Posted by Chipee > 1 week ago | Report Abuse

Abrdn, EPF and Director selling. ... sigh... why ler?

Posted by Chipee > 1 week ago | Report Abuse

Aik? ... EPF buy 700K units ...
Hmmm ... I think they are trading in and out. If net is buy price shld be up.
Hoping to buy at lower price I think.

Posted by Chipee > 1 week ago | Report Abuse

Volume for today looks small for EPF or Abrdn to be involved.
Scenario may change after lunch.

Posted by Chipee > 1 week ago | Report Abuse

Kanasai ... Supermax loss money affect Kossan meh?
THat;s why I said Kossan is better managed compare to all the glove companies.

Posted by teknikal > 1 week ago | Report Abuse

Support 1.50 followed by 1.35.

Posted by Chipee > 1 week ago | Report Abuse

Hmmm ... I don't think so lor...

teknikal

Support 1.50 followed by 1.35.

Posted by zzzzz > 1 week ago | Report Abuse

Below RM1.60 soon... hopefully rebound later

Posted by Likesung > 1 week ago | Report Abuse

Cheapermx sabotaj lo

Posted by 5354_ > 1 week ago | Report Abuse

Supermax why QR loss? Spoil gloves show.

Posted by Chipee > 1 week ago | Report Abuse

Market take Msia glove industry as a whole. Wah lau .... each individual company is different ler. So Kossan must show good profits in subsequent quarters to prove that they are better glove company in Msia.

Posted by 5354_ > 1 week ago | Report Abuse

Previously Kossan belong to top 4 or no 4 gloves company. After Covid-19 pandemic, Kossan become top 2? Even previous taikor TopGlove cannot make profit yet.

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Posted by Chipee > 1 week ago | Report Abuse

Ranking change
1 Kossan
2 Hartalega
3 Supermax
4. Top Glove


5354_

Previously Kossan belong to top 4 or no 4 gloves company. After Covid-19 pandemic, Kossan become top 2? Even previous taikor TopGlove cannot make profit yet.

Posted by BobAxelrod33 > 1 week ago | Report Abuse

@Chipee, don't mind to share on what basis of the ranking????

Posted by Chipee > 1 week ago | Report Abuse

1 Kossan: Q3 Profit 41mill. Cash 2+bill.

2 Hartalega Q3 Profit 29mill. Cash 1.6+bill, Production capacity similar to Kossan. Use to be favourite for dividend payment but Harta cannot pay similar dividends anymore.
Harta used to be more efficient in production but the lower profit (comapre to Kossan) might suggest Kossan had stepped up their game in efficiency.

3 Supermax: Q3 make a loss. Cash 1.6+bill, Production capacity similar to Kossan. Mistake to invest in US. US is problematic with labour unions (high labour cost) and strict regulations.

4. Top Glove: Q3 make a loss. Lowest cash among the 4. Production capacity is high but utilization rate is low, hence overhead fixed cost is high causing net loss. Should demand goes back to pre-covid, then maybe TopGlove can reclaim no. 1.

Posted by BobAxelrod33 > 1 week ago | Report Abuse

Thanks, but you have forgotten the basics......EPS, NTA and ROI.....just sitting on a pile of Cash won't work as they are burning cash.

Posted by Chipee > 1 week ago | Report Abuse

Yeah. No doubt. But we look at how their strive in challenging situation. I would look at that EPS, NTA and ROI....during good times (pre-covid). And you only burn cash if you make a loss. Kossan and Harta are profitable. They are sitting on cash, making them easier to go through hard times and lower debt. Once profit are more consistent from quarter to quarter ... they can decide what to do with it ... share buy back, special dividend, green energy tech etc ....

BobAxelrod33

Thanks, but you have forgotten the basics......EPS, NTA and ROI.....just sitting on a pile of Cash won't work as they are burning cash.

Posted by Chipee > 1 week ago | Report Abuse

But as of now and uncertain market condition ... Kossan is sitting pretty.
We know most of the world is in negative GDP. Companies with strong cash position is very favourable.

Posted by Chipee > 1 week ago | Report Abuse

That's a very good point. Thx

Felix666888

Customer stock bought during Covid time either already expired or near expiry because medical glove`s shelf life is about 3 years. You will see demand back to pre Covid time very soon. ASP price will be going up due to demand normalized.

Posted by Chipee > 1 week ago | Report Abuse

And another thing ... TopGlove is the biggest glove producer in the world.
In normal/good market condition and demand is strong, TopGlove is favourable becoz they somewhat decide the ASP. Being the biggest producer and economy of scale, they can make profit via volume play.

