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2014-11-28 14:35 | Report Abuse
So let's go back to the stock shall we? Second q results IMHO is profitable yes but definitely not good lor.... What I understand is Dsonic supposed to supply 10mil Mycards over 2 years right? So this q bad, coming quarters better? EPS annualised around 5 cents PE 20 = 1.00 or PE25 = 1.25 or whatever PE you prefer lah my assumptions correct ah? If correct, short term wise is bad but longer term depends on new catalysts? I am still holding because my first reason to buy this company still there..... The cables... I know to some that doesn't make sense..... It's ok hehehe I know I have a lot to learn...... I even bought Airasia few years ago simply because the staff told me they were getting record bonus hehehe.... One thing I learned here probably is I should put a little more emphasis on TA may be? Now that the q results please share your thoughts TQVM...
2014-11-28 13:50 | Report Abuse
I think most of us here if not all are reasonable people..... We will listen and appreciate if your suggestions be it positive or negative make sense..... But we have to remember this a public forum with anonymous members..... There are always supporters AND naysayers for each and every counter..... To decide who is right or wrong or who to listen to will be the most difficult part.... Someone will be right and some one will be wrong all the time...... BUT BUT BUT please leave the sarcasm, ridicule, personal attacks or worse adding salt to the wounds out..... Yes, I always argue and might not agree most of the times but I do so respectfully...... So, YES thank you all for your kind and sincere advice.... Sincerely....
2014-11-28 12:44 | Report Abuse
Basically you are all here JUST because you are all nice and want all members here to sell and buy whatever you recommend right?? Understood!! Noted!!! You are right!!! You are great!!! BUT BUT BUT please spare the sarcasm, ridicule and personal attacks!!!! When people do that to you, you get angry right?? And yet this is what I see most of the time here...... What is it now?? Pay back time is it??? Ok if not this then please tell what are you all trying to do???? All people sell Dsonic??? All people stop posting??? All people call you sifu??? All people buy what you recommend??? All people must listen to you?? Let's go straight to the point like a MAN please because I really don't know....
2014-11-28 12:32 | Report Abuse
Aiya, enough lah.... Sorry my England very teruk one any hidden point there besides sarcasm and ridicule?? Let's focus on the stocks rather than the members can ah? I really don't know what you all want leh??
2014-11-27 19:00 | Report Abuse
Ya Prosperous, all the best...... So another Director "transferred" shares...... I wonder why leh...... Come on directors, can you all tell a bit lah hehehe....
2014-11-27 17:34 | Report Abuse
Hi Prosperous, my average started with 1.825.... added a little bit a few times plus a little now my average now is still around 1.75 lor..... like what I said I ikan bills only lah limited funds add also a bit a bit only hehehe.... Don't mind to add more if the trend stabilises a bit or get some good news like good results or contract but so far it's a bit disappointing sigh.....
2014-11-27 17:11 | Report Abuse
if great results obviously is possible although I can"t say with 100% certainty and I don"t think anyone can..... I will be adding more if good results.... results good meh?
2014-11-27 16:12 | Report Abuse
The more sellers queue, the more buyers will queue..... like there are two sharks fighting hehehe..... if some of you already got the q results I am sure the sharks got it too.... I think most are 'expecting' a much lower profit..... the question is if they know then who is buying or at least queuing big to buy?? Just to give false sense of support to lure buyers? Or they know something we don"t and genuinely collecting?....... Trade at own risk......
2014-11-27 14:04 | Report Abuse
Aiyoyo, thanks for the well wishes..... like what I said most people will not believe what they read here 100% without doing their own research...... the occasion you mentioned was one of the typical "cry wolf" scenarios....... You see, when a person goes to every thread to tell people to sell, what do you think of it lah?? Anyway , I wish you good luck too and hope you make money....
