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A Christmas reflection on the perils of investing - kcchongnz

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 Posted by kcchongnz at Dec 25, 2013 08:49 AM 
12 comment(s). Last comment by KC Loh at Dec 25, 2013 01:35 PM

http://klse.i3investor.com/servlets/forum/900591594.jsp

 

 

Posted by kcchongnz > Dec 25, 2013 08:52 AM X

AMedia is a stock which is very dangerous for retail investors. It appears to have reasonably good earnings, and its PE ratio at 13.5 sen one year ago was a low single digit too. It even has good cash flows from operations. Its balance sheet is also nothing to fault about. But why is that Amedia required to exercise cash calls in right issues and private placements so often? A thorough screening through its financial statements show something is not right, a financial shenanigan? 

http://www.intellecpoint.com/search?q=asia+media  

AMedia’s share price has since fell from the adjusted price of 13.5 sen a year ago to 8 sen now, for a drop of 41%. It was even much higher than 13.5sen before that. There appeared to be a lot of share price manipulation, pumped and dumped, by insiders too. Plenty of blood is spilling everywhere for these two stocks. 

KNM 
Another of my “favourite” lemon which I was frequently asked is KNM. There are many loyalists for KNM, despite all the deceits, spinning from the major shareholder and management. I don’t know why but I guess it is hope again. KNM was the darling of the market. It had big plans; foraying and making its foot prints all over the world with big acquisitions. It reminds me of Enron. Each time I was asked about it, I gave bad comments. 

KNM has been losing money almost every year in his operations. Cash ran out and many cash calls were made. Even when it said it made money I have doubt about it because it often did not reflect in its cash flows and balance sheet. Some may say. “don’t worry, it has a lot of assets”, but its assets are of very low quality; PPE of which not sure what is the realizable value, doubtful receivables and work in progress, inventories, goodwill and intangibles. Its debts and liabilities are huge. It may end up the only value KNM has is just an option value, minimum of zero and something questionable. 

KNM’s share price dropped by just a couple of sen a year ago to 43.5 sen now. Actually it has nothing much to drop already. The blood has already spilled years ago. Yet many punters are still hoping that the insiders will fry the shares for them to make money. KNM’s share price did rise up to 60 sen middle of this year, but I am sure who are the people who made money, and who were the ones who lostt. A good place to read about the comedian story about KNM is as appended below: 

http://whereiszemoola.blogspot.co.nz/search?q=knm  

When people asked me if they should keep the stock, I like to cite this Sioux Indian proverb: 

• When you realize that you are riding a dead horse, the best strategy is to dismount. 

China Stationery Limited 
CSL is a typical stock which punters should avoid. There are many more of these kind of companies in Bursa. Its annual report shows they are making tons of money with plenty of cash flows and cash in bank. And yet the major shareholders dumped the share, millions of them. Yes, he is very noble and wants to share and enrich the public with the huge earnings the company made and its cash in banks. So he offers the stock at 75 sen to the public when it has 19 sen earnings, and 70 sen cash per share. I fact now you can buy CSL at 19.5 sen. What a bargain of the century! 

Guan Chong Berhad 
Guan Chong Berhad is recommended by a famous investor a few months ago (I have great respect for this famous investor, I really do, but everybody can make mistakes). It appears to be making profit year in year out. However, few people looked a little deeper; why is it the total debts have been increasing at such a fast pace, and that there is hardly any cash flows from operation, not to mention about free cash flows. Something is definitely not right. Why can’t GCB show us the cash? Are they speculating (not hedging) on Coco future? Finally the straw broke the camel’s back. Its last quarterly financial results finally showed a loss of 12m. Not much but is it the end of the story? I doubt so. I think there are still a lot of skeletons behind the closet. Its share price dropped by 22% from RM1.80 to RM1.40 since then. Interesting stories to read at the same link below about GCB. 

http://whereiszemoola.blogspot.co.nz/search?q=gcb  

Yeah, it is good to practice value investing; buy companies at a good price using PE ratio, dividend yield. We must understand what this “E” means for that particular company, where did the company get the money from paying that good dividend. 

