he only hates umno bcos he wanted to join mca got rejected. u really think he is so kind meh.

please la, mr koon still want to recommend stock ka. ady told him not to ask ppls buy on margin.

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Posted by zaidsmadi > Dec 14, 2014 11:59 PM | Report Abuse

Can you wait until 2016 !!!!
And can you handle the drop from 25 to 15
Wooow
For me ... I can't
And i brlieve only the lying mafia can do

Are you from the mafia !!??

i dont want to waste my time on non productive issue. u always claim to look for feedback, when i give feedback u get offended. friend of foe i dont care anymore.

its u who said u still treated me as fren just yesterday but today i smell otherwise.

hey, u got so much free time go read story book to your kids la, i m bachelor, different.

good luck to all put warrant holders, i stop my comment. when time is right i may enter again. its all subject to the many factors in play.

fyi. i didnt create new id to attack u. u know well who is behind the new id. take care n i wont comment on your post anymore. dont see any reason to fight with u.

icon, i swear its not me. i m serious.

Posted by james700 > Dec 14, 2014 11:35 PM | Report Abuse

Icon8888 the idiot missing ???

None of my concern. U can cont recommend stock n write blog like a pro.

Watever u justify your case. Pls feel sorry for those who listen to your gadang gob n ended in dire situation now becos of your kindergarden writeup. Not all have 75% cash put aside like u.
Wat a shame..

So if u can b so wrong in gob n gadang. Wat makes u think u can b rite in predicting klci on monthly basis. Thats the whole thing of futures monthly settlement logic. No yearly. So dont bet with me on yearly.

Ok fine u wan to b sarcastic.

Remember i was the only person to warn u we may b entering recession

Icon. U forgotten how bullish you were when publishing gob/gadang part 1 tp part 12. Now u insist mkt is crashing so wat happen to your gob n gadang?

Now u challenging me to proof ci will collapse. Wat u joke.

Dont think he is intelligence enuf to b a crook. Tats a compliment. More like a layman.

This hg came up from 5c 6c to 22c. If ci go above 1800. We can buy hg at 10c or less. Its all timing.

Icon. Only a 3 yr old kid would accept this bet. Any better game for adults?

Icon. I enter future mkt directly. I dont wan to pay crazy premium for nov 2015 where anything is possible.

60pts before nov 2015. Highly possible.
Why not bet this month only. I m more interested

In futures mkt. A move of 5% will means almost 75pts thats 3700 losses on your 4000 margin.
Means u loss all your margin.
Donno of anyone pay that kind of premium for futures.

Tj. Correct also if u want calc that way. In this instrument. Even 1% premium move will creat havoc to the instrument.
To the underlying asset is 4%. But to the intrinsic is 110% premium. Depends which one u want to use.
From ib point of view. They have just made 100% by hedging this in futures mkt.
Thats the yardstick i look at.