2014-11-27 13:56 | Report Abuse
Another thing is come on lah..... there are hundreds of comments posted here everyday on this thread alone in this free and open for all forum...... Do you all really expect everyone here to read and believe your comments 100% without even seeing or knowing you?? Some of you keep telling people here do not trust anyone here remember??? But keep telling people that they should have listened to you????? Do you even see the irony there? Ok, now sure you have made the right call in this instance but come here and tell people "you should have done this" or "you should have listened to me" is not gonna change anything now right? Unless you can turn back time...... In share trading sometimes we make and sometimes we lose..... whatever it is, we learn something everytime and we move on..... Keep saying or thinking "I should have or not done something then" or "you should have listened to me" when there is nothing you can do now to change the past is a total waste of time.......
2014-11-27 13:43 | Report Abuse
Ok I don't recall I "laugh" at anyone here..... I argue all the time yes hehehe but "laugh" NO lah..... If I remember correctly you said RSI 0 so better sell,,,,, Then I asked normally we should sell at RSI 0 or RSI 100..... I mentioned many times that I know shits about TA that's why I asked that question......Why don't you check again and see which part of my posting was laughing at you.....
2014-11-27 13:30 | Report Abuse
Aiyoyo, 0.50 is still expensive based on? This is a sincere question, I would be grateful if you can share thank you very much......
2014-11-27 13:04 | Report Abuse
Agreed that it's on downtrend and only god knows where the bottom is.....
Agreed that there are 101 ways or styles of trading and objectives so there is no point arguing who is right and who is wrong....
Agreed that this coming quarter results won't be as good as expected.... how bad I am not sure because I don't know any insiders personally and based on the reactions so far I am guessing it will still be profitable but much lower than last quarter...... remember though the Mycard ordersare are spread over two years and not fixed numbers for every quarter, so coming quarters gonna be better?
Agreed that fundamental is not the main reason I bought this counter but the cable or connection is, like what nokia highlighted..... Had a "good chat" too with Sun sometime ago hehehe.... in fact I mentioned more than once what I concern most is new contracts especially Fuelsubs more than anything else....
Agreed that without any new catalyst eg: a new contract, better than expected financial results, dividens or others the price is not going anyway unless some sharks decide to pump and dump.....
I am not saying that the company is in trouble in fact far from it because it has some nice contracts with the government which lasts at least two more years AND the company has been profitable for many quarters already..... I have been adding although just peanuts in the eyes of many here I know hehehe..... but with no obvious signs where te bottom is, no one can keep averaging down indefinitely lor...... and I suspect many like me are waiting for it to stabilise or bottom out before taking the next move.... I supposed all eyes now are on the quarter results tomorrow...... the results will dictate the sentiment at least for a few days next week..... in my humble and amateur opinion, trade at own risk.....
2014-11-26 23:16 | Report Abuse
Aiyo...... Dsonic downtrend now, noted! Pav's calls were off his estimates, noted! You all made some good calls, noted! Dsonic's coming quarter result could be below expectation, noted! I made wrong calls all the time too lah hehehe.....
So can let it go and move on lah shall we please?
2014-11-26 16:49 | Report Abuse
Sorry I thought OPEC meeting supposed to be tomorrow?? No? Cancelled already or what?
2014-11-25 13:43 | Report Abuse
If it's that simple all people with "good" software will become rich and god of trading in no time cause the odd is 100%.... please recommend such software here thanks.... sincerely I will be grateful but my boss won't because I no need to work already hehehe.
2014-11-25 13:16 | Report Abuse
Ok I am not 100% sure dsonic has bottomed out. Tell something in share trading that has 100% certainty....
2014-11-25 11:11 | Report Abuse
2 trends keep happening recently, first is price up slightly in the first 2 hours and then down down down or price down then up slightly then down down down......... Second is new lows..... Just hope this "curse" will be broken soon hehehe..... Thought I got my buy bid yesterday but it u-turn..... Anyway still happy that it went up hehehe....
2014-11-23 17:29 | Report Abuse
Hmmm..... Very interesting.... Very similar story so may be similar solutions hehe?? Thanks Pav...
