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2022-12-31 08:13 | Report Abuse

Understanding a Growth Company

Growth companies have characterized the technology industry. The quintessential example of a growth company is Google, which has *grown revenues, cash flows, and earnings substantially* since its initial public offering (IPO).

Growth companies such as Google are expected to increase their profits *markedly* in the future; thus, the market bids up their share prices to *high valuations*.

This contrasts with *mature companies*, such as utility companies, which tend to report *stable earnings with little to no growth*.


Main points:

- Growth companies create value by continuing to *expand above-average earnings, free cash flow, and spending on research and development*.

- Growth investors are less worried about the dividend growth, high price-to-earnings ratios, and high price-to-book ratios that growth companies face because the *focus is on sales growth and maintaining industry leadership.*

Overall, growth stocks *pay lower dividends* than value stocks because profits are *reinvested* in the business to *drive earnings growth*.

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2022-12-31 08:07 | Report Abuse

Three growth stocks (with more expensive valuations than the S&P 500), Google, Tesla, and Amazon are also the leaders in their respective niche industries.

1. Google is continuing its technology conglomerate-status by expanding into new technologies such as *artificial intelligence*.

2. Tesla is the popular *electric car maker and undisputed leader* of the industry.

3. Amazon continues to disrupt the retail sector through its *e-commerce platform*, which takes away business from traditional brick-and-mortar retail competitors.

Those are attractive narratives for investors looking for growth to continue into the future.

That being said, these three companies are also now fairly established within their industries and are considered solid investments that have very different characteristics from when they started out as small companies years ago.

Many growth companies exist in different sectors, one being Etsy (ETSY), the e-commerce retail platform that sells a large array of vintage and craft items.

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2022-12-31 08:02 | Report Abuse

Growth Companies During Bull and Bear Markets

During bull markets, growth stocks are preferred and tend to outperform value stocks because of environmental risk and the perceived low risk in the markets. However, growth stocks tend to underperform value stocks during bear markets because weak economic activity hinders sales growth and the growth engine that drives the stocks higher.

Mature companies tend to weather bear markets better than growth companies as they are firmly rooted within their industry, have a dedicated consumer base, are well-known, and have stronger financials, such as larger cash reserves to ride out the poor performing economy.

Mature companies also have an easier time raising capital in difficult economic times because of the fact that they are established and their credit is proven; growth companies often have less established financials so obtaining a loan, for example, may be more difficult. This is why growth companies often receive capital from venture capital firms or angel investors. This additional capital can be imperative to helping some growth companies survive an economic downturn.

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2022-12-31 07:53 | Report Abuse

What Is a Growth Company?

A growth company is any company whose business generates significant positive cash flows or earnings, which increase at significantly faster rates than the overall economy. A growth company tends to have very profitable reinvestment opportunities for its own retained earnings. Thus, it typically pays little to no dividends to stockholders, opting instead to put most or all of its profits back into its expanding business.

KEY TAKEAWAYS
- A growth company is one in which its business generates positive cash flows or earnings faster than the overall economy.
- Growth companies typically reinvest their earnings back into the company as opposed to paying out dividends to continue spurring growth.
- Growth companies stand in contrast to mature companies, those that tend to report stable earnings with little to no growth.
- Mature companies typically have an easier time obtaining financing than growth companies because of their established business and financials.
- Investors in growth companies are not focused on dividend income but rather on the appreciation of the company's share price.

In today's economy, which sector is characterized as having many growth companies?

General

2022-12-31 07:49 | Report Abuse

Four principles for successful, long-term investing:

1. Invest regularly, regardless of market conditions;
2. Reinvest all earnings;
3. Invest in growth companies and
4. Diversify to reduce risk.


The heart of this investment approach to investing is the third principle — investing in growth companies.

General

2022-12-30 23:09 | Report Abuse

KLSE CI
Market valuation
22.12.2022

PE ratio 16.08
DY 4.22%
P/BV 1.49
FBM KLCI 1,468.35

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2022-12-30 20:53 | Report Abuse

ICIVF
i Capital International Value Fund invest globally

This Fund started investing in July 2009. Its performance in AUD since then is shown below in Table 2, together with the benchmarks MSCI ACWI Index and ASX200.

Table 2 : 1 Jul 2009 to 31 October 2022

Total Return % Change
Currency 01-Jul-2009 31-October-2022
ICIVF A$ 1.0000 1.0425 4.25
MSCI ACWI A$ 306.1537 916.9951 199.52
ASX200 A$ 3,874.00 6863.5000 77.17


After 13 years of investing, ICIVF returned a positive 4.25%.
OTOH, MSCI ACWI and ASX200 returned 199.52% and 77.17% respectively.
Returns are based on A$ (Australian dollar).

