise.

I joined i3 very very much later. The demise of Investlah was not unexpected. i3 offers a lot more benefits. The site is a better site, compared to Investlah. It was only a matter of time that the new site attracted many players to its site, impoverishing Investlah. It has little to do with any individual.

Interestingly, i3 site is most popular in Malaysia. When you hop over to the i3 Singapore, you will realise few responded to calvintaneng's similar promotions. No wonder, calvintaneng prefers Malaysia i3 to Singapore. :-)

Just telling the truth.

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Stock: [TSH]: TSH RESOURCES BHD

10 hours ago | Report Abuse

This 3iii has caused the bankruptcy of investlah members by pointing people away from Pm Corp when it was below 20 sen and as a result they gone punting in stocks like Patimas and Sumatech

finally www.investlah.com also closed shop

i3 Admin Team better be very careful now
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If only what calvintaneng opined is true. Far from the truth.
Calvintaneng is not trustworthy at all. At least stay with the facts and truth.

It has maintained its “outperform” on Aeon Credit with a higher target price of RM16.95 from RM16.15 previously.


Kenanga

Good latest qtr EPS. Undemanding PE.

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Posted by Integrity. Intelligent. Industrious. 3iii (iiinvestsmart)$€£¥ > Sep 21, 2023 9:52 PM | Report Abuse X

calvintaneng of Netx fame promoted PMCorp at 15 sen on 20/9/2012 as he posted. Yet, I believe the majority of those who invested into this counter AFTER his recommendation or promotion, probably LOST money. Do you agree, Calvintan?
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https://klse1.i3investor.com/servlets/forum/608694619.jsp
Blog: 10 ANNIVERSARY IN i3 INVESTOR FORUM (LOOKING AT PM CORP PERFORMACE) Calvin Tan

Posted by Integrity. Intelligent. Industrious. 3iii (iiinvestsmart)$€£¥ > Sep 27, 2023 6:29 AM | Report Abuse X

Blog: 10 ANNIVERSARY IN i3 INVESTOR FORUM (LOOKING AT PM CORP PERFORMACE) Calvin Tan

When Calvintaneng created this thread, it was an interesting heading. He obviously was highlighting his 10 years involvement in i3 and in particular highlight PM Corp performance.

My study of investor behaviour and psychology means another wealth of information on this topic can be gained from studying his posts in the early years of his involvement in i3, particularly in PM Corp promotion.

Not surprisingly, it was a treasure house to study behavioural finance.

I was interested to understand what happened to PM Corp before calvintaneng's promotion, during his promotion and after his promotion of PMCorp. Also, how the readers reacted. How sophisticated were those who followed calvintaneng? How did they make their investing decisions? How good was calvintaneng's PREDICTION or PROMOTION of this stock? Given his unopposed promotion, how effective was his style? How easily or how difficult it was to promote a stock? How many contrarian views? (Actually, I discovered during the early period, very few actually. But the few who expressed were very good, in particular, Fabien. I subsequently studied Fabien's approach in investing from his/her posts in this site.)

For the early posts of PMCorp now being ?deleted or ?not accessible, just points to only one thing. calvintaneng was not proud for his early promotion of PMCorp to be revealed and dissected objectively and factually.

There he goes again, just promoting and as Mr. See mentioned, boasting.

3iii


To our administrator in i3

My thanks to you on your thankless role.

However, our administrator in i3 should be more careful in looking at issues from many aspects before complying to requests of one group or another. I have never flagged any one in this i3 forum. If they are proud of their postings, they should let these remain forever. If they are not proud of their postings, why posted in the first place?

osted by Integrity. Intelligent. Industrious. 3iii (iiinvestsmart)$€£¥ > Sep 27, 2023 6:29 AM | Report Abuse X

Blog: 10 ANNIVERSARY IN i3 INVESTOR FORUM (LOOKING AT PM CORP PERFORMACE) Calvin Tan
https://klse1.i3investor.com/servlets/forum/608694619.jsp


When Calvintaneng created this thread, it was an interesting heading. He obviously was highlighting his 10 years involvement in i3 and in particular highlight PM Corp performance.

My study of investor behaviour and psychology means another wealth of information on this topic can be gained from studying his posts in the early years of his involvement in i3, particularly in PM Corp promotion.

Not surprisingly, it was a treasure house to study behavioural finance.

I was interested to understand what happened to PM Corp before calvintaneng's promotion, during his promotion and after his promotion of PMCorp. Also, how the readers reacted. How sophisticated were those who followed calvintaneng? How did they make their investing decisions? How good was calvintaneng's PREDICTION or PROMOTION of this stock? Given his unopposed promotion, how effective was his style? How easily or how difficult it was to promote a stock? How many contrarian views? (Actually, I discovered during the early period, very few actually. But the few who expressed were very good, in particular, Fabien. I subsequently studied Fabien's approach in investing from his/her posts in this site.)

For the early posts of PMCorp now being ?deleted or ?not accessible, just points to only one thing. calvintaneng was not proud for his early promotion of PMCorp to be revealed and dissected objectively and factually.

There he goes again, just promoting and as Mr. See mentioned, boasting.

3iii


To our administrator in i3

My thanks to you on your thankless role.

