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2019-06-08 16:09 | Report Abuse
( AK) Value Investor comment: I response
If you are Tony and Kamaruddin , Malaysia will have another great brand like Air Asia.
That is called the spirit of entrepreneurship and vision.
We are just small potato with tiny brain without entrepreneurship and the courage . Just always talk cock and take others advantage.
We are just " frogs live in the well " having tiny little vision to the outside world.
Why I'm saying we are frogs......? All comments in this forum proved that we are frog.
Although we are frog, we can ride on Tony and Kamaruddin's entrepreneurship so that we can enjoy the fruitful result.
An objective question:
A: Support Tony and Kamaruddin
B: Stay neutrality
C: Oppose them
D: stay away from investment.
I choose to be a frog resting on their shoulder. They will bring us to the much bigger vision of outside world.
2019-06-07 16:17 | Report Abuse
Koyee:
To be honest with you, we concerned only with big player. We small potato just talk cock .
As long as big player comes in.
I got 20000 shares in Air Asia.
How many shares does you own has nothing to do with our gain, since you are also small potatoe, not worth to waste resources and relations to do " negligible thing".
Our target aims big player .
2019-06-07 15:35 | Report Abuse
Time to add . Close to 4pm, flush out contra player T 2
2019-06-07 15:28 | Report Abuse
MK4872:
We are concerned with Air Asia price. As long as it shoots up.
Let's wait.
2019-06-07 15:20 | Report Abuse
MK4872, you are right. But human always got " lubang ". Human operates all the machine .
2019-06-07 15:13 | Report Abuse
Those in this forum who dares to tell your CDS account , I can check whether you are holdings Air Asia or talk cock.
2019-06-07 15:10 | Report Abuse
RainT, that's is why Air Asia knew who is the shareholders, how many holdings. It is important by the time dividend disbursement on entitlement date. Moveover, they will verify whether you are a shareholder qualified to attend AGM
2019-06-07 15:06 | Report Abuse
RainT, someone works in Bursa KL. They recorded parties transactions to CDS account from all brokers.
2019-06-07 13:19 | Report Abuse
One must note that :
A real FUND MANAGER doesn't write any report to public reading. They only write report once a year regarding their result to mutual trust fund investors.
2019-06-07 13:15 | Report Abuse
Conclusion:
Analysts responsible to NO ONE. Read carefully their report, they disclaim everything , buy or sell at your own risk.
2019-06-07 13:13 | Report Abuse
Conclusion : By analogy to a war
ANALYTS = Who works in office comfortably with a paper and pen and calculator , talk cock to himself by taking out formula learnt in college without approaching the reality of business. ( Theory )
FUND MANAGERS= The true analyst and general who command soldiers ( money in hand ) to war and accountable to nation ( trust fund investors ) . He or she actually exists in battlefield . ( Theory and Practicality )
2019-06-07 13:07 | Report Abuse
Explanations:
Public investment = share Remisier ( opening share account, providing trading platform, advisory )
Instances : Kenanga investment , Maybank investment , RHB investment , Hong Leong investment ...etc
ANALYSTS work for investment entity.
Whereas , Public Mutual Trust Fund or any name with Mutual Trust = collecting money from a group of people to invest in stock market .
FUND MANAGERS work for Trust Fund.
2019-06-07 11:52 | Report Abuse
Public mutual fund bought in 114300 units
2019-06-07 11:11 | Report Abuse
On the way to 29/7, each day averagely increasing 5 cents. PLease calculate TP.
2019-06-07 10:43 | Report Abuse
Agjl, those selling today, most of them ikan bilis, let them in out in out masturbation. We are waiting big fish.......make love with actuality, not with hand.
2019-06-07 10:31 | Report Abuse
I directly asked my friend who works in Bursa. They recorded our share holdings details into CDS.
2019-06-07 10:11 | Report Abuse
At 9.12am, , EPF bought 500000 shares at RM 2.89
2019-06-06 16:14 | Report Abuse
Agjl:
If before 29/7, his Target Price materialized, We shall invite him to classy dinner in KLCC.
I also give him " ang pao ", encouraging him write more negatively about Air Asia.
2019-06-06 15:10 | Report Abuse
Time is tik tok tik tok to 29/7 .