To be continued

 

Posted by kcchongnz > Dec 25, 2013 08:54 AM

Ivory property was also recommended by the same famous investor. Earnings appears to be good relative to price. However since listing, I see no money from its operations, but more and more debts. Financial report is doggy with one-time revenue as gain and cash flow from ordinary business. Recently it even announced taking over the Plaza Rakyat for redevelopment. Don’t know if it has the financial and technical capability to do so. Its share price has risen from 49 sen at the beginning of the year to 77 sen in May, but dropped back to 58 sen now. For sure there were people making money from the rise, but I think more people, especially retail investors losing money on the share price was on the downward side. 

London Biscuits 
A similar story is about London Biscuits. Made very good earnings also relative to its price. But the plot is the same; no cash flow, increasing debts, management manipulations of PPE etc as shown in the following article here: 

http://klse.i3investor.com/blogs/kianweiaritcles/40683.jsp  

Sometimes a company in a good and durable food business may not be a good investment. 

Malaysian Pacific Corporation Berhad 
MP Corp is another company which investors live with hope; hope that the management sells their land, which they valued the same high value as the neighboring one which was transacted, and distribute the cash to them. The company is doing nothing at the moment except paying for the costs of holding some land and an investment property estimate to worth a lot of money, if sold. I was told off that I was not in their league of making multi-baggers from the market as them and was asked to stick to my Dutch Lady and BAT (Actually I didn’t have any of these stocks) to earn the 10% return a year when the share price of MP Corp spiked to 54 sen . This was what I said: 

• But remember, even though everyone is making money except you, it is ok. 

MP Corp share price has since retreated by 30% to 38 sen now. 


In actual fact,It is always not easy to predict if a company would do well in the future and that its share price would rise. It is much easy to see if a company is likely not to do well. So I like to remember what Charlie Munger says: 

• “You don’t have to pee on an electric fence to learn not to do it.” - Charlie Munger 


KC Chong on Christmas Day in Auckland 2013 


Table 1: Return of some stocks in Bursa 
No. Company Ref Price Price 24/12/13 Gain/loss 
1 Pmetal 2.520 2.320 -7.9% 
2 GCB 1.800 1.400 -22.2% 
3 Ivory 0.550 0.580 5.5% 
4 PW 0.720 0.880 22.2% 
5 Rsawit 0.850 0.785 -7.6% 
6 LonBisc 0.680 0.675 -0.7% 
7 KNM 0.455 0.435 -4.4% 
8 MPCorp 0.450 0.380 -15.6% 
9 MKLand 0.330 0.360 9.1% 
10 Careplus 0.315 0.310 -1.6% 
11 CSL 0.750 0.195 -74.0% 
12 AnComLB 0.185 0.185 0.0% 
13 Smartag 0.180 0.100 -44.4% 
14 Amedia 0.135 0.080 -40.7% 
15 NovaMSC 0.065 0.065 0.0% 
16 Hibiscus 1.900 1.840 -3.2% 

xx Average xxxx xxxx -11.6% 
xx FTSE Mid70 12294 14043 +14.2%

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ahtan

good sharing, hit hard. we need real cool constructive pointer like you. thanks again

2013-12-25 21:49

asamlaksa

Good one. Thanks for sharing.

2013-12-25 22:00

heavyth

Hikcchongnz...what about the following stocks :Instacom , TMS ,Salcon , TDM , PMCORP , Kfima. Thanks & Merry Christmas !!!

2013-12-25 22:19

kingcobra

Well a very big thank you for sharing the above news kcchongnz because I have lost lots of hard earned cash with those hanky panky companies esp csl ...knm...smartag....novamsc and many more......LOOKING FORWARD FOR MORE EXPOSURE THOSE GOOD FOR NOTHING COMPANIES PLEASE.....KCCHONGNZ

2013-12-25 22:27

Paul Ng

Thank you for the sharing. You have given me the best present for 2014. Thank you very much.

2013-12-25 22:52

houseofordos

KC, this is indeed a very good compilation of financial shenanigans in Bursa.. must keep for future reference... Bravo on the effort !

2013-12-26 00:04

houseofordos

This book "Financial Shenanigans: How to Detect Accounting Gimmicks & Fraud in Financial Reports" might be useful too.

