bros, I come across a financially fundamentally strong and super undervalue coy call Xidelang Holdings. I track this counter a couple of months ago when I notice is financial is very good. That time its share price was only 0.30 and recently has increase >100% to 0.60 but is still undervalue. The only think that stops me from investing on this coy a couple of months ago was due to the coy is a china-based coy and many not good rumors have been spread up due to some other china-based coy which manipulated the accounts.

Wish to hear any comments from you all if u have come across this company.

Love this group coz having the same thinking and very positive mindset and persistent attitude from Assam, chinesetea , chrollo and tewnama. Our portfolio should be giving us good returns in this year. Does make a quick gain today and thanks to Assam for introducing this counter to me and Chinesetea for his awesome information about this rising star counter.

MKH is definitely a potential counter but CPO prices now is moving towards a downtrend for the past 1 month till now which breaks some confident on many investors to push up the price. Lets park some in and wait for the CPO price to regain back momentum, by then MKH will be flying high.

Bros I didn't sell all only half coz earlier I bought at 3.90++ then today manage to login lower for average but then take chance to sell at 4 on half of it I im still holding 40lots and will not sell until it reach over 50% or more return. Hold for longer term. I buy today coz I notice the buyer support is high and this had happen in the first free fall before and rebounded strongly.

Bro assam im not rubber king haha but im in this industry for quite a number of yrs so I know the flow of the latex price and its impact. I do not have exp on property and glad to learn so much from you and chinesetea. Sharing is good and hope all of us here will prosper in 2014. Eco has strong support and thanks to Chinesetea kept reminding us.

chrollo I have told u earlier rubber price is falling sharp. But the market now is having heavy selling for the whole week. So is good to pick. Take note not only on glove industry but also on karex. Buy in when u see a change back from the current downtrend. Condoms use rubber as well.

A rebound will come next week , Maybank changes view today as reported by the edge from Neutral to overweight on glove industry driven by the latex price sharp fall. Hold on tight after the over sales.

S&P500 is gaining heights ytd while KLCI continue to fall. Is foreign investor moving out back to overseas market bit by bit? 2014 startup doesn't seems good till now for KLCI. Most counters are red. Bros get ready to pull out if it fall below ur threshold don't let it wipe all ur profit can always buy back in at lower.

The more those basher bash the counter the higher the big bosses will push back up lolx. They fail to understand the benefits of a low free float counter. Bought high earlier but average it out today buy buying in lower at 3.60 I sold half at 4.030 still holding half but already gain few k for ang pow money to give to the kids and relatives. ^^ Thanks Eco world.

Guess many basher of this counter doesn't know the meaning of low free float shares counter benefits. 40cents gain in an hour. Ang pau for CNY thanks Eco.

Bought additional ecoworld at 3.60 today and rebounce back to RM 4. Bros we are right on what we believe lolx. 40 cents gain within hours. Love low float shares big shot pushing back in when many talk nonsense in the forum.

That's how I earn ^^ Assam & chinesetea bros , we are right on track

chrollo, retained earnings is the earnings c/f year after year , you can find it from the balance sheet under the shareholders equity. That's the earnings use to declare dividends.

Assam bro thanks for the insight on pres. One question bro why you say is the cheapest education stock, can elaborate further bro? Not familiar in this industry , r u comparing with other competitors, it seems pres is monopolizing and is the largest IT education training center in Msia. Looking for a correction and buy in.

Btw appreciate to hear some comments from u guys opinion on prestariang, want to buy it longggg ago but still yet to make any moves, duno why. Still potential? I love its numbers and its uptrend charting. I know is the largest IT training centers in msia.

Good persistency and believes from Chinesetea and assamlaksa on Eco. At first I was reluctant to buy as I felt this counter only past 2/4 from the 4R test. Right business and right management but somehow haven't had good earnings to support the right numbers and the High PE fails on the Right price.

Anyhow I still bought in 40 lots at somewhere high at RM 3.98 and still on hold. This counter has been on radar tracking for big sharks mostly using Liew's name to make believe on it but somehow my instinct tells me that a property king tycoon will never forgo his son and will always paste a good path for his son as his next successor.

