Posted by kelvin5349 > May 13, 2020 6:04 PM | Report Abuse

firehawk, relax....u just joined this counter is it lol

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join? Ha Ha Ha

u ask some other to join lah :D :D :D

is wise to keep the mother share price @0.17-0.18 ... when ppl do conversion from PA, the need to pay 12sen, actually the co. get substantial amount of extra cash inflow .....

looked like somebody really want to buy @0.02 :-)

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@kelvin，I mean do u know what is the difference between major share holder and ordinary share holder?

ahteck85, another no brainer ... see my comment above! U never doubt why a cash rich fund could deteriorate like a stock, right? u buy a pray for goes up and never think why it down all the way, right?

@Quincy，why don''t you say i even put a date 23 October 2019? I just give a comparison, how a cash rich fund can deteriorate so much like a share, and why London citi sell ... hope you can think deeper, the difference of holding cash and stocks, and why this could happen!

if u don't know, try to Google. :D is

Kelvin, read carefully, he sold until cease to be a major share holder, and no need to report new transaction s Hope u know what is major share holder and ordinary share hold er.

Perfect time to Huat!

https://klse.i3investor.com/blogs/HIBISCS/2020-05-13-story-h1507027609-Major_Shareholders_DISPOSED_Rubberex_REPOST.jsp

pump and dump？

After reading this .... don't want to consider anymore ....

Some said the sand is from Philippines, I think they don't even know where to read the official announcements.

If the co. intends to create fake orders, management can replied to Bursa the sand sites are in Philippines, is very difficult for Malaysia authorities to do investigation outside Malaysia. But now, they replied in Malaysia, Trengganu and Pahang, this draws trust, bcos if anything they submit to bursa is fake, they can be easily checked by SC.

For those said no permit is issued to the co., the reply also clearly address this, the do it through partners, not the co. itself. The best thing is go to read the official co. announcement rather than hearsay.

when they replied to Bursa their sites are in Malaysia (Trengganu, Pahang), i think they gain trust ... in contrast, if they said in Philipines, that may rise a lot of doubt .....

Better buy AGES-PA than all these cold things!!

should allow online gambling ... if u want to holy, why u let the physical Genting operates? if u already let even the physical casino operate, why u ban online gambling? lose a lot of revenue and tax to others!

Vol of PA is higher than mother share NOW!!!

City of London selling probably bcos it can find better return elsewhere .... moreover, NAV of iCap is deteriorating significantly ......

On behalf of the Board of Directors of icapital.biz Berhad, we wish to announcethat the Net Asset Value per share of icapital.biz Berhad as at 23 October 2019was 3.21.

On behalf of the Board of Directors of icapital.biz Berhad, we wish to announcethat the Net Asset Value per share of icapital.biz Berhad as at 25 March 2020was 2.64.

Malaysia should learn from Indonesia!

纯粹是打广告，又不用给广告费，非常聪明！

is very clever! the pandemic will cause many businesses (include hotels, etc.) NG, the advantages is not so lucrative now, he just drop the offer !!!

Using ii method to convert (refer below)!

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Remarks :
The ICPS can be converted into new Ageson Shares at the conversion price of RM0.13 ("Conversion Price") in the following manner:

i. by surrendering 13 ICPS to be converted into 1 new Ageson Share; or

ii. a combination of such number of ICPS and cash with an aggregate value equal to the Conversion Price, subject to a minimum of 1 ICPS surrendered, and paying the difference between the aggregate value of the ICPS surrendered and the Conversion Price in cash for 1 new Ageson Share.

What Philip wrote about a sifu, i totally agree!

a few writers that have deeper observation!

PA is cheaper NOW!

2sen (PA price )+12 (conversiob price) =14sen,

Mother share is 18sen!

so, PA is cheaper now!

The calculation is correct!

