richardcslim: Tis 3weeks market so bad but vivo not even drop Half sen.

from 0.285 it drop to 0.275 for a week and you say it never even drop half sen? This is what Im saying, dont mislead.

Historylearnt: only time will tell, of coz its more profitable when you are there when the price is the lowest and it is moving upwards but what if it is like catching a falling knife? Only come in when it is moving upwards, even you dont maximise profits, its better than losing money. I have already made money through the ups and downs a few times from 0.265 until it hit 0.305 the last time where I made the mistake of continuosly holding on and losing out on the few cents in between when it dropped to 0.27 cents again. I stress that now is not the time for long term investments due to politics uncertainty. Remember when KLCI was 1500 2 yrs ago? It might be too soon but it could happen again. You want to catch a falling knife? Wear some leather gloves.

not talking down the price, in fact I just sold all mine for 0.28 cents just now. Going to venture other shares and back to vivo in couple mths time. Good luck to you guys!!

I would tell him it already went up so so much until it cannot just go up anymore on news alone. IT needs to wait results for all the won tenders (successfully completed construction without any defects, good quality, etc) and quarterly reports showing healthy and growing ledger. Vivocom is just barely starting in big construction projects which depend on government and China which are both currently in bad shape. So, you want to see up wait till these recover first. When you see these both recover then you see share price up. Especially wait for results on whether Jibby gonna survive the international investigations. If he does, market will go up, if he doesnt, market will be bearish until a new competent PM is found. We are losing FDI currently, US is openly attacking PM too maybe coz working closely with China.

I just checked my maybank online trading account for the fact. The bank value part under my share portfolio states the valuation at 0.138. We are talking about your money here so just be careful.

no, its not that im unhappy with any write ups but i find it a little misleading. ITs aimed at propping up the shares but the fact is the price is dropping. Its not Maybank report lah , you have to call your Maybank broker and ask them directly then they tell you. I wanted to buy T+3 and they rejected it, I asked why and this is what they told and that they needed to get higher approval if I really want to go ahead with this. Guys, don't take me wrong, the time for vivocom will come but it will take months. Everyone that is harping about its going to go up and such, I ask you one thing, I have been here for the past 3 months maybe, what much has happened in the past 3 months? did you see the boom that you guys were talking about? This is what Im saying, be back in reality. I am one of the short to mid term trader/investors not the long term ones. There is indication that the prices are going to drop by market sentiment and lack of purchasing interest. Until that interest is sparked again, just hold on. Market agrees its overpriced right now which is why its not moving upwards.

The bottom limit is getting lower and lower, today was lowest in a few weeks at 0.27 cents, previously the lowest was at 0.276. That blog is referring to break out but fails to mention there is 2 types: positive and negative. The pattern is showing a negative breakout meaning going down. Of coz market is unpredictable, I m just talking bout the technical part.

anyone can bloglah, are you guys so desperate that you are clinging on to any blogs without verifying the sources? I hope the investors are not misled by you guys just becoz you guys bought in at high price and dont want to cut loss. This share is going to be stagnant for months. I hope investors take care and just don't jump in. I am holding since 30 cents and am seeing this hsare going down slowly. Need to cut loss, dont jump in first , see the pattern for a few more weeks then only decide to buy in. Right now, if you buy in, prepare to just park the money without any value. Even Maybank, my bank don't let me buy t+3 without further approval because they value the share at 15 cents. Ask your bankers and see what they tell you if you don't believe me. I just dont want ppl here to be conned.

with prices going down my heart is saying buy but my head is saying no.

its individual preference but just be careful until Jibby issue clears. Previously thought it ended but since now the foreign governments are opening back the issue, general stock market index will be more unstable until this is finally resolved. Please remember that vivocom is highly political affiliated company which is why I am advising caution.