2019-06-06 15:08 | Report Abuse
Agjl, elbrutus:
I shall scold CIMB Raymond, his job is not done properly and seriously . If I'm the superior of him, I will press him harder to write badly and negatively about Air Asia.
He shall write more , everyday non stop and provide target price each day. Give more convincing reasons to influence reader to sell.
We just stay behind and watch the show, grab opportunity.
2019-06-06 13:39 | Report Abuse
EPF bought 4.1 millions shares on 30/5 ( dividend announcement ) , increasing holding to 6.27%.
I personally believe EPF will continuously buy in till holding 10%. .
4.1 millions x RM 2.65= RM 10.865 millions .
Woohoo.... EPF may hint that who cannot hold just sell, especially foreign funds, retailers, other local financial institution.
EPF is cash king with enormous holding powers. Cash flow in daily.
2019-06-04 12:37 | Report Abuse
By the way , again, we are retailers just talk cock. Retailers have no magic power to move up or down Air Asia price.
Only big players can push or drag it . Among big players , only super big player can do so. MONEY is king . Who is the MONEY KING institution in Malaysia ?
2019-06-04 12:16 | Report Abuse
I respected each comment and mind. I'm aware that whenever and wherever got human existence , 3 standing parties will result to a topic.
That is:
Support ---- Neutral----- Opposition
90 cents oh........
2019-06-04 11:41 | Report Abuse
It is great and excited to see that people are anticipating to buy in lower price. When large group of people are adopting such strategy, by " contrary thinking", high probability that Air Asia will fly soon. Leaving low probability or nil for them to buy in lower price.
I patiently wait which horse goes out from stable firstly.
I also patiently wait which horse will follow afterwards to chase it.
Of course i patiently wait which horse runs to the top of hill for me or others to sell.
CIMB nominees ( tempatan) Sdn Bhd holds in trust for Tony and Kamarrudin as direct beneficiaries of Air Asia shares ( 3 millions ++ unit share, source: Air Asia website)
This explains that analyst still analyst, a bureaucracy company lack of communications with their peers.
Analyst earns monthly salary, their job is writing report.
2019-06-03 19:34 | Report Abuse
Furthermore , I also experienced various analysts report tend to influence price.
2019-06-03 19:33 | Report Abuse
As a matter of fact, I'm Air Asia " zero cost" shareholders with 20000 shares since 2016 until now. Experiencing change of government, trade war, ordinary oil up and down, currency up and down, bad motive Hong Kong GMT report.
I only got one counter Air Asia.
2019-06-03 19:29 | Report Abuse
Human nature tends to listen " negativity" as opposed to good news. Otherwise , analysts has no whatsoever position in the market.
For example: newspaper. They knew who is their fans, and write whatsoever fans love to read. From that, they get support and of course business as usual and salary as usual.
2019-06-03 19:25 | Report Abuse
Tell you a past analysts about crude oil in 2014:
At that time , plenty of so-called professor analyst step out and said that the crude oil reserve in the world will be exhausted in 2025 where the price will reach over USD 200/ barrel. The crude oil price reached actually to 130 USD / barrel. At that time Malaysian Ringgit to USD conversion is highest at USD 1 to RM 2.95 . Our beloved Petronas share price shot until RM 30/ share.
However, good feel never last long, few months later , the crude oil slump until USD 20 / barrel. Petronas slump to RM 15/ share.
Conclusion : analyst always has their motive. They did not bear any legal responsibility . You read last page of their report , they " DISCLAIM " everything .
2019-06-03 19:16 | Report Abuse
Agjl, looks like CiMB Raymond Yap is Air Asia director and insider. Tony is fake one never exist.
Furthermore, will one quarter business determine the fate of Air Asia ?
All analysts reports written on their date respectively .
Now, crude oil slump ! What about crude oil price maintained such range until end of year ?
Analysts is true fun analysts.
For example, crude oil price goes up but maintained just few weeks, they jumped out and said that Air Asia'a earning may be effected.....
However, when crude oil price slumped as currently , they just silent and silent.