However, our administrator in i3 should be more careful in looking at issues from many aspects before complying to requests of one group or another. I have never flagged any one in this i3 forum. If they are proud of their postings, they should let these remain forever. If they are not proud of their postings, why posted in the first place?

Blog: 10 ANNIVERSARY IN i3 INVESTOR FORUM (LOOKING AT PM CORP PERFORMACE) Calvin Tan

When Calvintaneng created this thread, it was an interesting heading. He obviously was highlighting his 10 years involvement in i3 and in particular highlight PM Corp performance.

My study of investor behaviour and psychology means another wealth of information on this topic can be gained from studying his posts in the early years of his involvement in i3, particularly in PM Corp promotion.

Not surprisingly, it was a treasure house to study behavioural finance.

I was interested to understand what happened to PM Corp before calvintaneng's promotion, during his promotion and after his promotion of PMCorp. Also, how the readers reacted. How sophisticated were those who followed calvintaneng? How did they make their investing decisions? How good was calvintaneng's PREDICTION or PROMOTION of this stock? Given his unopposed promotion, how effective was his style? How easily or how difficult it was to promote a stock? How many contrarian views? (Actually, I discovered during the early period, very few actually. But the few who expressed were very good, in particular, Fabien. I subsequently studied Fabien's approach in investing from his/her posts in this site.)

For the early posts of PMCorp now being ?deleted or ?not accessible, just points to only one thing. calvintaneng was not proud for his early promotion of PMCorp to be revealed and dissected objectively and factually.

There he goes again, just promoting and as Mr. See mentioned, boasting.

3iii


To our administrator in i3

My thanks to you on your thankless role.

However, our administrator in i3 should be more careful in looking at issues from many aspects before complying to requests of one group or another. I have never flagged any one in this i3 forum. If they are proud of their postings, they should let these remain forever. If they are not proud of their postings, why posted in the first place?

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Posted by SEE_Research > 1 hour ago | Report Abuse

Calvintaneng ; he is BOASTFUL
AND KEEP ON WITH HIS BOASTS
Quote from calvin
*** I MADE A NICE 1,000 % GAIN or
100 % COMPOUNDED GAIN PER YEAR FOR THE PAST 10 YEARS
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;-)

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calvintaneng calvintaneng

THE 7 PHASES OF A SUCCESSFUL PALM OIL COMPANY, Calvin Tan

https://klse.i3investor.com/web/blog/detail/www.eaglevisioninvest.com/...

Most probaly Bplant now at Stage Seven (no longer cheap)

Jaya Tiasa at Stage Four Going Into Stage Five offers better value

TSH going out from Stage Three to Stage Four offers the Best Value
26/09/2023 9:51 PM
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Going into?
Going out from?
Already out?

Compare this to the CEO buying 500,000 shares daily in the past.
Still a very strange way of buying everyday and the share price continued to drop.
Why?
Now that it is cheaper, the buying stopped: at least, calvintaneng is no longer highlighting any buying activities recently.

SGX
TSH IPO
Last Price 0.295
Today's Change 0.00 (0.00%)
Day's Change 0.29 - 0.315
Trading Volume 384,200

SGD 113,339 TRADED

What returns should we aim for in our long term investing? Probably 2x the risk free interest rate. Perhaps, if possible, aim for 15%.

Where a lot of money is in bank deposits earning very low returns, the return on the NAV is not going to be exciting. Moreov.er, the interest earned are also eroded by tax and the management fees. This would explain why a company is trading at a discount to the NAV. In iCap, the discount had been very steep, almost 40%+ to its NAV at times.

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To further explain the relationship between retained earnings and share price, take the example of a company that is selling at a PER of 10, so $1 of earnings is valued at $10, which for simplicity, is also its NAV. So if an extra $1 in retained earnings can generate $0.10 in new earnings, which will then also increase the share price by $1, at the same PER of 10, a 1:1 change. But if the new $1 in retained earnings can now generate $0.15 in extra earnings, this will produce a share price increase of $1.50 at the same PER of 10, in spite of the NAV increasing by only $1. If the new $1 in retained earnings is now parked in cash, which earns only $0.05, the share price increase is now only $0.50, less than the NAV increase. Now you know why share price discount develops even though NAV goes up.

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EPS
Retained Earnings (RE)
Returns on Equity (ROE)
Returns on Retained Earnings (RORE)
Net tangible asset (NTA)

Assuming all earnings are retained. No dividends given.

Assuming scenario where ROE varies:

1. ROE 5%
NTA or Equity RM 10
EPS or RE 50 sen
After 1 year NTA 10.50


2. ROE 10%
NTA at beginning of year RM 10
EPS and RE RM 1.00
NTA at end of year RM 11.00

3. ROE 15%
NTA at beginning of year RM 10
EPS and RE RM1.50
After 1 year NTA 11.50


Assuming you are looking for a return on your investment equal to the risk free rate of 5%,
- in scenario 1, you will pay 1x the initial NTA. That is the price = RM 10 PE =10x
- in scenario 2, you will pay 2x the initial NTA. That is the price = RM 20 PE = 20x
- in scenario 3, you will pay 3x the initial NTA. That is the price = RM 30. PE = 30x

On the other hand, if you aim for 10% return on your investment:
- in scenario 1, you will pay a fraction of the initial NTA. The price maybe 50% of the NTA = RM 5. PE = 5x
- in scenario 2, you will pay 1x the initial NTA. The price = RM 10 PE = 10x
- in scenatio 3, you will pay 1.5x the initial NTA. The price = RM 15. PE = 15x

This thinking explains why some companies are trading at a fraction of or discount to its NTA and why some are trading at a multiple or premium to their NTA.