I will probably sell all my Vivo for consumer related shares after CNY.

the wait for big projects might even be 3-5 years from now as oil prices are pushing down government budgets in all angle. Construction is more so affected since its considered luxury. I personally think in these unstable times cut loss and re enter based on solid news.Remember that current share is just worth rm0.04 cents so imagine the drop it will take if something doesnt materialize. If the share price goes up, you might lose the profit but still have the capital but if the share price goes down, your capital that may be used for other gains is lost.

auntieagnes i am a retired teacher and my savings are in vivocom after all the good write up..i am sweating..can anyone advise..thanks



Auntie, these kind of shares to grow will take time. It is also based on market manipulation and can suddenly spike up. As we know, the company is in construction right now, the money wont be rollling in suddenly. Buildings take time to be completed. Also the big projects they are discussing takes time to be ratified and agreed upon. They might succeed or fail. If you are willing to take the risk, then be patient and wait. If not, better cut loss and keep money in FD or something. In share trading, we are always dealing with potential loss to money in expectation for higher returns. You will never know the outcome until it happens or just before it happens unless you have insider information.

Easy, you know what I did? I just focused on the stock itself instead of being drawn into your pointless, endless bickering and name calling, i had enough. Again , im telling you, this is a forum for adults to discuss stocks not for childish name calling. So what, if others want to bait you, just dont respond to themlah. You got real investors keen on news on the stock here, whether its positive or not. Do you see how weewee22 posts. Learn from him. Does he get harrassed by others, no. DO i geet harrassed by others, no. So,Stop being a troll here. By endless responding to them, you are also contributing. Enough of this topic, you can say what you want about me, im no longer gonna respond to you. I want to be a responsible forumer. Like I said earlier a dog barks at me, I bark at it back or shout aat it, ppl will look at me like im crazy not the dog.

If a dog bark at you, you go bark at the dog back. Doesn't it make you look and feel stupid? Sad.

Anyway, Happy Chinese New Year to all the forumers here. May this year bring you great prosperity and good fortune whether you are fanboys or haters altogether. !!!

i hate these spamming. But I think myview, doitanyway and aceofspade deserve to be spammed, repeatedly told them all to just ignore and let this rubbish die out. NO, they want to continue so called retaliation lah, name calling lah, etc. Now this thread full of rubbish everyone elsel lari dy. Good job aceofspade, doitanyway, myview keep it up, this is the end result of all your doing. Come to this thread only see ppl attacking myview and gang but nothing to do with the stock itself. Sigh! Continue fighting lah, you and the spammers are just 2 sides of the same coin to me, same behaviour.

even if it falls to 0.25 cents , for ppl with holding power it is within acceptable scenario lah, everyone knows the share value as of now is rm0.04 cents but it might be re-rated upwards of rm0.30 cents with the awards coming in and all. I dont understand if you know what you saying RIpley, even if the indian already sold his share in public market, no big difference as the price is still hovering around same value, in fact, it would be better if he sold all already as the selling pressure would have been reduced and free for the market to decide which way to head compared to last few weeks. Win win situation, company got the PP capital, indian got his 10
% profit, market price still stable and lesses selling pressure on that constant 0.285 value, better for fluctuations. Remember that the share being sold means someone else bought it, the capital for the company is still there. if the volume so low no one want to buy, then thats the worrisome point. Correct me if im wrong.

yes, you are right. only that in my thoughts the support was at 0.285.

aceofspade, its narrowly coming down not going up, based on one week data. Heavy selling lower than previous weeks low limits of 0.295. Now its hovering at 0.275 on and off. Im just interpreting the chart as it is. If it goes upwards next week, then it is fine, if it lingers around 0.275 low limit, then high potential for new low limit to be at 0.270 or 0.265. Im talking about immediate short term.

littlebull, im thinking of releasing half of my holdings and re enter at lower price.

aceofspade, where do you see and uptrend? its ok to be supportive but false info is a no-no, the stock price is getting lower and lower, does that look like an uptrend? i think we re gonna go downwards to 26.5 again next week. Even all the positive news not helping an inch here, need solid proof not news. have to wait for report, until then its slow downtrend maybe every week drop 1 cent by the way its going now. .

yeah, thats the thing, everytime the price target is changing and reducing; from 70+ cents to 60+ to 50+, I was wondering if it really belongs in the +30 cents segment which would explain why the price is hovering in the current 27-30 cents region.

