becareful bro....kot melecur...water bottle pecah....ha....ha...ha...

Bro...musim hujan ni bro.....mood kena baik...kalau sejuk macam mana?....ha...ha...ha..

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strategisst .... banyak benda yang tak menentu sekarang ni bro kakisaham .... mood orang rumah pun tak menentu jugak .... kih kh kih .... :)
22/10/2014 18:16

ozzie75 ...

Like wise...same question in my head...hmmm...

Tan Sri HS....What is your strategy?

Bro..

let's assume.....under worst scenario

Current MP 0.32..maintain until ex date...due to what ever reason..

RI 0.40...fully subscribe...

What is the price on the listing date?

Higher than RI price or lower?

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Posted by strategisst > Oct 21, 2014 11:58 PM | Report Abuse

@Musashi57... since I have reserved my funds to subscribe for the RI and the MP is lower than the RI price... then what am I waiting for?.... Just buy more from the market and in fact I could ended up with higher holding intead of maintaining the same % shareholding .... the only thing that I could missed out is on the free warrant.... :)

noted ...thanks

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elle @SJ, Insas and Flonic
21/10/2014 23:55.
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elle...can share which counter?

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Posted by elle > Oct 21, 2014 11:35 PM | Report Abuse

Musashi57 @elle...MP falls below RI after approval and before the RI exercise is it...?
21/10/2014 23:28

One before and the other after ex date.

Goreng bro...jangan tak goreng.......letak segala jenis ramuan...rempah ratus dan sebagainya.....

he..he..he..

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strategisst @Musashi57, I have never seen RI being priced above MP .... It is a sure failure and no underwriter(s) going to underwrite such exercise....

I was informed that Sumatec submitted the same proposal to Bursa but the ratio and price would be determined at a later date .... in the meantime they still sticked to the 1:2 with 1 free Warrant for every 1 right subscribed at an indicative price of 0.40 per RI .....

Premised on that, I would think that they would push the price nearer to the approval date and only they know when is the suitable time to do so .... :)

In the event I get wind of the 'goreng' time... I would inform all of you here ... :)
21/10/2014 22:50

Use SUMATEC to enhance returns of your portfolios. The stock experiences large bullish trend
Disclaimer: Trade at your own risk.......

Bro strategist/looiks.....I am monitoring the temperature indicator....under control...very good...steady....he..he...

looiks...your engine temprature slowly heating up...but steady.....he...he....

Stocks might go up, or down, in the very short run. They remain your best chance at long-term prosperity in a world with artificially low interest rates and apparently unlimited money printing from the world’s major central banks.

This correction is pretty much over. The action on thursday and friday pretty much confirms it.

xxxxx.....Dr.Nazri Khan pernah cakap...anything below 0.40 is a BUY call for Sumatec....I mentioned a few times in this Forum but some people laugh at me saying nasty words...but it is ok....Nah.... at this level is a BIG Bonus for those yang berani to take risk.....

For me it is a calculated risk.....

Bro strategisst.....likewise bro.....Insya Allah semua ok....

xxxxx...We follow bro strategist......Can't go wrong.....

xxxxx.....mmmmmm....What do you feel?....Confident or not?

ozzie75

A naive forecasting model for SUMATEC is a special case of the moving average forecasting where the number of periods used for smoothing is one. Therefore, the forecast of SUMATEC RESOURCES BHD value for a given trading day is simply the observed value for the previous period. Due to the simplistic nature of the naive forecasting model, it can only be used to forecast up to one period. Given 180 days horizon, the value of SUMATEC RESOURCES BHD could be WOW.......

I actually reconcile my analysis with one of the investment banks TP for Sumatec...looks positive.....(some James Bond work involve)

BUT must be prepared to be against all odds...

Sorry...I sound very technical.......

Disclaimer:

I could be right.
I could be wrong.
Trade at your own risk.

Disclaimer:

I could be right.
I could be wrong.
Trade at your own risk.