This is a better way to understand valuation of stock.

Of course, having now determined the price by the above reasoning, we can derive the PEs accordingly as above.

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Posted by SEE_Research > 1 hour ago | Report Abuse

Calvintaneng ; he is BOASTFUL
AND KEEP ON WITH HIS BOASTS
Quote from calvin
*** I MADE A NICE 1,000 % GAIN or
100 % COMPOUNDED GAIN PER YEAR FOR THE PAST 10 YEARS
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;-)

SGX TSH

SGD

Previous Close

0.00

Open

0.305

Bid

0.29 x 254,600

Ask

0.30 x 66,600

Day's Range

0.295 - 0.315

Trading Volume

354,200

Fair Price RM 1.24 - 0.97

Interestingly, there are also a few companies that distribute all or almost all of its earnings every year and yet, they were able to grow their earnings yearly and correpondinly, their increasing value are reflected in their market price. They require little or no new capital to grow their earnings. Just find these, buy them at fair prices and see your investment grows over time.

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Posted by dumbMoney > 1 month ago | Report Abuse

My finance professor's Nobel Prize winning M&M Dividend Irrelevance Theorem in its simplest terms, states that in a world with no taxes, transaction costs, or asymmetric information, the dividend policy of a company should not affect its value. According to this theory, investors can create their own synthetic dividends by selling shares if the company doesn't pay dividends or using dividends received to buy more shares if the company does pay dividends. Its value is mainly in signaling the financial health of the business, like with an increase or a cut.

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When you invest $1 today, you are interested in how many $ you will receive in the future from the investment.

This return maybe through dividends or share appreciation. Warren Buffett shared that for every $1 retained by the company, its share price should similarly reflect at least an increment of $1.

Using this criteria of the relationship between retained earnings and share price you have the following scenarios:

1. $1 retained, share price increased by $1.
2. $1 retained, share price increased by >$1, increasing the value of the company.
3. $1 retained, share price decreased, and value of company declined.

Warren Buffett loves to focus on ROE and not just the profit. By retaining earnings, for example in bank deposits, yearly profits can increase. He is more interested in companies able to deliver high returns on equity, preferably those with ROE > 15% consistently. There are such companies in every market, they usually trade at very high price. Therefore, patience is a virtue in long term investing.

Searching for hidden gems in China's gloom.

I think it was KC Chong who wrote a statement that it was unwise to act on tips received on investment. Always do your own due diligence.

Posted by Integrity. Intelligent. Industrious. 3iii (iiinvestsmart)$€£¥ > Sep 21, 2023 9:52 PM | Report Abuse X

calvintaneng of Netx fame promoted PMCorp at 15 sen on 20/9/2012 as he posted. Yet, I believe the majority of those who invested into this counter AFTER his recommendation or promotion, probably LOST money. Do you agree, Calvintan?

