Posted by MrNobody > 2015-07-01 10:13 | Report Abuse

i do not say simon84 is lousy or not good.

all i said is, what is the purpose of everyday predicting klci and when wrong make a different huge directional prediction.

it is no use other than creating fear and greet and regret

Posted by Fardar Chye > 2015-07-01 10:16 | Report Abuse

erm... mr nobody.. good morning to you..

i may wanna say no body in i3 is Dato Kong that can predict 4d numbers accurately... even sometimes Dato Kong also don give u the exact 4 numbers...

but to buy or not to buy the 4numbers is up to u.. plus if u think that u can have a better 4 numbers, share with us, we are having open ears to listen =)

Posted by k8118k > 2015-07-01 10:16 | Report Abuse

for me, Simon84 is positive force.

Posted by Fardar Chye > 2015-07-01 10:18 | Report Abuse

abang k8118k.. long time no see u here lei... how are u?

i think we may not agree with each other a lot of times too.. but important is to bring disagreement into positive discussion isnt it?

Posted by MrNobody > 2015-07-01 10:19 | Report Abuse

so this thread is all about predicting 4d? great

Posted by k8118k > 2015-07-01 10:19 | Report Abuse

@FC, I am fine. tq

Posted by MrNobody > 2015-07-01 10:19 | Report Abuse

positive discusssion means what? giving compliments?

Posted by MrNobody > 2015-07-01 10:21 | Report Abuse

Simon84-Dow Jones,Oil,KLCI Discussion



read the thread title. discussion of dj, oil, klci.

not blind prediction.

Posted by MrNobody > 2015-07-01 10:22 | Report Abuse

Posted by simon84 > Jun 30, 2015 07:10 AM | Report Abuse

Good morning guys.

Today Greece due date
Any miracle ?

KLCI going to test 1670 today if Greece no miracle happening.



ans: greece no miracle happen on due date. yet klci still rocket.

Posted by alibabacoming > 2015-07-01 10:24 | Report Abuse

mr nobody what you want to hear? can you elaborate your point?

Posted by MrNobody > 2015-07-01 10:25 | Report Abuse

tomorrow if klci drop to 1720. he is gonna come out and said

klci yesterday rally is due to technical rebound, now in overbought territory and may retest 1700. if 1700 failed to hold, we may see 1670 again.

then on thursday, if klci continue to go up.

klci shows strong uptrend, my earlier prediction of 1775 may be achieved before raya festival...


my friends, what is the use of all these? i m not attacking you, i m encouraging you to divert your energy and talent to better use.

Posted by Fardar Chye > 2015-07-01 10:25 | Report Abuse

mr nobody, chill out, cool down.. don get me wrong ya..

1. i am quoting an example.. not describing what is inside this forum...

2. positive discussion simply means that we voice out why would we disagree with the statement that others made, EXAMPLE:

A: today CI will up to 5000 points. because *some VIP* just provide the statement of earnings of country for 10trillion based on projects we completed in 1st half of 2015
B: hi A, i think it wont go up to 5000 points, it will go down to 500 points because it has been proven that the 1st half project is all a haox, a scam, it has taken all our EPF and tabung haji money and all the banks are planning to shut down in the afternoon.

(purely quoting some extreme examples in terms of figures and incidents for understanding, based on fictionary statements and not referring to any actual or real case)

Posted by MrNobody > 2015-07-01 10:27 | Report Abuse

your title is klci discussion mah.


eg, we should discuss, at 1690 monday closed, is our klci oversold too much? what should be the strategy?

maybe we should look into klci-call warrant. or beaten down stocks due to the massive fears.

we should discuss the strategy in dealing with the situation. and not predicting the situation.

Posted by MrNobody > 2015-07-01 10:29 | Report Abuse

fardar, i agree with you. discusssion la. brainstorming la.

dont treat this as a 4d prediction site. no use. i hope i can participate into productive discussion, nevermind ppls scold me, i wellcome scolding. make me think better.

Posted by alibabacoming > 2015-07-01 10:31 | Report Abuse

siao ah, where got so much strategy to discuss when the market up and down. either you cut or buy thats all.