Maybe because the good news all priced into current value, it could be the stock is overvalued for now but wait 2 years then it will be balanced or go up..

Can someone explain this?
Based on its current construction orderbook of RM2.4bn at 11% net margin with WACC of 9%, the DCF-derived present value of VIHB construction business stands at merely RM0.04 sen per share.

aax got its engine started after so long sleeping but still scary noting how long it was stagnant and how much it dropped. Curious how high it will go now especially when news on oil price going up is becoming more frequent.

Thanks for the info, weewee22.

last minute throw in small volume sell at 0.275 to create bad impression on first day of company name change. Interesting play going on.

yeah, exactly, no reason for the price to drop to 0.275 today when all other shares were going up. Ppl trying to bring this share down. Targeting those panicky traders who will cut loss on the slightest downtrend.

Ringgit edging up, ppl selling dy, haha. I really can't believe this malaysian investors.

Weewee22 Would it make sense if I say that the main reason for the PP was to get cash flow indirectly instead of selling in open market without creating negative market perception? I mean, if the company sells the share via open market, price would drop as market would be suspicious of why company selling own share. If sold to PP holder, PP holder gets to slowly sell off shares to open market and get the 10% profit or more, since PP bought at 0.25 , it would be sold at only higher prices than that so everybody wins. Vivacom doesn't need to worry about share price drop until PP sold off all their shares. In the meantime, positive news will continue to generate interest and +ve prices or stable ones at least.

big fish go after small fish who go for 1 cent profit mah, if small fish have holding power, know by facts that the stock is good, how big fish want to eat small fish? Besides, lets say sell dy for 1 cent profit suddenly stock price go up 5 cent, heartbreak worr..BTW, why u so free create so many fake id troll this page one? salute your effort, damn hard working though for wrong reason and waste time.

LIm123, I don't think its PP taker action. why would PP taker want to limit his profits by just sticking to the same price range to sell? By the way the volume figures are, I can see that its neither ppl selling for profit or ppl cut loss. its just someone manipulating the price, someone with plenty of resources and not interested in the profits. It could be Vivocom's competition you know, to make ppl lose confidence by not allowing the share price to move. I can tell you its not regular market, if it was market, share price could even drop but the stagnant issue is clearly preventing upwards movements. You compare other stock with huge volume also have neg or pos movements.

I have had my doubts earlier as I have always been monitoring the buy sell volume of this share. It seems like someone purposely pressuring and controlling the volume at range 0.285-0.295 for many days. Seems like intentionally manipulating the share price from going up. Thats why volume is always around 130k-150k at this range. If this person or group are so intent maintaining this, then no matter what happen, the share price will remain stagnant unless market decide to swallow the huge volume and move on to next price ranges. But if this person decide to throw the share by selling at lower price again, back to square 0. Please check.

Hopefully, this was last week's new actually

...but damn, this might be true. See Section 8 from here:
https://books.google.com.my/books?id=Aum9BwAAQBAJ&pg=PA23&lpg=PA23&dq=indon+malaysia+landbridge&source=bl&ots=ur-eWOsDT-&sig=jVgoKQpn5oTjHY5_Uk1NnyrwZ00&hl=en&sa=X&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q=indon%20malaysia%20landbridge&f=false

you know how important Malacca straits commerce or not internationally? and want to build landbridge across?

