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2014-03-02 17:47 | Report Abuse

klci comprises largest 30 companies in msia. even if 800 counter go down, it still go up if 30 companies go up

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2014-03-02 17:43 | Report Abuse

open your wallet and take out ur ic

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2014-03-02 17:42 | Report Abuse

brahims. datasonic short term. wont stop u buy this lousy stock

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2014-03-02 17:36 | Report Abuse

he still holding mudajaya. why he still holding? mr koon is businessman not analyst.

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2014-03-02 17:32 | Report Abuse

will see why

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2014-03-02 17:30 | Report Abuse

rm1.00 also profit. how do you define good profit, my friend? forget this lousy stock.

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2014-03-02 17:24 | Report Abuse

not everyday is good day. save some profit for rainy day

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2014-03-02 17:21 | Report Abuse

Mr Koon picked stock based on business prospect. No fair value

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2014-02-23 17:09 | Report Abuse

When you do something wrong, and try to cover your ass, it always comes back to bite you.
Koon Yew Yin's Blog

A credible person would have stopped embarrasing himself further.
3i Investlah

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2014-02-23 16:28 | Report Abuse

all mui company in red. calvintaneng is good make up story and talk nonsense only. like somesaid, conman,liar,sing kar. no worry, karma will get him back. peace

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2014-02-23 16:18 | Report Abuse

game over. high chance of delisting from bursa. cut loss fast. sell

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2014-02-22 08:21 | Report Abuse

calvintaneng find way to cover this. last time blame cfo for cash payout. he need make up a new story to tell.3i sure laughing at him.

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2014-02-19 09:13 | Report Abuse

Mr Koon, what is your thought on Khoo Kay Peng and MUI Berhad future? You personally know Khoo Kay Peng?

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2014-02-16 17:25 | Report Abuse

F.Y. Revenue ('000) Profit before Tax ('000) Profit ('000)
2012-12-31 27,170 5,582 5,185
2011-12-31 26,399 2,813 2,012
2010-12-31 21,288 (2,045) (2,232)

How do you define a good quarterly sales?
Profit before tax is better than 5M, below or negative?


How about total 2013 Jan-Sep vs 2012 Jan-Sep?
F.Y. Revenue ('000) Profit before Tax ('000)
Jan-Sep 2013 40,307 741 (Excludes factory disposal)
Jan-Sep 2012 58,441 3,103


PMCORP MUST DELIVER 7,944MIL PBT IN Q4 TO MATCH 2012 PBT!!!!

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2014-02-04 13:58 |

Post removed.Why?

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2014-02-04 12:51 |

Post removed.Why?

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2014-01-26 22:29 | Report Abuse

can read bbc news

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2014-01-26 22:24 | Report Abuse

uk based khoo kay peng major holdings under hsbc...most affected if collapse

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2014-01-25 18:03 | Report Abuse

back to question


talkking wat u want us to call u.....no cash payout?????

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2014-01-25 18:03 | Report Abuse

kikikiki, great raider also sell loh

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2014-01-25 18:02 | Report Abuse

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Re: Is there still hope in PMCORP??
« Reply #8 on: January 03, 2014, 06:41:51 PM »

Quote from: cysoo on January 03, 2014, 11:30:03 AM
Can any SIFU tell me if there is still hope in PMCorp?? Phew Phew Sweat Sweat

U should sell some loh....!!

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2014-01-25 17:56 | Report Abuse

wat u want us to call u.....no cash payout?????

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2014-01-25 17:44 | Report Abuse

3i is laughing u for talk nonsense

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2014-01-25 17:43 | Report Abuse

what cash payout?????? kikikiki....

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2014-01-25 17:43 | Report Abuse

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Re: PM CORP(4081) THE BARGAIN OF THE CENTURY!! ###BUY BELOW 14.4 SEN ###
« Reply #509 on: December 02, 2013, 08:38:19 AM »

Quote from: iiinvestsmart on November 20, 2013, 10:15:45 AM

9M 2013 2012 2011 2010 2009 2008

56.4 85.6 80.7 78.6 72.9 125 Revenue
19.4 31.4 25.6 23.4 30.6 46 Gross Prof
24 4.3 3.3 11.5 5.8 6.2 Other Income
23.9 8.7 3.7 -3.7 -0.098 -34.7 PBT

-0.1 4.4 0.4 -15.2 -5.898 -40.9 nPBT*

23.3 8 2.7 -4.5 -1.2 -39.4 Net Prof


355.8 340 334.9 360.9 390 574.6 TA
18.7 24.7 27.7 49.3 58.6 242.9 TL

6.6 14.6 14.7 37.9 40.7 219.9 Total Borrowings
337.1 315.3 307.2 311.6 331.5 331.7 Total Eq


3.28 1.13 0.39 -0.63 -0.17 -5.54 EPS
0.48 0.45 0.43 0.44 0.45 0.45 NAV(RM)

139.6 99.5 60.6 89.1 102.7 304.6 Cash



*Normalised PBT

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2014-01-25 17:42 | Report Abuse

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Re: PM CORP(4081) THE BARGAIN OF THE CENTURY!!
« Reply #507 on: December 01, 2013, 10:27:21 AM »

JeffH

Thank You JeffH. At least you are sensible to let time be the proof.

AND WHAT WOULD I BE CALLED IF CASH PAY OUT GOES THROUGH?