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2022-12-30 16:39 | Report Abuse

Philip, Thanks for sharing your lifetime journey in work and investing. You were down and remarkably you were able to bounce back. That is sheer herculean task and definitely very impressive. Fail you may, but do not lose hope. Pick up again and achieve again. Love the picture of the younger looking Robert Kuok. He is truly a remarkable person and businessman.

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2022-12-30 08:23 | Report Abuse

Just wondering how he financed his 128 million shares (assuming averaging RM 1 per share = RM 128 m) purchased since August 2020. Maybe he has deep pockets or a friendly banker.

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2022-12-30 08:17 | Report Abuse

Changes in Director's Interest (Section 219 of CA 2016)
TSH RESOURCES BERHAD

Name TAN AIK PEN
Descriptions(Class) Ordinary shares


Direct (units) 336,799,317
Direct (%) 24.403
Date of notice 29/12/2022

Direct (units) 208,619,317
Direct (%) 15.115
Date of notice 28/08/2020

Direct (units) 10,830,068
Direct (%) 10.97
Date of notice 11/10/2004


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2022-12-30 08:15 | Report Abuse

From the latest Annual Report

Size of Shareholdings Shareholders % No. of shares held %
1 - 99 355 4.03 12,740 Negligible
100 - 1,000 1,043 11.83 601,719 0.04
1,001 - 10,000 4,450 50.47 22,101,778 1.60
10,001 - 100,000 2,481 28.14 78,848,383 5.71
100,001 - 69,008,674* 486 5.51 1,065,267,074 77.18
69,008,675 and above** 2 0.02 213,341,815 15.47
Total 8,817 100.00 1,380,173,509 100.00

486+2 = 488 people hold 92.65% of TSH shares
8817 - 488 = 8329 people hold 7.35% or 101,551,880 of TSH shares

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2022-12-30 08:14 | Report Abuse

From Aug 2020 to today, TAN AIK PEN has increased his shareholdings by 128,180,000 shares , taking his % holding from 15.115% to 24.402%.

Remarkably, the share price of this counter has dropped or remains flat and not increased. There are as many willing sellers to meet TAN AIK PEN's incessant buying of this share. ;-)

I bet these sellers are not among those who hold less than 100,000 shares; the group that are shouting in this forum with the hero of Netx, calvintan.

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2022-12-29 23:23 | Report Abuse

An analyst put the fair price of TSH lower than my RM 1.00 per share. Interesting to note this. When I gave the fair value at RM 1.00, you can notice I was generous. However, I protected the downside by demanding a huge margin of safety.

Fair price RM 1.00
Buy at 50 sen or 70 sen
Sell at 90 sen (Reason, margin of safety eroded at that price)

Of course, I can be absolutely wrong. However, based on conservative assumptions.

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2022-12-29 23:20 | Report Abuse

Everyday buying 500,000 shares. Strange way of buying shares. Is he buying because it is undervalued? Is he buying to fulfill an obligation?

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2022-12-29 22:28 | Report Abuse

>>>
SEE_Research

https://www.eaglevisioninvest.com/when-palm-oil-was-at-its-peak-of-rm4000-it-created-many-billionaires-now-palm-oil-is-above-rm6000-per-ton-will-we-see-more-billionaires-calvin-tan/


THE INVESTMENT APPROACH OF CALVIN TAN
When Palm OIl was At Its Peak of Rm4,000 It created Many Billionaires now Palm oil is above Rm6,000 per ton will we see more Billionaires? Calvin Tan

calvintaneng
Publish date:

Thu, 07 Apr 2022, 10:33 PM

As clear as certainty with crystal clear as the SUPER BULL RUN OF PLANTATION STOCKS IN KLSE ;
ONCE IN A CENTURY

Meanwhile we happily follow them buy by all in
pile it up and load it up

Tsh now Rm1.72 / 8 April 2022

Short term target is Rm2.00
(very soon will reach there)

Learn to count with your dirty fingers __ very soon from
8 April 2022 to 29 December 2022 ___ how many days 10 days , 100 days , 163 days
It is illiot you calvintaneng is 265 days of * very soon *
You are real k on artist your
* very soon * using on your k on arithmetic.


