Posted by 3iii > 2018-08-12 08:05 | Report Abuse

My Golden Rule of Investing: Companies that grow revenues and earnings will see share prices grow over time.

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stockraider

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Posted by stockraider > 2020-10-17 13:09 |

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stockraider

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Posted by stockraider > 2020-10-17 13:10 | Report Abuse

VERY DISHONEST 3iii LOH...!

NO INTEGRITY LOH...!!

Posted by Integrity. Intelligent. Industrious. 3iii (iiinvestsmart)$€£¥ > Oct 16, 2020 1:01 PM | Report Abuse

:-)

maybe we should get off dishonest raider's back for the next month, unless he continues to promote incessantly.

Posted by Integrity. Intelligent. Industrious. 3iii (iiinvestsmart)$€£¥ > Oct 17, 2020 12:55 PM | Report Abuse

stockraider is so stressed. Money does not buy happiness. Mental health is important too. Have a nice weekend. Walk the park. Kick the ducks. You will feel better and realise your inner self more rationally.

stockraider

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Posted by stockraider > 2020-10-17 14:16 | Report Abuse

An extraordinary investor has the following qualities:

1 He must be intelligent with good business sense.

2 He must have a good foresight to be able to see ahead of other investors.

3 He must be able to control his emotion of fear.

4 He must be prepared to take some calculated risk.

5 He can make his own decision and not easily side-tracked.

6 He knows the basic share selection fundamentals.

DON BE CON BY SOHAI....NETX RI SUBSCRIPTION HAS SO MUCH MARGIN OF SAFETY, THAT IT EVEN DROP TO 13 SEN...U STILL MAKE MONIES FROM THE FRE WARRANT MAH!!

VERY IMPORTANT TO U DO YOUR BASIC MATHS AGAIN LOH..!!

Lets do the maths again loh...!!

1.5m share excess rights at 13 sen = cost Rm175000

Raider will get 1.5m @ 15 sen = Mkt value Rm 225000
Raider will get 750k free warrant wort 3.5 sen = Rm 26250 say Rm 26000

So Raider overall mkt value Rm 225k pus Rm 26k = Rm 251k
But Raider overall cost amounting to = Rm 175k

Raider overall profit is cool Rm 76k

The unique part is raider only spend Rm 500 to get next & even consolidated Raider make a loss of Rm 250.

But Raider can easily make back Rm 76k from this exercise loh...!!

Thats why Raider tell u must take the RI plus excess RI applications of NETX loh...!

Posted by Sslee > Oct 17, 2020 1:53 PM | Report Abuse

Haha,
Calvin at less know that Netx did not work out for him and move on.
Only stockraider is still everyday in Next and day dreaming.

stockraider

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Posted by stockraider > 2020-10-18 16:22 |

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stockraider

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Posted by stockraider > 2020-10-18 16:23 | Report Abuse

REMEMBER GENERAL RAIDER ALSO ADVICE SOUNDLY AN EXIT THE STRATEGY FOR PANICKY INVESTORS AS FOLLOWS MAH:

Posted by stockraider > Jan 10, 2018 10:43 PM | Report Abuse X

Don be a pondan loh.....!!

General Raider said the current normal trading range of Hengyuan is Rm 15.98 to Rm 18.98 loh.....!!

So today down Rm 0.08 is very normal....it is still under consolidation mah..!!

The TP of hengyuan is Rm 22.00 to Rm 42.00 loh....!!

If u r panicky...raider advice u this loh....if hengyuan drop below Rm 16.00, u lari kuat kuat loh...!!
If hengyuan by 31-3-2018.. still cannot exceed rm 19.00, u also lari kuat kuat loh..!!

Other than these conditions, u just dumb dumb hold....it will exceed rm 20.00 to reach rm 22.00 to rm 42.00 loh....!!

Trust the china fund buying power loh....!!


RAIDER SAY VERY IMPORTANT NOTE;
THUS IF U HAD HEEDED RAIDER ADVICE U HAVE SOLD EARLIER AT RM 16.00 BUT IF U DID NOT SUBSEQUENTLY RAIDER MAKE A VERY VERY IMPORTANT LARI KUAT KUAT AT RM 13.00.

THERE ARE NO REASONS IF U R RAIDER STAUNCH LOYAL FOLLOWERS, DID NOT RUN HENGYUAN AT RM 13.00 LOH...!!

