Hi Kc, how and where do you conduct your class? You can email me at kakashi123_hatake@hotmail.com

Thanks

paperplane2, what is your holding price of genting?

Genting definitely one of valuecap target from its volume push up

taipingbear , cyborg, what are your professions?

How many of you are actually buying Call warrants? I am not into index warrants now due to its volatility.

Dax drop more than 350points (>3.5%) due to Volkswagen. DJI already dropping close to 300 points. Really no catalyst. Nobody knows why it drops so much. Everyone knows economy is slowing but ppl still buy in before Fed announce decision on rate hike. When Feds say no hike, market drop like mad and blame on china growth, which they already knew when they start buying in stocks and jack up the share price.

This is the pattern:
1. Sell => China slow
2. Buy => anticipate feds do not hike the rate
3. Sell => Cos fed did not increase the rate, so it means economy is slow.

To be honest, I don't even know what is the market direction, Bear sentiment is definitely very strong.

So, We will be going for a ride tomorrow.

Anyone holding C12? I know Ivan is holding some at 0.21. Take care guys...tomorrow is going to be wild

1630 is support....should buy call at support and buy put at resistance level...
Usual that's the case la...

1660 is next resistance. German pull down by VW emission test cheating...lets see how DJI perform. Shanghai so far so good....still and quiet...If shanghai and DJI both drop, our najis 20bil also tak cukup...

Nonetheless, u can see our valuecap performance these few days...drop 9 points push back to drop 4 points, above 1630

haha..so many rumours...DJI drop back from..KLSE not moving with peers..our najis in corruption case and ask silat guys to protect him

My genting and public bank and tambun still half cook...not goreng yet

C12 can buy ah? Hard to say lo

test at what price?

DJI going 150 points ++, Germany recovering, going positive after Volkswagen sold down...
crisis coming?

So, don't cry wolf when wolf is not around ya...one day drop = crisis, one day up = bull is back... Its pure votality right now and long term bearish with short term bull

DJI up 1%, technical rebound? Its call volatility...

thanks for your sharing taipingbear...

I am so convince with myself that klse will see 1500 by next few months until najis announce the 20bil valuecap. Then I stop trading in klse warrants.

I then move to blue chips, hope to ride with the bull. Not sure will it be slaughtered by oil and RM. If not mistaken, the valuecap is just into the market, so hopefully we see positive things just like in shanghai index

haha...cyborg is just making general statement...nothing solid, nothing too difficult to come out with.

But to be honest, there is no catalyst to the market as well...

taiping bear, why u delete your post on today's earning on HSI CP?

Not bad, still make money in such volatile day...congratz..
ya, need immediate cut loss for warrants...too dangerous to cling on cos anything can happen

Genting one of the hidden gems

http://www.thestar.com.my/Business/Business-News/2015/09/21/Hidden-gems-of-Bursa-Malaysia/?style=biz

taiping bear, today HSI-cp not performing that well, you manage to go thru that?

There you go: some speculation on oil price

http://shipandbunker.com/news/world/998954-proposed-summit-between-opec-and-non-opec-producers-aiming-for-minimum-70-oil

Ya, don't average down puts or calls...

Cyborg comment are mostly general. Just like most news flying in the market, very general.
I think the key thing to look at is oil price.

If oil up, RM will go up, M'sia sentiment will go up
If oil down, RM will go down, sentiment down.

So, action from OPEC will be the key thing to look at right now. Following the mood swing of DJI or China is correct too to an extend. But China up today while KLSE down 30 points.

I read in the edge that OPEC aiming for $80 per barrel. If this is achievable and they do not go to a price war with US, then its good for M'sia. Not to mention our RM20bil bail out from Najis

nobody knows if its going to go up or down but try predicting by end of this year, will it hit 1700 or 1500? That will be much better to monitor day by day. Then you will read comments from cyborg that financial crisis is happening when KLSE drop 30 points, or the bull is back when KLSE rise 30 points.

