qqq3333

Mao, the man who cause untold suffering to Chinese is a hero? wow.

@Tobby

"However, without CCP, will China be better!"

No idea, but China was a dominant country in the past, being the largest economy in the world at least twice in history if I'm not wrong. So to say that the CCP is vital China's success, I think would be discounting the ability of the Chinese in building a great country without the use of oppression.

I believe Taiwan and Hong Kong is a testatement to what the Chinese can do when they're given more civil liberties. In the end, government that interferes too much in not good. Besides, the only reason China has managed to grow this much is because Deng Xioaping gave Chinese more freedom.

@qqq3333

"since 1949, China has done nothing wrong to be ashamed of"

Invaded Vietnam, Korean war, killed millions of Chinese during the great leap forwards and the cultural revolution; heck, they even helped the US attack India.

@sslee

Aya, so many basic things you got wrong

1. Read International Court of Justic (ICJ) website, it is just a court that settles disputes between states in accordance with international law. UNCLOS is one of the many international laws.

ICJ is not a law, they're the court; When they settle maritime international dispute, they would read UNCLOS and make judgement based on that.

For example, The ICJ ruling that stated that the UK breached international law by claiming the Chagos Island, WAS BASED ON UNCLOS.


2. Also, UNCLOS stated that when member nations have disputes, they should settle through four channels. One of them being through the ICJ as was used in the case against UK. And another is through an Arbitral Tribunal like the one Philippine brought against China. As a member signatory of UNCLOS, China must respect this. Yet they continue to demonish the 2016 Arbitral Tribunal, despite having agreed to the terms. They have no shame at all.

3. Based on UNCLOS, the UK is deemed to not have control over Chagos islands. Similarly, based on UNCLOS, China's 9-dash-line claim has no legal basis. Don't cherry pick. Just follow what UNCLOS said, UK needs to get out of Chagos; and China needs to respect Malaysia's right over resources in Malaysian EEZ, and stop sending ships to harass Malaysia oil and gas workers.

4. Also, what about China drawing the 9-dash-line claim makes a large portion of the SCS theirs? Anyone can draw line wat. As a signatory of UNCLOS, they should just follow international law on what's their and what's not. Instead, China got greedy and decided to claim waters as fas as off the coast of Sarawak. Madness!

@Tobby

No country is perfect. I dont even hate China, they have a rich history and contributed a lot to the world. I only hate the CCP who destroyed traditional China, who makes chinese hated by Asia because of the bullying and wolf warrior diplomacy, who threatens Taiwanese with a military attack when Taiwan just want to be left alone, who deprives the chinese of civil liberties and shot their own people in the Tiananman Square Massacre.

Qqq3333

I ask you again? You say US should stop giving Ukraine weapons, and instead pressure Kyiv to surrender to Russia.

By that logic, would you then say that the US should have not helped supply weapons to China during WW2, but instead pressure the chinese to surrender and make concession with the Japanese?

Have shame a bit, don't double standard.

@Tobby

I dont mind.

China will be largest in nominal and PPP soon. But GDP per capita still 5 times less than Americans. No hope to catch up.

Taiwan not even recognized as a country by the UN but already considered developed high income country. But China still developing and upper-middle income only. Gdp per capita is only half that of Taiwan. The chinese made a mistake siding with the CCP istead of the KMT.

Qqq3333

I ask you again? You say US should stop giving Ukraine weapons, and instead pressure Kyiv to surrender to Russia.

By that logic, would you then say that the US should have not helped supply weapons to China during WW2, but instead pressure the chinese to surrender and make concession with the Japanese?

Have shame a bit, don't double standard.

You irritated because I point out your double standard?

Here's an idea: don't be double standard lah. Or, go live in China if you like it soo much and dont want to hear facts. Or even sty out of i3investor because the CCP censored this website in China too. Why you watch youtube when CCP said cannot?