By year end we expect TSH to Reach Rm3.00 to Rm4.00
(historic high before bonus)

TSH to reach Blue Chip Status of over Rm10.00

TSH Can Reach the Astounding Figure of Rm150 per share
(that means it will have overtaken Nestle) .

?????????????????????????????????????

>>>>

Did the hero of Netx, calvintan wrote the above about TSH?
If true, he is beyond speculating; perhaps, gambling with his future!

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2022-12-29 20:30 | Report Abuse

For 2 years, from 2019 to 2021, the hero of Netx, hyped and promoted Netx. Now it is obvious, at least to me and perhaps many others, he was a speculator and liar. The game he championed was more akin to selling higher to the next suckers, the Greater Fool game. He boasted to all his absolute conviction in this stock and declared selling 7 or 8 houses and dumping all these into this single stock.

He puffed and he huffed. To cut the story short, the hero of Next , calvintan blew his houses to shattered pieces. The hero of Netx, calvintan led those who shared his irrational exuberance to Holland. The manipulators of Netx ate the hero of Netx, calvintan and his followers, reducing them from heroes to zeroes.

Now the hero of Netx, calvintan puzzled why this stock Netx was the focus in many posts and his other stocks. The hero of Netx, calvintan forgets selectively and often.

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2022-12-29 18:04 | Report Abuse

HEIM
2022 Dividends RM 1.06

HEIM distributes about RM 1.00 dividend yearly and consistently over the years.
How do you value HEIM?

If I were to give the same valuation of TSH (I gave above) to HEIM, it should be valued at RM 33.30. However, HEIM is today priced at RM 25.38.

Therefore, I can conclude that investing in HEIM is better than investing in TSH, as it is more undervalued compared to TSH.

More importantly, the business of HEIM is great. It is better to own a great company at fair price than to own a fair company at a great price. Comparing TSH and HEIM, TSH is neither a great company nor at a great price today.

I hope the hero of NETX, calvintan, understands my reasoning. :-)

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2022-12-29 16:46 | Report Abuse

>>>>
Posted by calvintaneng > Dec 29, 2022 4:42 PM | Report Abuse

Yes better 3iii go away

We have

THE INTELLIGENT INVESTOR

BEN GRAHAM SAID BUY WITH A 30% DISCOUNT TO NTA

THE NTA OF TSH IS RM1.60

A DISCOUNT OF 30% MEANS RM1.12

ANYTHING BELOW BEN GRAHAM THINKS SAFE
>>>>


I enjoy the hero of Netx, calvintan's reasoning. By the same reasoning, Parkson should be extremely value. Look at its NTA and look at its market price. :-)

I know the hero of Netx, calvintan knows too. Use the discount to NTA if you are liquidating this company. It is better for now, to use the valuation method for an ongoing business. How much return you expect to get from this business investment on an annual basis?

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2022-12-29 16:24 | Report Abuse

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How much dividend will Tsh be paying in year 2023?

for that we see Tsh paid 3 sen dividend in Feb 2022 when it's borrowings still very high about Rm1 Billions

the sale of Sabah lands(Rm249 millions) & Bulugan lands (Rm731.09 millions) bring in Rm980 million cash

and by now in principle Tsh is debt free with saving on bank interest payment about 3.6 sen

if Tsh can pay 3 sen like Feb 2022 plus the saving of bank interest of 3.6 sen as added dividend payout the dividend could easily go up to 6.6 sen
>>>>


The non-operating income is non-recurring. At most, you get a one-off special dividend. I know the hero of Netx, calvintan is aware of this too.

Thus, should you get a special dividend which is non-recurring, do not use this in your calculation of your intrinsic value. The hero of Netx, calvintan knows this too.

Anyway, to make it easy to understand (for me):

1. Fair value of TSH is RM 1.00 per share.
2. For this, I hope to get a return of 3 sen per share yearly.
3. On a good year, maybe a special dividend too, but this is non-recurring.
4. But, would you buy at $1.00 per share today? Of course, not.

Buy with a margin of safety.
Buy below 70 sen or 50 sen/share.

When do you sell?
Maybe when this margin of safety is no longer enough for your comfort. Perhaps, at 90 sen per share.

Thus, TSH is not a buy for me at the moment. But I think I won't be in this stock as there are other bargains available with better reward:risk profile.

Good luck. Valuation is based on an individual's assumptions. Therefore, for each, their own valuation. My valuation maybe absolutely wrong but you will have to make up your own assessment and decision.

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2022-12-29 13:09 | Report Abuse

How do I value TSH?