Ok, got stuck liau..haha

The last quarter earnings EBITDA very poor...

RM20bil just in today.

I ask u guys to see the volume for these stocks u don't want.
Execeptional volume. U see batu kawan, drop 5% last min trading. Big fish already positioning themselves and start to play liau,.....
So now is the time to swim with the big fish...RM20bil, Malaysia market is small, can jack up

Europe fall quite bad...german 3.5% d

icon8888, where is bintai?

MBSB = Malaysian building society

yaya icon8888...sorry guys for misleading...not out from KLCI index...sorry

The volume for all the stocks that I listed spike up last min !!!
Means big funds are already moving around in market.

If big funds are in: then we are fine
If big funds are out: then next week we mati...then can go put warrant...

Really remarkable u see how they play...
I think nobody checking what I am talking about

Another big news !
UEMS, Felda and supermax out from blue chips !!


http://www.theedgemarkets.com/my/article/fgv-uem-sunrise-supermax-excluded-index?type=Corporate

guys, go see the closing volume for all these stocks:

Genting
PPB
Maxis
Maybank
AMbank
airasia
gas Malaysia
skpetro
Spsetia
tenaga
MBSB
genting Malaysia
TM

actually I don't even think the big boys are playing other stocks than blue chips. Just look at the closing volumes of all the stocks I listed...
Remarkable !
Second liner is out, not even considered at this time. Even technology stocks are out. Why? They picking up on blue chips and beaten down stocks related to khazanah, KWAP, PNB like UEMS, etc

Anybody can tell me what you find?

U go see the graphs of all these stocks especially at closing:
Genting
PPB
Maxis
Maybank
AMbank
airasia
gas Malaysia
skpetro
Spsetia
tenaga
MBSB
genting Malaysia
TM

We are in for a ride next week !!

u know why KLSE at closing push up to 1670??
U take a look at these stocks. Something big is brewing. Either good or bad.

Genting
PPB
Maxis
Maybank
AMbank
airasia
gas Malaysia
skpetro
Spsetia
tenaga
MBSB
genting Malaysia
TM

Go see and tell me what u find. I think the big boys is in(or out) of the market today !

Guys !!! I found a pattern !!!

next week will start pull back...I think DJI tonight will drop also...cos fed decision already price in before announcement...then who do market look to?
US and China obviously. They are the market maker...China going to 2500? I don't think so..At first, I think global market will drop further...but with all these stimulus plan, its so hard to say.. even KLSE closing is pushed up towards 1670

Icon, you keep mentioning second liners. Which company is in second liner???

Cyborg, are u sure everyday 1k? Not so accurate one...Call and put warrants fluctuate in a day. How to catch

valuecap push 1661 to 1669.45 (1670)in last min. So obviously the funds is still in play. 3 days up >6% for KLSE, today only retract <1%. So, I think uptrend still there, finger cross.

See u guys next week !

haha..come on big boys, share with us your portfolios so we can really compare...what u holding right now...then we see how your share perform in next few weeks
talk talk anybody also can talk...

Red_85, Jackz ... like this u both buy more put warrant ya...don't be shy, go ahead and buy more...

Already price in...ppl already expect no hike...that is why all down...this week already all rise . So I expect C12 under selling pressure today

I earned 2.3k yesterday from gentingC23...sold it off and went into its mother share...

Public bank C5(0.08), genting (7.71) and tambun (1.34) buying price. Lets see how it goes today ya.

Anyone want to share his/her portfolio so we can encourage each other?

Correction
*money is in blue chips quite obviously *

Icon, I don't think money at second liner...money is not in blue chips quite obviously

By the way, I agree with your strategy to hedge Put when KLSE is trading high. The question is how high is high? before yesterday, many analyst says 1660 is a strong resistance, but get brushed aside by the bull like a red cloth

Ya, I think fund manager is in big trouble if he is averaging down put warrants. AS I always say, the big mistakes that I make is to average down. It always whack me the most. So from now on, no more averaging down...and worst still, to do that with warrants.