Posted by Integrity. Intelligent. Industrious. 3iii (iiinvestsmart)$€£¥ > 2020-10-21 07:35 | Report Abuse

QVM

Quality first, then Price

Always ensure Quality and Management criterias are met.

If not, discard the stock and don't even waste time on its valuation.

Your time is better spent on finding another stock.

Always look at RISKS first, then the potential reward.

Below captures an example to illustrate all the above points.



NETX

If only conman calvin and dishonest raider have been honest and truthful, they would not be swimming naked in Netx today. Scenery, Mikecyc and 3iii have all kindly highlighted the risks in this company.

Pride, stupidity and greed have blinded conman calvin and dishonest raider. Looking at these duo's posts, they are deplorable indeed. Are they kidding?

Their followers have evaporated and walked away with losses and shame. Shame because many participated in deleting the posts that were posted by the naysayers to warn them of the risks in this stock.

God forgives but the stock market can be most unforgiving. Stripped naked maybe painful but hopefully learning some valuable lessons will place them better to handle their next stock investment.


Good morning to all.

3iii

Posted by Integrity. Intelligent. Industrious. 3iii (iiinvestsmart)$€£¥ > 2020-11-10 12:42 | Report Abuse

V-shaped recovery of many stocks' prices in my portfolio today.

akc008

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Posted by akc008 > 2020-11-17 21:23 | Report Abuse

How will the mkt reacts on coming Monday ? Strong rally or strong

Posted by Integrity. Intelligent. Industrious. 3iii (iiinvestsmart)$€£¥ > 2020-11-24 11:50 | Report Abuse

Vaccines are welcomed. The true results have yet to be released. Efficacy of 90%: what does this mean? We are still awaiting the full trial reports, especially with regards to the safety issues at 2 months. The safety issues long-term will not be known from these trials.

Also, the pandemic will not be controlled by vaccination alone. There will still be a lot of unknowns, surprises and uncertainties.

More importantly, the public health measures continue to be observed: wash hands, wear mask, social distancing.

Sslee

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Posted by Sslee > 2021-03-10 12:22 | Report Abuse

Dear 3iii,
Your student is using your name to promote pump and dump at PA forum.
Do you want to comment: Is PA a gruesome company?
Can you sleep well with inner peace when your name is throw under the bus?

Mikecyc Do refer to ethical Sifu , learn n investing with ethical Sifu 3iii with inner peace of investing ...
10/03/2021 3:09

Posted by enigmatic [hodl your shares] > 2021-07-07 21:52 | Report Abuse

Anymore golden rules to share, 3iii?

Posted by Integrity. Intelligent. Industrious. 3iii (iiinvestsmart)$€£¥ > 2021-08-31 15:55 | Report Abuse

Short-cut to figure out fake stock tips provider

Be aware of tips provider.

Be aware of high return promises. 50%+ monthly return promise is the almost sure-shot sign of fraud.

You should only choose equity advisors who provide investment tips with detailed logic and proper report on the company.

Most tips providers don’t provide any logic. They just mention “Buy with target and stop loss”. Ask them what is the rationale behind the call? Find out whether you are getting any satisfactory answer or they are just avoiding it?

Don’t get fascinated by the fabulous past records and few clients’ testimony. Those can be false also.

Various new methods are coming day by day to trap innocent investors. So, always be aware.

Posted by Integrity. Intelligent. Industrious. 3iii (iiinvestsmart)$€£¥ > 2022-01-26 16:13 | Report Abuse

To maintain your portfolio at peak performance.
To pick the right stock for the long term, you should keep to:

1. Buying quality companies
2. Buying at the right price - potential return > 15% at acceptable risk (where the potential return to potential loss of >3x.)

Your ability to do the above is all you need to build a great portfolio that will meet your expectations.

To maintain your portfolio at peak performance, you will need to manage it well, optimizing its performance and preventing the companies that occasionally go south from damaging it.

Portfolio management chores take a minimal amount of time.

Posted by Integrity. Intelligent. Industrious. 3iii (iiinvestsmart)$€£¥ > 2022-01-27 13:35 | Report Abuse

It’s better to buy a wonderful company at fair price than a fair company at wonderful price.