20/9/2013 … 0.15 … 337,200 <-- Calvin promoted here.
23/9/2013 … 0.16 … 1,549,500
24/9/2013 … 0.165 … 829,400
25/9/2013 … 0.16 … 652,200
26/9/2013 … 0.165 … 691,300
27/9/2013 … 0.18 … 5,012,900
30/9/2013 … 0.18 … 2,132,400
1/10/2013 … 0.18 … 1,567,600
2/10/2013 … 0.18 … 1,022,100
3/10/2013 … 0.225 … 16,779,500 <--CROSSED 0.22 HERE
4/10/2013 … 0.225 … 12,496,100
7/10/2013 … 0.22 … 6,342,700 <--SAME PRICE 24/9/2023
8/10/2013 … 0.225 … 5,977,100
9/10/2013 … 0.22 … 6,259,300
10/10/2013 … 0.21 … 8,332,500
11/10/2013 … 0.215 … 3,180,100
14/10/2013 … 0.215 … 4,223,400
16/10/2013 … 0.23 … 7,535,700
17/10/2013 … 0.225 … 4,175,700
18/10/2013 … 0.225 … 2,274,900
21/10/2013 … 0.23 … 3,542,100
22/10/2013 … 0.225 … 1,643,200
23/10/2013 … 0.24 … 8,838,700
24/10/2013 … 0.25 … 3,892,900
25/10/2013 … 0.245 … 2,823,200
28/10/2013 … 0.245 … 3,059,300
29/10/2013 … 0.26 … 5,095,900
30/10/2013 … 0.285 … 7,106,500
31/10/2013 … 0.28 … 9,207,300
1/11/2013 … 0.29 … 4,120,600
4/11/2013 … 0.345 … 14,949,800
6/11/2013 … 0.335 … 11,792,600
7/11/2013 … 0.335 … 6,043,100
8/11/2013 … 0.34 … 3,011,000
11/11/2013 … 0.355 … 13,571,200 <---Price peaked here
12/11/2013 … 0.32 … 9,018,500
13/11/2013 … 0.265 … 28,057,000 <---Volume peaked here
14/11/2013 … 0.27 … 7,989,100
15/11/2013 … 0.265 … 4,419,100
18/11/2013 … 0.265 … 4,139,500
19/11/2013 … 0.27 … 4,418,900
20/11/2013 … 0.285 … 12,911,500
21/11/2013 … 0.275 … 1,909,500
22/11/2013 … 0.28 … 922,700
25/11/2013 … 0.275 … 1,839,500
26/11/2013 … 0.275 … 2,793,200
27/11/2013 … 0.275 … 1,410,000
28/11/2013 … 0.265 … 1,125,900
29/11/2013 … 0.26 … 1,553,200
2/12/2013 … 0.265 … 1,832,700
3/12/2013 … 0.26 … 618,600
4/12/2013 … 0.25 … 1,516,400
5/12/2013 … 0.235 … 2,188,200
6/12/2013 … 0.24 … 1,457,600
9/12/2013 … 0.23 … 503,000
10/12/2013 … 0.245 … 1,726,200
11/12/2013 … 0.235 … 794,000
12/12/2013 … 0.24 … 477,500
13/12/2013 … 0.24 … 421,000
16/12/2013 … 0.24 … 1,190,600
17/12/2013 … 0.24 … 831,300
18/12/2013 … 0.235 … 518,300
19/12/2013 … 0.24 … 475,200
20/12/2013 … 0.23 … 378,000
23/12/2013 … 0.225 … 1,534,900
24/12/2013 … 0.215 … 780,800
26/12/2013 … 0.23 … 482,800
27/12/2013 … 0.23 … 370,300
30/12/2013 … 0.22 … 674,200
31/12/2013 … 0.22 … 778,500
2/1/2014 … 0.22 … 369,600
3/1/2014 … 0.215 … 303,100
6/1/2014 … 0.23 … 1,273,800
7/1/2014 … 0.225 … 582,800
8/1/2014 … 0.255 … 4,265,800
9/1/2014 … 0.255 … 1,793,500
10/1/2014 … 0.255 … 920,200
13/1/2014 … 0.255 … 947,000
15/1/2014 … 0.265 … 2,802,800
16/1/2014 … 0.245 … 845,000
20/1/2014 … 0.245 … 486,300
21/1/2014 … 0.25 … 541,000
22/1/2014 … 0.25 … 544,700
23/1/2014 … 0.25 … 896,000
24/1/2014 … 0.245 … 307,500
27/1/2014 … 0.235 … 196,000
28/1/2014 … 0.24 … 98,800
29/1/2014 … 0.24 … 411,700
30/1/2014 … 0.24 … 15,000
3/2/2014 … 0.24 … -
4/2/2014 … 0.235 … 451,800
5/2/2014 … 0.235 … 73,600
6/2/2014 … 0.235 … 236,600
7/2/2014 … 0.235 … 312,000
10/2/2014 … 0.25 … 678,000
11/2/2014 … 0.24 … 494,800
12/2/2014 … 0.235 … 763,200
13/2/2014 … 0.235 … 1,077,400
14/2/2014 … 0.235 … 146,000
17/2/2014 … 0.235 … 1,002,700
18/2/2014 … 0.235 … 603,100
19/2/2014 … 0.26 … 3,806,500
20/2/2014 … 0.25 … 1,287,100
21/2/2014 … 0.25 … 1,088,500
24/2/2014 … 0.23 … 3,180,000
25/2/2014 … 0.225 … 1,301,700
26/2/2014 … 0.225 … 739,200
27/2/2014 … 0.215 … 2,244,200
28/2/2014 … 0.21 … 953,400
3/3/2014 … 0.21 … 1,594,100
4/3/2014 … 0.215 … 661,700
5/3/2014 … 0.215 … 134,500
6/3/2014 … 0.215 … 231,000
7/3/2014 … 0.22 … 288,000
10/3/2014 … 0.215 … 122,000
11/3/2014 … 0.215 … 327,000
12/3/2014 … 0.215 … 736,000
13/3/2014 … 0.215 … 118,700
14/3/2014 … 0.21 … 445,200
17/3/2014 … 0.22 … 475,500
18/3/2014 … 0.22 … 158,000

SHARE PRICE CROSSED 22 SEN ON 3/10/2013 AND ROSE TO THE HIGHEST OF 35.5 SEN ON 11.11.2013.
ON 18/3/2014, THE PRICE HAD DROPPED TO 22 SEN.
WE CAN CONCLUDE THAT MANY NEW PLAYERS WHO WERE IN THIS STOCK FROM 3/10/2013 TO 18/3/2014 (5 MONTHS PERIOD) DID NOT MAKE MONEY FROM THIS STOCK.