Bollinger Bands are intervals drawn on SUMATEC price chart at standard deviation levels above and below the corresponding moving average. This produces an effect of having the bands widen during periods of SUMATEC RESOURCES BHD higher volatility and contract during less volatile periods. Bollinger Bands indicate the relative supply and demand for SUMATEC. If SUMATEC RESOURCES BHD price moves close to the top of the interval then it indicates that there is strong demand for the asset, alternatively if SUMATEC hugs the bottom of the trading range then it indicates that there is oversupply of the asset. The current lower band of SUMATEC RESOURCES BHD 30 days horizon is 0.23. The upper band for the period is currently at 0.43. Given the current price of 0.33, the overall demand for shares of SUMATEC is increasing.

UPTREND.....

bro...lain macam confident....he..he..he..

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strategisst ... small+small+small+small+small ........ become BIG ..... :)
19/10/2014 22:29

Coincidently......Read this:

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THE BEARISH RUN ON SIGHT, IS GETTING RICH THIS EASY?
Author: STOCKHACKER | Publish date: Fri, 17 Oct 17:23

What a day. Bullish again? Or a temporarily happiness. Nobody knows.

Any way wish all feeling a little bit better than yesterday.

We all know the end of speculative run is near when the major media coverage blare " you can't lose". If gold slips to $1500 buy it. Gold is immortal. Worth at least $1999.

If oil slips to $ 100 buy it. It's worth at least $500 p/b. It will be a shortage soon.

Time to buy commodities? That giddy guy on a magazine cover who has made a fortune is your answer. Yes!! A resounding yes, many times.

Time to buy that hot stock? The superman over the cloud will shout, Yes!!! Another resounding yes, many, many times.

Is it really so easy to get rich? Just buy the hot stock or sector when everyone else is buying it too? Sadly, if it was this easy, well, we will all be billionaires. But instead of all being a billionaire, most of us are poor dumb morons who forays as an investor. "Including me." ( A polite term or gambling of the most speculative pernicious sort) have generally ended in resounding disaster.

It was so obvious that the energy sector was the revolutionary force which will blossom in a decades long boom, and therefore, the sector will sky rocket and skeptics were dismissed as fools. And the prove they were wrong? Pretty simple because the stock keep moving up.

Does the sure thing furor bubbling around the gold or commodity reminds anyone else of all those recommendations to buy a hot stock at $xxx ? It was obvious the darling of a sector will eventually ended abruptly. As usual.

Is the business was not so easily turn over? Small details such as xx stock being worth far more than justified, they can overwhelm the world, eventually surface.

The gamblers ( I mean investors ) that the company will double sales every quarter for quite some time, but an other AA company could no longer do so. Yes the xx company was a revolutionary force and can grow for decades but did not automatically translate into xx and bring a buy at $xxx. Just before it falls to $ x.

This is a usually a development of a new industry or field or etc. The initial leg of growth is rapid and the long hanging fruit is scooped up and new markets and processes are exploited. But at some point the easy money has been made. Competition heats up, production capacity expands and demands falls to a less torrid growth rate, or even falling.

Price which rose happily during rapid expansion levels begin to fall at the point has reached and production exceeds demand, margin fall, weaker players drop out or go bankrupt and a long re- trenching begins.

In a similar fashion, if only that were so easy, just follow the herd. Now that will the dollar continue to weaken or the opposite direction?

All of this begs a simple question, will oil rebounds again and create the next bubble? Or it is generally a time to sell out to move to another backwater of forgotten value which has fallen into disfavor?

The herd is always seems to be gathering new blood and new speed just before it runs off the cliff.

Now that the oil has declined to possible support at $84 and the stochastic has turned up, signaling for a potential reversal.

If oil really has been leading the broad market lower, should it finds support at $84, that could pressage a reversal in the broader market.

This correlation is of course very speculative and it could be a mere mote in the eye. Nonetheless it bears watching WTIC in the weeks ahead if it turns continue to impact the broader market direction.

Till then enjoy the run.

P/s: Political power has been narrowly concentrated, and has been used to create wealth to those who possess it. Sounds familiar? Not to me. I have a long position that don't correlate with those witch economist policy makers. And I agree to some readers that real tough investors never feel the heat at anytime and always happy. Just because you know what you want and without listening to unnecessary noises.