1. Understand the business
2. Business must have DCA
3. Management with integrity
4. Buy at a sensible price

Posted by Integrity. Intelligent. Industrious. 3iii (iiinvestsmart)$€£¥ > 2022-04-15 12:46 | Report Abuse

We can learn a great deal about the quality of the businesses through comparative analysis using 2 companies.

Nestle
All values MYR Thousands.
2021
2020
2019
2018
2017

Sales/Revenue
5,734,000
5,412,000
5,518,000
5,519,000
5,260,000

Net Income before Extraordinaries
751,817.0
724,769.0
875,725.0
875,890.0
812,216.0

Net Operating Cash Flow
852,877.0
877,811.0
689,747.0
1,004,093.0
699,831.0

Capital Expenditures
(274,758.0)
(294,553.0)
(183,253.0)
(151,645.0)
(164,455.0)

Cash Dividends Paid - Total
(544,040.0)
(656,600.0)
(656,600.0)
(644,875.0)
(633,150.0)

Free Cash Flow
578,119.0
583,258.0
506,494.0
858,422.0
535,376.0


POH KONG
All values MYR Thousands.
2021
2020
2019
2018
2017

Sales/Revenue
903,000
749,000
1,001,000
1,004,000
877,000

Net Income before Extraordinaries
52,817.4
38,976.1
36,450.5
26,885.2
37,485.8

Net Operating Cash Flow
23,350.4
78,315.7
27,599.1
(7,789.7)
73,527.4

Capital Expenditures
(1,412.2)
(3,942.2)
(6,126.3)
(4,717.5)
(6,958.0)

Cash Dividends Paid - Total
(4,924.2)
(4,924.2)
(4,103.5)
(4,103.5)
(4,103.5)

Free Cash Flow
21,938.2
74,373.4
21,472.8
(12,507.2)
66,569.5

qqq3333

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Posted by qqq3333 > 2022-04-15 15:26 | Report Abuse

Quality over quantity
Business sense and think strategy
Test your business sense
I like this thread over the ranking of stocks

qqq3333

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Posted by qqq3333 > 2022-04-15 15:28 | Report Abuse

Stocks always respond to quality over maths....anyone who follows the stock market long enough know this to be true

Posted by Integrity. Intelligent. Industrious. 3iii (iiinvestsmart)$€£¥ > 2022-05-19 17:30 | Report Abuse

https://www.cnbc.com/pre-markets/

Futures indicating the US markets will open down tonight.
Value investors should be excited.

Posted by Integrity. Intelligent. Industrious. 3iii (iiinvestsmart)$€£¥ > 2022-05-19 17:34 | Report Abuse

In a bear market, you buy. In a bull market, do you need to sell? Yes and no.

Anyway, you can make money in both the bear and the bull market.

The most important thing is to stay focus, true to your investing principles and maintain discipline in your investing.

Posted by Integrity. Intelligent. Industrious. 3iii (iiinvestsmart)$€£¥ > 2 months ago | Report Abuse

Last Price Change Volume
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Open: 1483.76 Day Range: 1458.85 - 1483.76 Prev Close: 1493.95
Value: 1.951b Year Range: 1458.85 - 1620.44 Year Change: -7.07%


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Posted by Integrity. Intelligent. Industrious. 3iii (iiinvestsmart)$€£¥ > 2 months ago | Report Abuse

When stock market crashes, your cash buying power appreciates, as you can buy more units of stocks now than before the crash.

But the outlook for the stock market, at present, is very negative. So much negative economic news projected.

For a long term investor, you need not have to buy at the lowest price. One should buy a stock when it is already obviously cheap (related to its intrinsic value). Of course, it may still get cheaper but you would have already have a margin of safety at the price you bought.

Posted by Integrity. Intelligent. Industrious. 3iii (iiinvestsmart)$€£¥ > 2 months ago | Report Abuse

March 2020 Index at 1206
Today 13.6/2022 Index at 1465.9

Posted by Integrity. Intelligent. Industrious. 3iii (iiinvestsmart)$€£¥ > 2 months ago | Report Abuse

My first bear market was in October 1987. My stockbroker revealed to me that morning that many brokers worldwide would be in trouble. I did not have any money in the market then.

My next bear market was in 1997/1998. I had started investing since 1993, but stopped putting money into the market in 1995/96. My portfolio value went down with the severe bear market. The value dropped below my invested capital, but I was sure the intrinsic value of my portfolio was higher than the quotational values and thus, did not sell. By 2002, perhaps earlier, my portfolio value was higher than my invested capital. I was surprised and gained a lot of valuable lessons from this bear market.