OPEC chief says no target price, but oil slide beyond fundamentals
CommoditiesDec 14, 2014 11:28AM GMT 1 Comment
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© Reuters. OPEC Secretary-General al-Badri addresses a news conference after a meeting of OPEC oil ministers at OPEC's headquarters in Vienna
DUBAI (Reuters) - The head of OPEC said on Sunday the group had no target price for oil, signaling no change to a policy to maintain production levels which has contributed to sharp falls in the price of crude, unnerving global markets.
Speaking at an event in Dubai, Abdullah al-Badri said the oil price, which dropped to a succession of five-year lows in recent days, had fallen further than market fundamentals should have dictated.
He urged Gulf states to continue investing in exploration and production, saying the United States would continue to rely on Middle East crude for many years.
The comments were Badri's first since OPEC, or the Organization of the Petroleum Exporting Countries, left its output levels unchanged at a meeting last month, when it also said it had no target price.
"The fundamentals should not lead to this dramatic reduction (in price)," Badri, a Libyan, said in Arabic in remarks made through an English interpreter.
Oil's relentless slide pounded energy stocks and currencies exposed to crude exports on Friday, doused appetite for riskier assets and pushed investors into the safety of government debt despite strong U.S. consumer sentiment.
Adding to the effects of OPEC's unchanged production level, a lower demand growth forecast from the International Energy Agency further put the skids under oil, raising concerns of possible broader negative effects such as debt defaults by companies and countries heavily exposed to crude prices.
There was also talk of the price trend adding to deflation pressures in Europe, increasing bets that the European Central Bank will be forced to resort to further stimulus early next year.
Badri said OPEC sought a price level that was suitable and satisfactory both for consumers and producers, but did not specify a figure. Asked if there was a need for an emergency OPEC meeting before June, Badri smiled and said: "I don't know."
The OPEC chief said November's decision to leave output unchanged was not aimed at any other oil producer, rebutting suggestions it was intended to either undermine the economics of U.S. shale oil production or weaken rival powers closer to home.
"Some people say this decision was directed at the United States and shale oil. All of this is incorrect. Some also say it was directed at Iran. And Russia. This also is incorrect," he said.
However Saudi Arabia's oil minister Ali al-Naimi had told last month's OPEC meeting the organization must combat the U.S. shale oil boom, arguing for maintaining output to depress prices and undermine the profitability of North American producers, said a source who was briefed by a non-Gulf OPEC minister.
Brent crude settled at below $62 a barrel on Friday, more than 45 percent below its 2014 peak, after the world energy watchdog forecast even lower prices on weaker demand and larger supplies next year.
(Reporting by William Maclean; Writing by by John Stonestreet and David Holmes; editing by John Stonestreet)
OPEC chief says no target price, but oil slide beyond fundamentals

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the simplest thing abt valuation of this hb is strike level 1800. means when ci is above 1800 on expiry date, u get zero back from the ib who issued it.

icon. its worth 10c now and selling at 20.5c.

assuming when it expire at nov 2015 the ci is still the same as now, 1733.

how u calc the premium at 3%?

its currently trading at more than double of its spot price. i have never heard something as wild as that.

cassyee, in trading term, if u think ci is to go up, u long futures. by buying futures contract for this month or next month jan, or feb, or may (no liquid), aug. (no liquid)

there r many call warrant cater for buying index up. but all of them at crazy premium, ie. the latest one selling at 35c is at strike price of ci 1800. it practically worthless now.

see how illogical bursa can be? bcos investor are ignorant, hate to use the word. w a t e r f i s h. banyak.

baymax, u r most welcome and thanks for your kind words.

this is not the time to make money by taking risk, but to preserve what you have, and keep your sanity.

btw, hb would gap up on bad dj and gap down on good dj. dont blame me if hb go up. i m only presenting risk vs reward profile.

Posted by Baymax > Dec 14, 2014 09:01 PM | Report Abuse

Thank you optimuss.... In a bear market you shine like a star..... When bull market starts, people will forget u ...don't worry I'll remember the great optimuss hehehe.... Learnt a lot on futures, thanks to you I didn't buy hb :-)

Supermax is the lousiest glove. Buy harta

1. Pretend donno
A. Don read ghost stories
B. Don look at any mkt
C. Be positive.

There is more chance to survive than taking position


Sometimes the best position is to do nothing.

Too late to sell now. And maybe too early to buy. Unless u can keep average. But the priority is to keep yourself calm n poise.
Live n fight ANOTHER day!

Dont dream your daughter can b a miad in china. Too competitive. More so with your daughter horrendous mandarin n laziness.

Anyone still remember mr koon scold me stupid for asking ppls dont listen to him?

Bs. If rapid no more. Ahjib also no more

China on stimulus. Europe to launch mega qe. America consumer confidence above 90. Nikkei 10yr high. Also on mega stimulus.
How bad can the world?
Keep a middle path to think. Don b too extreme.

He is reporting facts. But stock mkt dont trade on fact.
Like he said. Goldman n morgan r the 2 main force that decide oil price. Not the demand n supply.

Too difficult to make a conclusion. Mkt bottom is always when there is a lot of fears. Now i see the fear escalate everyday. Jus wait for tipping point. The sharper it drop the faster it rebound.