2019-06-03 18:36 | Report Abuse
There is no analyst award or similar recognition in the world ( think why ?) but there are 10 continuos world stage awards to Air Asia
2019-06-03 18:27 | Report Abuse
In my opinion , Tony imposes psychological punishment to those so- called analysts ( CIMB..... etc)critics, racists and haters. He has been suffering 18 years humiliations under the analysis reports, which only oversees " one side of Air Asia" without thinking or unable to think that Air Asia is a variety in business.
I personally commented that " analysts still analysts ", " wise businessman still wise businessmen", " dividend 90 cents still dividend 90 cents".
90 cents fat meat: there may be 3 consequences.
1: Big boy push down to get more big meat ( scare retailers and call panic selling )
2: big boy push up and then push down ( create uncertainty)
3: big boy do nothing ( if so, all of us will absolutely safe and smile, 2.89 ding ding dong dong until ex date becoming RM 1.99, waiting back to normal range RM 2
Big boy now headache rather than us retailers. Dilemma of buy or no buy.
2019-06-02 20:12 | Report Abuse
Agjl: 27/6/2019, 10am, " Sharebuyback resolution ".
2019-06-02 19:30 | Report Abuse
Agjl, let's go to AGM in coming days . I stayed nearby KLIA2.
2019-06-02 13:36 | Report Abuse
As a matter of fact and truth , what we are talking here has no effect whatsoever to the share price ( buy or sell) . We are just retailers or kacang putih.
Only institutional players like EPF, local and foreign fund managers and investment banks has the power of pushing up or down, since they got millions and millions money daily flowing to them.
Conclusion : We and local analysts PBB, CIMB are just talk cock.
A quote suddenly emerged in my mind: When people are fearful, time to buy.......( I can feel that in this forum)
2019-06-01 23:12 | Report Abuse
I suggest PBB and CIMB shall comment that Air Asia close shop la, waste analysis paper ( because they always analyze mistakenly ) no need airline in Malaysia. If it is so, PBB and CIMB shall close shop too.
Public perception of air lines business is high risks ( those said that words may actually buy a lot for them self ) . Air Asia , best low cost carrier in the world always proving the perception wrong . Am I right ?
2019-06-01 21:19 | Report Abuse
The current price still being pressed by some sharks ( may be investment banks, warrant issuers...)
Rest assured that: the spring being pressured harder and longer, the jump or gap up will correlatively strong .
Why? I already prepare cash waiting to buy, believing others also adopt such strategy.
I just wait those or who cannot tahan !!!!!
Most people want the big fat meat ! Human nature can't tahan it.
Don't tahan la...... sell if you can't tahan ; buy if you hungry !
I like this dilemma, fat dividend but afraid drop afterwards. Haha.........
2019-06-01 21:14 | Report Abuse
As a matter of fact, dividend directly paid to Tune group and not Tony and Kamaruddin personally, they merely largest shareholders of Tune group. Private placement last time was loaned against Tune group.
Those who said what he will do with their dividend, Korean wife ....... bla bla bla . I'm aware that those persons are " frogs in the well which can view the sky through hole of well in such diameter "
2019-06-01 20:50 | Report Abuse
The value of Air Asia shares changing hand starting in Monday after the announcement of bumper dividend only 400 million ringgit . It implies that majority of shareholders never sell their share. Bear in mind, Air Asia current market value ( RM 2.89) stood at 9 billion .
Conclusion :
Investment banks will try to influence public to sell by losing confidence strategy hidden in their so called data. Exaggerate the plane leasing, USD , Oil.....
2019-06-01 20:42 | Report Abuse
Good say Agjl !
When Tony and Kamaruddin privately been placed RM 1.80 AA share for RM 1 billion loan. I just straightly followed their step by buying in open market RM 1.82 ( whoever can buy) .
Ask yourself a question:
Was Air Asia asking right issues from shareholders ? No, they didn't from the beginning of AA listing. ( 18 years )
They borrowed from bank on their own name through Tune group ( bank logically would ask them to convince, why bank should lend money for private placement ? )
Reasons ? Prospects of Air Asia ? Even Tony may place collateral in return for loan.
Bank will evaluate the " repayment capabilities and score value" rather than collateral being the second thing.
