Posted by NIBIRU_T > 2016-02-10 14:59 | Report Abuse

Angielim9955, still holding H5 and waiting to sale @ 0.020 ? US fed meeting today, high possibility maintain interest rates unchanged. DJI & global share markets will up tommorow, H5 may slide further to 0.010 ~ 0.015. better cut loss today, throw whatever you have now. don't look back...

Posted by kakashi > 2016-02-10 15:33 | Report Abuse

Haha, Angie, u pump in a lot into H5? Well, make ur own decision.
My main puts are in HW

Posted by popcorn > 2016-02-10 15:35 | Report Abuse

HSI-C13 is super undervalued.... Hong Kong market not open today, got many panic seller... fast to grab it now~

Posted by Angielim9955 > 2016-02-10 23:46 | Report Abuse

NIBIRU_T : hi NIBIRU_T , yes I still hold ,will sell tomorrow at 0.02, last time I bougth 0.05, will cut loss soon.

kakashi : hi kakashi , not much just a few k of ringgit only , haha, but rugi on this H5,
kakashi you claim your main put is HW, what is HW call or put warrant ?

Posted by Angielim9955 > 2016-02-11 00:37 | Report Abuse

kakashi : thanks for advice maybe will sell it and hold C12 , or hold it and sell C12.\
but like me checked all you guys comment first ,
haha, I seem very pro, actually I only act like pro , because I already loss a few K on put and call warrants .

Posted by kakashi > 2016-02-11 11:04 | Report Abuse

Hi Angie, I put about 4k into H5. Average price 0.18. HW is put warrant. H = put, C = Call
Well, Nibiru says market will up today after Fed's statement last night. Well, that is wrong. Market is down. So, we can only predict at best and thus, make your own decision.
Going into Call warrant (C12) might not be a good option from my opinion. I just had a feeling KLSE is pricy at 1640 points from all the global slowdown and oil price. Next week we shall see if KLSE can sustain above 1600 or will go below. Retailers still on holiday this week.
Finger cross, I am "predicting" KLSE to go below 1600 this month.

Posted by BC Lo > 2016-02-11 18:37 | Report Abuse

Why this KLCI so hard & strong? Tak turun-turun!!!

Posted by traderman > 2016-02-11 18:39 | Report Abuse

klci will go 1700 next week when china market resume

Posted by Angielim9955 > 2016-02-11 23:38 | Report Abuse

kakashi, agreed with you, I will careful, thanks

Posted by GTBee > 2016-02-12 11:17 | Report Abuse

volume coming...!

Posted by tanbb > 2016-02-12 11:18 | Report Abuse

kesian

Posted by BC Lo > 2016-02-12 14:23 | Report Abuse

useless KLCI, if i buy HSI-HQ, i already earn many rounds lo....

Posted by Angielim9955 > 2016-02-12 19:30 | Report Abuse

kakashi :
Hi kakashi , I need your help,
Do you know Y today klciindex dropped , but this H5 - PUT WARRANTS also dropped one.
As my understanding if Index drop, this H5 should be up instead of drop ?

do you know why ah ?

Posted by nibiru_t > 2016-02-13 00:03 | Report Abuse

Angielim9955, this is money games between operators ~ retailer. we wants their money they also need our money to survive...ada keluar mesti juga ada masuk, kalau keluar sahaja tak ada masuk, operators akan `lingkop' la. still holding ? better cut loss before -> `0'

Posted by nibiru_t > 2016-02-13 00:18 | Report Abuse

Angelim9955, your basic price is @ 0.050, what you can do for next monday is release @ 0.010 soonest possible. otherwise may ended @ 0.005

Posted by Angielim9955 > 2016-02-13 00:28 | Report Abuse

nibiru_t:

ya nibiru_t , I undersatnd you,
but if next week index kl still drop, this put warrant share sure will
rising up one wor ?

Posted by nibiru_t > 2016-02-13 00:32 | Report Abuse

Angielim9955,
Posted by CASHFLOW @ C22 thread,

It's merely opposite. The bank does not have obligation but the bank set's the mathematics on the product. Yes I know the product get's endorsed by Bursa, etc, but based on experience, there is never been an easy way to get out once you enter warrants. Reason is, the mathematics are set to trap you and chance to go out only determined by volume, volatility and heartbeat.

29/01/2016 12:22

Posted by nibiru_t > 2016-02-13 00:41 | Report Abuse

Angielim9955, for your future use...

POSTED BY Shellhouse @ C22 thread,

Which is exactly the reason why there is such high risk involved. The market always has other plans. But if I were the bank I will take advantage of demand. Its not possible for us retailers to fight a financial institution with unlimited supply of bullets.

I suggest for future, try asking yourself what YOU THINK the index will be at MATURITY date. Then judge for yourself if the current price is too high/low.

Structured warrants are ALWAYS a gamble. you're essentially betting on a higher or lower index/stock price. You stand a 50/50 chance. If you're bullish get the CALLs.If youre bearish, get the PUTs.

Its called a "PREMIUM" for a reason.