Another 20c drop in skp wil only pull down klci 2pts.

2c

Wil drop to 15c.

ingofong 70sen? So low ?
14/12/2014 16:47


unlikely. more like a bottom is forming now.

always like that. ib warrant

A appear, very high premium, public accepted the premium

b then appear, a premium drop, b very high premium, public accept. so public buy a bcos lower premium, so ib distribute a

c then appear, a premium drop further, b also dropping. c very high premium, public think a is a bargain. keep buying, but a started to drop in vol. bcos distributed. b still in distribution.

c, nobody has it yet, all in their hand, have u seen ib offer u the ipo of thier put/call warrant? u cant get it pre-listing. u can only buy from secondary mkt.

this modus operandi has been going on for the last 10yrs at least without changes. there is just endless of greedy waterfish getting trap again n again.

futures industry has no such issue. its purely for hedging, no such thing as distribution and issue new warrants.

buy those who r involved in the supply chain of iphone. very safe.

Posted by skyhawk > Dec 14, 2014 02:23 PM | Report Abuse

connie n all buddies...hv posted a detail analysis of FBMKLCI at my blog...http://silkyhawk.blogspot.com
connie...my ssw5 is revised to 1655 :):):)


one sifu here think klci will drop to 1712 level then rebound to 1770. before it drop to 1655.


ask yourself, another 20pts drop, at 1712, the fair value of hb is 25c.
but when ci go to 1770, the fair value of hb is 16.5c

now is 26.5c, your upside as in intrinsic value? either 26.5-25= minus 1.5c
or 26.5-16.5= minus 10c.

both way not to your risk vs reward.

so my conclusion, it is very risky. i do not say it wont go up. its has gambling component at this level.

again n again here, u r shorting klci, you are not shorting the market. understand?

if i am the govt, i just need to ann a news, reduce tobacco tax to 50% for next 3 yrs, BAT would limit up. thats rm86. nevermind all other non index link drop to 1 cent.

klci only 30 counters. more than 20 controlled by govt tightly. BAT can push up to 80 for year end closing. ci would be 1800 already. get your fact right.

all 970 other counters can go down to 1 cent, and ci can still stay at 1800 if they want. especially year end.

Ooi Teik Bee Ooi Teik Bee
Stock: [PJDEV-WC]: PJ DEVELOPMENT-WARRANTS 10/20
Nov 12, 2014 10:08 PM | Report Abuse

Talk cxxx. I told all readers to buy at 0.61. Can you understand simple English ? Buy and hold for a year until 26/10/2015.

Special note :
This article is a challenge to Optimus who used different IDs to discredit me, if he is a gentleman, please accept this challenge. I will buy PJDev-WC at 0.61, I will check the result on 26/10/2015. If this is still a losing trade for PJDev-WC on 26/10/2015, I will disappear from I3 permanently.


I am not a coward to use other ID to enter or post any article in I3. This is not my character. If I make money from this trade, he will disappear permanently from I3. Please be gentleman, do not use other ID to enter I3.

Optimus claimed that KLSE is a bear market, Sell !! Sell !! Run !! Run !!.
KC Loh, please be my witness and I believe you will be fair to both of us.

If it is a losing trade on 26/10/2015, all readers deserve the right to blame me. I will accept this blame very gentlemanly.












READ THAT? . Optimus claimed that KLSE is a bear market 12 nov 2014

15c temporary only. the real bottom is 10c. check out the history of this company. everytime pump n dump only.

Otb ask everyone tp buy at 1.60. Say next ecoworld.

Below 15c soon

Ifca is not a usd play. Looking to reach 60c soon.
Orion is hiding like usual. He wil only appear to make his bullish prediction when ifca up.
So unfair to his followers

This time mr koon wil tapao ipoh char kway tew for all his fans. Can request big prawn if u praise him more.

Mr kyy like u

Talk good abt this co. Ok. Allowed!
Talk the best. Many ppls here like u.