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Why You Must Not Quit Your Job to Become a Full-Time Investor - Vishal Khandelwal

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April 18, 2016 | Vishal Khandelwal 

 

Short view – It could get lonely and frustrating, plus dangerous for your sanity and financial well-being.

Long view – First, a clarification. I am not a full-time investor i.e., me and my family are not dependent for our living on the stock market. I earn my living by teaching people how to invest sensibly in stocks. And I invest a large portion of my savings in stocks. But I won’t have sleepless nights if the stock market were to tank tomorrow and remain down for the next year or two, because that is not what earns me my oats and sprouts (I don’t eat “bread and butter” you see).

Anyways, the reason I am writing this post is because a lot of tribe members have asked me over the years – and especially recently through my Ask Vishal initiative – about how they could quit their jobs to become full-time investors in the stock market.

In most of my replies, I have asked people to avoid quitting their jobs to become full-time investors, and here are five reasons I have often mentioned to support my reasoning. In case you have had this question but were afraid to ask, I hope what follows below helps you take a decision.

Please do not consider my arguments as discouragement if you really want to become a full-time investor. I am just sharing what I have learned and experienced over the years, and you are welcome to ask more questions and share your thoughts or counter-arguments in the Comments section of this post.

5 Reasons You Must Not Quit Your Job to Become a Full-Time Investor

1. You don’t have to get rich through investing – With the last five years of reasonably good performance from the overall market, and with a lot of people flouting their multi-baggers on social media, it isn’t surprising that many people who want to quit their jobs to become full-time investors because they think they have a “knack for finding potential multi-baggers,” or to use a term in fashion these days, a “knack for identifying emerging moats.”

But such thoughts are often masked by survivorship bias, which is a logical error of concentrating only on people or things that “survived” some process and inadvertently overlooking those that did not. So, taking inspiration from other full-time investors who have made good money from “emerging moats” or “100-to-1 stocks” or “value trading” and ignoring others who followed similar processes but ended up with disasters can lead you to false conclusions about your own potential as a full-time investor.

What is more, like them, you don’t need to consider investing as a way to make you rich…but a way to keep you rich i.e., help you grow your purchasing power. Look at your work – job / profession / business – to make you rich and thus focus more energy and focus there than on the stock market. That is another reason most of us should consider owning only high-quality businesses where we don’t have to spend a lot of time answering a lot of questions.

2. Investing isn’t your passion – Yes, I know that the stock market gets you excited and that you think you have a passion for stocks. But if you could look deep within, you may realize that what gets you excited isn’t the idea of “investing in stocks,” but the idea of “investing in stocks that will rise and make you rich quick.” Or why else do you wait for Monday with great excitement if not for the kick that logging into your online portfolio tracker gives you? Yes, yes, I have been through that and thus could relate to it very well (now I don’t maintain an online portfolio tracker).

For a lot of people in the stock market, “I have a passion for equities” is often a result – and not a cause – of “I have made good money from stocks in the last 5 years.” Most of us fail to distinguish between luck and skill in stock investing – both for ourselves and for people who boast about their great picks on social media. And passion for equities often dies with a sliding stock market.

So please beware – know clearly what you are passionate about, and it may not have to be the stock market.

3. You haven’t experienced a deep/long bear market – When I say “experienced” it’s when you had 80%+ of your savings invested in stocks that went down 50%+. As I can assess from the emails people send me asking whether they should quit their jobs to become full-time investors, most of them have been investing/speculating in stocks for less than 5-7 years. This means, they have not experienced a long/deep bear market in equities with a large part of their money invested…which means their guts haven’t been tested for staying sane in a rough market.

If this is true for you too, please don’t get down to full-time investing before you gain this experience. In fact, if you seriously want to get down to becoming a full-time investor, first learn how to do it sensibly, test your skills (by investing part of your savings in stocks) and guts for owning stocks for a minimum of five years and check how you fared in this period. Only then make your decision.

4. You may not have a solid support system – It’s easier for you to convince your family as you start full-time investing without another regular source of income. You have the savings to survive for a couple of years (that’s very important), your spouse believes in your ability to do well, and your kids would love to see you spend some more time with them.

But then, this is easier compared to what? Well, it’s easier compared to keeping yourself and your family convinced for more than 1-2 years in case your investments do not earn well enough to help you maintain your living standards. Or if you do not have an adequate amount of capital invested that brings you sufficient income as dividends.

If that happens to be the case, your support system may be at a risk of breaking down, which may ultimately lead you to take bad, hasty investment decisions. It’s could become a vicious cycle then.

So, even if you aim to become a full-time investor, ensure that you have a regular source of income – maybe through a small business or a part-time job or if your spouse is ready to take the lead earner role happily. That would give you time, confidence, and savings to work towards your aim to become a full-time investor.

5. You haven’t handled loneliness and boredom well in the past – Being on your own can become terribly lonely at times. Plus, if you are an investor and have no new stock idea to work on – maybe the markets become expensive across the board – it could get very boring too. If you have never experienced such emotions of loneliness and boredom in the past, be forewarned, for these can lead you take bad investment decisions just because you don’t have a habit of inaction, or sitting still, when everyone around you is acting. The pressure to “do something” is often so great, that people do the wrong thing when they’d have been better doing nothing.

Of course, you can find investing partners or groups to curb your loneliness, the silence you experience from time to time of being a full-time solo investor can be deafening.

