@perx135305, you are absolutely spot on, on the level of thinking and interpretation of data !

Just as I was expecting for some time ago! Well done to those who understand the airline biz and its temporary impacts by Covid 19 pandemic and not losing their heads while some lost theirs'!

Taking listed companies private is nothing new or unusual for Johor Corp. In fact Johor Corp had been very active in taking its listed subsidiaries or companies private. In 2011 it had taken both QSR and KFC private and later on Kulim in 2015.
The market believes that when Johor Corp has mentioned its intention to take KPJ private it was done with real serious intention as now it is the best time to do it. The share price of KPJ was depressed until very recently due to its poor current financial performance thanks to Covid 19 pandemic.

@Thinkcarefully, it may not be true that does not own any hospital. In the latest financial statements KPJ did own free hold lands and buildings amount to RM 260.714 m and RM 1,528.257 m. respectively where as the total value of all hospitals under lease by KPJ was only amount to RM 1,051.172 m. In addition KPJ also owned RM 337.748 m. of investment properties.

Taking private or not is not an issue directly concern the company but it is something that solely within the rights and purview of the company shareholders only. The company job is to run and operate the biz as usual and therefore it will only have knowledge about say taking the company private after it has received notice from the shareholder that intend to take the company private via whatever means.

Just keep your head while others are losing theirs'.......
You will do well !

Finally now AA has good things coming in its favor. Those who understand AA business and willing to wait will certainly be very well rewarded.

Nothing to worry, keep cool and be patient

humbleisland: I am in line with your thinking and argument. Air Asia has lost large amount of money in putting fuel hedges earlier.

Air Asia will likely make a very good gain this year as the fuel prices has shot up, assuming Air Asia has continued its fuel hedging strategy as it normally did in the previous years.

It was never the intention of Johor Corp to sell KPJ to TPG but to keep KPJ under its control, may be in partnership with TPG. After all Johor Corp now only owns less than 36%, so saying that KPJ must be owned wholly by a bumiputra mandated company is not quite true. The only possibility Johor Corp can not sell what it owns now, less than 36%, to nonbumiputra entity. Privatization can still carry on.

Yes definitely better than putting money in bank deposits.

EPF had been buying this counter steady for some time already

Taking private or not is not really important as KPJ is still much unappreciated and undervalued at current prices although Johor Corp the controlling shareholder has indicated that it is considering taking KPJ private before Covid 19 appeared. KPJ owned and operated the largest no of hospitals in Malaysia and also operates hospitals in Thailand, Indonesia and Bangladesh. It also involves in medical training college and retirement homes in Australia.

@mni. You are right about Cypark gearing/debts and its cash flows at the present time. Cypark is putting a lot of capital to mainly green and environmental related projects which need big capital and take some time to develop. However when these projects are completed and operated, these projects will bring in ample and robust cash flows and lucrative profits as these projects are backed by long term purchase agreements for example with TNB in the case for power projects for normally a duration of 21 years. On top Cypark in still in the growth stage with more projects expected to come and this continue to need more capital funding.
However later on, Cypark will be reaping huge amount of robust cash flows and good profits. This counter is not for some one to expect quick speculative profit but for serious investors who understand Cypark business and its business models. Not surprising if you look at the shareholding structure to find that Cypark is virtually being owned by the insiders (Management and Directors) and institutions.

Now a group of buyers collecting any offer at 195 or below.

This MMC deal is a win-win for both the Offeror and the minority shareholders many of whom been suffering due to very depressed price for long time. Now this SCR provide good opportunity to exit, probably with some gains as well.

@Benhoben, you are absolutely right on many others talking about and doing so many MOUs but nothing materialized at the end.

Let us move on to other counters. There are many highly misunderstood and thus undervalued.

And those who simply believe such amours need to be examined!

Best just look at official stock prices ! After all we do all our transactions purely based on price, not based on other things.

No real need to know official result lah!

Any how Fortune Favours the Braves !

Official result has to be carefully scrutinized and properly audited especially in this case of some one taking an important and strategic company private. Some parties may even try to contest the validity of the whole thing. I am not suggesting in any way this is happening here.

Now the country is opening up, time to go for well deserved travels and funs. Thank you the Offeror and the minority share holders.

Very happy making some quick intraday gains.

Well done and well deserved to those who were rational and not listening to rumors and illogical arguments etc. Easy gains to them all.

If fails, the Offeror can now collect cheaper shares below offer price ! Big loss to minority shareholders.

Attend the meeting just to collect door gifts and quarreling with directors why no food to tapau ?

Companies should stop giving gifts as it attract wrong crowds, should instead give good dividends to attract wright people or investors

@Johnzhang. Most of attendees at AGMs or EGMs were for door gifts and foods ! Some companies make the mistakes giving gifts or food attracting the wrong crowds hustling into these meetings. Many bringing in all sorts of people as proxies to get maximum no of gifts!

@ValueInvesting, you caught them red handed !

Yes best to give your proxy to the Chair to vote on your behalf.

Never listen to any rumor in investing. Use your own understanding and be rational at all time.

Yes, if the Proposal fails, minority shareholders have more to lose and the Offeror may even gains by buying more MMC shares below RM 2

@raven, be careful it it fails for whatever reason price may even go pass the offer price!

Any how we all, except those that sold recently, are finally a happy lot!

@WenJun, I though you predict if it fails, price will exceed the offer price?

Then why the price of MMC dropped recently ? If SCR passed, it will rise to RM 2, if fails it may go over RM 2 ?

The Offeror has more to gain if this offer fails and the minority share holders have more to lose!

It seems if the offer fails, the Offeror may get to take MMC private via a longer but cheaper way. Very ironic!

@menotassossin. I agree on what you said. If SCR fails, the minority shareholders got nothing to gain but most probably will suffer loss. On the other hand the Offeror can buy cheaper than the failed offer price of RM 2. Take it private directly via share purchase at lower cost!
That is why I have been saying it is crazy to oppose the offer on the table now.

@Johnzhang, well deserved. You have done the most rational thing!

Relax, just enjoy the flight !

Exactly SincereStock. As non controlling shareholders, we will gain nothing by rejecting the offer even if we believe it is unfair. There is more to lose than to gain. If those who really believe RM 2 is unfair price then just buy whatever available now below the unfair price, no need to waste time and effort to just say it is unfair. Life is short, just buy it all below the unfair price!

Well always wise to remember what, Keynes, the great well known economist said that “In the long run we are all dead”

In investing or trading, it not whether you are right or even wrong is the cardinal issue. It is quite simply can you make money or not out of the market. We have to be wise to admit to ourselves that the market may not want behave exactly to our own wishes. As I said it is a complex adaptive system.

Finally in any market that include the stock market, we can only buy or sell at what the market offer not at what we think it should be priced. Market always disregard subjective individual opinions as the stock market, as we know it, is a complex adaptive system.

Why against the proposal? If we think MMC undervalued at offer of RM 2.00, we should have bought it all quite recently at much less than RM 1.00 or even at the current price of well below RM 2.00. If RM 2.00 underpriced, certainly current price is a very good bargain. No need argue not fair at RM 2.00, just buy all the available shares currently being offered for sale at much below unfair price!

The Offeror I believe must have done at the very least some homework before embarking to take MMC private as it is a large company with strategic assets, not just another small company in non strategic biz.
Earlier some years back, the same Offeror had successfully taken Malakoff in private in 2006 valuing the company some RM 2.6b and got it relisted later on.