The next market was the tech bubble bursting in 2000. In Malaysia, many were riding on the 2nd tier local market which was definitely in a bubble. When this burst, many saw their portfolio values decimated. Many did not recover after this. I stayed clear of the lesser quality stocks and was spared the ordeal here.

Another ferocious bear market occured in 2008. The subprime crisis reared its ugly head in the US and the West. From early reports, this was not going to be a concern and could be contained easily. Alas, this was not the case and the subprime crisis led to the fall of markets worldwide. Many markets dropped 40% or so. Yet, I was in the market and did not sell. It was painful seeing your stocks going down with the market. But knowing the intrinsic values of the individual stocks and the overall portfolio value based on these intrinsic values, it would be crazy to sell just because the prices had dropped. Once again, good luck smiled on my portfolio. The capitulation point occured when Lehman collapsed. The market tanked and reached its lowest point. The recovery was not immediate. It was another 6 months when the V-shaped recovery. This occured in March 2009 and my porfolio value galloped upwards till today.

The next shocked was March 2020 when the market collapsed due to the Covid pandemic. However, though well prepared to take advantage of a possible bear, the collapsed quickly reverted due to massive quantitative easing, various stimuli by the government and lower interest rates. The recovery was just too fast and the market shot upwards, not because the companies were doing better, but the market was being pushed up by expanding PE. Market players were willing to price the shares at higher multiples. Some businesses that benefited from the pandemic were hyped up due to high demands for their products and services during the lockdown. Now that the lockdown is over for most countries, and the world is adopting to opening up their economy and society, these hyped up counters have fallen substantially. Yet, this did not count as a bear market, but just individual companies collapsing for earnings reasons.

The last 6 months, we have seen so many news coming out on so many projections of the economy. Inflation has reared its ugly head, but for many months, those in power had reassured that this is not a problem and can be easily controlled. Increasingly, it looks like they are wrong. Inflation is now the main enemy to be tackled by the central bankers ahead of ensuring employment at a reasonable level. Due to a confluent of many geopolitical factors, supply chain disruption, and actions by the central banks to counter inflation through increasing interest rates and quantitative tightening, the economies are expected to cool down. When the CPI of US recently released showed it to be higher, it looked like inflation has yet to reached its peak. Further actions by the Fed are needed and quickly too. Thus, the fear of a possible recession is now feared. Perhaps, a recession is the only means to control inflation today. We are now in the latest bear market.

Are you well positioned to benefit from this latest bear market?

ahbah

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Posted by ahbah > 2 months ago | Report Abuse

Today, I oredi pengsan !

No eye see !

Posted by The_JQuestion > 2 months ago | Report Abuse

another day tomorrow or whole week to come.... best position urselves

Posted by Integrity. Intelligent. Industrious. 3iii (iiinvestsmart)$€£¥ > 2 months ago | Report Abuse

Cryptocurrencies crashing. Soon, this will affect the main markets too. Contagion effects.

nicholas99

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Posted by nicholas99 > 2 months ago | Report Abuse

practically.. bitcoin referred as safe haven is crashing.. the traditional market also diving in result.

ahbah

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Posted by ahbah > 2 months ago | Report Abuse

3i is spreading fright n fear to the main mkt, exposing his long n sharp fangs, readi to pounce on any helpless n delicious meals.

Posted by Integrity. Intelligent. Industrious. 3iii (iiinvestsmart)$€£¥ > 2 months ago | Report Abuse

What I observed the last 2 years in the stock market?

Many newcomers into the stock market. Especially the younger investors who had a lot of time during the lockdown. They had little to do and the "only interesting game in town" was the stock market. Also, many stock promoters organized free or next to free seminars on trading and investing.

Nothing excites the newcomers than a rising market. The stock markets were all at the lowest in March 2020. Then something "miraculous" happened. There were so much money created and given freely to tom, dick and harry, and these free or virtually free money found their ways into the stock market and the cryptocurrencies. A bull run occurred which was fast and furious in both markets. Everyone in the market felt they were geniuses!

I could feel the elation in the whatsapps messages I received from new players. "I had invested into glove stocks. I am thinking of adding more." " I bought some bitcoins and I think it will reach a US1m per bitcoin. When I have the money, I hope to add more."