PMCorp PRICE TODAY 22/9/2023 RM 0.20

Date … Close … Volume
1/8/2013 … 0.15 … 727,000
2/8/2013 … 0.15 … 45,000
5/8/2013 … 0.155 … 71,800
6/8/2013 … 0.145 … 42,000
12/8/2013 … 0.145 … 144,000
13/8/2013 … 0.145 … 200,200
14/8/2013 … 0.145 … 330,200
15/8/2013 … 0.145 … 716,200
16/8/2013 … 0.15 … 414,300
19/8/2013 … 0.15 … 291,000
20/8/2013 … 0.145 … 294,000
21/8/2013 … 0.145 … 370,500
22/8/2013 … 0.145 … 665,100
23/8/2013 … 0.14 … 7,000
26/8/2013 … 0.14 … 553,900
27/8/2013 … 0.135 … 639,100
28/8/2013 … 0.135 … 183,000
29/8/2013 … 0.135 … 213,600
30/8/2013 … 0.135 … 123,600
2/9/2013 … 0.135 … 276,000
3/9/2013 … 0.135 … 64,500
4/9/2013 … 0.135 … 86,100
5/9/2013 … 0.135 … -
6/9/2013 … 0.13 … 269,200
9/9/2013 … 0.135 … 230,400
10/9/2013 … 0.13 … 408,000
11/9/2013 … 0.135 … 507,000
12/9/2013 … 0.135 … 5,000
13/9/2013 … 0.135 … -
17/9/2013 … 0.14 … 188,300
18/9/2013 … 0.14 … 84,000
19/9/2013 … 0.145 … 116,000
VOLUME BEFORE PROMOTION 5,000 TO 727,000 SHARES PER DAY TRANSACTED

20/9/2013 … 0.15 … 337,200 <-- Calvin promoted here.
23/9/2013 … 0.16 … 1,549,500
24/9/2013 … 0.165 … 829,400
25/9/2013 … 0.16 … 652,200
26/9/2013 … 0.165 … 691,300
27/9/2013 … 0.18 … 5,012,900
30/9/2013 … 0.18 … 2,132,400
1/10/2013 … 0.18 … 1,567,600
2/10/2013 … 0.18 … 1,022,100
3/10/2013 … 0.225 … 16,779,500 <--CROSSES ABOVE 0.20 HERE
4/10/2013 … 0.225 … 12,496,100
7/10/2013 … 0.22 … 6,342,700 <--SAME PRICE 24/9/2023
8/10/2013 … 0.225 … 5,977,100
9/10/2013 … 0.22 … 6,259,300
10/10/2013 … 0.21 … 8,332,500
11/10/2013 … 0.215 … 3,180,100
14/10/2013 … 0.215 … 4,223,400
16/10/2013 … 0.23 … 7,535,700
17/10/2013 … 0.225 … 4,175,700
18/10/2013 … 0.225 … 2,274,900
21/10/2013 … 0.23 … 3,542,100
22/10/2013 … 0.225 … 1,643,200
23/10/2013 … 0.24 … 8,838,700
24/10/2013 … 0.25 … 3,892,900
25/10/2013 … 0.245 … 2,823,200
28/10/2013 … 0.245 … 3,059,300
29/10/2013 … 0.26 … 5,095,900
30/10/2013 … 0.285 … 7,106,500
31/10/2013 … 0.28 … 9,207,300
1/11/2013 … 0.29 … 4,120,600
4/11/2013 … 0.345 … 14,949,800
6/11/2013 … 0.335 … 11,792,600
7/11/2013 … 0.335 … 6,043,100
8/11/2013 … 0.34 … 3,011,000
11/11/2013 … 0.355 … 13,571,200 <---Price peaked here
12/11/2013 … 0.32 … 9,018,500
13/11/2013 … 0.265 … 28,057,000 <---Volume peaked here
VOLUME INCREASED QUICKLY TO CROSS ABOVE THE 1 MILLION SHARES TRANSACTED DAILY AND PEAKED ON 13/11/2013 AT 28 MILLION SHARES TRANSACTED THAT DAY.
THE SHARE PRICE WAS FROM 15 SEN TO 22 SEN FROM 20/9/2013 TO 2/10/2013.
IT CROSSED ABOVE 22 SEN ON 3/10/2013.
THE MAJORITY BOUGHT ABOVE 22 SEN PER SHARE AFTER 2/10/2023.