2014-11-22 17:59 | Report Abuse
Aiya so based on the report oil price drops no subsidy, oil price up got subsidy.... i think there will not be any blanket subsidy for everyone anymore..... When they talk about fuel subsidy from now on is referring to the subsidy for lower income group....... So how much each and every deserved person gets depends on income and oil price again if I understand correctly..... Higher oil price, more subsidy..... We really need a system that is flexible enough to cater for the change of oil price, change of income level or change of income threshold if they decide to revise in the future..... I wonder who has the expertise or likely to get the contract when they decide to implement it......
2014-11-21 22:32 | Report Abuse
Thanks Coldwar for the update.....Let them study first lor.... Hope is not all lost lah based on the above right? Something interesting based on what was posted on Paultan.... It says based on the average oil price from the first 2 weeks of Nov the RON95 should be priced at 2.27 against 2.30 now..... The question is, the oil price hit the lowest during that time right if I remember correctly? If true, it was only 3 cents lower? Now oil price has gone just above usd80.... Do we expect our fuel price to go down comes DEC? Don't forget unsubsidised price for RON95 is rm2.43.....
2014-11-21 21:10 | Report Abuse
Please don't get me wrong, I am all against subsidies because there will be wastage, unhealthy competition, complacency blah blah blah.... but do you think we are ready for zero subsidies now? Again I am not an expert and what we say here is not gonna change what the government plans to do..... question is, will they do it? If I decide to run then you vote for me lah then I promise to remove all subsidies ok?
2014-11-21 21:01 | Report Abuse
So we think it's good news and the price will go lower comes 1st Dec? For the sake of everyone I hope so too. Let's wait and see lor hehehe.... no point arguing about that now....
On a different note... there are people love to prove that they are right so they are better than you...... these people will appear every time the share price drops and say "see, I told you so"..... if they are only happy when others suffer let them be lah.... in fact I will say this now "sifu , you are RIGHT! Sorry for not listening to you earlier.. you are amazing! You must be very rich now because you are very good!!!!" Happy? If not, please let me know ah I will come up with something better ok? Or you just tell me what you want lah ok? Otherwise ok lah you have proven that you are right during this downtrend ok? If the price eventually goes up, are you wrong then? So every downtrend you ate right and every uptrend I am right?? Anyway ok lah ok lah, you win this time....
On another different note hehehe.... again of course in a "perfect" world, no conflict, no subsidy whatsoever ok? So the poor got no help... they work hard 2jobs 3 jobs so eventually all make it???? Poor students, cannot get scholarship? No problem one, just study harder and eventually ALL of the become top students and get scholarship lah.. who needs scholarship man... you go out for roti canai kosong rm5, why? Sorry essential food items not subsidised anymore.... nasi campur rm20.... go see doctor for flu rm80, why ah? Sorry no medicine subsidy or tax break anymore.... for poor people, wah cars so expensive one? Who needs car man, just walk or take public transport lah, but wait..... shit the station is 5km away!!??? So? After buying a car, oh shit have to pay insurance, petrol, tolls, maintenance......... so, my beloved government since I voted for you or if you expect me to vote for you pleaseeeeeee gives me subsidies..... or you raise the minimum wage in Malaysia to rm5000 lor ok?
The point is, there is the less fortunate, under-privilaged, less well off group in every country...... so you say let charity takes care of the under-privilaged lah.... ok let say this country charity lso good ah they take of it although I don't charity efford alone can handle it.... what about the people who are born with 180 IQ, people who are unable to get higher education?? All work hard and ALL succeed ?? If all succeed meaning no one is poor?? Of course I hope, pray and wish it will happen man...... is that even possible? I am sure there are countries close to it but how far you we are from zero poverty......
Anyway, I am not an economist..... imho only....
2014-11-21 17:49 | Report Abuse
I think blanket subsidy to fuel and subsidy to lower group are two different things leh. No subsidy to fuel doesn't mean sure no subsidy to help lower income group.... It 's all up to them whether they want to give or not...... Just my opinion....
2014-11-21 17:43 | Report Abuse
Aiya ok ok understood government please remove all subsidies now so we can all strive to be better hehehe.... I am sure all will agree wan....
2014-11-21 17:32 | Report Abuse
Sifu Optimushuat back. He has predicted 0.05 cents for Dsonic on Monday. Why didn't you tell earlier lah sifu cause I just added at 1.42 aiya..... Never mind lah I will q on Monday slightly higher at 0.10 lah then.