29/01/2016 12:27

Posted by Angielim9955 > 2016-02-14 20:25 | Report Abuse

nibiru_t : hi there. Thanks for your advice and opinion.
Tomorrow will selk all this counter as the exercise price 1500 seem not very benefit for me.will sell asap.
However brother . If you don't mind can help me as follow :
As I know if on maturity date if index above 1500 I get nothing.
But if index fall on 1500 .IS THIS MEANS I BREAK EVEN.
since the exercise price is 1500 so I think if expired on 1500,then I will get back my capital ?
AM MY VIEW OF POINT CORRECT OR WRONG ?

Posted by nibiru_t > 2016-02-15 10:32 | Report Abuse

Angielim9955, nope ! you can only see your money if index drops till 1489 points based on current price of 0.015. your basic cost prices is @ 0.050 means you'll get `telur ayam' -> 0

Posted by kakashi > 2016-02-15 17:18 | Report Abuse

Angie,
When we buy H5, it is purely a trading game. The value is not there because of maturity date and because of the strike value.

Expiry: 31 March (about 40 days left)
Strike value: 1500

So, we can only earn if FKLI drop below 1500 before end of March, which is a "big task". That's why you see although FKLI drop or increase marginally, people still selling H5.
Therefore, 2 things you can do.

1. Really hold until KLSE drop below 1600 (that time H5 should attract some traders) and then u sell at maybe 0.03 or so
2. Cut loss at 0.010 ~ 0.015

I've seen warrants that is almost mati (expiry date) and still make significant movement last minute. This might or might not happen. So, if you willing to loss all your $$, then you can gamble on this. Otherwise, cut loss if you cant take it.

Posted by kakashi > 2016-02-15 17:30 | Report Abuse

Angie,
I am holding RM4k in H5 at around 0.017 average price. Therefore, if I sell at 0.01, I still can get back about 50% of my stocks. So far I haven't sell but to get back half of my money is still good.
So, if I don't see downtrend movement to 1600, then I will sell at 0.01 to get back half.

Let say you buy RM4k at 0.05 and if you sell at 0.01, you only get back RM700++.
so, you have to make decision:

1. Sell immediately at 0.01 and get back RM700 (or 18% of your money)
2. Gamble all and ready to loss all RM4000 and wait for KLSE to drop to 1600 to sell at 0.03 maybe. Then you can get back RM2000++ (55% of your money)

Lets exchange email. Mine is kakashi123_hatake@hotmail.com

Posted by nibiru_t > 2016-02-15 19:11 | Report Abuse

Angielim9955, still holding H5 ? if yes, you might not have the chance to sell @ 0.010 tommorow if DJI up tonight. high possibility bursa index will be in green tommorow. what's your decision ?

Posted by nibiru_t > 2016-02-15 19:44 | Report Abuse

KAKISAHAM, sudah masuk pertegahan bulan kedua 2016, apa keadaan tuan ? harga minyak mentah sedunia naik sebegitu ketara sekali masa kini disebabkan tekaan arab saudi akan tunduk dan mengurangkan penghasilan minyak mentah negaranya untuk meninggikan harga minyak mentah dunia. ini mungkin 'TIDAK' kepada iran atau kedua-dua negara tersebut. harga minyak mentah akan menjunam ke paras lebih rendah berbanding sekarang. apa pendapat tuan ?

Posted by kakisaham > 2016-02-15 19:57 | Report Abuse

Aiyo Bro Nibiru...gua dan KAQ sekalang main HSI....adalah sedikit sebanyak keuntungan.....Gua tak berapa pandai dgn minyak ni..Ilmu tentang minyak gua tak sempat menuntut.....kikiki. Apa macam pun gua yakin minyak akan kembali pulih dalam tempoh terdekat...minta maaf lah kalu salah cakap sebab Wa baca setakat sekolah rendah je...kikiki

Posted by nibiru_t > 2016-02-15 21:53 | Report Abuse

KAKISAHAM, hamba tidak pernah terlibat dalam padang warrant HSI, hamba akan meneliti dan cuba melibatkan diri suatu hari nanti. mana tahu ia berkemungkinan bawa `ONG'...

Posted by kakisaham > 2016-02-15 21:58 | Report Abuse

Iklas hamba cakap...HSI hit n run....boleh buat duit punya...hamba tiap2 hari ada masssuuuuk....kikiki

Posted by tanbb > 2016-02-15 22:05 | Report Abuse

ong ong...bagus tu

Posted by nibiru_t > 2016-02-15 22:13 | Report Abuse

KAKISAHAM, wah ! kalau betul cakap tuan, hamba akan mula meneliti HSI keesokan hari, terimakasih hamba ucapkan kerana dorongan tuan untuk hamba jalan baharu menuju lombong emas.

