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2021-10-04 22:12 | Report Abuse
Then what is best to do now ?
1. do not cut loss at the bottom if you still have the holding power and no margin call
2. wait for a good price to sell.
price can go up and also can go down
not necessary to panic sell for no valid reason .
3. Please sell if you are tortured everyday and have no good night sleep
2021-10-04 22:07 | Report Abuse
today we see the bankers are collecting the ticket cheap from the retailers who are less informed and easily misled by common sense talks , like increasing coal price and non performing share price , fund raising for expansion ,short selling , ESOS and mismanagement (as if the SC is blind and deaf)
what will happen when there are less faint hearts holding the tickets and the bankers together with many other well informed investors like Aseng have good enough of the number of shares and the control of the share price ?
the outcome is not difficult to guess .
2021-10-04 22:05 | Report Abuse
yes , if there is no evil , the powerful and ambitious could not achieve their goal .
those sharing misleading information are actually not doing a serious home work like DK.
how can they do a good homework if everyday they spend most of the time quarrel with Aseng here .
2021-10-04 20:32 | Report Abuse
see what are the good things you people have done to a company which will never report a negative income now .
I do not know what is your retribution at the end
but
I know many who are supposed to win are making big losses now .
are you happy ?
have gain any cent?
do you still need to go the church or temple ?
2021-10-04 20:18 | Report Abuse
no lah.... the coal price has very impact on the profit margin if you understand the BOT agreement .
tell you a truth quietly ,
even the plant is ordered by the government to stop operation , the impact on the profit margin is still not significant
that is why the power plant is called the golden goose which lay an golden egg when the agreement is signed .
2021-10-04 18:39 | Report Abuse
tomorrow the sun will still rises from the east and start everything anew . who know you may regret to have not listen to Aseng to buy more at the bottom .
enjoy your good dreams with a a good reason for 2 years already worth all the price you had already paid .
do nothing and wait . big money is made in the waiting with a good reason in the right direction .
good lucks
2021-10-04 18:32 | Report Abuse
Posted by superrr > Oct 4, 2021 6:25 PM | Report Abuse
luckily I cut-lost at 0.50
good decision . shares trading is just a game we make some here and lose some there .
2021-10-04 18:28 | Report Abuse
Posted by investopology > Oct 4, 2021 5:20 PM | Report Abuse
tmr testing new Low. Aseng will come out and tell you buy. When technical rebound he will come out and laugh you. But his average price maybe above 50c LOL
I believe Aseng not so free to do such meaningless thing . how about you do it for him ? since you are free ,nothing to do
2021-10-04 18:21 | Report Abuse
Posted by investopology > Oct 4, 2021 4:38 PM | Report Abuse
Obviously he is proxy lah. Many stock will have a proxy like him if you observe properly. The way he talk is very illogically. Hope you guys dun simply listen. And learnt the lessson after today.
Aseng:
aiyoh..... you are very pandai .... know I am a proxy . don't say so loud har... nanti orang dengar ketawa sampai gigi tak de ....
2021-10-04 18:17 | Report Abuse
Posted by garychee8 > Oct 4, 2021 4:19 PM | Report Abuse
this guy mati mati pertahan jaks..I wonder if he continues to argue once jaks go below 0.40..
Aseng :
whether jaks will go below 40 or 30 not something you can say or i can say . but i can choose to wait 2 years and do nothing
2021-10-04 18:14 | Report Abuse
Posted by investopology > Oct 4, 2021 3:19 PM | Report Abuse
Haha dun believe on this Aseng. He is one of the proxy…. Trying to spread good news about jaks. Better avoid now. Alrrady broken 46c soon 41c(52 week Low)
don't Aseng ? believe investopogy ? what is his contribution ? shouting like a pasar malam man only
2021-10-04 18:01 | Report Abuse
it is normal ,
when one failed
one doesn't happy to see anyone success
of course not all the i3 participants
very few
but Sslee can be counted as one
why Sslee ?
he is also as cash rich as Aseng
when we are not very anxious to earn fast cash
we enjoy the process shares trading is the transfer of wealth from a weak hand to a strong hand
which hand is your choice ?
of course the strong hand !
to ridicule Aseng or to enjoy the process of waiting 2 years with Aseng ,
2 years full of wonderful hope and sweet dreams
of course to enjoy the process is more superior
2021-10-04 17:51 | Report Abuse
because you had already fail .
you feel better if Aseng also fail
2021-10-04 17:50 | Report Abuse
why praying so hard Aseng fail in Jaks Investment ?