@sslee

Even qqq333 is not even denying that US supplied China with weapons. Heck, he even said that the PRC's constitution prohibits chinese media from going against the government and only talk good about China. But he still continue to trust Chinese news media . No shame at all lmao.

@sslee

Aya you wumaos always praise China, but don't even know its WW2 history. If you read more history, you would know the US helped supply China with weapons against the Japanese.

You not in China, so why google also don't know how to use?

qqq333

Don't double standard. You must shame the chinese for making China unlivable by continuing to defend themselves against Japan during WW2. You must say that they should have surrendered to Japan, there will be less chaos. That's your idea of rational decision right?

You must stop damaging other ethnic Chinese name with your blatant double standards.

One of the world problem is China. Big bully sending ships and planes to bully Malaysia into submission. Dictatorship with no proper check and balance.

America has a habit of helping the wrong side? So you're saying the chinese were in the wrong against Japan lah? Wah XD. I don't think your CCP overlord will like that very much.

Qqq3333

Wah, no shame lah your double standard. US can help China against Japan, but cannot help Ukraine from Russia? What logic is that! No shame lah you, bring down other ethnic chinese only.

So it was wrong for the US to help China fight the japanese during WW2? They should have instead pressured China to give in to Japan? If the US did that for sure no war in Asia wan. Just let Japan rape Asia. Less chaos for everyone, right?

So the Chinese during WW2 was also wrong for not making concessions to the Japanese also lah? They should have surrendered and make good relations with Japan?

Wah, you really no shame lying is it?

Inequality? Based on the gini coefficient for income inequality, China's inequality is worst compared to the US. Taiwan far ahead of the PRC in terms equality. Ironic because the PRC constitution says that it is a socialist state XD lmao..

China is both not rich and and unequal, so it will collapse first lab. So obvious.

qqq3333

You failed economics already. Being a large consumer market is an advantage because you have a domestic market to sell your own goods.

And at the moment, China's production still mostly low value. Why do you think the American's GDP per capita is more than 5 times that of China. The key to getting rich is to make cheap (through outsourcing) and sell very very very high, that's what the West/Japan/South Korea are doing. China is still relying on manufacturing cheap, and selling cheap - low margin.

Qqq3333

I ask you again? You say US should stop giving Ukraine weapons, and instead pressure Kyiv to surrender to Russia.

By that logic, would you then say that the US should have not helped supply weapons to China during WW2, but instead pressure the chinese to surrender and make concession with the Japanese?

Have shame a bit, don't double standard.

qqq3333

Me telling lies? You're the one who said Malaysia has worst corruption that China, yet the corruption perception index ranks Malaysia better than China. No shame at all.

You even admit that China news will only talk good about China XD.

@sslee

Claim the island in the SCS? A lot of the island already belong to SEA through international law. A 2016 International Arbitral Tribunal already stated that the 9-dash-line has no legal basis. You wumaos support the PRC's claim againt Malaysia EEZ for what? No shame at all.

@sslee

LOL, you fail history already. WW2 around 1945, you suddenly go to 1895 for wat? During WW2, the chinese were perfectly willing to accept American weapons. No complaints from the them. So why guilt trip the US for giving weapons to the Ukrainians now. Don't bring down the other ethnic Chinese by being openly hypocritical lah.

Qqq3333

I ask you again? You say US should stop giving Ukraine weapons, and instead pressure Kyiv to surrender to Russia.

By that logic, would you then say that the US should have not helped supply weapons to China during WW2, but instead pressure the chinese to surrender and make concession with the Japanese?

Have shame a bit, don't double standard.

You dont care for China because you support the CCP. The most anti-chinese government. They destroyed traditional chinese culture during the cultural revolution. Now chinese are considered rude and unsophisticated because the China chinese lost their culture.

Double again? How to double in 10 if population aging and gdp growth now less than 7%?

Their common prosperity agenda is exactly the kind of thing Deng Xiaoping was against. It's nothing but communist ideology that threatens to harm the real driver of economic growth: the free market and private enterprise. Xi Jinping is bringing China backward with the revival economic policy similar to that used during Mao Zedong era.