If I were to invest into TSH today, how much return can I expect yearly from TSH?
Being a value investor, I would be conservative in my assumptions.
I assume it will be able to sustain the 3 sen dividend per share. The special dividends on top of this will be bonus and cannot be predicted to recur yearly.
Also, what happened to all its retained earnings? Has each RM1/year of retained earnings translate into a RM1/year rise in its market capitalization. In TSH, this has not been the case.

Thus, my back of envelope fair value for TSH is Rm 1.00 per share.
Since as a value investor, I would like to buy with a margin of safety, should I even buy this stock, it has to be below 70 sen per share (30% MOS) or 50 sen per share (50% MOS).

Probably, will look for bargains elsewhere. TQ

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2022-12-29 08:28 | Report Abuse

Kim Loong is a much better managed plantation business than TSH.

Kim Loong is a pure plantation stock, with plantations and oil palm mills. Very focused in its business. The owners have been excellent stewards of the shareholders' funds. Low key owners. Very strong balance sheet. Oil palm mills revenues are now higher than those from its plantations.

Its share price has risen more over the long-term, consistently and predictably compared with the share price of TSH. Also, its share price appreciation has beaten TSH at every period, except the recent 3 months.

Those who own plantations managed efficiently, will recognise the business of Kim Loong mirrors those of their own plantation returns.

When should you buy plantation stocks? At a time of extreme pessimism.
[This is not a recommendation. Just sharing. You are likely to lose due to volatility of share prices of stocks. However, those who own Kim Loong who are short term focus will be disappointed. Its business grows steadily and surely and slowly, by the 5th year, you can expect to see positive returns on your initial investment.]

TSH, JTiasa and FGV are all trading at PEs of 3 or 4. Are these low PEs indicating they are undervalued? Why are they so "CHEAP"? Are they truly cheap? Please study the PE fluctuations of cyclical stocks to understand more.

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2022-12-29 08:07 | Report Abuse

Company TSH JTIASA
Mkt cap 1.49B 618.31M
Employees 7,216 2,881
P/E ratio 3.13 4.27
Div yield 7.41% 4.41%

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2022-12-29 07:59 | Report Abuse


Company TSH (KLSE) FGV (KLSE)
Mkt cap 1.49B 4.89B
Employees 7,216 15,577
P/E ratio 3.13 3.37
Div yield 7.41% 5.97%

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2022-12-29 07:55 | Report Abuse


TSH Resources Berhad TSH (KLSE) versus Kim Loong Resources Bhd KMLOONG (KLSE)

Company TSH KMLOONG
Mkt cap 1.49B 1.78B
Employees 7,216 1,392
P/E ratio 3.13 11.03
Div yield 7.41% 5.43%

General

2022-12-29 07:45 | Report Abuse

Markets exist because of differences of opinion among investors. If securities could be valued precisely, there would be many fewer differences of opinion; market prices would fluctuate less frequently, and trading activity would diminish.

To fundamentally oriented investors, the value of a security to the *buyer must be greater than the price paid, and the value to the *seller must be less, or no transaction would take place.

The discrepancy between the buyer’s and the seller’s perceptions of value can result from such factors as
- differences in assumptions regarding the *future,
- different intended *uses for the asset, and
- differences in the *discount rates applied.

Every asset being bought and sold thus has a possible range of values bounded by the value to the buyer and the value to the seller; the actual transaction price will be somewhere in between.

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2022-12-29 06:29 | Report Abuse

Forward looking statement on plantations and millings of CPO

With impact arising from the drought weather conditions in South America and Canada in early of the year, Russia/Ukraine conflict since February 2022 as well as the export restriction policy of Indonesia, the disruption of supply of many commodities has caused surge in prices of commodities as well as vegetable oils have surged to a very high level. Under such volatile market conditions, CPO price has also jumped to an unprecedented level above RM8,000 per MT in early March 2022.

However, following the change in Indonesia’s policy to boost its CPO export, the average CPO price for July 2022 plunged sharply to RM4,100 per MT, recording a drop of more than RM2,000 per MT as compared to the preceding month, and this is the biggest drop in monthly average CPO price in history. CPO price has further plunged sharply to around RM3,300 per MT level in September 2022 before a steady recovery to the current level at around RM4,000 per MT.

The movement of CPO price has become highly unpredictable, hence the Group will continue to monitor the impact of volatile pricing on the performance of the Group.

Although the current high production season which might cause pressure on CPO price, the management expects the average CPO price for the remaining period of the financial year 2023 could remain around RM4,000 per MT and is of the view that the Group could still benefit from the current level of CPO price especially the plantation operations.

