humbled, actually the quiet I meant is when everyone else forgotten this stock, haha.

I think the day when this thread is completely quite will be the day of it's comeback. Hmm...

alpha, meaning third party collect shares dumped by contra players and sell them to directors off-market issit?

duit, then may consider to write bad things so that they wont happen, ngehehe xd

gasing berputar, xxxx, good enough?

personal opinion, now it's the best chance to buy it with lowest risk, u can get your stop loss (0.480) very near to entry price (0.495), you are only risking 1.5 cents only. I can't tell if it will go up, but if it fall lower, the loss is 1 to 3 cents if cut loss fast enough, if it move up, you'll get the profit.

duit, ==

xxxx, I'm guessing that you operate based on fear, you buy at the point when people are most fear. Am I guessing it right? =D

a lame joke, they are disposing it few floors each month, so took some time. =D

force selling take place on opening, morning, last hour or whole day of T+4?

I bought hohup before, last time, when additional listing happens, it moves up, but now duno why, haiz...

distribution is selling to the public. From the few who holds a lot to the majority.

This time hohup made me to learn a lesson, not to expect to make quick bucks, I might be lucky once in a while but wont be lucky every time. I need to reshape my mentality. I also would like to apologize if I have offended any people here.

I may be wrong, because my experience very little so far.
What I believe all this time is sometimes big players can be collecting or dumping stocks, if they are collecting, it's either during price going down or trapped in a range. If they are dumping shares to small retailers(like me, who have weak buying power), they will do it after price is marked up. So I dont think the whole mac n april, when hohup was trapped in a range of 1.45 to 1.52, big players were dumping. I thought they rather mark up to attract people to chase after it. That's what I think I 'understand' so far, not sure if it's really so.
However I might be wrong and there were no big players involved here, the whole thing just orchestrated randomly, and I was tepuk tangan sebelah the whole time, thinking that acc. happened.
Hope others can add in or correct me.

I doubt if the whole march and april was distribution.

80 sahaja

xxxx, force selling occur on T+3 or T+4 usually?

resuming price movement soon?

Ya, whats wrong? lol ==

alpha, mind to share if you are using any ratios or indicator to inspect it's fundamentals and how do you derive the your fair value? I'm trying to learn FA, so thanks if anyone willing to teach me what to look for in FA.

last time saw the hammer but didn't buy, issit possible for 1 day retracement to happen? hope to catch it

ruru, I think maybe it's so, but the 'borrowing' need to be settled in certain period of time, for maybank i duno how long. Why dont you contact Maybank to ask them? =D

no, Shanu, I just saw johnnycash commend and I knew that http://www.bursamarketplace.com features stock screener, so just to show him the link...

johnnycash -> http://www.bursamarketplace.com/

Special_ID thanks for your moral support, hahahaha, but i wonder if there will be 1000+ reader of this thread.

I just found an useful source for FA user to analyse the fundamental of a company, it includes cash flow, growth, financial ratios, almost everything of every company can be found here, just key in the name of company in stock quick finder box.
http://www.bursamarketplace.com/index.php?ch=ch_themarket&pg=pg_tm_stocksss
I think it will be very useful if you are doing FA.

xxxx, any rationale behind why Ho Hup will go back up today?

humbled, i learnt TA from this site for free. Not sure if it's really useful to you.
http://www.swing-trade-stocks.com/

humbled, someone told me before that you will sell because you don't have the confident on the company, but that makes me think back, why did I bought it at first place if I'm not confident with it.
A good remedy for your condition, play more PS. xD

duit, I'm ikan bilis, nope, i'm zooplankton only in fact. Actually I got follow your posting a while on other thread last time, so thought u must be buying big, so want to stalk stalk to see the vol. hehehe

duit, can u tell me the exact time (including seconds) ur transaction is matched if u dont mind? want to check trade detail. thanks

hahaha, for me it's time to hold, lol.

Matrixcool, really Thank you very much, I just learnt one thing about acc/distribution from you, never thought of it can be used for short term period.

matrixcool, may I know your method on doing the calculation, hope you can give brief explanation on it. Thank you very much, hope your father is doing fine. =D

laffle, I like your joke, hahaha, really made my daY. xD

This moment really doesn't seems to be in our favor esp. short term trader, it's beyond our control haha. Anyway hope inwest88 is right, I have not given up yet on hohup.

aiya, didn't gap up alot...

Sorry ah, need to ask for opinion on willow, the price action from 24/4 up to 2/5 signal distribution or accumulation by big player? Issit possible to tell by chart reading alone? Thanks in advance!

Collaterised - is like 'cagaran' in Malay, definition edited from investopedia to fit this context: you pledges assets (cash and shares) as recourse to the broker house in the event that the you default your payment for the purchase(financial instruments, like share etc).
So the method is like you are borrowing money from broker house when you make any purchase, then you have to settle the payment, and you can make purchase with value more than cash you have in your account as long as you settle them in designated period, or else they will be forced sold and you will need to pay for the loss, and of course take the profit if there is any. Buy more than what you have without intention to pay, purposely waiting for force selling is called contra trading.

Cash upfront - is put cash first into acc., then only u can make any purchase, if no money in acc. can't make any purchase.

Collaterised and 'cash upfront' are referring to account type, meaning which type of account an user is using.

That's what I know so far, anyway, please correct me if there are any dealer or remiser or any senior find that I got it wrongly.

Eh... I wonder since when syndicates have become so friendly, until an extent that they give friendly warning. I thought they would rather play hide and seek instead. lol

anyone know what exactly is their biz? I meant any brand from them that we might know?

Anyway I think it's no point to argue if limit up will occur or not, obviously those holding it will definitely wish so, unless they still want to buy more.
My view is that upliftment marks the completion of their regularisation plan, and they shall able to move further now.
To limit up or not, it's beyond our control, why don't we just wait for the answer on Monday?
=D

This saling membantu phenomena, issit good for Destini?

valuemaster, I heard that funds intend to buy it's share via PP, how true would that be?

Erm, for upper limit, is it calculated based on previous closing price not current day opening price? I sounds like pig now, too greedy... =3

Anyway I never experience limit up, will it be suspended if limit up occur? Please bear with my ignorance. =D

Optimus X, is 1 lorry 1000lot? Now too excited, duno what price, hope to get it above 2.05 (my broker hse tp). Luckily I got whole weekend to think. =d

Fulltime, where are you? Everyone is cheering here!

hahahaha Optimus X, calculated for it. xD

Yes, We hit the jackpot!!!

the hide and seek game can last for another week, haha.
Hoping for the best.
xxxx, do you embrace contrarian trading? xD