# Aji is a great company. My favorite and I have known them since I was a kid. My mentor is Koichi Kitani san. His vision and policy set, and still valid today.

# Start moving one year? I think you must be blind not to see Malaysian index graph before you seek stupid attention here!

# Next? Refer to the previous article. If no reversal/ massive intervention in 2014. All will be hitting new lows again and again.

Ahmad Muzamil Ahmad Murad...other counter ?sorry bro...no idea.....

I am keeping Sumatec as a very long term investment.....regardless.....I got it considerably cheap.... worth to wait.......I did a very deep study......beyond daily charts....

NG.....see how it goes .......mid term to long term......as it is now below 0.20 is a BUY call for NG......I am looking at NG's fundemantals.....I am not worried about the court case.....a matter of time....sooner or latter NG will break 0.20...0.30....0.40.....I can wait....Good Luck...

Based on normal probability distribution, the odds of NEXGRAM to move over 0.125 or more in 30 days from now is about 57.14%. Probability of NEXGRAM HOLDINGS BERHAD price to stay between its current price of 0.1 and 0.125 at the end of the 30-day period is about 42.48%
Assuming 30 trading days horizon, NEXGRAM HOLDINGS BERHAD has beta of -2.6971 . This suggests as returns on its benchmark rise, returns on holding NEXGRAM HOLDINGS BERHAD are expected to decrease by similarly larger amounts. On the other hand, during market turmoils, NEXGRAM is expected to outperform its benchmark.

cassyee >....My assumption...refer to my post below:

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Oct 14, 2014 10:38 PM | Report Abuse

nomanland...

If looiks is telling the truth, .......I foresee the price movement will be as follows:

0.34 ....0.343 ... 0.366... 0.385 ....... 0.398....0.403......0.421......445.....0.456


disclaimer:

I am an idiot...don't believe what I said....

Trade at your own risk

I could be right...I could be wrong....

Ring...I mentioned panic buying last week....

Next week......Some People might have to go to Tanjung Rambutan for not Buying Sumatec...at 0.305-0.33..

disclaimer:

I could be right..

I could be wrong

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Oct 11, 2014 10:13 PM | Report Abuse

I foresee.........next week will be panic BUY......

cassyee @strategitss, 1900 lot at 0.550........

Positive thinking Bro.......I think barring any unforeseen circumstances would be able to recover.....

disclaimer:

I could be right..

I could be wrong

xxxxx .....I did my analysis on probability.....I might be right...OR....I might be wrong

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Oct 17, 2014 05:47 PM | Report Abuse

Looiks .....

Only Abnormal investors will invest in Sumatec....Call me Insane ....I don't mind...he..he...he..

Based on normal probability distribution, the odds of SUMATEC to move over 0.4 or more in 30 days from now is about 50.72%. Probability of SUMATEC RESOURCES BHD price to stay between its current price of 0.33 and 0.4 at the end of the 30-day period is about 41.47%
Assuming 30 trading days horizon, SUMATEC RESOURCES BHD has beta of -0.0606 . This suggests as returns on benchmark increase, returns on holding SUMATEC are expected to decrease at a much smaller rate. During bear market, however, SUMATEC RESOURCES BHD is likely to outperform the market. Additionally SUMATEC RESOURCES BHD has a negative alpha implying that the risk taken by holding this equity is not justified.

Please do a thorough medical check up if you want to Play Sumatec......Health Insurance is Compulsory.......

Bro..I hope next year..Jan-Feb......I have forecast the TP for 60-180 days......TP...cun bro...

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strategisst Bro Sang-Jero... kalau ikut jadual asal my calculation should be end Jan - mid Feb next year.... tapi kalau ada magic... mungkin before end of year concluded ..... :)

bro strategisst .......roger...estimate 2-4 months......tq bro...

bro strategisst ...therefore all in all...time frame estimated should be around 3-4 months from now?...betul ke?

woman_x ...yeah I am aware...just asking the time frame from the date of Submission to the date of execution....roughly...