But in bad condition (low demand aka low volume), their high overhead cost becomes a problem. They have to maintain a certain ASP which becomes favourable to smaller players. In this situation, smaller players can achieve profit first. And if demand keep staying weak ... smaller players are favourable. Hartalega proves this fact to be true when the shutdown their Bestari Jaya plants. And the next quarter (Q3), Harta becomes profitable. So Kossan, Harta and Supermax is in sweet spot when it comes to production capacity size.... for current demand condition. I believe Supermax make a loss in Q3 bczo of their US venture.

Posted by ryoyagod > 1 week ago | Report Abuse

In a nutshell, Kossan and Harta are superior now 😁

Posted by BobAxelrod33 > 1 week ago | Report Abuse

Sssshhhhh....Andre......already spotted when he first posted!

Posted by Endgame > 1 week ago | Report Abuse

Abrdn buy bck

Posted by Endgame > 1 week ago | Report Abuse

Who sell ytd all kena trap or buy back again

Posted by Chipee02 > 1 week ago | Report Abuse

Why my Chipee account cannot comment liao?
This is my 2nd account. Wahlau ...cannot give analysis on stock here?

Posted by yfchong > 5 days ago | Report Abuse

fully valued ? until Aberdeen starts selling ?

Posted by 5354_ > 5 days ago | Report Abuse

Covid-19: Health Ministry says cases up by 57.3%
https://www.thestar.com.my/news/nation/2023/12/03/covid-19-health-ministry-says-cases-up-by-573

Posted by Likesung > 5 days ago | Report Abuse

Very funny lah still hoping new virus kah, even new virus also goreng up few few cent only after that taking profit liao

Posted by Chipee > 4 days ago | Report Abuse

Nobody is hoping for NEW VIRUS la.... Case goes up, usage of gloves goes up.
Common sense la.... Ohio and Europe increase cases of pneumonia due to bacteria. U think we hope for kids to die ... Wahlau eh!

Posted by BobAxelrod33 > 4 days ago |

Post removed.Why?

Posted by BobAxelrod33 > 4 days ago | Report Abuse

....especially true for chimpanzees........(sounds familiar)

Posted by Likesung > 4 days ago | Report Abuse

When I saw always sharing covid case lah I feel funny lo

Posted by ChandranG > 4 days ago | Report Abuse

sharing is caring 😆 no need to hide from the bad news that occurs around the world

Posted by Likesung > 4 days ago | Report Abuse

Chipee
Now covid is very mild nothing different with normal cold so gloves supply are normalize

Posted by Chipee > 3 days ago | Report Abuse

Ya. I know. Don't count on "new virus". Have to wait for another 100 years.
Waiting for oversupply during covid to finish and back to pre-covid orders/demands.

Likesung

Chipee
Now covid is very mild nothing different with normal cold so gloves supply are normalize

Posted by klee > 2 days ago | Report Abuse

https://news.nestia.com/detail/-/11933783

Posted by klee > 2 days ago | Report Abuse

Spore covid cases breached 22k in nov.

Posted by Likesung > 2 days ago | Report Abuse

Even 200k no use lah they still go shopping , working, eating outside so who care about it

Posted by klee > 2 days ago | Report Abuse

This no use that no use,the fact is kossan has appreciated some 70% from its low below rm1.Not 7% not 17 %.Must be some no use fund buying it up.Lol.

Posted by Penang_lang > 2 days ago | Report Abuse

EPF belong to no use fund?

Posted by klee > 13 minutes ago | Report Abuse
Must be some no use fund buying it up.Lol.

Posted by Penang_lang > 2 days ago | Report Abuse

Those condemned Kossan ask yourself why EPF buy Kossan not Harta, TopGlove or Supermax.

Posted by klee > 2 days ago | Report Abuse

Penang lang,I think you misunderstood me.I am being sarcastic.

Posted by klee > 2 days ago | Report Abuse

Read few comments above me ...lol

Posted by Chipee > 1 day ago | Report Abuse

Lu ho liao ... And lu are correct. Kossan is good. I'm excited to see Q4 result ... But hv to wait Feb 24 ... Some more dragon year ... see got boost on sentiment boh? Hehehe...

Penang_lang

Those condemned Kossan ask yourself why EPF buy Kossan not Harta, TopGlove or Supermax.

Posted by Chipee > 1 day ago | Report Abuse

This current ups and downs ... I take it as normal trading pattern. I ignore it. Does not upset me.

Posted by ryoyagod > 1 day ago | Report Abuse

normal thing for a stock to behave like a wave

Posted by TillyLovers > 12 hours ago | Report Abuse

Is Kossan starting a down trend?

Posted by ChandranG > 11 hours ago | Report Abuse

stagnant instead of downtrend I think ...

Posted by ket4212 > 7 hours ago | Report Abuse

little adjustment！no fuss