This counter need to be hold for long , half to a year or even two to see good results. Will top up some more if it drops further to leverage out my initial higher price. Lets stop looking at it and comes back in half a year to see it .

Joec hold it longer, ur buying a business it has been up for a few days before it drops so is normal as some short term traders takes profit. As long as the coy fundamental is strong , external factor is in favor there is nothing to worry about. Don't play contra , this value stock means u need to hold it for months and even years. Treat it like in FD but giving u much more returns compare to FD. Keep yourself on track of its news and follow it closely then u need not worry. Stock will always go up and down with news but value stocks will always grow when the coy grows.

JoeC why upset, u play contra?

your welcome bro chrollo, lets share out whatever stock information that we have in future in this group so we could assist one another to maximize our return in 2014.

If can I would suggest to name out and vote the best counter for each segments/industry that we would think that it could be the best performer in that particular industry in 2014. Need to support with facts if you voted it using the 4RS as mentioned above on why you think it will perform the best. Bring out facts for argument, the more question asked the better understanding on that stock would be.

Wonder this help coz I believe more brains of thinking is better then one sometimes we might be blinded to the one we think I repeat the word is we "think" from ourselves. Good to listen to more comments.

For example best performer property counter in 2014 ; ecoworld some sort like this.
Once selected highest vote means majority agreed, guess possibility is higher and better returns, can focus more bullets on it rather then being too diversified and limiting returns. Just a suggestion.

Bro assam, i guess for IOI prop, is another day of speculation tomorrow , but I guess this is the youngest son show time, dad should be placing a good road for him. Yea will play a little. Hopefully not ended up like Titi. The backup should be stronger under IOI.

Oh yea one more as for right business, I love to go on regular use and will not phase off products over time, never fails u, see nestle? Karex , condom , Kossan gloves, I love all this counters , u know why im a hardcore kossan fan now ? hehe. Karex if u have extra bullet hit in coz I love Durex.. haha. Biggest world condom manufacturer. Don't eye this off from your radar.

Chrollo saw something u ask on ur earlier mail on how to access good value counters.
I love sharing and hope below helps;
Learn from 8th investment (Warrant buffet value investing ways)
4Rs.
1) Right Business
2)Right Management
3)Right numbers (Financially fundamentally strong)
4)Right price ( Undervalue stocks)

Screen through ur portfolio with this 4 ways and ask yourself each time with this 4 questions and you mostly on the right track for good returns.

Example, ecoworld, 1) Right business? Currently might not be due to some slowdown on the property sectors but property will never dies off especially on the booming Iskandar area. Everyone is eyeing on it. So massive competitiveness over there.

2) Right management? No doubt u have the best property developer team in Eco.

3) Right numbers? Promising but haven't seen the report and earnings. Massive plan with massive $ injection but still have yet to realized.

4) Right numbers.. this goes to all the ROE, GP margin, Gearing ratio, PE ratio, Dividend yields, I personally love to see growth on revenue and earnings on a year to year basis. High ROE adds greatly to it comes with high dividends payout. Love Matrix numbers ( investors attraction)

5)RIght price- undervalue or overvalue? when is the right time to buy. Need to compute its intrinsic value using discounted cash flow method. Not pro on this but P/E ratio and PEG ratio simplifies it.


That's how I analysed each counter I had.

Moving average 50 days compare to moving average 150days is good too if you are a short term investor, a chart which tells you when to sell and when to buy in.

Anyone looking at Perisai, heard some news that there is going to be some good announcement around May'14 , source from CIMB but I notice some directors are selling some shares out for the past 2 weeks. That's why I notice on matrix too before it slump to 3.30 when the GM started to sell off massively.

Hi bros any ways I could click on this forum in the fastest way? If I want to get back to this forum I have to search it from the social forum one by one.

