a chart talking without reminder for the cut loss , support , resistance and trend reversal is just no different as a blind leading a blind . a very general statement that always lead one to Holland

yes , talking about chart I also have a few words to share . chart is historical records , history can not be destroyed but can be created . so is the chart . it can drawn going now today . it can also can be drawn going up tomorrow . sorry to say , most of the loser in shares trading are those who take the chart as the BIBLE of their trade

Don't worry what is the price tomorrow , there is always a good day for you tosay bye-bye to you frustration and disappointment

what is the moral of the story ?

I wish to share some honest advice , if you can't wait , can't afford to see paper loss or can't afford to lose you life saving , then it is better to SELL and start your life anew
if you are not new to the market , you know price never move in a straight line ; with every downtrend comes a rebound, and with every uptrend, there's a correction. SELL at the rebound , and free yourself from all unnecessary frustrations that even seasoned investors like me also find it difficult or challenging to endure.

I do not want you to misunderstand I am promoting Jaks . I just follow my own strategy stictly , if not I don't find myself a good day .

final say : let things develop naturally

Do not over thought.... I did not ask you to buy , neither to sell, I just a simple man conduct a moral lesson here and you have the choice to skip if you do not like .

why act as a judge before the market makes the last call . all are our own imagination that mislead ourselves and others

let things develop naturally is the best

why invite your wife into the picture ? isn't Mikecyc alone can not satisfy you ?

Posted by Huangbk72 > 3 minutes ago | Report Abuse

You are wrong..

I never touch anyone except my wife...

This has always been about Jaks.
......................................................................................................................................... hahaha.. this reply make you look very smart grammatically

what is the moral of the story ?
Harmony is more precious than perfection
everyone seek their own happiness and live their way that bring the minimum stress
I can't help you and you can't help me
but I can refrain from adding your distress and you can refrain changing me to live your way

this is call : kerana tak buat jahat itu sudah CUKUP baik

Please do not touch me if your target is Mikecyc

nobody can know the price will go or down in the long run , market doesn't belong to our father , market is somethimes crazy , market is subjected to manipulation , this is real.
if not God , no one can tell with 100% certainty .
but you said you can!!!! you want to save the world ....... you know Jaks going to go bankrupt soon ...... all of us must gang up to prove mkikecyc wrong ...... what sort of logical, sensible thinking is this

you just can not see people live their way happily if not follow your way

Posted by Huangbk72 > 4 minutes ago | Report Abuse

Aseng

You are stepping out of line.. Did I claim I am god?

U better go and think why you are in this spot instead of lashing out to others.

You are acting like Miketikus ................................................................................................ may be you do not have self consciousness . read your own comment carefully , isn't you talk like a god ?

if not , do not touch me . you go your way hentam Mikecyc , I go my way to conduct the moral lesson here

I am very satisfied and happy with my investment mode , why should I change ? any guarantee you can bring me success and the day i want to live if you force me to follow your God 's call

you do not like Mikecyc is your prerogative, I have obligation to join team with you to prove him wrong .

Posted by Huangbk72 > 26 seconds ago | Report Abuse

Your moral lesson is perverted

If I know Jaks stock price will be down, do i keep quiet and allow people like Miketikus to blindly lead others ........................................................................................... how can I follow one who claim himself a god . Market belong to your father ? if you can predict the stock price , the make a recommendation here , I follow your call and all the profit go to charity , I promise

before we see money we must see happiness first mah.....
if not , what the hell is your investment
for win but everyday live in the tention ?

I am happy with the PB = 0.26 , you force me to switch to one PB = 2.6 , can I feel happy everyday in the market with a lot of hopes

can you guarantee my successs? if not, what are you trying to prove

your happiness doesn't mean my happiness
you are not me and I am not you
the fact is not too difiicult to understand

if i follow your advice , can you guarantee me I can certainly see the big money I want , not a cent less ?
if i follow your advice , can you guarantee me everyday I will live stress free ?

you doesn't seem to have learnt from my moral lesson

make yourself fell comfortable in the market . before you make money , you must live everyday with minimun strees or making money or losing money

Posted by Huangbk72 > 3 minutes ago | Report Abuse

Aseng.

What is your average holding cost in Jaks? .................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................. every year I start anew . history is not something I can create . but to survive in the market I must not be defeated by my own distress

do not forget , market is nobody's father , market can be crazy sometimes , market is subjected to manipulation , what are the right or the wrong ? why we must prove others is wrong ??????

Posted by xiaoeh > 3 minutes ago | Report Abuse

Dear Aseng
just wanted to know what u think about different opinion in stock forum discussion?
1) different opinion = stop people making money?
2) different opinion = provide different angle to see things from different perspective? ............................................................................................................................................... you answer is as good as your question . what you need is a confirmation . both 1 & 2 are correct . BUT if you keep on FORCING others to accept anything that you believe must be right is WRONG . You are unconsciously trying to do a job that you have no obligation to do and will shoulder the consequence of the outcome later

so, do not need to cry father and cry mother here to buy or not to buy. until Aseng can not conduct his moral lesson . i am unpopular because I never teach you to chase money but my moral lessons do help you to make a wise decision. but the market still may not respond in the way guided by our common sensense

in a more pleasing manner may be we can put it this way , if others are destined to lose money here , you have no obligation to save him , unless you are willing to shoulder his bad lucks or karma

so is the saying , kalau tak boleh buat baik , jangan buat jahat . kerena tak buat jahat it sendiri sudah cukup baik. literally it means if you are convinced you can't make money here, then do not stop others to do it their way . it is not your job to do so . it is your distress that transform into an action that you yourself do not know what are you doing

I don't feel comfortable to see others not following my route of hopelessness

how do I know I have no lucks here ?

but luck is very important. If you are not deserved to win big here , then there is no way to overcome your own distress to see the success .

Big money belong to those who can wait , not to those who must see the big profit tomorrow . market doesn't belong to you father who need not be too generous to fulfil your every wish

what is the moral of the story ?

shares trading is a rich man game , if you have holding power , the you lower probability to lose . if NOT, most of the time cut loss is your only choice . Big money is made in the waiting , NOT cut loss when the reasons of your investment is still intact .

can YTL power the next ? nobody knows

when everybody predict it must be good , then avoid it . Hengyuan is a good example

what is the moral of the story ?

PB is the most reliable valuation for a loss making company or a company with unpredictable income

what is PB ? price/NTA = 0.26 . that you pay 0.26 to buy a share that worth 0.67

a fact that we shouldn't ignore when we promote or advise people to sell at current price : PB =0.26 ,

may be 1 question that we can ask the management for clarification

why the power plant shares the profit of 131M but receive dividend 27M ? any Vietnamese regulation forbid the distribution of dividend ? JHDP just a holding company , no necessity to keep all the profit without declaring a better dividend . is it the policy of Vietnam or china

0.19 is the rock bottom . it may break 0.19 but will come back quickly again . TA man called it a strong support . no TA man will not disagree , buy at strong support is wise move

why people buy Jaks and lose money ?
1. thet are not willing make money slowly
2. they can not afford to see other make money and they don't
3. they believe future earning calcualtion is real and realiable
4. they believe the snake-oil-sifu more than their own father
5. they do not believe lucks is more improtant than fact and data

why BUY Jaks ?
1. company did not lose money . company make solid money every quarter
2. company business direction is right
3. you will pay a high risk to cut loss to buy YTL-power than to buy Jaks

why should I wait for QR when I am convinced that it can not be worse or better than anyone who try to play snake-oil-sifu