Still Wish to Quit Your Job?
Despite my discouragement, if you still wish to quit your job to become full-time investor, or pursue some other passion, here is a checklist that may help you. These are some lessons from my experience in quitting my job, so they may guide you in some way in case you are sailing in the same boat as I was five years back –

  • You don’t need to quit your job if you can work on your passion for investing or something else alongside. In fact, quitting your job must be the last resort, or when you find the burden unbearable and abusive.
  • Quitting a job and living a fulfilling life isn’t as easy as those who have done it would make out to be. Things get scary at times.
  • Quitting you job will affect others in your life, so it’s critical that you have an honest conversation with your family first and get their buy into the decision.
  • Learn an important and sellable skill before you quit your job to start on your own. You must have an alternate source of income to sustain your family, just in case the stock market doesn’t appreciate your decision and doesn’t reward you for the risk you took
  • Quitting a job to live as an investor can be a path to hell. Don’t expect investing to make you rich, but to keep you rich. It’s the earning from your work, and what you do with it, that will make you rich.
  • Practice minimalism and lean living at least a year or two before you plan to quit your job. Instant compromises are heart breaking!
  • Save money to use as initial capital for your business, and then keep your expenses low. Don’t borrow money for your business till the time you aren’t generating cash. As an investor, you hate cash guzzling businesses, right?
  • Don’t believe people who tell you – “How I quit my job, doubled my pay and cut my hours in half”…or something like this. They will not help you if you reach a point of no return.

All clear?

You have my best wishes if you still want to quit your job to become a full-time investor…or if you want to quit your job to pursue something else.

I will be happy to help, in case you wish to come over and meet me to discuss your questions and plans.

My fee – a cup of green tea. 

 

http://www.safalniveshak.com/becoming-full-time-investor/

 

Discussions
6 people like this. Showing 19 of 19 comments

Jonathan Keung

it's a lonely at the top. sigh! to become a super & successful full time player

2016-04-18 15:53

Alex Chan

Trade not invest.Only 10% are successful. Those who cannot, teach.....

2016-04-18 16:43

Jolin Lai Chi Pet

for those quit the job, will get alzheimer soon..................so, u all must work everyday!!!!!

2016-04-19 08:22

yeo219

Fully agreed the author. Unless you manage fund that big enough to derive sufficient dividend to sustain your living expenses monthly, it is risky to go full time investor. You can only consider profit make from investing stock as bonus for your holidays and dividend as interest earned from the investment. Investor goes full time with small fund will inevitably make wrong decision sometime and also not able to hold good potiential stocks for sufficient period to get the maximum returns.

2016-04-19 13:44

vcheekeong

Well said..tempting to become full time investors is great but you can't be picking winning stocks all time.
Stay employed is good for beating loneliness and stay active while can nimble in stocks market.

2016-04-19 20:08

Tom

totally not agree with author. if you don't quit ur job then how to become full time investor?
title should be "Why You Must Not Quit Your Job to Become a part-time investor"

2016-04-20 11:06

Lulu La

I think the title correction shud be.."Why You Must Not Qui Your Job To Become A Full Time TRADER"...investor n trader is different lo

2016-04-20 11:10

Tom

1x2 = 2x1
"investor" = trader
same thing :)

Posted by Lulu La > Apr 20, 2016 11:10 AM | Report Abuse

I think the title correction shud be.."Why You Must Not Qui Your Job To Become A Full Time TRADER"...investor n trader is different lo

2016-04-20 11:27

Lulu La

Totally not agree with investor = trader.....

2016-04-20 11:28

noobnnew

Investor is not trader. Trader constantly looking at price perform buy in sell out in short period of time. Investor constantly looking at annual report, quarter report, perform financial analysis, looking for bargain hunt. Investor won't sell for 2-3sen different. We do our homework, play big and win big.

2016-04-20 11:41

3EMWE

until there is a sustainable source of income or fresh cash flow outside of investing one might consider being a full time investor. there has to be a plan A for plan B to work.

2016-04-20 11:41

stockmanmy

don't listen to others....not even Vishal Khandelwal

2016-04-20 15:02

Angielim9955

I have been suffer by last year when bearing . So I already feel the fear and lonely . And also feel only super clever person can become full time. I think less than 10% in the world can be a very clever people . Haha . Even god of bursa also don't hundred percent know tomorrow index will up or going down . So I agreed this title .

2016-04-20 21:25

stockmanmy

angie


for directors, substantial shareholders and long term investors, they don't have to be right all the time. They don't even have to be right most of the time. For them, they only have to be right once a decade, they can do very well for themselves.

2016-04-20 21:33

Angielim9955

Agreed

2016-04-20 21:44

stockmanmy

What it needs is that for a long term investor, his main focus is strategic issues and quality of management.......got that right the share will do very well at least once a decade.

2016-04-20 21:48

Tom

told u....
1x2 = 2x1
"investor" = trader
same thing :)

Posted by noobnnew > Apr 20, 2016 11:41 AM | Report Abuse

Investor is not trader. Trader constantly looking at price perform buy in sell out in short period of time. Investor constantly looking at annual report, quarter report, perform financial analysis, looking for bargain hunt. Investor won't sell for 2-3sen different. We do our homework, play big and win big.

2016-04-21 09:43

unclejoe

Like what Walter Schloss said, Quote: “ In life, we should be confident in ourselves, do something that we like and are passionate with; not doing something that we don’t like just because it makes us money.”

2016-04-21 16:51

stockmanmy

3 kinds of participants

- the directors, substantial shareholders and long term investors
-the portfolio manager
-the traders

the stockmarket is big enough for all three
but no one is big enough to be all 3.

Know thyself first.

2016-04-21 16:54

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