Posted by alibabacoming > 2015-07-01 10:31 | Report Abuse

penny stocks are going to run soon, please tight your seat belt

Posted by Fardar Chye > 2015-07-01 10:31 | Report Abuse

haha bro nobody.. u r posting too many questions in 1 go.. let me answer ur question 1 by 1...

1. "read the thread title. discussion of dj, oil, klci. not blind prediction."

Ans: yes, its a discussion instead, so no 1 in the forum shall give u direct INSTRUCTION on wat u should do and wat u should buy, but if some1 does it, its out of his efforts with "non-blind" TA and FA review and not plug from the sky. it should be appreciated u know, and appreciation doesnt mean we must folo watever the person says. decision stil at ur hand.

2. "my friends, what is the use of all these? i m not attacking you, i m encouraging you to divert your energy and talent to better use."

Ans: we are all learning, and nobody is perfect (nobody in this context not mean u ya..).. as we all are learning means we exchange views and enhance each other for future battle.. we are quoting ourselves here as a team / family.. and i don even think of if our teammembers make a unrealistic statements, others will remain silen, we will exchange views for continuous improvement.. and im sure criticizing each others is breaking the team apart, but commenting and sharing views will improve the team knowledge and relationship...

Posted by MrNobody > 2015-07-01 10:33 | Report Abuse

ie today klci rocket 30pts.

we should discuss, is this 30pts represent the relieve rally from fitch bad expectation?

what if the 30pts doesnt hold and what would happen to stocks. (stock is what everyone playing, not index)

what if the 30pts hold and go up further, what counter should we be looking? what would be the effect to ringgit as it is showing some strenght now, and what happen to those exporters stock that benefit from weaker ringgit. bla bla.

Posted by Fardar Chye > 2015-07-01 10:33 | Report Abuse

mr nobody, i apologize if i cause any misunderstanding to u.. many many sorry ya.. hahaha.. my engulish not so good la.. so sometimes i will read and write wrongly.. paiseh paiseh.. hehe

Posted by region > 2015-07-01 10:33 | Report Abuse

some line we call as foreseeable trend... some is unforeseeable trend...due to uncertainty of market issue,new etc. this uncertainty and volatile might influence the TA movement and outcome line. up or down trend will change anytime with any moment.

Posted by alibabacoming > 2015-07-01 10:34 | Report Abuse

yeah, i don't wish to be those expert discuss like macam pro tapi bukan.

Posted by region > 2015-07-01 10:35 | Report Abuse

no one can guess 100% correct guys..cheer and happy thursday

Posted by MrNobody > 2015-07-01 10:37 | Report Abuse

nobody expect you to guess right. but back up with logic and latest trend la.

Posted by Fardar Chye > 2015-07-01 10:38 | Report Abuse

exactly, as i know.. today fitch rating and the improvement of MYR is good news for bursa and increased confidence level of investment..

however i have a few concern whether this rainbow will shine thru in longer term like after raya or august due to a few reasons:

1. most immediate is greece issue, altho the newsline had repeatedly reported that greece issue shall not impact our sharemarket, but i still skeptical because if greece habis cerita, USD may be the next interest and as value of USD increase, we are looking at importation costs, but still benefits the exports business.

2. US interest hike. im not sure how many investors (bilis-scale like me) are aware on this.. but once the interest hike is on during 3Q meeting by federal, im sure the impact is huge enuf to shake us..

3. 1MDB issues. resolved? no. with the cinematic level of performance by how the issues been temporarily resolved is not resolved. so it shall continue to contribute as bad sentiments to sharemarket..

my view la... if i am wrong, please correct me ya.

Posted by region > 2015-07-01 10:39 | Report Abuse

MrNoboy trend like i say can change the pattern any moment and if we predict 4 hour ago...this hour might change olide

Posted by Fardar Chye > 2015-07-01 10:41 | Report Abuse

region, i agree with u... call me buying big-small (which is not the spirit of this forum).. i am buying increment of bursa will cut down below 20pts, 1723-1724 is my target...