PMCorp PRICE TODAY 22/9/2023 RM 0.20

Date … Close … Volume
1/8/2013 … 0.15 … 727,000
2/8/2013 … 0.15 … 45,000
5/8/2013 … 0.155 … 71,800
6/8/2013 … 0.145 … 42,000
12/8/2013 … 0.145 … 144,000
13/8/2013 … 0.145 … 200,200
14/8/2013 … 0.145 … 330,200
15/8/2013 … 0.145 … 716,200
16/8/2013 … 0.15 … 414,300
19/8/2013 … 0.15 … 291,000
20/8/2013 … 0.145 … 294,000
21/8/2013 … 0.145 … 370,500
22/8/2013 … 0.145 … 665,100
23/8/2013 … 0.14 … 7,000
26/8/2013 … 0.14 … 553,900
27/8/2013 … 0.135 … 639,100
28/8/2013 … 0.135 … 183,000
29/8/2013 … 0.135 … 213,600
30/8/2013 … 0.135 … 123,600
2/9/2013 … 0.135 … 276,000
3/9/2013 … 0.135 … 64,500
4/9/2013 … 0.135 … 86,100
5/9/2013 … 0.135 … -
6/9/2013 … 0.13 … 269,200
9/9/2013 … 0.135 … 230,400
10/9/2013 … 0.13 … 408,000
11/9/2013 … 0.135 … 507,000
12/9/2013 … 0.135 … 5,000
13/9/2013 … 0.135 … -
17/9/2013 … 0.14 … 188,300
18/9/2013 … 0.14 … 84,000
19/9/2013 … 0.145 … 116,000
20/9/2013 … 0.15 … 337,200 <-- Calvin promoted here.
23/9/2013 … 0.16 … 1,549,500
24/9/2013 … 0.165 … 829,400
25/9/2013 … 0.16 … 652,200
26/9/2013 … 0.165 … 691,300
27/9/2013 … 0.18 … 5,012,900
30/9/2013 … 0.18 … 2,132,400
1/10/2013 … 0.18 … 1,567,600
2/10/2013 … 0.18 … 1,022,100
3/10/2013 … 0.225 … 16,779,500
4/10/2013 … 0.225 … 12,496,100
7/10/2013 … 0.22 … 6,342,700 <--SAME PRICE 24/9/2023
8/10/2013 … 0.225 … 5,977,100
9/10/2013 … 0.22 … 6,259,300
10/10/2013 … 0.21 … 8,332,500
11/10/2013 … 0.215 … 3,180,100
14/10/2013 … 0.215 … 4,223,400
16/10/2013 … 0.23 … 7,535,700
17/10/2013 … 0.225 … 4,175,700
18/10/2013 … 0.225 … 2,274,900
21/10/2013 … 0.23 … 3,542,100
22/10/2013 … 0.225 … 1,643,200
23/10/2013 … 0.24 … 8,838,700
24/10/2013 … 0.25 … 3,892,900
25/10/2013 … 0.245 … 2,823,200
28/10/2013 … 0.245 … 3,059,300
29/10/2013 … 0.26 … 5,095,900
30/10/2013 … 0.285 … 7,106,500
31/10/2013 … 0.28 … 9,207,300
1/11/2013 … 0.29 … 4,120,600
4/11/2013 … 0.345 … 14,949,800
6/11/2013 … 0.335 … 11,792,600
7/11/2013 … 0.335 … 6,043,100
8/11/2013 … 0.34 … 3,011,000
11/11/2013 … 0.355 … 13,571,200 <---Price peaked here
12/11/2013 … 0.32 … 9,018,500
13/11/2013 … 0.265 … 28,057,000 <---Volume peaked here
14/11/2013 … 0.27 … 7,989,100
15/11/2013 … 0.265 … 4,419,100
18/11/2013 … 0.265 … 4,139,500
19/11/2013 … 0.27 … 4,418,900
20/11/2013 … 0.285 … 12,911,500
21/11/2013 … 0.275 … 1,909,500
22/11/2013 … 0.28 … 922,700
25/11/2013 … 0.275 … 1,839,500
26/11/2013 … 0.275 … 2,793,200
27/11/2013 … 0.275 … 1,410,000
28/11/2013 … 0.265 … 1,125,900
29/11/2013 … 0.26 … 1,553,200
2/12/2013 … 0.265 … 1,832,700
3/12/2013 … 0.26 … 618,600
4/12/2013 … 0.25 … 1,516,400
5/12/2013 … 0.235 … 2,188,200
6/12/2013 … 0.24 … 1,457,600
9/12/2013 … 0.23 … 503,000
10/12/2013 … 0.245 … 1,726,200
11/12/2013 … 0.235 … 794,000
12/12/2013 … 0.24 … 477,500
13/12/2013 … 0.24 … 421,000
16/12/2013 … 0.24 … 1,190,600
17/12/2013 … 0.24 … 831,300
18/12/2013 … 0.235 … 518,300
19/12/2013 … 0.24 … 475,200
20/12/2013 … 0.23 … 378,000
23/12/2013 … 0.225 … 1,534,900
24/12/2013 … 0.215 … 780,800
26/12/2013 … 0.23 … 482,800
27/12/2013 … 0.23 … 370,300
30/12/2013 … 0.22 … 674,200
31/12/2013 … 0.22 … 778,500
2/1/2014 … 0.22 … 369,600
3/1/2014 … 0.215 … 303,100
6/1/2014 … 0.23 … 1,273,800
7/1/2014 … 0.225 … 582,800
8/1/2014 … 0.255 … 4,265,800
9/1/2014 … 0.255 … 1,793,500
10/1/2014 … 0.255 … 920,200
13/1/2014 … 0.255 … 947,000
15/1/2014 … 0.265 … 2,802,800
16/1/2014 … 0.245 … 845,000
20/1/2014 … 0.245 … 486,300
21/1/2014 … 0.25 … 541,000
22/1/2014 … 0.25 … 544,700
23/1/2014 … 0.25 … 896,000
24/1/2014 … 0.245 … 307,500
27/1/2014 … 0.235 … 196,000
28/1/2014 … 0.24 … 98,800
29/1/2014 … 0.24 … 411,700
30/1/2014 … 0.24 … 15,000
3/2/2014 … 0.24 … -
4/2/2014 … 0.235 … 451,800
5/2/2014 … 0.235 … 73,600
6/2/2014 … 0.235 … 236,600
7/2/2014 … 0.235 … 312,000
10/2/2014 … 0.25 … 678,000
11/2/2014 … 0.24 … 494,800
12/2/2014 … 0.235 … 763,200
13/2/2014 … 0.235 … 1,077,400
14/2/2014 … 0.235 … 146,000
17/2/2014 … 0.235 … 1,002,700
18/2/2014 … 0.235 … 603,100
19/2/2014 … 0.26 … 3,806,500
20/2/2014 … 0.25 … 1,287,100
21/2/2014 … 0.25 … 1,088,500
24/2/2014 … 0.23 … 3,180,000
25/2/2014 … 0.225 … 1,301,700
26/2/2014 … 0.225 … 739,200
27/2/2014 … 0.215 … 2,244,200
28/2/2014 … 0.21 … 953,400
3/3/2014 … 0.21 … 1,594,100
4/3/2014 … 0.215 … 661,700
5/3/2014 … 0.215 … 134,500
6/3/2014 … 0.215 … 231,000
7/3/2014 … 0.22 … 288,000
10/3/2014 … 0.215 … 122,000
11/3/2014 … 0.215 … 327,000
12/3/2014 … 0.215 … 736,000
13/3/2014 … 0.215 … 118,700
14/3/2014 … 0.21 … 445,200
17/3/2014 … 0.22 … 475,500
18/3/2014 … 0.22 … 158,000