However, the last 6 months, reality strikes. These stocks have corrected severely. Those who rode up the technology stocks in US too have seen their stocks dived precipitously.

For those who have learned the lessons of the volatility of the stock markets, hopefully these lessons will guide them well in their future investing. For those who failed to learn, well, the smarter thing is to realise these lessons and continue to invest in educating themselves on investing to be better investors.

Referring to ahbah that 3iii is spreading fear to the main market, this is only his impression. The biggest enemy in investing is yourself; yourself alone and no others. Invest, equip and educate yourself to profit from the stock market over the long term.

ahbah

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Posted by ahbah > 2 months ago | Report Abuse

3iii is an invincible red mkt expert. No challenge him during such mkt condition, no one can beat him !

ahbah

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Posted by ahbah > 2 months ago | Report Abuse

Main mkts now oredi affected. 3i wish now come true, so he is veri hapi now ?

Posted by Integrity. Intelligent. Industrious. 3iii (iiinvestsmart)$€£¥ > 2 months ago | Report Abuse

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10.43 am 15.6.2022

Posted by Integrity. Intelligent. Industrious. 3iii (iiinvestsmart)$€£¥ > 2 months ago | Report Abuse

I get excited when a good company dropped 20% or more, below its intrinsic value.

markgold

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Posted by markgold > 2 months ago | Report Abuse

Could you name a few in your opinion is 20% below its intrinsic value.

ahbah

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Posted by ahbah > 2 months ago | Report Abuse

Mkt now is exciting mode for 3i but in painful mode for ahbah !!!

3i ... the undisputed winner !

Posted by Integrity. Intelligent. Industrious. 3iii (iiinvestsmart)$€£¥ > 2 months ago | Report Abuse

Stock prices dropping due to central banks increasing bank interest rates.

Are you selling in anticipating of further falling prices ahead or are you buying great companies that are already cheap and that their prices may get even lower?

Be greedy when others are fearful.

Posted by Integrity. Intelligent. Industrious. 3iii (iiinvestsmart)$€£¥ > 2 months ago | Report Abuse

CPI in US is 8.6%. The US Fed rate is still far behind the curve.

ahbah

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Posted by ahbah > 2 months ago | Report Abuse

I could see clearly 3i is now a greedy, hungri n vicious bear in the mkt, looking for his meals !

ahbah

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Posted by ahbah > 2 months ago | Report Abuse

Even my best fren is not able to protect me from the gridi bear now !

Posted by Integrity. Intelligent. Industrious. 3iii (iiinvestsmart)$€£¥ > 1 month ago | Report Abuse

Sound investment principles produced generally sound investment results.

Posted by Integrity. Intelligent. Industrious. 3iii (iiinvestsmart)$€£¥ > 1 month ago | Report Abuse

General trading: anticipating moves in the market as a whole.

Selective trading: picking out stocks which will do better than the market in the short term.

Benjamin Graham warned what NOT to do. He did not consider that either general trading or selective trading has any place in investment practice. Both of them are essentiallly *speculative* in character because they depend for success not only on the ability to foretell specifically what is going to happen, but on the ability also to do this more cleverly than a host of competitors in the field.

Posted by Integrity. Intelligent. Industrious. 3iii (iiinvestsmart)$€£¥ > 1 month ago | Report Abuse

The real money in investing will have to be made - as most of it has been in the past - not out of buying and selling, but out of OWNING AND HOLDING securities, receiving interest and dividends, and benefiting from their long-term increase in value.


The above statement is very true indeed.

ahbah

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Posted by ahbah > 1 month ago | Report Abuse

But mani gardeners throw out the flowers n keep the weeds in our garden ?

Posted by Integrity. Intelligent. Industrious. 3iii (iiinvestsmart)$€£¥ > 1 month ago | Report Abuse

Observation over many years has taught us that the chief losses to investors come from the purchase of low-quality securities at times of favourable business conditions.

The purchasers view the current good earnings as equivalent to 'earning power' and assume that prosperity is synonymous with safety.


Benjamin Graham

Posted by Integrity. Intelligent. Industrious. 3iii (iiinvestsmart)$€£¥ > 2 weeks ago | Report Abuse

Margin of Safety

The function of the margin of safety is, in essence, that of rendering unnecessary an accurate estimate of the future.

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