The promised annoucement never appear month after month...

U still holding. If can hold good. Still got hope.

Saddiq. I have sold off all seacera-wb above 80c n never look at it. Too illiquid.

Check my previous post. I said dj wil drop to 17300. Snp 2000.
With oil at 57. Very near to temporary bottom.
Dont want to get caught with a technical rebound. Safety first.
Always can make money if u know how to play futures mkt.
No nid to force urself to trade put warrant if the premium is ridiculous. Go straight into futures.
Not late to go open a futures acct n start learning. We can share knowledge. I m not here to make enemies.

Saddiq. Only 1 sector. Big semicon. Bursa has 3. Mpi. Gtronic. Unisem. The most progressive is unisem. The worst is mpi

U miss the point. I m waiting for the narrowing of premium. Who doesnt know klci is bear mkt?

Wait n see on monday. Dj close at around support level. May rebound 200 pts on monday nite
Klci may open -13pts.
Tuesday would b best time to buy? As if monday dj rebound 200 after drop 320. Snp is at very strong support level of 2000.anytime bounce off.
Dont listen to me. I m just jolting down ideas.

Alpha trader been asking ppls to buy ifca since 77c. I kept saying this stock is heavy downtrend

boring guy, since u said u so good, can u tell me any single one in i3 say u r good, in anything? please let me know, since u have doubt in my background.
is there, a single person in i3 think u r good?

zzzzz.... wahahaha.


so boring. tell me why u so smart as u said u trade glotec? pdz? sanichi, asiabio, glotec (that shows ur level is below ayam tua)
gpa, macho, pdz,



xi' xo hai....

newklear, after going thru your past comment on the counters u involved. it is clearly shown you are a penny punters...
and u donno anything but like to act like u know. wakakakak.


you trade funny counters which are penny

sanichi, asiabio, glotec (that shows ur level is below ayam tua)
gpa, macho, pdz,


what can one expect from u? wahhahahah.

thanks god u dont agreed with me, if u do, it only shows how low class i m.



Posted by newklear > Dec 12, 2014 11:46 PM | Report Abuse

Optimus, from what you have written, I tend not to agree with you at all. You seem to be from the stone age still trying to correlate the events all together to find a suitable match.

what about population has increase?? and there are 500% more cars on the road than 10 yrs ago.

800% more jets flying that 10 yrs ago?

really no brain, ppls said what also he convinced and think he very clever.

this one can laughdie. newklear simply copy from press and take it as his own..


Cars are 20-30% more fuel efficient now, Americans are more savvy by not driving too much, new planes with more efficient engines are coming off the production line every mth...Europe is relying more on public transport. This basically spells out decreased for crude.

newklear, obviously u r not a season trader of call/put warrant and you only talking from textbook and uncle auntie logic.

simon. dont step over my side i will xxxx u

newklear. i lazy to argue with u, u talk like no talk. rubbish.

tell us something we donno pls.

the IB so silly, sell something to u then have to chase and buy back from u? hallo bro, its underlying asset is KLCI la, they just go hedge in KLCI once they need to cover the position, only sorhai like newklear can say they will chase the stock back together with retailer.


then issue call/put warrant for what? chase ka. real nut

why idiots dont understand what is the term technical rebound? how do i know when? u think i m god?

MGS are favourite of foreign fund. they hold 150billion, today they dump 5 billion. the largest of all dumping.

but still, the mgs r very long term holding of foreign fund, u cant find many country to offer better product,

region, sorry i cannot understand your english... so i donno what u talk abt.