When China was weak, we didnt have to worry about all this. Can just do trade with them. Now they big and strong, they choose to bully SEA countries into submission. A weak China is better for the Asia.

Good job by spreading lies? Wah, you really no shame lah.

No need to worry? They shot water jet at poor filipino fisherman, sent fighter planes flying near Malaysian airspace, harassed malaysian oil and gas workers. No need to worry?!? You chinaman or Malaysian?!

Qqq3333

And who said the CCP good at everything? The chinese news media who you yourself said is bias? Lmao, you need to learn to have more shame.

Poverty eradication? Theu were the ones who put Chinese into poverty through the great leap forward. Cant give them credit for fixing a problem they caused.

China is sending planes and ships to bully SEA countries to give away their EEZ to China. Big bully.

Now China is sending planes and ships to bully south east Asian countries. China is a the biggest bully in Asia.

At the moment, it's also giving the Myanmar junta weapons.

Korea war, Vietnam war, it's war with India. Face it, China is also a warring country

qqq3333

By your logic, Japan invasion of China was Japan's problem, not the US. So the US should have left the Chinese to fend for themselves? But the Chinese at the time were happy to get US weapons. So why Ukraine not get US help too? They're allies after all. China was not US ally at the time, yet US still helped them.

qqq3333

Civil war that would have quickly ended? How would you know? China's civil war lasted for more than 20 years. Who caused it? The CCP who rebelled! Not the US.

qqq3333

Despite all the wards you see in the news. Historians has stated that we live in the most peaceful period (i.e. post-WW2) in history. China, Russia, and US are all contributed to this peace. But they also caused all the chaos. China/US invaded Vietnam, fought in the Korean war. Russia/US caused war in the middle east, etc. China causing lots of trouble in south china sea, etc.

qqq3333

China and Russia has a military industrial complex too lmao.

qqq3333

You seem to outdo them pretty well by openly admiting that sending weapons to Ukraine to help them defend themselves is bad, but sending weapon to Chinese during WW2 to help them defend themselves is good. Got shame or not?

It's the Ukrainians who want to fight for their country. They can just give up whenever they want. Is it wrong that they don't? If so, then the Chinese was also wrong to continue to fight for their country when the Japanese invaded.

qqq3333

A political settlement with Japan during WW2 would have already resulted in less blood shed. Yet China didn't make it, but even ask US for weapons.

qqq3333

Sending weapons to China during WW2 also turned China into a wasteland. You saying the US should have just let the Japanese rape and kill the Chinese, and maybe even pressure China to make political settlement with Japan?

@qqq3333

And why the hypocrisy? Sending weapons to Ukraine to help defend them against Russia = bad. But sending weapons to China during WW2 to help Chinese defend themselves from Japan = good. Double standard! Got shame lah a bit.

qqq3333

What is it about you wumaos that keep making comments that just ends up biting you back? XD lmao

qqq3333

By that logic, then the Japanese invasion of China, and the killing and raping of million of Chinese was a good thing because otherwise there wouldn't have been a cause that resulted in the the effect decades later (Deng Xiaoping coming to power and admitting that Mao Zedong policy was a disaster).

qqq3333

America will collapse eventually, but not before the PRC collapse first.

qqq3333

China has done well over, but only the last 40 years after Deng Xiaoping took over. Before that, the CCP caused immense suffering through the cultural revolution and the great leap forward that killed millions of Chinese.

But when it comes to corruption, China is still worst than Malaysia. Living standards, Malaysia also win because Malaysians have better civil liberties than the Chinese. Our GDP per capita is not even that far off from China's XD.

@qqq3333

By that logic, then the US should have pressured China to come to a political settlement with Japanese during WW2 instead of using American hard-earned tax payers money to help China defend itself.

CKS was the president of China (then the RoC) before the rebel CCP took over and cause untold sufferings that killed millions of Chinese during the great leap forward and the cultural revolution.