Posted by region > 2015-07-01 10:42 | Report Abuse

wow u see put warrant Hk even drop to 9c but all ppl grab like no tomorrow lolx....just now big discount hehe....but i see different path guy i guess tomoro will slide back...window dressing also until 30 June'15 only ma...right? i still on defensive position to short lolx

Posted by Fardar Chye > 2015-07-01 10:43 | Report Abuse

curi2 tell u region.. just now i grabbed .95 as well... wakkakakaa

Posted by MrNobody > 2015-07-01 10:43 | Report Abuse

fardar, correct la, think of the implication of present mkt situation and deduce what may happen. we all know klci is rigged. its up to the govt.

i hate to say this again. the govt can park the klci in 1800 NOW. even if they wanted it.

does anyone here buy indexed stock? none i believe.

the most are punting on klci call warrant or put warrant. as u know they are worst than casino.

all carry with them ridiculous premium and short tenure.

Posted by region > 2015-07-01 10:44 | Report Abuse

i bet not posible Hk drop back to 5c if it does i sure sapu like no tomorow lolx...hehehe

Posted by region > 2015-07-01 10:45 | Report Abuse

high five fardar hehe....

Posted by Fardar Chye > 2015-07-01 10:47 | Report Abuse

yes mr nobody, i also damn sh*t f*cking hate this... if they wan it, they will do it like nobody business..

but i hope i clarfies the spirit in this particular forum called "Dow Jones,Oil,KLCI Discussion". where 1 of the description of this forum is "Please do respect and do not attack each other in this group. Treat everyone here as Family.
Our main objective is to make money and not make enemy. "..

i can feel u also have some sights onto our sharemarket ma.. come often and share like a family / frens. i personally welcome u to come over even with doubts or disagreement, then we can discuss over and widen our views ma... ngam bo?

Posted by MrNobody > Jul 1, 2015 10:43 AM | Report Abuse
i hate to say this again. the govt can park the klci in 1800 NOW. even if they wanted it.

Posted by region > 2015-07-01 10:48 | Report Abuse

emmm how to say this? warrant not really like casino one...is about foreseeable matter. forecasting.... for example i buy HK on Mar'15 then average it down till 5c plus....like i mention in this forum long ago June will be big drop that y i on hold even it lossing paper money...now my 5c become 10.5c...Hehehe i not sell yet becos i forecast Early Aug'15 is the mass sell off...before September ...we shall see is achieve or not..not 100% buy high change of posibility .

Posted by Fardar Chye > 2015-07-01 10:48 | Report Abuse

wakaka... high five! and we always said in dota term "n1!"

Posted by region > Jul 1, 2015 10:45 AM | Report Abuse

high five fardar hehe....

Posted by alibabacoming > 2015-07-01 10:49 | Report Abuse

i agreed with mrnobody, don't waste time on those wat put and call.

just open futures account shoot directly! straight forward.

Posted by alibabacoming > 2015-07-01 10:50 | Report Abuse

1 points 50 dollar, 2 lots, today earn 20 points, 2k.

Posted by Fardar Chye > 2015-07-01 10:51 | Report Abuse

lol bro ali.. i admire ur bravery, but bilis like me cannot so brave wan la.. must curi2 heheheheh

Posted by alibabacoming > Jul 1, 2015 10:49 AM | Report Abuse

i agreed with mrnobody, don't waste time on those wat put and call.

just open futures account shoot directly! straight forward.

Posted by MrNobody > 2015-07-01 10:54 | Report Abuse

to all aspired traders.

futures mkt is where you should pay attention rather than stock mkt...
you should put 80% energy on futures and 20% on stocks.
when you are good. use the profit you make from futures and invest into stocks. (so u dont have to trade stocks)


do you want to know why?

Posted by alibabacoming > 2015-07-01 10:56 | Report Abuse

wah, mrnobody i like your comments:

___


to all aspired traders.

futures mkt is where you should pay attention rather than stock mkt...
you should put 80% energy on futures and 20% on stocks.
when you are good. use the profit you make from futures and invest into stocks. (so u dont have to trade stocks)


do you want to know why?

Posted by alibabacoming > 2015-07-01 10:59 | Report Abuse

fadar, you can just wait a good chance like today only go in long right? scare you can't control only then everyday in and out out and in haha.