You may argue they told bank that we will sell plane in future like now to repay the loan. ( woo..their CCRIS report will become bad and worse)
Haha...similar to a person who apply housing loan then told bank that He will sell my house in future to repay the loan even he can't make monthly repayment commitment. ( this implies lelong not a true business) For the sake of commercial reality, your loan shall be rejected.
EPF increased steadily of Air Asia shares ranging 2.7-2.43, holdings 5.67% to 6 % ( see Bursa announcement) . EPF outsources the fund to nominees buying. Who is the nominees ? HSBC..... ( see Bursa) The decisions of nominees is no play play, they need to stay investment return focus and hold accountable to EPF , otherwise the outsource fund will be lower and lower.
For example: I take your money to invest and promise x % return, if I hit the target, I will have XXX% of profit.
By the way, I suggest all critics , haters, racists, doubters ....negative person to sell, I will buy in . Tony and Kamaruddin and EPF already hold more than 40% of Air Asia shares.
I also wish all foreign fund to sell until zero share.
2019-06-01 16:20 | Report Abuse
I read each comment in this forum. Oil, USD, trade war....bla bla bla ..
By the way, I'm " absolute zero cost" in Air Asia since holding from 2016, 20000 shares . Going through change of government, "Regular " up or down of oil and USD, trade war.
Conclusion: Profit more than double of my initial investment.
I respect people comment. However, what is the fact and the truth from 2016 until now 2019 ?
Analysts comment and speculate with "probability". Furthermore, Air Asia is their " most loved and hated".
2019-05-30 21:34 | Report Abuse
Thank you Tony. I'm "zero cost" in holding Air Asia shares.
Bought RM 1.80 x 20000 shares = RM 36000 in 2016.
Enjoy dividends since 2016 until currently. (0.04, 0.12,0.12,0.12,0.40,0.12,0.90), total RM 1.82 dividend per share.
Cost 1.80, dividend 1.82= absolute zero cost (all capital returned to my pocket)
Now, i may sell or buy whatever price i please.
Golden rule:
Business sense not gambling mind, plenty of Air Asia planes flying and landing in KLIA2 ( i stayed nearby where i could view them), it is viewable- sensible-touchable-hearable..... Ignore all so called analysts, critics, haters, racist,.....bla bla bla.....
Air Asia workers including Tony himself working hard to me and also to long term investors.
Firmly hold it irrespective of Dow Jones Up or Down or Oil up or down or trade war....
Wholeheartedly saying,
No analysts can accurately predict the share price.
But i can say that they always can accurately or precisely shake and affect your faith in Air Asia investment.
Once again, Bravo Tony, Kamarrudin and workers.
I would like to see you guys performing well in Teleport, Digital, Big Pay business. Show off to the world!
Remember, i want multiple zero cost!!!!!
2019-04-23 09:08 | Report Abuse
Thank you for selling, I can buy cheap , haha....
2019-02-14 11:08 | Report Abuse
Thank you for calling sell again. Haha....
2019-01-30 19:02 | Report Abuse
Mr Shark , please create more selling pressure, let the psychology works. I like to read people ask " why drop why drop" , please shake their mind key in " sell". Making a very easy domino effect with less bullet.
2019-01-30 18:55 | Report Abuse
Thank you for today 8 cents, tomorrow 10 cents downward , RM 2.90 , 2.80, 2.70 ( I park to match). Don't shy my friend, please sell more. Clear your stock, nothing to worry. Mr Shark, selling pressure still in low gear, please turn to high gear.
2019-01-30 16:33 | Report Abuse
Yeah, that is the right attitude, making people confuse and uncertain. We shall make money. Please sell please sell
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2020-02-02 14:02 | Report Abuse
Respect all comments in the first place.
History:
1: 2016 Hong Kong based firm GMT published a report that Air Asia's account is "fake". Share price drop to 0.70.
Facts along the years: Thank you very much to market, i buy a lot of shares under RM 1. Holding three years, multiple returns with current special dividend.
Buy and hold for few years, instead of in out in out. How much can you earn?
Stock market = human nature prefers negativity which match their perception. Once bias in their mind, always bias. By the way, Is it the true fact?
I'm not arguing with anybody here. Whoever can freely earn or loss any money. Buy or sell subject to your decision processed in mind.
For me, if history repeated, opportunity comes along with crisis.
Golden rule: holding power.