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2014-01-25 17:41 | Report Abuse

Re: PM CORP(4081) THE BARGAIN OF THE CENTURY!!
« Reply #502 on: December 01, 2013, 09:44:00 AM »

The PMCorp party is over. It will soon go into another 7 year hibernation. This stock was only 9s in January this year. At 26 s it has definitely moved up more than 150%. My guess is that it will probably end the year at 22s or 23s. It may test support at 18s next month. Volume has been dwindling after the last euphoria, suggesting play is over, at least in the near term.
Unfortunately this stock has been overly promoted by those who has fallen in love with it. The price to pay when in love? Holding on to another 7 years before the next play. ...
This is definitely NOT smart investing.

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2014-01-25 17:36 | Report Abuse

pay interest loan only forever....never finish loan....zzzzzzzzzz

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2014-01-25 17:22 | Report Abuse

MUIB and PMCorp: a horrible deal from the past
"Ze Moola" attended me on a old corporate exercise from the MUIB stable. The "independent" report can be found here:

http://announcements.bursamalaysia.com/EDMS/subweb.nsf/7f04516f8098680348256c6f0017a6bf/afd99bbf47849e5848256f2b001970f4/$FILE/PMCorp-Circular.pdf

In short, Malayan United Industries Bhd. (MUIB) had borrowed RM 1,067,000,000 from related party Pan Malaysia Corporation (PMCorp), if would not or could not pay the amount back, a horrible and highly unsatisfactory situation for PMCorp shareholders.

The only thing MUIB could do is hive of some assets to PMCorp, but it decided to give the PMCorp shareholders shares in MUIB. Problem was that MUIB's shares were trading at only RM 0.185, that would mean that PMCorp were entitled to about 6 billion MUIB shares. Aparantly that was not what the Majority Shareholders of MUIB had in mind, therefore an ingenious scheme was designed. A pretty complicated one so that most Minority Investors would not be able to see through it. Instead of shares it would give ICULS, Irredeemable Convertible Unsecured Loan Stocks. These are Irredeemable, in other words they can not be redeemed for cash, you can (or will, there is no choice) somewhere in the future convert them 1:1 for MUI shares. They don't pay dividend like shares but interest, but even this would be paid in even more ICULS. This looks already bad for PMCorp shareholders, instead of cold hard cash they would get shares in a company that had been making huge losses over the last years. But what is simply amazing is the small number of ICULS they would receive, instead of the about 6 billion one would expect (RM 1,067 million divided by RM 0.185 = 5.8 Billion), they received less that 1.3 Billion ICULS. Minority Shareholders of PMCorp were thus hugely short changed, for more than RM 800 million.

The "independent" report from Hwang-DBS Securities Bhd. was of extremely low quality, I won't bother writing what was wrong with it (about everything), will just give their conclusion:

Let's check their arguments:

(i) The par value of MUIB shares: the par value has nothing to do with valuation. The fact that the NAV of a MUIB shares is way below the par value means it has accumulated huge losses, which is an indication of a badly managed company. By even suggesting the par value HWANG-DBS is simply deceiving Minority Investors.

(ii) The ICULS can only be converted to shares in the future: that is a disadvantage, not an advantage.

(iii) The future prospects of the MUIB group: the report was dated 12 Oct 2004, MUIB was thoroughly mismanaged, had lost Billions of RM, why would that suddenly improve? The results since then:

2004: RM -405 million
2005: RM -371 million
2006: RM -210 million
2007: RM +10 million
2008: RM -74 million
2009: RM +3 million
2010: RM +36 million

In total: losses of more than RM 1 Billion.

And what happened with the proposal and the circular? It was (as usual) approved by the authorities (Bursa Malaysia and/or Securities Commission), and neither the directors of PMCorp, MUIB or the "independent" advisor Hwang/DBS were ever punished in any way, shape or form.

Needless to say, the quality of the "independent" advice circulars in Malaysia has further gone down, 99% of them shamelessly support the Majority Shareholders, no matter how bad the deal is for the Minority Shareholders: "Whose bread I eat, his song I sing". And up to this very day, the authorities have not bothered to come down on the advisers.

Recommendation: Do away with the "independent" advice, it is hurting Minority Shareholder, not helping them.

MUIIND is currently trading at RM 0.21, the MUI ICULS are all trading at RM 0.17, PMCORP is at RM 0.09, PMIND at for RM 0.045 and PMCAP at for 0.085.

The renumeration for MUIB's Chairman and Chief Executive, Tan Sri Dato' Khoo Kay Peng, is more than RM 3.2 million a year.

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2014-01-25 17:21 | Report Abuse

wat u talk...

For calling Iinvestmart Smart "Tortoise" I was banned in Investlah Forum = character defamation loh

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2014-01-25 17:18 | Report Abuse

yes, tar wu ying pmcorp mui berhad....

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2014-01-25 10:08 | Report Abuse

ok lah,out lah

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2014-01-25 10:03 | Report Abuse

huh?iris price dun justify price,let earnings propel share price...pmcorp mana ade earnings...mui all red color...sell pmcorp mui berhad first....coconut jatuh on ur head....kikiki

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2014-01-25 09:58 | Report Abuse

huh??'wher got 2nd board anymore bursa.....

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2014-01-24 23:59 | Report Abuse

ringgit malaysia weakening

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2014-01-24 23:56 | Report Abuse

xdl in the edge today

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2014-01-24 23:53 | Report Abuse

shangri la today top gainer bursa

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2014-01-24 23:49 | Report Abuse

nadal beat federer in australi open

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2014-01-24 23:46 | Report Abuse

dow turun 170. scare little

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2014-01-24 23:40 | Report Abuse

any footie fan here....