Posted by kakisaham > 2016-02-15 22:21 | Report Abuse

Bro Nibiru...pada hemat hamba itu FBMKLCI dah tak boleh main sekalang...Lu tengok lah...indek naik ka indek jatuh ka,mana dia naik....moh ikut gua ke padang HSI...boleh kayo oi....papa pun boleh juga...kikiki

Posted by nibiru_t > 2016-02-15 22:28 | Report Abuse

KAKISAHAM, betui juga cakap tuan, satu padang berkemungkinan membolehkan kita kaya atau sebaliknya. oleh kerana itu hamba akan meneliti padang HSI buat satu masa sebelum masuk...

Posted by Warriorinvestor > 2016-02-16 13:24 | Report Abuse

It will be burnt!

Posted by Angielim9955 > 2016-02-17 00:56 | Report Abuse

kakashi & kakashi nibiru_t thanks your guys advise , I already sold on monday by 0.01 and I loss 80%, because i in 0.05.

nibiru_t :
nibiru_t why you so clever one, you predicted today index will rise exactly right wor,
how you predicted one, teach me abit , let me get a little Ang Pow money from you mah , haha

Posted by Angielim9955 > 2016-02-17 01:03 | Report Abuse

kakashi : my email kena spoilt by other peolple kena hack, let me create a new one then I add u ,
sorry for late reply and I already cut loss at 0,01 total loss 80% as you predicted .
seem so many sifu here , got any put warrant can recommend , because I predicted index will down next month, just my sense la, so next month salary 2k I will buy put warrant again ,
kakashi got any cantik put warrant recommend like long expired date one

Posted by kakashi > 2016-02-17 12:40 | Report Abuse

I am looking at HW. In fact I just pump into HW at 0.225. But its a bit weird because I see a lot of transaction at 0.225. I am not sure who is selling and buying. Seems like exchanging hands.
Its very hard to predict, I expect KLSE to drop last week when world stock is correcting, but KLSE stood strong.
Nonetheless, I am looking at correction soon again because of the strong rebound of oil price, oil palm and RM. speculating that all these will drop soon. Coupled with financial report month in Feb. Next week we will show companies financial results and most likely not to be good.
KLSE is also going into resistance area, so finger cross.

Posted by Angielim9955 > 2016-02-17 15:23 | Report Abuse

kakashi ：thnaks for sharing , I will follow you buy as I still very newbie, haha
thanks for the advice as well, you r so kind lol.
however youe HW is HK index or KL index

Posted by popcorn > 2016-02-17 15:24 | Report Abuse

support 0650HO, come come~

Posted by nibiru_t > 2016-02-17 16:20 | Report Abuse

KAKISAHAM, berpandukan kepada pergerakan di padang HSI, hamba perhati lombong emas di sana jauh lebih dalam & tidak menentu berbanding di sini. boleh terkambus `anytime'. entahlah hamba sudah banyiak kehilangan modal di padang lain dan sekarang hamba bagaikan `tupai terbakar ekor' sudah serik dan berhati-hati bilakala menghadapi keadaan sedemikian. untuk pengetahuan tuan `MMAG' yang dahulunya `ingenco' sudah bangun, tidur, bangun lagi beberapa hari ini dan berkemungkinan akan bangun tinggi masa akan datang...harap tuan dapat ambil perhatian.

Posted by kakashi > 2016-02-17 22:32 | Report Abuse

Angie, please don't follow me yet, that is just my personal trading.

Posted by kakisaham > 2016-02-17 23:08 | Report Abuse

bro Nibiru...ok

Posted by NIBIRU_T > 2016-02-19 06:43 | Report Abuse

The U.S. now has nearly 503 million barrels of commercial crude oil stockpiled, It's the highest level of supply for this time of the year in at least 80 years.

Posted by cashflow > 2016-02-22 16:09 | Report Abuse

Index playing fool again, market being propped up with poor data.

Posted by NIBIRU_T > 2016-02-22 18:20 | Report Abuse

cashflow, still holding H27 ? if yes, what's your basic prices ?

Posted by nibiru_t > 2016-02-23 15:13 | Report Abuse

a lot of H53 paid promoters...

Posted by kingcobra > 2016-02-23 15:22 | Report Abuse

not worth buying those so called PUT WARRANTS 'cos klci trends are weird nowadays!

Posted by kingcobra > 2016-02-23 15:23 | Report Abuse

GO FOR OIL COMPANIES!!!!!!!!

Posted by nibiru_t > 2016-02-23 15:25 | Report Abuse

why all paid promoters erased ? most of them female crocodiles...

Posted by nibiru_t > 2016-02-23 15:40 | Report Abuse

KAKISAHAM, hamba nampak 3 ekor `buaya betina' muncul di sini. keinginan mereka mendorong kita ke `H53' tapi mereka hilang secara tiba tiba selepas melepaskan `posting' dalam masa yang singkat. apa pendapat tuan berkenaan H53 ?

Posted by kakisaham > 2016-02-23 15:46 | Report Abuse

minta ampun,minta maaf,wahai sahabat Nibiru,hamba tak monitor...tak dapatlah hamba nak cakap apa..moga2 tuan hamba tiada masaalah

Posted by nibiru_t > 2016-02-23 16:06 | Report Abuse

KINGCOBRA, noted. thanks...