Posted by alibabacoming > 2015-07-01 11:00 | Report Abuse

if and only if greece exit europe then you short like no tomorrow right? HAHA

Posted by MrNobody > 2015-07-01 11:01 | Report Abuse

stock trading is already old fashioned....(stocks is mostly for pumping and dumping and recollect to pumping and dumping if u want to believe)

in developed countries, most ppls incl uncle aunties from pasar, teksi driver, toilet cleaner, lawyer, politician bla bla.

already traded futures since donkey years ago.

they would only invest in stock. and trade futures.

here, in moronland. everybody look at stocks, less than 1% look at futures.
even less than 0.1% trade futures.

Posted by Fardar Chye > 2015-07-01 11:03 | Report Abuse

wakakaka ali, yes yes i get wat u meant.. but i cannot la.. i got very bad habit.. i easily get addicted with things.. and i am only part timer in bursa so cannot always monitor closely.. not like today can snake snake and chit chat in i3 ma... i congratz ur huat huat can la... member happy.. we also tumpang happy ma.... heheh

Posted by alibabacoming > Jul 1, 2015 10:59 AM | Report Abuse

fadar, you can just wait a good chance like today only go in long right? scare you can't control only then everyday in and out out and in haha.

if and only if greece exit europe then you short like no tomorrow right? HAHA

Posted by MrNobody > 2015-07-01 11:04 | Report Abuse

stocks has 1000 stocks, each has its own stories and different fundamental, no gearing.

futures, you only take care of your basket. put all your money in 1 basket and take good care of it.

stocks, you have 10 stocks and everyday you have to read 10 different stock stories of x 3 different versions.

then u have to gauge IF index will go up or not

then why not straight go into index?

Posted by Fardar Chye > 2015-07-01 11:05 | Report Abuse

bro nobody, correct me if i am wrong ya.. index also need to take care 30baskets right?

Posted by MrNobody > 2015-07-01 11:07 | Report Abuse

ok, now you are good, 3 days ago u thnk klci will stage a strong rebound. and yes, it came, up 50pts in 2 days. so u have bought the stock 3 days ago.


guess what?
your stock still coma. no price for guessing correct klci will strong rebound. you make no money. why?

bcos u bet on the stock that is 1 out of 1000. and u didnt bet on index.

but the beautiful thing abt stock is, you tell yourself you are INVESTING

Posted by forum8080 > 2015-07-01 11:07 | Report Abuse

Hi to everyone, when we come to any forums (stock, cars, phones, beauty, +++) because we are looking for some info or more info.
Yes, if we look for car/phone/computer forums. Many experts/users will give you pro and cons of the products they have experienced.
In stock forum, we can literary/eventually understand how other people look at the market trend (up or down). We come to forum because we hope we can gain (no one wants to make a loss).
For my personal experience, I must say I'm one of the Simon84 supporters. Not because he predicts right or wrong, but he is willing to share what he sees/thinks.
Anyone has his/her talent, person like Simon84 or any bloggers / forum owners, they spend their time to trade and do posting.
Most people out there, just post they are making $$ or they curse a particular stock due to making a huge loss.
In stock market, there's no right or wrong answer. Hope everyone trade with care either in bull or bear market.
Be nice to people because life is short.
Cheers everyone !

Posted by MrNobody > 2015-07-01 11:08 | Report Abuse

fardar, no, in index, u only look at index as the 30 stocks movement cancel each other out to form a direction.

Posted by MrNobody > 2015-07-01 11:10 | Report Abuse

as u can see today, almost all indexed stock up in 1 same direction. and on monday, almost all indexed stocks down in 1 same direction, the only different is the quantum of their movement. but direction mostly same.


Posted by Fakoptimus > Jul 1, 2015 11:07 AM | Report Abuse

Wakakakakaka.....caught being tin kosong lah MrNobody...wakakakakaka

Posted by Fardar Chye > Jul 1, 2015 11:05 AM | Report Abuse

bro nobody, correct me if i am wrong ya.. index also need to take care 30baskets right?

Posted by Fardar Chye > 2015-07-01 11:10 | Report Abuse

means i am partially correct lo hehe... since that 30 stocks is the influencing the index, i guess understanding all the 30 stocks is essential too.. well unless like u said, gomen wan it up, it up lo.. gomen wan it down.. it down lo.. haha

Posted by MrNobody > Jul 1, 2015 11:08 AM | Report Abuse

fardar, no, in index, u only look at index as the 30 stocks movement cancel each other out to form a direction.