Looiks...My insurance coverage is for whole family........from AIA.......No hospital will reject.....he...he..he...That is why I am prepared to dive into Sumatec...he.he..he...

doraemon_dreamhunter.....bro.....jangan buat rumah di tepi pantai kalau takut ombak melanda.......
danger bro......orang gila macam aku ajer main sumatec........

doraemon_dreamhunter......Very risky for you...careful......read until the end.....

Additionally SUMATEC RESOURCES BHD has a negative alpha implying that the risk taken by holding this equity is not justified.

Please do a thorough medical check up if you want to Play Sumatec......Health Insurance is Compulsory.......

Looiks .....

Only Abnormal investors will invest in Sumatec....Call me Insane ....I don't mind...he..he...he..

Based on normal probability distribution, the odds of SUMATEC to move over 0.4 or more in 30 days from now is about 50.72%. Probability of SUMATEC RESOURCES BHD price to stay between its current price of 0.33 and 0.4 at the end of the 30-day period is about 41.47%
Assuming 30 trading days horizon, SUMATEC RESOURCES BHD has beta of -0.0606 . This suggests as returns on benchmark increase, returns on holding SUMATEC are expected to decrease at a much smaller rate. During bear market, however, SUMATEC RESOURCES BHD is likely to outperform the market. Additionally SUMATEC RESOURCES BHD has a negative alpha implying that the risk taken by holding this equity is not justified.

Please do a thorough medical check up if you want to Play Sumatec......Health Insurance is Compulsory.......

looiks......It is really worth to do a thorough research on Sumatec.......My chart is showing WOWWWW!!!!!...Must go against all ODDS to get there......Gua Tunggggggggggguuuuu

I am around bro....busy lah.....as I predicted....he..he..

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Posted by strategisst > Oct 17, 2014 04:28 PM | Report Abuse

.... where is my bro Sang-Jero? .... :)
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Oct 11, 2014 10:13 PM | Report Abuse

I foresee.........next week will be panic BUY......

Disclaimer:

Trade at your own risk.

I could be right.

I could be wrong.

see how lah....he..he...he....

grandma.........rahsia....he..he..he..

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Noraini Ismail Sjero.......yesterday chart jadi reversal lah.......you got test buy or not?
I look see only.......

I like this article.....

http://klse.i3investor.com/blogs/STOCKHACKER/61882.jsp

looiks...

people can say whatever they like in this forum...actually I just don't care.....World crisis can happen overnight....anytime...just like any natural disaster....e.g. the cyclone in Kedah...anybody anticipate?..It come and go...but why it happen?

I do a deep analysis on Sumatec..Why I stay & I take crisis as a very BIG opportunity.....If I look at today's chart......the outcome will be WOW!!!...I look beyond daily chart.....Good Luck to every one..Got to go....cheers...

looiks.....he...he..he..

I’m a pretty conservative investor, always looking for a big upside while trying to limit downside risk. I guess this is why I find global deep-value plays so fascinating.

Sumatec is trading way down from their highs and oftentimes below book or break-up value, prompting us to ask how much worse it could really get.

On the other hand, if you can find catalysts to unlock the value, or if the company becomes a buyout target, the upside gains can be extraordinary.

looiks.....he...he..he..

hmmm.....can enter kah? he..he..he

test sikit kot...

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Posted by Noraini Ismail > Oct 16, 2014 05:28 PM | Report Abuse

Closing @ 0.30 produce "inverted hammer" candlestick........oso double bottom (July) ....
Normally with this chart I'll be excited as indicating sign of reversal sign is appearing.....
But but but .......market is down trending, global O&G sectors oso in bad shape......
See lah ....how low some more Suma can go .......next support 0.28 ......revisiting May - July price..........hang on Suma supporters.........

ek eneh....rilek lah bro..

kau ni katun betul lah..

Why worry?..

Banyak ke sikit ke..it is all written up there since azali..

Whatever millions that we are holding is not ours...

its his....Dia yang punya...bukan kita

malam jumaat ni banyak banyak buat ibadah bro...jangan nak ngata ngata

tak berkat bro...Rezeki hak dia ...Dia bagi banyak mana kita redha...
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Posted by doraemon_dreamhunter > Oct 16, 2014 08:28 PM | Report Abuse

Posted by
SANG-JERO I am not sure....but I am still holding 0.27--0.28....No Worries...