Having said that, the Group has also faced challenges such as significant surge in cost of fertiliser likely caused by high international shipping costs as well as the belligerence between Russia and Ukraine, and higher labour costs as a result of shortage of foreign workers and the revised minimum wages effective from May 2022.

Based on the above, we expect the Group to perform well and could achieve a record high revenue and profit for the financial year 2023.

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2022-12-28 10:36 | Report Abuse

Addendum

As an investor, it is good to be diligent and alert. In any case, I am only highlighting this, as it is unlikely the promoter the hero of Netx, calvintan will do so as honestly as 3iii . :-)

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2022-12-28 10:32 | Report Abuse

>>>
calvintaneng

Ok i want to enlighten all about

NON OPERATING INCOME

Dinosaur 3iii said Tsh latest qtr profit came from asset disposal which is a non operating income

What is the difference between operating and non operating income?

In other words

What is passive and active income

And also total overall income

2 hours ago
>>>>

The hero of Netx, calvintan has enlightened us.
So much for his spinning.

The profit for this quarter would have been negative if the income from the disposal of its asset (non-operating income) was removed.

When we look at the operating business of this company, surely an operating loss of its core business should raise a red flag. At least try to understand why this was the case, rather than spinning like the hero of Netx fame.

I opine that the huge SGA expenses for the latest quarter which were so much higher than the gross profit declared was deliberate. This expenses included a lot of impairment charges which were put into this latest quarter account. For those unaware, just looking at the net profit may not realise this. Manipulative accounting is common, may not be illegal.

As an investor, it is good to be diligent and alert. In any case, I am only highlighting this, as it is unlikely the promoter the hero of Netx, calvintan will do so. :-)

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2022-12-27 23:12 | Report Abuse

TSH

Fiscal year is January-December. All values MYR Thousands.
Quarter 30-Sep-2022 30-Jun-2022
Sales/Revenue 262,652.0 424,413.0
Cost of Goods Sold (COGS) incl. D&A 168,028.0 258,775.0
Gross Income 94,624.0 165,638.0
SG&A Expense 121,439.0 50,967.0
Non Operating Income/Expense 301,367.0 15,987.0
Pretax Income 283,349.0 60,994.0


Questions:

1. Why did the revenue drop so much this latest quarter?
2. Why did the SGA expenses rise so much this latest quarter, despite a lower revenue?
3. The Gross Profit was less than the SGA in the latest quarter, therefore, the company reported a loss in its business operations for this period.
4. The big profit reported was due to a one-off non-recurrent non-operating income.
5. Did the company take the opportunity to clean up its books in this quarter, by taking all the charges in this quarter, thereby the markedly increased SGA expenses.

Of course, I may be absolutely wrong! But worth inspecting into these figures, nonetheless.

General

2022-12-27 23:10 | Report Abuse

TSH

Fiscal year is January-December. All values MYR Thousands.
Quarter 30-Sep-2022 30-Jun-2022
Sales/Revenue 262,652.0 424,413.0
Cost of Goods Sold (COGS) incl. D&A 168,028.0 258,775.0
Gross Income 94,624.0 165,638.0
SG&A Expense 121,439.0 50,967.0
Non Operating Income/Expense 301,367.0 15,987.0
Pretax Income 283,349.0 60,994.0


Questions:

1. Why did the revenue drop so much this latest quarter?
2. Why did the SGA expenses rise so much this latest quarter, despite a lower revenue?
3. The Gross Profit was less than the SGA in the latest quarter, therefore, the company reported a loss in its business operations for this period.
4. The big profit reported was due to a one-off non-recurrent non-operating income.
5. Did the company take the opportunity to clean up its books in this quarter, by taking all the charges in this quarter, thereby the markedly increased SGA expenses.

Of course, I may be absolutely wrong! But worth inspecting into these figures, nonetheless.

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2022-12-27 22:43 | Report Abuse


Fiscal year is January-December. All values MYR Thousands.
Quarter 30-Sep-2022 30-Jun-2022
Sales/Revenue 262,652.0 424,413.0
Cost of Goods Sold (COGS) incl. D&A 168,028.0 258,775.0
Gross Income 94,624.0 165,638.0
SG&A Expense 121,439.0 50,967.0
Non Operating Income/Expense 301,367.0 15,987.0
Pretax Income 283,349.0 60,994.0


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2022-12-27 22:30 | Report Abuse

Book Value

What something cost in the past is not necessarily a good measure of its value today. Book value is the historical accounting of shareholders’ equity, the residual after liabilities are subtracted from assets.

