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2019-06-20 10:27 | Report Abuse
investorking, pls support at 0.18 as u oredy sold armada at 0.21. cash is king now
2019-06-20 10:03 | Report Abuse
investorking, i doubt u sold at 0.21, how u manage to sell at 0.21
2019-06-20 08:26 | Report Abuse
investorking, dont guest since u sold all ur armada. better promote vc, tell us wats good to buy vc
2019-06-19 21:57 | Report Abuse
investorking, anyway congrats to u sold all above 0.205. please support at 0.18
2019-06-19 20:18 | Report Abuse
investorking, i going to support at 0.20
2019-06-19 10:56 | Report Abuse
good luck to investorking, promote armada so many months, end up change direction to vc
2019-06-19 07:17 | Report Abuse
juz bot some at 0.20 yesterday before market closed
2019-06-18 18:32 | Report Abuse
congrats to investorking, we need u. pls support at 0.18-0.19 becoz u sold all above 0.205.
2019-06-18 11:16 | Report Abuse
congrats to vc buyer. now vc oredy 16 cent. up 0.5 cent from the low point
2019-06-18 07:20 | Report Abuse
but investorking oredy gave up at current 0.205
2019-06-17 17:19 | Report Abuse
congrats to investorking, u have successfully sold all ur armada above 0.205
2019-06-17 08:14 | Report Abuse
finally investorking give up at this level
2019-06-17 07:05 | Report Abuse
investorking, u suggest to keep or sell now?
2019-06-14 17:41 | Report Abuse
investorking, epf disposed another 3 mil shares, u keep or sell now
2019-06-14 12:11 | Report Abuse
investorking, u sold 50% armada?
2019-06-14 10:59 | Report Abuse
but u suggest to sell and buy vc
2019-06-14 09:38 | Report Abuse
pearlwhite may be another type of haziq aziz, exposing all.the scandal of armada
2019-06-14 02:01 | Report Abuse
what a sad day, our strong promoter change direction to support vc
2019-06-13 19:50 | Report Abuse
finally investorking give up on armada, congrats to vc
2019-06-13 18:58 | Report Abuse
investorking, armada keep or sell now?
2019-06-13 09:18 | Report Abuse
vc 0.155 now. investorking how now
2019-06-10 07:01 | Report Abuse
investorking, last time u strongly recommend buy vc at 19.5, but anyway congrats u able to get lowest at 15.5. 4 cent gap different
2019-06-07 09:38 | Report Abuse
vc strongly promoted by ik, now up half cent become 0.16
2019-06-05 19:40 | Report Abuse
investorking, when u going to sell off the rest of armada
2019-06-04 15:05 | Report Abuse
investorking, have u sold all ur armada
2019-05-31 17:50 | Report Abuse
investorking, did u sold ur armada
2019-05-31 06:15 | Report Abuse
sold 2 mil shares at 0.21. will get it back if armada go lower today
2019-05-30 21:55 | Report Abuse
investorking, u decide to keep or sell armada now
2019-05-30 13:35 | Report Abuse
investorking, u want sell or keep now
2019-05-30 10:42 | Report Abuse
now i got 16 mil shares, waiting to dispose some at 0.25
2019-05-29 18:52 | Report Abuse
Based on the financial review of Armada with the latest addition of the 2 out of 3 GOOD NEWS, it was determined that (basically, nothing has changed from previously!) :-
PROOF – ARMADA REVENUES ARE NOT ENOUGH TO SETTLE DEBT
PROOF - 14.25 YEARS TO FULLY SETTLE DEBT IF REVENUE STABLE FOREVER BUT ITS FIRM IS ONLY UP TO 6.5 YEARS!
PROOF - NOT ENOUGH TO SETTLE INTEREST AND TAXES
PROOF – ARMADA CANNOT GET ANY MORE FINANCING
Armada’s ability to secure new contracts is likely to be 0%
PROOF - Armada has lost the momentum as a major player since 2014.
PROOF - Armada has been without a business development / sales team since 2014.
PROOF – Armada embroiled in various allegations from various countries including EU and INDONESIA.
PROOF – Armada’s strategic direction is uncertain due to controversies with its major shareholder.
PROOF – Armada’s behavior as a contractor has been one of litigation.
PROOF - You cannot bid for contracts if you do not have donor tankers.
PROOF – Armada’s recent FPSO is a lemon.
6.5 years to go or 27 Quarters to go. RM80 million net profit per Quarter optimistic assumption. That means RM2.1 billion in profits.
Rm20.5 billion confirmed sales for next 6.5 years. Actual operations profit from Rm20.5 billion is around Rm8.5 billion. Rm8.5 billion has to pay for everything under the Gross Profit line. And this doesn't include principle debt payments of Rm12.5 billion. Q results don't matter. And when oil industry recovers in 2030, Armada's assets are nearly 20 years old. End of life.
It is enough to pay off the RM13 billion debts (excluding interest)?
HOW TO MEET THE RM5.5 BILLION DEFICIT???
How much ADDITIONAL new revenue is needed for Armada?
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Around RM13 billion in new sales / revenue.
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That is not going to be achievable for Armada since it no longer has the reputation to get new contracts.
So it’s the crunch time now. What are the options available to the shareholders?
1. Take Armada private
2. Sell Armada
3. Dispose assets to continue to try to survive
1. Taking Armada private
Do you think that the main shareholders want to do so when Armada is an endless money pit with gutter reputation? Finance 101, get rid before you incur more losses.