Netx was 1 sen or 2 sen. So very cheap. And our friend wished to drum this up to 8 sen and even 40 sen. Imagine, if the price had gone to that level, calvintaneng would be extremely happy that everyone made a lot of money. But events turned out the reverse. Afterall, the price will always follow the earnings (fundamentals of the company), unless there is a snake-oil salesman drumming up its sales at insane price. Lucky for Netx, many sane people were around too. :-)

I prefer the first edition. It is free from clutters and straight to the main points. Also, it is a smaller book and it was probably this book that Warren Buffett read before attending the class of Benjamin Graham in Columbia University.

HEIM Fair Price RM 27.50 - 24.22

Can you understand why you brought up Patimas, Utusan, London Biscuit, Sumatech, MMag, GPacket and Serba; and what did you hope that I would have done for these? Strange.

By the way, calvintaneng and friends deleted many posts in Netx. That was not nice indeed. It turned out the naysayers were actually telling the truth and this was prevented by calvintaneng and friends who abused their privileges in that thread. Despicable behaviour, don't you agree, Mr. Calvintaneng?

My dear calvintaneng,

You should learn to be truthful. You knew what happened. Also, I explained why I had to change from 3iii to the present.

Never mind, I shall clarify once again, since it is so obviously important to calvintaneng. Someone cloned my ID 3iii and started posting using the same 3iii. I had to change it to 3iii (iiinvestsmart). It was cloned again and I had to modify this to Integrity. Intelligent. Industrious. 3iii (iiinvestsmart). This was again cloned and abused. It finally stopped when I used: Integrity. Intelligent. Industrious. 3iii (iiinvestsmart)$€£¥

Adding the last few non-alphabets stopped this abuser. Now that I have explained, hope calvintaneng will be at peace and not imply anything else. Flattery is to see your ID being cloned, so goes the saying but it was probably just someone abusing the privileges of participating in this forum and not behaving himself. :-)

I have never changed my ID in this forum. It is still 3iii. Just take a good look.
What is calvintaneng implying?

HEIM
http s:/ /myinvestingnotes.blog spot.com/2023/09/heim_21.html

Carlsberg
http s:/ /myinvestingnotes.blog spot.com/2023/09/carlsberg.html

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Posted by calvintaneng > 2013-09-29 22:31 | Report Abuse


Listen to the Words of Wisdom, "STRONG MEN RETAIN RICHES"

Our Target Price For PM Corp Still Stand At RM1.50. Very Long Term: RM10.00!

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Target price of TSH ... ???RM2, RM4, ??/

Who is i3lurker? I have not even realised his presence all these years. Suddenly, he became so ... :-) Never mind.

Sadly, now you will not be able to review the first 93 pages of PMCorp thread, for various reasons. Never mind.

Sadly, now you will not be able to review the first 93 pages of PMCorp thread, for various reasons. Never mind.

How to understand the above thread unless you review the facts? It was interesting reviewing what was posted 10 years ago. Good lessons for many investors.

10 anniversary of calvintaneng in i3. Congratulations. It was interesting to review your posts on PM Corp of 2013. Afterall, that was what you wished to highlight in the headline.

https://klse.i3investor.com/web/forum/forum-thread/608694619

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Posted by anbz > 2013-10-19 17:35 | Report Abuse

buy little to dump zillion...as if tigers are waiting to hop onto u..hehe...face value is what has been announced...intrinsic value...might be only be a claim( apa lagi if it has made hundred million of losses...macam cerita MAS pulak/yet value is claimed to be astonishing? hmmm?...whatever it is ..the face and real value of PW are already there to be looked and checked...and gosh..it is still higher than the so-called 'actual' value of PM......
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by the way...there're only 60m shares of PW...outstanding
and there're ...around 800m of PM shares....fuh banyak gila for not so ...interesting stock...
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choose which has more prospect......u want PMcorp to achieved TP RM 1.50?...think again...before it even reach 40 cents....they will pressure u to hell bottom
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and about calvin stating about a land owned by PM..at RM 35 sekaki...betul ke?
...kalau betul pun....PW has land that has value around RM 35...yet not sekaki...suku kaki pun ada..hehe
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Posted by mikekong55 > 2013-10-19 16:39 | Report Abuse

calvin, are you the TAN ENG YEE stated as the top 30 shareholders of PMCORP? out of curiosity just for the asking only.>>>