Sometimes historical book value (carrying value) provides an accurate measure of current value, but often it is way off the mark.

Current assets, such as receivables and inventories, for example, are usually worth close to carrying value, although certain types of inventory are subject to rapid obsolescence.

Plant and equipment, however, may be outmoded or obsolete and therefore worth considerably less than carrying value. Alternatively, a company with fully depreciated plant and equipment or a history of write-offs may have carrying value considerably below real economic value.

Inflation, technological change, and regulation, among other factors, can affect the value of assets in ways that historical cost accounting cannot capture.

- Real estate purchased decades ago, for example, and carried on a company’s books at historical cost may be worth considerably more.

- The cost of building a new oil refinery today may be made prohibitively expensive by environmental legislation, endowing older facilities with a scarcity value.

- Aging integrated steel facilities, by contrast, may be technologically outmoded compared with newly built mini mills. As a result, their book value may be significantly overstated.

Reported book value can also be affected by management actions. Write-offs of money-losing operations are somewhat arbitrary yet can have a large impact on reported book value.

Share issuance and repurchases can also affect book value. Many companies in the 1980s, for example, performed *recapitalizations, whereby money was borrowed and distributed to shareholders as an extraordinary dividend. This served to greatly reduce the book value of these companies, sometimes below zero.

Even the choice of accounting method for mergers – purchase or pooling of interests – can affect reported book value.

To be useful, an analytical tool must be consistent in its valuations. Yet, as a result of accounting rules and discretionary management actions, two companies with identical tangible assets and liabilities could have very different reported book values. This renders book value not terribly useful as a valuation yardstick.

As with earnings, book value provides limited information to investors and should only be considered as one component of a more thorough and complete analysis.

General

2022-12-27 22:19 | Report Abuse

Earnings and Earnings Growth

Both earnings and book value have a place in securities analysis but must be used with caution and as part of a more comprehensive valuation effort.

Earnings per share has historically been the valuation yardstick most commonly used by investors. Unfortunately, as we shall see, it is an imprecise measure, subject to *manipulation and accounting vagaries. It does not attempt to measure the cash generated or used by a business. And as with any prediction of the future, earnings are nearly impossible to forecast.

Corporate managements are generally aware that many investors focus on growth in reported earnings, and a number of them gently massage reported earnings to create a consistent upward trend. A few particularly unscrupulous managements play accounting games to turn deteriorating results into improving ones, losses into profits, and small profits into large ones.

Even without manipulation, analysis of reported earnings can mislead investors as to the real profitability of a business. Generally accepted accounting practices (GAAP) may require
actions that do not reflect business reality.

- By way of example, amortization of goodwill, a *noncash charge* required under GAAP, can artificially depress reported earnings; an analysis of cash flow would better capture the true economics of a business.

- By contrast, *nonrecurring gains* can boost earnings to unsustainable levels, and should be ignored by investors.

Most important, whether investors use earnings or cash flow in their valuation analysis, it is important to remember that the numbers are not an end in themselves. Rather they are a means to understanding what is really happening in a company.


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2022-12-27 22:02 | Report Abuse

Discussion of dividend yield.

Although at one time a measure of a business’s prosperity, it has become a relic: stocks SHOULD SIMPLY *NOT* be bought on the basis of their dividend yield.

Too often struggling companies sport high dividend yields, not because the dividends have been increased, but because the share prices have fallen. Fearing that the stock price will drop further if the dividend is cut, managements maintain the payout, weakening the company even more. Investors buying such stocks for their ostensibly high yields may not be receiving good value.

On the contrary, they may be the victims of a pathetic manipulation. The high dividend paid by such companies is not a return on invested capital but rather a return of capital that represents the liquidation of the underlying business.

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2022-12-27 21:47 | Report Abuse

calvin is obviously a very honest guy. Reading his post, we would have the feeling that he bought UZMA at the lowest lowest and sold at the highest price. Of course, we all know this was not possible. He attributed his cleverness in making a profit from UZMA; and yes, he perhaps indeed did. But, then I would say he was lucky. He was speculating, he did not even know what was the intrinsic value of UZMA when he was speculating in this stock. This I was certain.

In any case, he sold UZMA and bought into Netx which he had a lot of confidence in.
We knew the outcome of this in 2021. calvin the hero of Net.