Madguy, is an optimistic view and personal opinion. Looking into 3 factors as the 9th month 2013 earning results are great and Alliance research house has raise is P/E from 16x to 18x in par with Harta to derived at a TP of 4.82. 3 risk factors or booster depends on which way it goes;
1) Rebound of latex price, current is showing downtrend so if price goes further down would be definitely great advantage for it.
2) Appreciating of USD against Ringgit. With the continuous and high possibility of the QE tapering in US, USD would be getting stronger against Ringgit, hence another factor that seems higher possibility to boost further earnings
3) Expansion from other industry players, this is the thing you have to watch closely as other industry players are equally good and aggressive with great management team as well.
Madguy, this stock is for long term holding, it is not for short term speculation. Your asking whether the price will go up I'm optimistic with it from the current external factors and its aggressive expansion from its management. Please don't follow blindly, do your own research and see whether is makes sense to you. Buying stock is like owning its business, you have to look it for a longer term and its future prospect.

Chinesetea TP 8.20? haha

Kossan share price appreciated by 156% follow by Harta 51% and Supermax 43% and Topglove drop 2% in 2013. Kossan share splitted and since splitted still on an upward momentum and growing strongly awaiting for final quarter results. With its strong growth and aggressive expansion on its nitril glove line together with external supporting factors such as the continuous high possibility of strengthening on USD against Ringgit at the coming 1st quarter of FY2014 driven by the US QE tappering and the downtrend price on latex, where would it be heading towards? Will it strive back to its original price before split, I'm optimistic with it. My personal view and risk is on your own.

09/01/2014 15:08

For those who miss out the top 10 stocks to watch for 2014. Here it goes;http://www.thestar.com.my/Business/Business-News/2014/01/04/10-stocks-to-watch-in-2014-1-Gadang-Holdings-Bhd-3-Eco-World-Development-Group-Bhd-4-Daya-Materials/

Guys what do u see about IOI Property coming into list next week? A lot of news lately and advertising the retirement of Tan sri lee and taking over by his two sons. Elder one will be IOI corp and younger IOI property.

Don't forget this coy shares have 65% growth on annual basis as per mentioned earlier from the star top 10 hot stocks to watch for in 2014. Without the plantation earning, is already gaining a 65% growth per annum , what would it be in 2014 if the plantation earnings kicks in? You guess. My personal opinion and risk is on your own.

Regretted till now didn't follow u in at 3.30 just days before it starts the engine. I still recall u highlight it greatly on Matrix blog. Anyhow ECO will be a great stock in 2014, eco = wood and its a property counter, perfect combination.

Bro assm, That's why I follow u in on Eco, I believe in ur instinct even I haven't seen ECO fundamental yet but I walk along my instinct to move in with you. Hope we are right and wait till summer to see this babe fly high. ^^

Morning bro, yea this year will be a hot one and for fire the strongest will be on summer and will faith down during the autumn and die off in winter. Means the push will be from the beginning till July. Make good use of the first half if you believe in the year batzi. Many HK tycoons pay a lot of attention on this feng shui elements to make them very successful. No harm to believe well everything is about balancing. So foucs on fire and wood this year means property and plantation counters especially for the first half. Strongest on summer. We will see whether the property counters will make a big leap during summer or not. ECO as u say bro will fly high maybe in March or April , is that almost the time good things will be announce and the financial year end 2013 reports out? U bet.

Fundamentally strong + Feng Shui support for the year = Success. Bros, Lets ride high with the flying horse ^^

BTW you guys believe in feng shui? If yes the year of wooden horse signifies strength on fire and wood. Well property and plantation represents fire and wood element respectively. Keep an eye on it in 2014 haha. I think we are in the right track from our portfolios, matrix, ECO, MKH.

Assam bro I choose Perisai as I saw it make a massive turnaround in 2012 and its 2013 quarterly results till date is sustaining on its revenue and earnings as well. They secure some contracts too but I haven't got the time to really go in more depth. Have yet to buy any but just eyeing it closely. Im trying to limit my portfolios around 5 so is within my radar. Too many portfolio tend to diversify a lot and tend to lose out as well and lesser ur bullets from the vast diversification. Get hold on 2 or 3 good ones and slam more on it would see higher returns. My thoughts.