Landbridge from Malaysia, Indon and Singapore, LOL!! You think Indian-Sri Lanka landbridge story huh?

weewee22, I commend you . this is the kind of discussions that I am hoping for in the forum. Productive ones. thanks. Keep up your feedback.

unfortunately, myview is correct. there are so many contra traders in instacom, you can see from the volumes itself. Even aax lower price than instacom can go up 2 sen because not much contra players there compared to here. I dont know why.

because same reason why we all into this share, instaco got strong political ties . Political party need money to recover country economy and also masuk pocket. For this you can't go to big company coz later kantoi, u cant go direct to CRCC, have to go through proxy, guess who's the proxy? And this is why just sit tight and watch the show, I have a feeling by the time dust is settled , in the next 2-3 yrs, Vivocom will be at similar levels with major construction companies. Look at all their former projects, all mostly gov contracts. U think easy get gov contract in Malaysia? Isi pocket baru jalan. Doesn't this let you know how big vivocom cable is to be able to secure so many projects and more projects upcoming?

hey hey hey, don't drag me into this petty arguments, thank you. Im more interested in making money from the share than being a keyboard warrior. Also I believe in knowledge sharing.

weewee22, so you worked as equity analyst before, well thats glad to hear. I m sure you would have proper inputs :) BTW, kcchongz is an experienced trader and I think he blogs on this forum, and malaysiastockbiz.com as well. He does offers trading courses and how to spot (stock picks) via email. I contacted him before but I realized I wanted to learn trading through my own mistakes and experiences.

liveanotherday, i dont know if my reasoning is correct but vivocom will keep getting revenue and profits from current and new projects. Market cap is how they will fund the project; using investor money so more share price increase more capital to fund more projects. This is how they will grow. For us, only buy and sell can get something out of this entire scenario since nothing else for us even though we are funding the company partially so really depend on the share price going up. I just started following the company recently after the free shares/warrants payout so Im talking for those like me. From what I read before, Instaco doesn't have a dividend policy as it is capital dependant company but these could change with new registered name and later on in the year after the projects start to show healthy profits. If they still don't want to adopt rewarding investors, then better just treat it as trading share like right now instead of as long term growth share. Im pretty sure the shares are too far diluted as of now for them to issue more bonuses, free warrants but I could be wrong.

This is good
http://www.theedgemarkets.com/my/article/instacom-rm240m-contract

I think DJ no longer relevant to us or minor only coz most of foreign investment have already sold, the remainder are ones who have faith in malaysian company stocks. The only ones to be of concern is contra players. With their selling at just just half sen or one sen, they refuse to let the stock price grow, if they would be a lil more greedier and take a few cents profit instead of just 0.05 and 1 sen, things will have a different outlook. Based on the charts lah.

And stop with this "skunky" nonsense. it is getting irritating.

Guys, we know theyre going to be banned and removed anyway. Stop being childish, this is not lowyat forum, you guys are regular here so can you stop this attacking remarks whether they deserve it or not? Focus more on facts regarding instaco/vivoco rather than taking things too personally, ktsk88, myview, aceofspade. Sooner or later their comments will disappear. I think they kacau you guys only because they know you are responding to them. If they see you dont take their bait, they will move on somewhere else.

amanahsahamm, careful with your words. You know how these curses work, they backfire on you not the ppl you curse. Bless ppl and the same blessing will be bestowed on yourself. Silly boy.

Friday sure got some more increase till late afternoon. can keep and dispose at Friday afternoon then accumulate back on Monday when stock drops again during Mon-Tue.

Lucky I sold and managed to get back in at .285 last minute today. Hopefully 2.5 cent increase tomorrow :)

The share price is gradually going up, thats the fact, i dont think it will reach .25 anymore unless really bad luck. Prev support was at 0.26, i think the support right now should be around 0.28-0.285. Next when the share price increase, support should be 0.30-0.305. All these drops in between is just contra movements.

mostly all contra players in Malaysia just like China, they depend on the fluctuation of even 1 cent make loads of money and also high risk there too. Thats why China market also in trouble, heavy panic selling. No one really cares about fundamentals in a non dividend paying company.I ask you one thing, if Instaco doesn't pay dividend, why are you here? of course to sell when price is ripe right? We are all traders here lol!!