NETX (0020) - THE MOST MISUNDERSTOOD DIGITAL STOCK OF HIDDEN VALUE, Calvin Tan Research
calvintaneng
Publish date: Mon, 07 Oct 2019, 12:12 AM
https://klse.i3investor.com/web/blog/detail/www.eaglevisioninvest.com/228509

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Posted by calvintaneng > 2019-10-08 12:33 | Report Abuse

Wahaha!!

While I having lunch someone whataspp to say Uzma touched Rm1.00 today!!

All naysayers make no money

Believers are now very very happy

Clap!
Clap!!
Clap!!!

Uzma 1st target price of 80 sen cleared

Uzma 2nd target price of Rm1.00 now reached

Next Target price of Rm1.20 is final

Hmmm?

Only less than 20% more from Rm1.00 to Rm1.20 now

Not too interesting

So

So Calvin switch to

Redtone....can up 100%
Opcom.....can up 200%
Netx.........can up ????

Okok don't say too much as Calvin and buddies are now accumulating

Many happy returns

Calvin say BIG Big Thank You to all supporters of Uzma

Uzma

Utterly
Zealous
Mastering
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Regards
Calvin Tan Research
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2022-12-27 16:39 | Report Abuse

All I know is calvin is hero of Netx.
No idea of his other ventures.

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calvintaneng

Super bodoh dinosaur missed Uzma at 55 sen & condemned it

Calvin the lion heart bought Uzma at bottom 55 sen (Calvin also bought TSH Below Rm1.00

THEN?

THEN UZMA JUMPED 100% TO RM1.10

AT RM1.10 CALVIN ISSUED SELL CALL

See

https://www.eaglevisioninvest.com/sell-uzma-sell-carimin-buy-opcom-redtone-netx-others/

6 minutes ago
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2022-12-27 16:20 | Report Abuse

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Posted by kl_guy > 30 minutes ago | Report Abuse

tsh is long term investment , 3-5 years hold up. if want to make over night gain...goto glove counter.
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I have never seen calvin tan, the hero of Netx, promoting any stock with long term time horizon of 5 years. Perhaps, I was wrong. ;-)

But many in Netx became long term investors after its price dropped by >70% from the time their calvin, hero of Netx promoted it after his phone call to Penelope. :-)

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2022-12-27 15:30 | Report Abuse

calvin

calvin is more a speculator than an investor. This was obvious in his participation in Netx from 2019 to 2021.

Surprisingly and sadly, he doesn't seem to learn from his mistakes. He continues to repeat the same, hoping to get fantastic returns.

His top-down approach is just hype. In Netx, he started with having a phone-call to a lady Penelope in Netx and he started creating a story from then. It is now obvious that calvin's promotion on Netx was based on his own inventions, hopefully you know what this meant.

His top-down approach on oil palm stocks based on cyclical CPO is similarly interesting. When I first looked at TSH due to the noises of calvin, I noted its price was RM 1.70. Today, it is about RM 1.03.

What is his intrinsic value for TSH?
How undervalued is TSH, according to calvin?
What is the catalyst that will propel its price towards its intrinsic value?

As for the intrinsic value, how does calvin arrive at his value?

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2022-12-26 22:33 | Report Abuse

CHOOSING THE RIGHT BROKER

Use a Broker to Whom You Are Important

Whether buying or selling, there are distinct advantages to finding and doing business with long-term-oriented stockbrokers who recognize that it is in their interest to build and maintain mutually beneficial relationships with clients. If customers feel that their best interests are being served and that brokerage commissions are a secondary consideration,
long-term relationships are likely to ensue. By contrast, brokers who charge exorbitant commissions or routinely recommend trades designed more to generate commissions than
investment profits will eventually lose customers. The challenge is to find one or more brokers with whom you feel comfortable.

An appropriate broker will possess a balance of experience and desire, a commitment to the investment business, and a willingness to sacrifice immediate commissions for the sake of
long-term relationships. You want a broker with sufficient clout within his or her firm to provide you with access to analysts and traders, one with experience to handle your account
properly and to know when to call you and when not to waste your time.

You don’t want a totally inexperienced broker who is learning at your expense, a complacent broker satisfied with mediocre results, or one so successful that your account is relatively
unimportant. Michael Price and Bill Ruane would have no problem capturing the undivided attention of any broker; they would be very important clients for anyone. Other investors
must work harder to find one or more brokers to whom they will be important clients.

One possibility is to develop a relationship with a fairly young but capable broker to whom
your account is currently very important and one who will gain importance and clout within the firm over time.

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2022-12-26 22:29 | Report Abuse

PORTFOLIO MANAGEMENT AND TRADING

While individual personalities and goals can influence one’s trading and portfolio management techniques to some degree, sound buying and selling strategies, appropriate diversification, and prudent hedging are of importance to all investors.