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Posted by anbz > 2013-10-19 16:25 | Report Abuse

EPS (Cents) comparison> between PW and PMcorp?...(2 part of discussion)

2001 PW consolidated bhd made EPS 20.11(Cents)....2001 PMcorp made .....EPS 4.85(Cents)
2002 PW consolidated bhd made EPS 18.20(Cents)....2002 PMcorp made NEGATIVE 46.22 !!!
2003 PW consolidated bhd made EPS 13.17(Cents)....2003 PMcorp made NEGATIVE 0.75
2004 PW consolidated bhd made EPS 1.820(Cents)....2004 PMcorp made NEGATIVE 140.39 !!!
2005 PW consolidated bhd made EPS 10.07(Cents)....2005 PMcorp made NEGATIVE 1.16
2006 PW consolidated bhd made EPS 6.880(Cents)....2006 PMcorp made NEGATIVE 9.54 !!!
2007 PW consolidated bhd made EPS 8.600(Cents)....2007 PMcorp made .....EPS 3.41(Cents)
2008 PW consolidated bhd made EPS 1.670(Cents)....2008 PMcorp made NEGATIVE 5.54
2009 PW consolidated bhd made EPS 0.180(Cents)....2009 PMcorp made NEGATIVE 0.17
2010 PW consolidated bhd made EPS 0.270(Cents)....2010 PMcorp made NEGATIVE 0.63
2011 PW consolidated bhd made EPS 7.810(Cents)....2011 PMcorp made .....EPS 0.39(Cents)
2012 PW consolidated bhd made EPS 0.320(Cents)....2012 PMcorp made .....EPS 1.13(Cents)

previous 4 quarters cummulatively
PW consolidated bhd made EPS 8.14(Cents)

previous 4 quarters cummulatively
PMcorp made EPS 1.01(Cents)

LATEST 4 QUARTERS...which is higher ? 8.14 cents or 1.01 cents? this make me confused because u..mr calvin..saying that PM is better???

from 2001 till now 2013...PW always make money...while PM only make money in 2001, 2007 , 2011 and 2012...hehehe

takpa bagi chance sama PM..kita rujuk itu 4 tahun...2001, 2007 , 2011 and 2012..let see

2001 ..which is bigger between 20.11(Cents) and 4.85(Cents)??? tell me ..then how many time?
2007 ..which is bigger between 8.600(Cents) and 3.41(Cents)??? tell me ..then how many time?
2011 ..which is bigger between 7.810(Cents) and 0.39(Cents)??? tell me ..then how many time?

semua jawapan di atas PW menang besar ke atas PM ...macam Man City belasah MU 6-1...
tapi ini bukan 6-1 ...ini 11-1 !!!

mana gol sagu hati 1 tu dapat?
2012 PW 0.32 is less than PM 1.13 ..mau tanya how many time lagi... tapi 2012 dua-dua profit pun ciput..tak payah tanya...hehe

in 2002 PM lost 46.22 cents !!! per share and in 2004 PM also lost 140.39 cents !!!

do we call this ..a business or stealing???

http://klse.i3investor.com/servlets/stk/fin/7134.jsp
http://klse.i3investor.com/servlets/stk/fin/4081.jsp
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proven PW is the superior ...no such thing that it is overvalued by market and that PMcorp is undervalued? are u kidding me....? wait for other revelation...that's why u calvin said in your posting before:
1.I almost couldn't sleep thinking of PW Consolidated last night.
2.Thank God I don't have any PW Consolidated shares.
3.I only have THE ROCK SOLID Shares of PM CORP. So I Slept Soundly zzzzzz.
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your statement no 1 is contradicts again statement no.2 + no.3
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so no. 2 and no.3 are false..while no.1 is true...
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now everyone knows why u cannot sleep...because u found your superior match...not in his language or english or vast knowledge...his honesty and records of the company and it can be checked...hehe...the score is actually more than 11-1 ...i presume
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Simple and straightforward thinking.

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Posted by inwest88 > 2013-10-19 15:42 | Report Abuse

calvin, I have read through all your postings and allow me to drop some comments for the first time.

1) you seem to be a very learned person with vast knowledge in the property sector as well as in reading financial statements
2) you have a very good command of the English language and the words and phrases you use can be easily understood
3) your points are full of logic and at times convincing

On the other hand, in my opinion
a) you have over-played the benefits of the Tudor brand of chocolates which may irritate some people
b) the way you write all the good things about PM Corp may lead to some people having questions about your motive
c) I am not sure how '"good" or "bad" is the company buy I trust kcchongnz's views on this stock

In fact, I am considering to put in RM11,000 (50 lots at 22 sen) and keep, let's say, for a year. In the worst scenario I am prepared to lose
80% of the investment. However if what you say all along is true, the 11K can turn to 30K, 40K or even 50K.
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