Posted by Simon Lau > Dec 12, 2014 10:18 PM | Report Abuse

SHORT THE FKLI INDEX, THE MGS IS ON THE DOWNTREND, THE INTEREST RATE IS CREEPING UP!!!!!!! NEXT GREECE IN THE MAKING??????????????????



no lah, not next greece in the making.
next madagascar

take example of Dialog. it was hit down from 1.48 to 1.19 on 1st dec, when oil price is still 68. now oil price at 59 today, it was traded at 1.44 in the morning.

oil 68= dialog 1.19, oil 59= dialog 1.44

does oil really affect stock price? or is it intentionally hit down the margin forceselling and some one is collecting cheap?

i see dialog collecting everyday since 1st dec.

short term oil fluctuation would not kill a country oil n gas biz. it so easy kill, saudi and russia oil biz all game over in 2008 liao.

as long as oil rebound within a year. all big oil n gas biz only suffer flu. not dengi.

now the mkt has successfully conditioned everyone to think, oil price=klci
oil up = klci up
oil drop =klci drop.


is it really as simple

In 1999 ci drop tp 260 from 1200. Dr m so angry. Give instruction to all fund mgr. Must push to 880 in 1 mth. I also heard this. Despite very skeptical. They did it.

I also suspecious they let klci drop. Wait him say thing. Then push to 1800 showing the world his speech so powerful. This tactic their classic la.

Icon. How come pm cum finance minister no say thing???

the lower oil price go, the higher chance for a technical rebound. therefore i m cautious of shorting klci with any instrument. until clearer sign emerge.

for today hg, hb, failed to closed at their last peak level despite klci closed at the lowest. that is a red flag.

looking at 15% technical rebound. say if it happen at 55, means will bounce to 63. if happen at 58, mean will bounce to 66 etc.


dont u think if that happen klci and stocks will have a big push up like wed up 28pts and everything green.

i donno how low oil can go down, but i do know there must be a technical rebound before it find its bottom..


oil price dont just drop from 100 straight down to 40 or 30 whatever target expert predict. it has to stop along the downwave, to have a technical rebound to catch shortist.


go study how gold price melt all the way from 1900 to 1100 range and see how their technical rebound kill.

yes u cannot stop the flow. and u have to sell to the mkt price.
who have say to the mkt price? the price leader is saudi. due to their size.

oilman has no storage la, very costly.

imagine u build up the shorting along the way and klci melt to 1300. how much more u could made? a few hundred % if not thousand, then u use that money to buy all your existing stock holding at low price. when mkt rebound, instead of having 500 lot of gob and gadang at high cost u have 5000 each at very low average.

without u putting up extra money. the futures industry paid for it.

icon, real hedging u better use future. to deal with your margin call worries.

for 1 contract, instead of paying 4000 as margin, u pay more, like 6000, .

so if u short futures now feb expiry. if u short it at 1720, they will only disturb u if ci shot up to 1880.


by which time u ask them to square off and dont bother to top up margin.
as your stock would have perform very well.

however, if ci keep dropping from 1720 to whatever level, your margin increase automatically, u can then place another contract to short at 1690, 1660 1600 for example, all without putting extra margin bcos the paper gain allows u to have more exposure.

icon, how many times we all think this country is gonna die? countless. just as we all feel very very hopeless, it spring up.

dont be too pessimistic. if u 75% cash . my advise to u, is to bring your wife and children go out celebrate, so many opportunities for you.

i know a lot of ppls has been collecting oil n gas stock over the last few years and seeing good paper profit and feelign very safe and rock solid..

feel bad for those ppls. actually, bursa is not a place for anyone to be serious. its just a casino. a bad casino.

real investor should only buy wallstreet as investment. big name like yahoo microsoft fb alibaba etc. even ford

i have not seen anyone still in profit as of today, 2 weeks ago an old malaysian fren of mine a typical investor, after holding bursa diversify good stock for 10yrs, still making losses. and wanted to clear everything and ask for my opinion. it happen when china ann stimulus, so i ask him better to hold, since hold for so many years.

who knows the mkt start melting like shit. u see. real investor also die.

icon, yes i agreed it can be broken. i only said not easy to break. i didnt say impossible to break.

hlbank close +2cent?

btw. its now running on the fear of oil price drop further. if oil price stabilize at 55 and moving 55-60, u still think the klci will keep dropping? to drop further it needed a very strong catalyst to kill 1700. so far dont see any yet. yes the rating agency thing. but i doubt they will do it so fast as oil only recently drop.

maybe by the time they wanted to downgrade oil already recovered?
they need strong paper work to downgrade a country, and its not a simple decision like sell oil price drop then downgrade malaysia


if they do that, they would have to downgrade, argentina n russia first, then all saudi, then europe oil producing country like normay and britain. so many to downgrade.