There are a few methods to covert, this is the ii method! (refer below)


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Remarks :
The ICPS can be converted into new Ageson Shares at the conversion price of RM0.13 ("Conversion Price") in the following manner:

i. by surrendering 13 ICPS to be converted into 1 new Ageson Share; or

ii. a combination of such number of ICPS and cash with an aggregate value equal to the Conversion Price, subject to a minimum of 1 ICPS surrendered, and paying the difference between the aggregate value of the ICPS surrendered and the Conversion Price in cash for 1 new Ageson Share.

Premised on the terms of the ICPS, the ICPS can be converted into new Ageson Shares at any time within 10 years commencing on and including the date of issue of the ICPS up to and including the maturity date (as indicated above), as determined by the conversion ratio and Conversion Price. Any remaining ICPS that are not converted by the maturity date shall be automatically converted into new Ageson Shares at the conversion ratio of 13 ICPS for 1 new Ageson Share.

If the conversion results in a fractional entitlement to Ageson Shares, such fractional entitlement shall be disregarded and no refund or credit, whether in the form of the ICPS, cash or otherwise, shall be given in respect of the disregarded fractional entitlement.

If the maturity date of the ICPS falls on a non-market day, then it will fall on the preceding market day.


This announcement is dated 18 March 2020.

@DK66, no lah, i only speak generally,

for eaxample, if a person have a position, he may tell the good facts ... if a person want to take a position he may tell the bad facts .....

actually those good and bad, are also facts, really!

the above example is only one of many, just general speaking, dun take it too personally.

there are good facts
there are bad facts

some facts are better leaved if untold .....

so, is 26sen a good offer now?

Posted by TA_trader > Apr 5, 2020 6:33 PM | Report Abuse

suddenly dumb dumb icon silent, but busy commenting about collecting other counters.

==》ya lor， like in Affin forum :D

Now, gone to JAKS forum to earn reputation. In that forum, if u said something good, will get great praise ... sure way to take advantage!

I appreciate yr open mind in accepting comments, and the patient on entertaining the comments, salute!

:-) :-) :-)

Perfect storm?

similarly, regardless JHDP paying or not paying dividend to JAKS, the profit reporting itself has direct impact on share price.

Actually the 30% or 50% reporting has significant impact,
1. the amount is in the quantum of 100m.
2. the P&L report summary appears as the cover of announcement to Bursa, it will catch public investors eyes.
3. this profit is real profit, it can be used for EPS, P/E ... calculation.

if continue for 3 yrs, it surely affects the stock valuation, lke P/E etc. ... many ctrs in bursa, although not paying dividend, as long as report profit, the price can sustain, not to say a very good profit.

@DK66, i post 3x, not success ... don't know what wordings i should change, lazy to type again ... no big deal :D

you ban me? :D

DK66, strangely, i can't post under yr article

@OTB, it could affect P&L report ....

I come across, a company declares dividend for preference share but no dividend for ordinary share, thus, i infer the dividends could be different. Maybe i'm wrong ....

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Posted by DK66 > May 2, 2020 12:48 PM | Report Abuse

Firehawk, it is made clear that the dividend will be the same

moreover, ordinary share and preference share could have different dividend.

From my understanding, Preference Share would not share the profit (unless it is converted to ordinary share), but entitle for dividend. Maybe i'm wrong .....

Tq.
So, the profit sharing is not distributed according to the ownership at this period?

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Posted by DK66 > May 2, 2020 11:22 AM | Report Abuse

firehawk, cpecc gets 70% of profit immediately after COD

Sorry for making u confuse, the question should be,

How about the profit sharing of 3 years immediate from COD?

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firehawk, you are welcome

NO, CPECC get 70% of the profit NOW

How about 3 years immediate from COD?

DK66, Tq for yr article. Refer to below statement from yr article,

CPECC can only convert the RCPS into voting shares 3 years after commercial operation of the power plant to gain 70% control of JPP. For now, CPECC and Jaks have equal control over JHDP.


Is this mean that 3 yrs immediate following COD (not beyond 3 yrs after COD), CPECC and Jaks both have 50% equity in JHDP?