2021-10-04 17:49 | Report Abuse
because you know Aseng did not tell lie
2021-10-04 17:49 | Report Abuse
why so desperate to prove Aseng is wrong ?
2021-10-04 17:46 | Report Abuse
I can wait 2 more years
but you can not
2021-10-04 17:45 | Report Abuse
why we can not be good friends ?
I am cash rich , i can afford to the paper loss
you have limited cash , you can not afford the paper loss
2021-10-04 17:37 | Report Abuse
before you see Aseng make money in the market .
you will see Aseng opponents washed out from the market first .
2021-10-04 17:33 | Report Abuse
no one can predict the market movement .
today can go down 3 cents doesn't mean tomorrow it can not go up 10cents .
most important thing is that I see the reason and I believe the reason it will .
i am prepared to hold for 2 years or RM1.5 whichever is earlier
just do nothing is the best strategy to achieve the goal
who said so and make the guarantee ?
Charlie Munger "big money is made in the waiting .
2021-10-04 16:07 | Report Abuse
The poor man always dare not buy a valuable stock at a cheap price , they want cheaper .
The rich man always never hesitate to buy a valuable stock at a reasonable price , never wait for cheaper
2021-10-04 16:00 | Report Abuse
Why the poor man is always poorer and the rich man is always richer ?
2021-10-04 15:58 | Report Abuse
HAVE YOU SEEN A PASAR MALAM COMMENT BEFORE ?
HERE IT IS !
Posted by i3lurker > Oct 4, 2021 3:38 PM | Report Abuse
their false and fake valuation is based on personal false and fake formulas they invented themselves.
and also personal theoretical foundations that's totally different from business schools and experts like Professor Damodaran
2021-10-04 15:56 | Report Abuse
Posted by hairy > Oct 4, 2021 3:22 PM | Report Abuse
Raising chip prices as supply shortages beneficiaries this semiconductor sector : Dufu ,Aemulus ,Frontkn ,Greatec , Kesm, Kobay , Mi ,Mpi, Sam ,Unisem ,Penta, Uchitech , Vitrox, Vis ,Vs , Inari , Keyasic , Dnex
see the way you talk , see the way Hairy talk , then you know who is talking nonsense
Aseng sifu : best way to prove other wrong is not to argue or degrading but to suggest a better choice
2021-10-04 13:59 | Report Abuse
ks55,
what you said make sense . I like your opinion
walk away if you can not afford the cow which work for you eat fat grass
find another cow that eat less and work more
a very good advice for the day
well done
2021-10-04 13:43 | Report Abuse
so, the picture is very clear
who is misleading and who is not
if you are the one chosen to be the winner , you see the wisdom
if you are not , no point I repeat a thousand times, the goldmine is still an asshole to you
2021-10-04 13:39 | Report Abuse
I did not force you to buy if you are not interested .
I did force you to agree with me ?
you are most welcome to share your valuable opinion
but.....
1. not the pasar malam type of valuation that nobody know whether it is valid or not valid
2. not calling other mad dog before you had proven yourself a good dog
2021-10-04 13:31 | Report Abuse
what is the fair value of Jaks calculated by DK who is an qualified accountant and also an expert of
powerplant that many people i3 know, is RM 1.50 . the figures was derived from DCF valuation
with a 5 years special provision of 30M per year for domestic business loss .
Tell isn't not safe enough the MOS ?
Tell me , where can you find a counter in Bursa where there is clear 300% appreciation of your
capital employed?
2021-10-04 13:29 | Report Abuse
Posted by Cnlim > Oct 3, 2021 9:26 AM | Report Abuse
Aseng why is jak price still going south when they have the most lucrative investment term in Vietnam
Answer : FEAR OF FURTHER FUND RAISING AND EPS DILUTION
Aseng : Jaks is a small company but doing big business . fund raising is
inevitable .
1. a PP 0f 20% for expansion that will bring in a return of 30% or
more is value accretive or cash burning ?
2. A RI to subscribe the power plant that will bring in strong and consistent recurring income is value accretive or cash burning ?
3. how about the number of shares and the earning per share is diluted ?
This is a typical retailer mentality .
when you have money in the pocket , no price is expensive
when you have limited money in the pocket , no price is cheap .
Is is true more shares more difficult to goreng and less shares easier to goreng .
this is another typical retailer mentality
if we know what we are doing and believe what we are doing is right , there is always not enough shares in the market for the banker to buy when the value is seen . HONGSENG is a good example
Hongseng ,
Number of shares = 2.5B,
Price = RM2.65
Latest QR EPS= 0.06
JAKS
Number of shares = 2.0B
price =RM 0.47
latest QR EPS = 1.64
2021-10-04 13:21 | Report Abuse
please compare your calculation with the following
https://klse.i3investor.com/blogs/jennylohsharing/2020-12-17-story-h1538277157-Jaks_Resources_The_Most_Reliable_Earnings_Guidance_for_JHDP.jsp
is it fair to call your valuation a Pasar Malam Standard ?