yes, very possible would crash. no matter what the govt do, i m just saying its not easy.

why u ppls keep thinking i said bursa wont crash? it is already crashed on many stocks, only klci not yet crashed.

updown. the foreign fund in malaysia is very small %.

small until it is considered irelevance, the big problem here is average malaysian dont hold stocks. no local participation.

only govt vs foreign fund vs listed company owners.

dreamhunter, would u still be around writtin here when your sumatec-wb drop to 5c? which is next month.

normal human response is very linear, when they see something keep going up, they r convinced it can only go up and v.v.

Posted by flytothemoon > Dec 12, 2014 08:57 PM | Report Abuse

optimuss, do you think those ppl have swallowed the money will take out to save malaysia?



they r not saving malaysia, u got it wrong, they are saving the govt. as long as they keep the govt afloat, endless opportunities to make more, dont u agree?

very true, now they say oversupply, few months ago they say supply very tight, like a virgin. all of a sudden sing diff songs.

Posted by murali > Dec 12, 2014 08:51 PM | Report Abuse

When crude oil is usd120,they will tell us usd200 soon,when crude oil is usd60.they will tell us usd40 soon....

foreign fund can kill greece drop 12% in a day. but no matter how they try in bursa, the max they get, 42pts, 2.2% from 1800 level.

yes foreigner want to kill klci .

obvious on the closing part.

but to sell down an index, u need to have stock to throw. right?
and unless the foreigner has deeper pocket than local fund like khazanah and epf. they r only wasting their time..

this country need a huge scandal or rating cut. to kill the index to below 1700.

remember prior to may 2013 election, it was so bearish that the govt will be gone, stock hit down, ci hit down. numerous time no matter how they kill the klci, it wont break below 1600.

that shows the power of the index defending team from govt fund.

analyst view can believe, pig also can climb tree la.

firebird. cnbc can listen then all astro subscriber make huge money in stock mkt liao la,


i have watch cnbc for numerous try, and everytime make me loss money and lose my judgement.

i now ban cnbc. for years.

have u seen petronas account? no, they only report to u the profit. what abt the unreported one? they will just paid govt more next year. despite they threaten to pay less on the excuse of lower oil price.

what they reported maybe just a fraction of what they earned.

who said govt without support of petrol? do u know how big is petronas? how much money petronas kept in new york? u hear also u faint...


and malaysia govt owned petronas. which govt own an oil major in asia? none.

why i buy there seems to be no support on govt on index, like they don wan to support. suddenly i saw them support. so i have to be careful. got it? learn the lesson from your Iris when i ask u to sell at 60c u keep scolding me.

icon, off hand i give u some

cimb, 7c is 1pt
pchem 7c is 1pt
ppb, 50c is 1pt
digi 7c is 1 pt
genm 9c is 1pt
hlbank 3c is 1pt
astro 11c is 1pt
sime 9c is 1pt
misc 13c is 1pt
skp 10c is 1 pt
petgs 30 is 1 pt
maxis 8c is 1pt
fgv 16c is 1 pt
maybank 6c is 1pt
ytl 5c is 1pt
axiata 7c is 1pt
bat, 10c is 2pt.

price leadership of oil come solely from saudi.

if they want to sell at 80, it will be 80. if they want to sell at 30, it would be 30.

simple as that. yes there r many other producer, but they are not price setting. shale oil or whatever they have various cost, but nobody want to sell at cost, everyone want to sell at the highest possible, thats biz. and saudi is the king of price setting.

when oil is too over supply, for real, US will start having war in or around oil producing region, n u see oil price sky rocket, and everyone forget abt oversupply. they start to worry abt not enuf suppy.

the conspiracy of saudi want to kill shale oil is complete nonsense, saudi depends on US for their own safety and even supply of arms.

do u dare to kill your taiko who protect u? what a joke

the real objective is to kill putin. nothing more than that, and they need many excuses and stories to fly around to justify it.

once, and if, putin step down as no 1. oil price will sky rocket to usd 100 almost within a month.