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manmin sang jero ....best to enter ????
14/10/2014 22:29


doraemon_dreamhunter
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Posted by doraemon_dreamhunter > Oct 16, 2014 08:29 PM | Report Abuse

Hmm... whatabout today 16 oct? Still no worry? Kikiki

I follow the operator.....

Buy can...sell can...he...he...he

Good Luck to all...good nite...

tungggggggggguuuuuu

Geven 30 days horizon, the value of SUMATEC RESOURCES BHD on the next trading day is expected to be ----up to the operator.....I just wait for the signal to re-enter....Do nothing now....my average is very ok...

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nomanland @Sang-Jero, I was betting that the oil price will move up once it touched the 80 area.
If tomorrow up, will sell what I bought today, if not, just hold. Will see tomorrow whether I am banging the wall. ;)

nomanland...

sorry or the late reply...busylah

well..big risk you take here but still ok..

Bollinger Bands are intervals drawn on SUMATEC price chart at standard deviation levels above and below the corresponding moving average. This produces an effect of having the bands widen during periods of SUMATEC RESOURCES BHD higher volatility and contract during less volatile periods. Bollinger Bands indicate the relative supply and demand for SUMATEC. If SUMATEC RESOURCES BHD price moves close to the top of the interval then it indicates that there is strong demand for the asset, alternatively if SUMATEC hugs the bottom of the trading range then it indicates that there is oversupply of the asset. The current lower band of SUMATEC RESOURCES BHD 30 days horizon is 0.24. The upper band for the period is currently at 0.47. Given the current price of 0.315, the overall demand for shares of SUMATEC is decreasing....

So where does the big volume come from? Who sell & who buy...

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Posted by nomanland > Oct 15, 2014 08:03 PM | Report Abuse

@Sang-Jero, today really break all the support line 335/330/320. Yesterday, sold some, today buy some.

doraemon_dreamhunter

rilek la bro......gua tanya lu...lu tak nak jawab..pusing sana pusing sini.....
give me an entry level lah...tangan gua dah gatal dah ni...
share lah info.....

lu cakap berkoyan koyan...tak kan gua nak cakap berapa gua dah buat...tak mau riak bro...kayuh pelan pelan..

look on the positive side lah...lu kutuk halim saad tapi lu main dia punya counter..serupa hipocrate...mana nak datang berkat.....price down is an opportunity to re enter..

Bagi lah gua info what price to reenter...takan nak kaya sorang bro...share share lah...baru berkat

btw...glotec can buy kah? what is the entry level

tak pe lah bro..lu nak kutuk gua pun tak pe...gua tak rugi apa apa pun..
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Posted by doraemon_dreamhunter > Oct 15, 2014 04:57 PM | Report Abuse

I think sang jero my friend has sold most of his suma
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Lambat sangat ko ambik untung bro
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If u want to love somebody forever...

pick a girl... a woman ... a chick ... a lady .. even an old fat lady

dont choose a love stock..!!!

pelezeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee ... hihihi

Non Syariah stock...... BJ Corp.

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Posted by calvintaneng > Oct 15, 2014 10:08 AM | Report Abuse

Sang Kancil is clever. He already escaped Suma tiger for the safety of BJ Corp.

Bro..kau brilliant....tapi kau nak kaya sorang...

I ask for the entry level....kau tak nak cakap...
tapi kau kata kau truly islamic...
bantu lah ...an idiot like me....

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Posted by doraemon_dreamhunter > Oct 15, 2014 09:31 AM | Report Abuse

Sang jero has admitted that he's an idiot...

agree

he said dont believe in him

agree

he said he could be right or wrong

partially agree

kikiki

0.11 to 0.12 to 0.13........

Good luck...

Disclaimer:

I am an idiot...

Please don't believe what I said.

I could be right...I could be wrong.

Trade at your own risk
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Oct 11, 2014 10:13 PM | Report Abuse

I foresee.........next week will be panic BUY......

Disclaimer:

Trade at your own risk.

I could be right.

I could be wrong.

see how lah....he..he...he....