Of course, good portfolio management and trading are of no use when pursuing an inappropriate investment philosophy; they are of maximum value when employed in conjunction with a value-investment approach.

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2022-12-26 22:24 | Report Abuse

STOP-LOSS ORDERS

Some investors place stop-loss orders to sell securities at specific prices, usually marginally below their cost.

If prices rise, the orders are not executed. If the prices decline a bit, presumably on the way to a steeper fall, the stop-loss orders are executed.

Although this strategy may seem an effective way to limit downside risk, it is, in fact, *crazy.
Instead of taking advantage of market dips to increase one’s holdings, a user of this technique acts as if the market knows the merits of a particular investment better than he or she does.

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2022-12-26 22:21 | Report Abuse

Selling: The Hardest Decision of All

Many investors are able to spot a bargain but have a harder time knowing when to sell. One reason is the difficulty of knowing precisely what an investment is worth.

An investor buys with a range of value in mind at a price that provides a considerable margin of safety. As the market price appreciates, however, that safety margin decreases; the potential return diminishes and the downside risk increases.

Not knowing the exact value of the investment, it is understandable that an investor cannot be as confident in the sell decision as he or she was in the purchase decision.


To deal with the difficulty of knowing when to sell, some investors create rules for selling based on specific price-to-book value or price-to-earnings multiples. Others have rules based
on percentage gain thresholds; once they have made X percent, they sell. Still others set sale price targets at the time of purchase, as if nothing that took place in the interim could influence the decision to sell. *None of these rules makes good sense. *

Indeed, there is only one valid rule for selling: *all investments are for sale at the right price.*

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2022-12-26 22:16 | Report Abuse

If selling still seems difficult for investors who follow a value investment philosophy, I offer the following rhetorical questions:

- If you haven’t bought based upon underlying value, how do you decide when to sell?
- If you are speculating in securities trading above underlying value, when do you take a profit or cut your losses?
- Do you have any guide other than “how they are acting,” which is really no guide at all?

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2022-12-26 22:14 | Report Abuse

Liquidity considerations are also important in the decision to sell.

For many securities the *depth of the market as well as the *quoted price is an important consideration.

You cannot sell, after all, in the absence of a willing buyer; the likely presence of a buyer must therefore be a factor in the decision to sell.

As the president of a small firm specializing in trading illiquid over the-counter (pink-sheet) stocks once told me: “You have to feed the birdies when they are hungry."

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2022-12-26 22:09 | Report Abuse

Decisions to sell, like decisions to buy, must be based upon underlying *business value*. Exactly *when to sell – or buy* – depends on the *alternative opportunities* that are available.

Should you hold for partial or complete value realization, for example?

- It would be *foolish to hold out for an extra fraction of a point of gain in a stock selling *just below underlying value* when the market offers *many bargains*.

- By contrast, you would not want to sell a stock at a gain (and pay taxes on it) if it were still *significantly undervalued* and if there were *no better bargains available*.

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2022-12-25 16:44 | Report Abuse

Although specific investments have a beginning and an end, portfolio management goes on forever.

An investor's portfolio management responsibilities include maintaining appropriate diversification, making hedging decisions, and managing portfolio cash flow and liquidity.

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2022-12-25 16:41 | Report Abuse

Once you choose to venture beyond U.S. Treasury bills, whatever you do with your money carries some risk. Don't think you can avoid making a choice; inertia is also a decision.

It took a long time to accumulate whatever wealth you have; your financial wellbeing is definitely not something to trifle with. For this reason, I recommend that you adopt a value-investment philosophy and either find an investment professional with a record of value-investment success or commit the requisite time and attention to investing on your own.

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2022-12-25 16:25 | Report Abuse

OPPORTUNITY COST

The trick of successful investors is to sell when they want to, not when they have to.

Investors who may need to sell should not own marketable securities other than U.S. Treasury bills. If what you hold is illiquid or unmarketable, the opportunity cost increases further.

The most important determinant of whether investors will incur opportunity cost is whether or not part of their portfolios is held in *cash. *

Maintaining moderate cash balances or owning securities that periodically throw off appreciable cash is likely to reduce the number of foregone opportunities.

Another way to limit opportunity cost is through *hedging.* A hedge is an investment that is expected to move in a direction opposite to that of another holding so as to cushion any price decline. If the hedge becomes valuable, it can be sold, providing funds to take advantage of newly created opportunities.