Karex was good in terms of its business unless u don't use Durex its OEM product. But is still a loss making coy, have to watch out at this moment.

Chrolla check out the news about kossan today on the edge write up or u can track it from my share under kossan blog. Anyhow bro nothing is guarantee, just sharing with you wht I have been seeing in this field and looking at its future prospect with its aggressive business strategy. I hold this for long term but if u want growth companies better move in with Matrix or Eco. If u want see potential undervalue coy haven't been tap u can try MKH. If u want steady rise tewnama recommended me a good stock prestariang. This is my current portfolio, looking for one good O&G , eyeing on Perisai.

NO is just found and hit for hibiscus. A Speculate counter no fundamentals at all either live or die. If the second well didn't make it u will see another great fall.

Bro assam wont de , no 100% guarantee if have must run coz is a scam scheme. Same boat with u but I believe liew will place road for his son. Which father doesn't love their sons and wants them to be as good or even better then them. ^^ I only regret not buying much when it is lower that day or at 3.30.

chrollo Kossan is for long term so don't worry about the high volumes or wht. Buy it and don't see it if I run I tell u haha. Why coz im in the rubber industry and in the healthcare as well. So I know this potential markets well. QE tapering is favoring this companies and nitril prices is non much fluctuate compare to raw latex but raw latex is slumping down , believe me I'm buying upfront contracts for my company and their prices is slumping down means higher profit going to be in coming months for Glove industy. Any outbreaks occurred in the world u will see this type of companies share fly higher and higher.

BTW any of u in Hibiscus?

Assam bro , should have listen to ur advice when is 3.30 miss the boat bro. But honestly I'm more down the road which if I don't see potential datas I will not jump in but I do believe in ur view. So I join in 40 lots. Not much but will shift in more if the first announcement of good news moves in. ^^

Of course didn't sold Eco bought it that day I see no reason to press out like wise waiting for the 5b injection and the release news on their new landbanks. But didn't bought much of it only 40lots. Funds tie up in Matrix, kossan & MKH.

Can I join haha coz having the same counter with u guys.

iafx indeed there is a risk as no one can predict how the CPO price will goes but somehow MKH have 15k hectres of palm oil in Indonesia which they have planted back in 2011 and are ready to be harvest in 2014. No matter how the price goes, it will bring in additional revenue and earnings to the group. The brokerage notes that the plantation business has posted maiden profits in its financial year ended Sept 30, 2013 (FY13) and is projected to grow at 31% three-year earnings compounded annual growth rate given its young tree profile, when trees are usually most productive.

“Despite the promising prospects, MKH is only trading at five times FY15 price-to-earnings (P/E), an undeserving 70% discount to the Malaysian small-mid-cap plantation peers’ average P/E multiple,” analyst Quah He Wei writes.

As for its core business in property development, FY2013 has unbilled sales of RM 503m and there is 890M more worth on new properties in 2014.

What I like this counter is the low PE and undervaluation of it together with its potential earnings for the coming years.

PS- Buy at your own risk and judgement, solely my personal opinion. If you are not looking for undervalue and fundamental shares what are you looking for then in the stock market?

CPO is slanting down since mid Dec till now but plantation companies are predicted to move up in 2014 forecasted rising in CPO prices.

Don't miss out this undervalue babe.

An interesting article on why you choose Kossan as your 2014 glove counter. http://www.theedgemalaysia.com/business-news/270467-good-results-for-rubber-glove-makers.html

ok bro.

tewnama, bila byk atau main sikit aje bro?

Share market is fun when price rise sky high ppl start to question and worry, when price fell hell down ppl also question and start to worry haha..wht we really want? I will opt for 80% fundamental (gradually increase) 20% fry ( don't question why up or down coz is goreng, be responsible on the results)

tewnama, dah masuk byk tak ? I sempat masuk sikit aje pagi tadi bila bukak. Ikut u dgn assam aje kasi main sikit.