2014-11-21 17:11 | Report Abuse
Sunztzhe, you are referring to an ideal, perfect societyand I agreed 100% ideally there should not be any subsidy at all but we are not quite there yet. No offence but whether you like it or not that's exactly what certain circles of our society is expecting, government help!! Of course I am not sure whether what will happen in the end. Try to tell the lower income group now there will not be any subsidy for them and God knows what will happen. Whether the government is giving out subsidy out of social obligation or just to win vote I don't know.... Even developed countries like US and Europe have to give unemployment benefits... What don't they tell the people that they cannot get a job is their problem and they better bring themselves up.... Like what I said, now nobody complains when the oil is cheap but let's see what happens when the oil price recovers...... Trade at own risk....
2014-11-21 16:46 | Report Abuse
When they subsidize the fuel, people say government got no money. Now they took this opportunity when oil price is low to remove it completely. So they will have more money right? Car price very expensive in Malaysia they claimed because they say fuel is subsidized. Unless they lower the car price drastically otherwise they still need to subsidize the low income car owners, no? Which scenario you think is more likely? Now everyone happy because the oil price is cheap but when it goes back up what happen then? No more subsidy already you know? Anyway not a buy or sell call....
2014-11-19 16:54 | Report Abuse
Good close..... Last minute buying again... If directors bought more today tomorrow gap up again?? Hehehe.... One thing is the volume is still a bit errrr uninspiring hehehe..... Hopefully tomorrow volume up price up hehe...... Trade at own risk....
2014-11-19 11:36 | Report Abuse
Sorry typo *free or paid" hehehe...
2014-11-19 11:35 | Report Abuse
Thanks guys/gals for all the updates as usual....... There you have it folks, at the end of this month probably...... It might happen or might not.... But if you choose to believe it and make decisions based on what you read here, then please don't start shooting people or the messengers here lah... Even my sifu also know "no free lessons" here like what he posted recently.........We cannot expect every piece of info or rumours we get here in a free open forum to be 100% accurate lah, in fact if you know such forum exists be it free or unpaid please do share here because I will be the first one to join hehehe..... Otherwise I "would like to believe" that we are close to the announcement.... Btw, that was a good call and congrats idonlikechigik and sateman..... I envy and wish the CA can go way above 20cents hehehe...... Huat ah....
2014-11-18 23:30 | Report Abuse
So if transactions done in Singapore it can delay further? I didn't know that. Thanks for the info big mama, oshit, opti and err did I miss anyone?
2014-11-18 21:45 | Report Abuse
Thanks ohshit, we all here always appreciate info sharing wan.... If you don't mind to share the links which say the directors are dumping until siao liao..... Thank you in advance....
2014-11-18 21:39 | Report Abuse
Thanks coffeecup....
Conspiracy corner.......
Normally they buy they announce on same day right? Why this time waited one more day? May be he wanted to buy more at cheaper price? May be he knew if he announced yesterday then today would fly already? So tomorrow gap up??? Wahahaha!!!!! :p oops I got carried away hehehe..... Sorry sorry.... Anyway it's good right that he bought...
2014-11-18 21:20 | Report Abuse
I no good at TA lah.... Normally if you are interested to buy a particular stock, would you buy at RSI 0 or RSI 100 ah??
2014-11-18 20:24 | Report Abuse
There are many good hearted people here want share info but I suspect they cannot reveal the full details in a public forum "ahead of time" if you know what I mean.... Once a while they drop by to give a hint or two.... Of course it's up to you who or what info you want to believe..... I think CBB buying is definitely a strong hint of something good coming soon.... Anyway that is what I believe..... Some might even think it's a trap..... So as usual lah trade at own risk" lor hehehe....
2014-11-18 19:27 | Report Abuse
Serre04, thank you.
Ahdi, thanks for the tip last week. Please share if got more info If you don't mind.. Appreciate it.