Genting powered on ya ~~ SEe you >RM8 today

I think opening will be strong, but ppl will start to take profit...so, KLSE expected to test 1700 but not sure can breach that bo...if can, then really salute najis RM20bil...He take our money, now its time to capitalize in whatever we can...

How many of u guys still holding put? I think someone is averaging down his put warrants right? forgot who is that...Its a dangerous game to play KLSE index now...

Alpha, sure bo u hentam HSI-CP that much. Its going to expire and liquidity might not be there....

I will only start collecting put when KLSE approaching 1800, I think the 20bil really got firepower... <1600 to 1681 in 1 week no problem...crashing thru all the strong resistance..

Haha AlphaJack, u love Korean pretty boy?

tomorrow I am going into UEMS...take up all my position already. I love electronic stocks but I think this round does not belongs to them

Genting (gaming)
Public Bank (banking)
Tambun Indah (property)
UEMS - tomorrow (property)

Thanks to Genting, Rm3k today...and still holding

Good question, is the 20bil already in the market? I believe they already are. and most retailers are in too...1700 is coming my friends.

KarWai, you from penang?

Nice one

why pancit last min?

Ya, they turn red, not crash but pull down. <2% down. Remember Beijing hike up >5% 2 days ago.
Cyborg, yes, you are right, but in china, retailers did not position themselves when china announce stimulus...that's why they have difficulty controlling and china had to ask investment firm to buy the shares.
KLSE a bit different. Notice when Jibby announce stimulus, we went from 1600 to 1680 in 3 days ! 3 days gain non stop.
but we cant really predict, that is why I am out from put/call warrants. no trend at all...

just hope to ride with the big fish (RM20bil killer whale)

Actually, many investors in Asia region start positioning themselves ahead of Fed's announcement. So, expectation is that it will bring cheers to the market.
So, retailers like us also start to position ourselves in GLC/blue chips last min. Good strategy? Lets see tomorrow ya

felda is a no no...just purely goreng, no point holding.

ecoworld is in my watch list too. Sunway Reits as well.

I think u hit well on AirAsia, rebound so strong...

If anything goes wrong, we just need to hold :), I think we are in good position for these stocks...

KLSE weakening at 1680, might end below 1680 I think. C12 already makan finish 0.185

I went into GLC. These are momentum stock and they are rebounding from their support level.
However, not going into O&G or Aviation. So, no SKPetrol, AA, AAX, etc

I went into Genting and PBB and Tambun (not GLC but I saw KWAP bought their share. KWAP is one of the 3 value cap entity), all rebounding from their support level. Genting rebound from RM7, PBB from RM8, Tambun from RM1.2

Actually, I score about RM2k++ when I bought GentingC23 at 0.04 and sold at 0.045. Its now 0.065 :( .... I sold of cos MAcquire mentioned they are not providing liquidity to this warrant.

How about you Lanternshark?

wow, I missed so much.
Guess u guys had make lots of money...opening bell already >10% in pocket.
I try to go in but didn't catch the boat...so I went into bluechips...

KLSE already above 1680..lets see if it can stay there. already into resistance area (1687-1700). So, anytime sentiment weak, C12 will drop. Going up by 35 points, but C12 only manage 2 cents from 0.17. Apparently strong sellers here.

Nonetheless, I am totally out from Call and Put. Its too hazy to tell it will go above 1700 or back to 1630.

Good thing is the RM20bil is not even 1 week since the announcement. Any many retailers are taking position in blue chips already.
Meaning the RM20bil still have a long way to go. I wont be surprise if we hit 1800 again.
Coupled with Beijing move to push its index...2 days ago close at +5% last min...

All in all, its too hard to tell. Macro economy is weak (oil & currency & commodity) but countries are injecting $$ into its financial system. So, up or down? No one knows

Haha...so guys, tomorrow C12 on ya...all go in...show hand time...do or die. ok bo?