How about the profit sharing? also shared equally within the 3 year after COD?

@OTB, Thank you for the add-on, actually i don't expect answers, thanks for yr merit.

1. I don't think the management has conducted the briefing, if it has been done, IBs will issue updated report on the new developments, some even just cut and paste the info. given, i think u know these better than me. Since the official announcement of 93% completion ended last year, I feel they are not enthuse to share the developement.

2. yes, the power plant is real, i think many also hope it will COD ASAP. The last cycle (when kyy was in) i didn't join, bcos it was so blur then, but i have been following the development on and off, I only joined in Oct last year (thanks DK66 writing too). Did kyy meet the management before (in AGM?) (just want to find out their investment relationship).

3.yes, many retailers invested in this ctr, besides your subcribers, this can also be seen in the i3 stocks picked competition 2020, JAKS in the most favor ctr! right? this could be a reason why operator not willing to push up the price. Doesn't the condition now much better than a month before? I think now u should be less stressed. :-)

Actually operator also has his dilemma, the last 2 weeks, my feeling is, although price is lagging, operator not dare to push the price too low to avoid ppl buying more ..... :D this could be the COD comes nearer. (Normal manipulating art is, pushing up the price and then announce good news :D) (TA wise, what the pattern indicates, i think many ppl know better than me. :D)

Good luck!

Today, almost whole market sizzling, but not Jaks ..... in situation like this, sure a lot of unsatisfactory emotions ......

Many point to otb .... is that the real reason? maybe ... the bigger picture is, not only today, the price of Jaks is manipulated everyday for months, may be a year! there are many puzzles behind ......

The 1st question is, is this a reasonable a very bright prospect co. that COD around the corner should selling at this price? One of the reasons the price depressed is no institutional fund investing, institutional fund not buying is bcos IBs do not give a good rating, IBs do not cover the Hao Duong plant is bcos management does not not give official briefing to them to announce the prospect of the plant in Vietnam. IBs cannot initiate the writing of the Vietnam project without official calling ...... Without IBs covering, not likely institutional funds will consider ......

Management keep quiet amid the COD would start in months time (can only be considered as rumor, at this junction), Actually, the management keep quiet most of the time, this rise doubt .... sometimes i'm thinking is something not right in this Alibaba's type of cooperation? The power plant is actually controlled by Chinese (70% vs 30%, as present), moreover, all the technologies , expertise .... even the financial sources are controlled by Chinese ..... Alibaba's type of cooperation is common in Malaysia, bcos, it has gov encouraging ..... but in Vietnam? the Chinese partners? are they willing to let you earn free money?

When i think maybe management has "untold" (cannot tell openly) difficulties, I find that, amid the blur situation, prices are wildly manipulated. I used to own both mother share and WA, when WA price is low I buy WA (has higher gearing) when WA price is high, I sell the WA and buy the mother share, WA premium varies from 27/28% to 51/52% .... when I doing this, I found that someone are manipulations of both mother share and WA prices, surely, traders can feel this very real .... the prices are "fixed" by operator! :D

The blur situation + without institutional funds, is a very ideal environment for manipulation ........

Why a very bright prospect co. that COD around the corner should selling at this price? more and more doubts lingering in my mind .... i think it over and over, the power plant is so real, the pictures, the news from CEEC website, Vietnamese gov news ..... it will COD, despite delay, when COD comes, the co. surely will have an official announcement, then everything will be clear .... the COD, rumor half year ago, would operate in March, then delays to April, May, June ..... (actually the official date given by Vietnamese gov. is Dec. :D) The delay provides more time for operators manipulate ..... but the COD will finally come true, right?

I recall 2 years ago, how the price manipulated from 1.40 to 0.40, this even caused a tycoon margin all and loss, but now, operator is short of time doing this, right?

(p/s, the sooner announcement would be the QR, but due to MCO, QR also can be delayed, right? this also delay the investors to receive official information. :D)

whole market is sizzling .... except this one ;-(

whole market is sizzling ... except this one :-(