2014-11-18 18:41 | Report Abuse
CBB is finally buying again hehehe..... I also buying like mad mah last few days although slightly lesser than him............. Ok ok much lesser than him hehehe.... No wonder it behaved slightly differently these two days hehehe... Who was the handsome that mentioned directors would start buying last week? Sorry my memory getting worse getting older already hehehe..... Anyway to all sincerely a BIG thank you for sharing info, updates, rumours, news, speculations, gossips :) . You guys/ gals are the best hehehe...
2014-11-18 18:33 | Report Abuse
Thanks slater, appreciate the info. Cheers.
2014-11-18 11:49 | Report Abuse
Yes Sateman hopefully.... so far only my killer look works but my killer instinct always wrong hehehe... anyway just wondering whether the directors have started buying.... any idea within how long after a director buys ot sells that he must inform or declare to Bursa?
2014-11-18 10:36 | Report Abuse
Hmmm..... Feel a little different today and actually started at the end of yesterday's session but don't really know how to describe it cause never good in TA hehehe.... Just feel like today people are that much more willing to buy.... More people come earlier to queue.... Average volume so far a little higher than last few days.... Just feel like there are more "urgency" to buy..... Is this the bottom we all have been waiting for hehehe??? Turning point??? Anyway just my Ikan bilis amateur opinion and wondering anyone felt the same way? I always wrong anyway and probably is just my wishful thinking, or my hangover?? Hehehe...
2014-11-17 13:06 | Report Abuse
I also join the fun lah hehehe but sorry you have to find the answers yourselves loh cause I no expert lah hehe....
Do you think lower oil price is better for economy? What about for a country that exports oil like Malaysia?
Oil price has been down for some time and why RON97 which is supposed to free float and follow market price no change one?
Now they say IF oil price drops to below USD75 they "may" drop the fuel price, WHAT? Drop below USD75 and stil "may be" will drop ah?
If I read and remember correctly, now they say if oil price stays low, GDP would be affected... IF that is true, then cheap oil is bad for Malaysia? Does it mean they lose more money when oil price gets lower? IF yes, they are kind enough to lower oil price some more to benefit all which means even lesser income for them? Will they maintain the fuel price or reduce it just a bit and introduce Fuelsubs then? I also don't know woh hehehe...... Anyway just food for thoughts lah and again no answers sorry hehehe..... Trade at own risk....
2014-11-16 09:54 | Report Abuse
So it's always somebody's fault but not our own..... Human nature.... I feel sorry for guy IF the story is true..... The first rule I learned when I started trading was to use only money that you could keep aside for some time for trading and of course borrowed money a BIG no no.... I really wish every single one of us will make money but when you trade short term then someone's gain is someone's loss and "zero sum" applies.... Trade at own risk.... Your money your call....
2014-11-15 21:35 | Report Abuse
Good point, don't listen to people you don't know or don't trust here............
2014-11-14 16:57 | Report Abuse
Come on come on 1.51 come on hehe...
2014-11-14 16:52 | Report Abuse
Huggy, based on historic reports, the q results will be announced at the end of NOV. based on the consensus so far we are expecting a lower profit compared with previous quarter. By how much I really don't know but kind of hoping it still above 20 mil....
2014-11-14 16:50 | Report Abuse
Idonlikechigik, it's ok.... We are all in this love and hate relationship with Dsonic hehehe....
2014-11-14 16:45 | Report Abuse
Ya 2767max thanks for the info.... I thought I read somewhere that ways POS submitted Fuelsubs proposal with other 7 companies but earlier report said expecting 77 from the open tender....
2014-11-14 16:41 | Report Abuse
Ok lah, close above 1.50 pleasssseeeee.....above 1.50..above 1.50....above 1.50......above 1.50 come on Dsonic YESSSS hehehe.... Sorry I got carried away again hehe...
Stock: [DSONIC]: DATASONIC GROUP BERHAD
2014-11-28 14:42 | Report Abuse
Anyway so far the price seem to be stable after the results.... Probably most already dumped in the morning of days before since most sharks or insiders already knew way before..... Now left the smaller players like me hehe.... Anyway it might take a few days to see the full "effect" of the report..... How bad do you think it is?