2021-10-04 13:19 | Report Abuse
i3lurker 1)
theoretical valuation only 35 to 42 sen
2) Company dun have enough cash now
12 sen difference for such low value share sure will attract attention
what a pasar malam valuation ?????????????????
2021-10-04 13:17 | Report Abuse
company management lousy ? in what way it doesn't meet the requirement and standard of the SC for good corporate governance ?
2021-10-04 13:15 | Report Abuse
DK cabut ? do you dare to challenge me a RM100k donation for charity
2021-10-04 13:13 | Report Abuse
hobobem ,
you are still too young to post any comment here .
if it is better for you to keep quiet than to make a noise , then keep quiet
don't talk so much rubbish or call people a dog , it doesn't make you look a better dog
2021-10-04 13:07 | Report Abuse
opportunity cost ? do you dare to prove your opportunity cost ? do you dare to guarantee your opportunity cost is profitable ?
2021-10-03 11:37 | Report Abuse
my good friends , these are the facts and figures that I can share with you before I go back to my own group .
it is not difficult to do it right as long as you have rocket science wisdom to differentiate the true and the false. the factual and common sense that not necessary makes sense .
Good luck
Bye ....
2021-10-03 11:30 | Report Abuse
But you do not believe , the banker believe
But you can not wait , the banker can wait
Outcome : I can not determine the outcome but I certainly can determine my choice of action to the outcome I had wanted
2021-10-03 11:26 | Report Abuse
what is the fair value of Jaks calculated by DK who is an qualified accountant and also an expert of
powerplant that many people know is RM 1.50 . the figures was derived from DCF valuation with
a 5 years special provision of 30M for domestic business loss .
Tell me , where can you find a counter in Bursa where there is clear 300% appreciation of your
capital employ
2021-10-03 11:16 | Report Abuse
Posted by i3lurker > Oct 3, 2021 10:47 AM | Report Abuse
The info why Jaks share price is going down is publicly available in the announcements to BURSA
its not rocket science.
its very easy
if you just apply the "proper" share valuation procedure as taught by business schools
and also experts like Professor Damodaran, you will get the correct answer.
For those who have been brain washed with fake and false logic by nasty uncle, that's your own problem, no one can help you.
Aseng : use your rocket science wisdom to judge this comment .
what announcement in Bursa ? not mentioned specifically
what proper share valuation ? not mentioned specifically
what Professor Damodaran taught ? nobody know
"For those who have been brain washed with fake and false logic" - what powerful fake and false logic you are talking about ? you can't say and Nobody know
2021-10-03 11:08 | Report Abuse
JAKS
Number of shares = 2.0B
price =RM 0.47
latest QR EPS = 1.64
2021-10-03 11:08 | Report Abuse
Hongseng ,
Number of shares = 2.5B,
Price = RM2.65
Latest QR EPS= 0.06
2021-10-03 11:06 | Report Abuse
if we know what we are doing and believe what we are doing is right , there is always not enough shares in the market for the banker to buy when the value is seen . HONGSENG is a good example
2021-10-03 11:03 | Report Abuse
more shares more difficult to goreng
less shares easier to goreng .
another typical retailer mentality
2021-10-03 11:02 | Report Abuse
This is a typical retailer mentality .
when you have money in the pocket , no price is expensive
when you have limited money in the pocket , no price is cheap .
2021-10-03 11:00 | Report Abuse
how about the number of shares and the earning per share is diluted ?
2021-10-03 10:59 | Report Abuse
A RI to subscribe the power plant that will bring strong ,consistent recurring is value accretive or cash burning ?
2021-10-03 10:57 | Report Abuse
but a PP 0f 20% for expansion that will bring in a return of 30% or
more is value accretive or cash burning ?
Stock: [JAKS]: JAKS RESOURCES BERHAD
2021-10-04 22:20 | Report Abuse
be fair to your hard earned money .
you should give your money that work for you in the market at least 2 years to grow or to achieve the fair value of RM1.50 whichever come first
Jaks today is no more the Jaks before
the company is now moving in the right direction to create more value for the shareholders.
the future expansion is into the solar , LNG and hydro power
disposal of the domestic loss making business is ongoing
these are the good news that will attract the buyer to push the price sky high