2013-12-26 00:10

King Kong73

haha..smartag...i hate to say this...but i was right about.this stinker

2013-12-26 09:00

King Kong73

amedia..i was fooled by the financial reports but yes manage to get.out.as soon as they start.to.asj for more.money..when.they.are.according.to their books making good money..it was too.good.too.be true

2013-12-26 09:02

King Kong73

sold too.early on uoadev..spritzer..perisai petroleum..these are growth stock tht i should have hold on a bit longer...

2013-12-26 09:04

Jvei

hi Mr,houseofordos, any good financial book for dummies? especially in FA, reading those numbers, and financial term. thank you.

2013-12-26 11:55

$$ Hunter

Learn something important from your post. Thanks a lot.

2013-12-26 12:08

sephiroth

i think mkland should be remove from the 'lemon' list coz mk starts to give dividend 3 sen (since i bought at 30 sen aka 10% profit) + capital gain of 20%. the upcoming land sale (http://www.bursamalaysia.com/market/listed-companies/company-announcements/1268257) will free up more cash to reduce borrowings 9reduce from 250m plus to 139m currently, every quarter repayment of borrowings of 8 to 18m and still have 93.5m cash left) and maintain dividend. mk have positive cash flow from operations for 9 straight quarters and receivables reduce from 330m to 283m and there's more land sale coming up

2013-12-26 12:32

kcchongnz

SEPHIROTH,
MK Land does seem to improve in its operations. A lemon in the past may not be a lemon in the future. For one, if the price has fallen to way below its intrinsic value, or its intrinsic value risen way above its depressed price, it is not classified as a lemon any more.

Anyway, the list is term "some stocks in Bursa", nothing mentioned about "lemon".

2013-12-26 13:39

sephiroth

kcchongnz, thanks a lot for yr comment, i konw lemon not stated, but looking at the list of 16, noted 14-15 is whole fruit lemon

2013-12-26 14:31

irene su

Thks for this enlightening article!

2013-12-26 16:31

yungshen1

tq kcchongnz comment.but many big investor loses money such as lembaga tabung haji, cridit sussie , goverment singapore and etc

2013-12-30 19:35

kcchongnz

What are the returns of some stocks in the year 2013?

I have summarized the return the stocks mentioned in this thread up to today as in the appendix below. The “Reference price” was the price at the time when I was asked about that particular stock. What are the characteristics of the return of the stocks?

It can briefly be summarized as below:
1. The average return of the portfolio is minus 8.7% versus the return of the benchmark FTSE Midcap70 of 14.5%. This means the portfolio underperformed the bench mark and alpha is negative at minus 23.2%, a huge underperformance.

2. I would expect a couple of high return stocks because basically these are all the “hot” stocks chased by many people. However, I found there is none. Although there are 4 out of 16 of them have double digit return, what surprised me again is that they are all in the low teens and none of these hot stocks even managed to beat the bench mark of 14.5%.

3. Instead there are 5 of them in double digit losses, all more than 20%. One of them, CSL, had a negative return of 71%, and AsiaMedia at minus 41%. Smartag would have suffered the same faith if not for the stiff rise for the last few days.

4. The above is the total opposite of a value investor’s portfolio which there are many big winners and little or none losers. Even there is one or two losers, the negative alpha is very small.

5. May be one should rethink of their investing strategy by following a proper process of value investing or trading rather than chasing the hot stocks of the day and following rumours.

Appendix
Return of some stocks
No. Company Ref Price Price 9/1/14 Gain/loss
1 Pmetal 2.520 2.370 -6.0%
2 GCB 1.800 1.410 -21.7%
3 Ivory 0.550 0.630 14.5%
4 PW 0.720 0.810 12.5%
5 Rsawit 0.850 0.785 -7.6%
6 LonBisc 0.680 0.695 2.2%
7 KNM 0.455 0.475 4.4%
8 MPCorp 0.550 0.430 -21.8%
9 MKLand 0.330 0.370 12.1%
10 Careplus 0.315 0.305 -3.2%
11 CSL 0.750 0.215 -71.3%
12 AnComLB 0.185 0.205 10.8%
13 Smartag 0.180 0.135 -25.0%
14 Amedia 0.135 0.080 -40.7%
15 NovaMSC 0.065 0.065 0.0%
16 Hibiscus 1.900 1.920 1.1%

xx Average xxxx xxxx -8.7%
xx FTSE Mid70 12294 14082 14.5%

2014-01-09 18:51

kampa

Post removed.Why?

2014-04-17 09:42

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