2. Sell Armada
No one is buying Armada in this market until 2030. And the new shareholders have to deal with an incompetent management.
And new owners have to come up with an additional RM5 billion to pay off its debts.!!
3. Dispose assets to continue to survive
Assets are worth nothing as long as the market doesn’t recover until 2030. The asset are still being valued too high. Disposing assets wouldn’t be enough to settle Armada’s debts anyway.
With the review of the latest results, it was exceeding our expectations. Our view is now further reinforced that Armada will default. How much time left before Armada defaults? It would be next year when it defaults.
Despite the enthusiasm on the following: -
Speculated improvement in cash flows - Insufficient in 2020
Speculated settlement on Claire - Circa 25% of the asking compensation by Armada
Speculated award of new contracts - Nil probability
Speculated sale of assets - Highest bidder bidding at 10% of current NBVs
Armada would not be aggressively pursuing debt restructuring negotiations if the above were not in positive light. A highly anticipated default will still happen.
Given that the option to take private, to sell out and sell assets are not viable for Armada, what route will Armada take in such a event? PN17 and administrators will come in for sure.
We expect that Armada will be broken into many pieces. For the FPSOs, it would be taken over by their respective JV partners and other assets will be sold off to the highest bidder.
We expect institutional funds to lose all investments and creditors will not be paid 80% what is owed to them while debtors will be taken to court wherever possible.
As for the main shareholder, they have already clawed back their investments when they part disposed in 2011/12.
Looks like its "ride the train for as far as you can" before it breaks down.
2019-05-29 12:29 | Report Abuse
investor still win as armada below 0.20 now
2019-05-29 11:19 | Report Abuse
Based on the financial review of Armada with the latest addition of the 2 out of 3 GOOD NEWS, it was determined that (basically, nothing has changed from previously!) :-
PROOF – ARMADA REVENUES ARE NOT ENOUGH TO SETTLE DEBT
PROOF - 14.25 YEARS TO FULLY SETTLE DEBT IF REVENUE STABLE FOREVER BUT ITS FIRM IS ONLY UP TO 6.5 YEARS!
PROOF - NOT ENOUGH TO SETTLE INTEREST AND TAXES
PROOF – ARMADA CANNOT GET ANY MORE FINANCING
Armada’s ability to secure new contracts is likely to be 0%
PROOF - Armada has lost the momentum as a major player since 2014.
PROOF - Armada has been without a business development / sales team since 2014.
PROOF – Armada embroiled in various allegations from various countries including EU and INDONESIA.
PROOF – Armada’s strategic direction is uncertain due to controversies with its major shareholder.
PROOF – Armada’s behavior as a contractor has been one of litigation.
PROOF - You cannot bid for contracts if you do not have donor tankers.
PROOF – Armada’s recent FPSO is a lemon.
6.5 years to go or 27 Quarters to go. RM80 million net profit per Quarter optimistic assumption. That means RM2.1 billion in profits.
Rm20.5 billion confirmed sales for next 6.5 years. Actual operations profit from Rm20.5 billion is around Rm8.5 billion. Rm8.5 billion has to pay for everything under the Gross Profit line. And this doesn't include principle debt payments of Rm12.5 billion. Q results don't matter. And when oil industry recovers in 2030, Armada's assets are nearly 20 years old. End of life.
It is enough to pay off the RM13 billion debts (excluding interest)?
HOW TO MEET THE RM5.5 BILLION DEFICIT???
How much ADDITIONAL new revenue is needed for Armada?
=================================
Around RM13 billion in new sales / revenue.
=================================
That is not going to be achievable for Armada since it no longer has the reputation to get new contracts.
So it’s the crunch time now. What are the options available to the shareholders?
1. Take Armada private
2. Sell Armada
3. Dispose assets to continue to try to survive
1. Taking Armada private
Do you think that the main shareholders want to do so when Armada is an endless money pit with gutter reputation? Finance 101, get rid before you incur more losses.
2. Sell Armada
No one is buying Armada in this market until 2030. And the new shareholders have to deal with an incompetent management.
And new owners have to come up with an additional RM5 billion to pay off its debts.!!
3. Dispose assets to continue to survive
Assets are worth nothing as long as the market doesn’t recover until 2030. The asset are still being valued too high. Disposing assets wouldn’t be enough to settle Armada’s debts anyway.
With the review of the latest results, it was exceeding our expectations. Our view is now further reinforced that Armada will default. How much time left before Armada defaults? It would be next year when it defaults.
Despite the enthusiasm on the following: -
Speculated improvement in cash flows - Insufficient in 2020
Speculated settlement on Claire - Circa 25% of the asking compensation by Armada
Speculated award of new contracts - Nil probability
Speculated sale of assets - Highest bidder bidding at 10% of current NBVs
Armada would not be aggressively pursuing debt restructuring negotiations if the above were not in positive light. A highly anticipated default will still happen.
Given that the option to take private, to sell out and sell assets are not viable for Armada, what route will Armada take in such a event? PN17 and administrators will come in for sure.
We expect that Armada will be broken into many pieces. For the FPSOs, it would be taken over by their respective JV partners and other assets will be sold off to the highest bidder.
We expect institutional funds to lose all investments and creditors will not be paid 80% what is owed to them while debtors will be taken to court wherever possible.
As for the main shareholder, they have already clawed back their investments when they part disposed in 2011/12.
Looks like its "ride the train for as far as you can" before it breaks down.
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2019-06-20 15:48 | Report Abuse
investorking and lisliegoh gave up oredy. anyone else here