Philip ( buy what you understand)

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2020-07-14 15:26 | Report Abuse

I didn't elevate myself at all, but you seem to think that people cannot change their mind when circumstances change. Tagb has been pumped and dumped with explanation and notes. So can you explain if INSAS is still a good stock to invest in despite management doing so many shady actions? If company is so cash rich as you claim, can you give some solid and good reasons as to why they would do cash call and offer deals like preference shares and free warrants?

Why? Stop trying to talk bad about other investors good results ( I have doubled my returns from topglove, and made 30% percent after that on yinson, Pchem, and others).

Please just stick the the thread and it's salient points.

WHAT IS INSAS DOING? WHY IS THE SHARE PRICE TANKING AND CASH CALL BEING RAISED?

You spend so much time talking bad about my other investments like QL GKENT Serbadk kpower, scib etc etc, despite them showing good earnings results and stare price increase after I began my investment. You have been talking bad about QL since 2018, despite seeing the share price climb up and up and earnings and revenue going up and up.

You have so many theories and explanations and shareholders complaints. In the end you keep choosing bad investments and keep talking bad about my investments.

WHY? Why can't you just stop commenting on stocks and businesses that you know nothing about and such to businesses in your circle of competence?

As for stockraider? Did you invest in glove stocks? No? What did you invest in? NETX? Sucks to be you. Sapura? Insas warrants? Wow? What were you doing when everyone was in glove stocks?

I already doubled my earnings. What about you? How are you doing in your NETX?

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2020-07-14 10:47 | Report Abuse

Then maybe you can write a formal complaint to Warren buffet why he sell airline stocks so fast after he bought them or sell o&g stocks right after he buy a large chunk?

In investment is about making the right decision and the right call.

Not walk a talk into losing money. You have too much ego and no wish to learn anything new.

In the back account is yours not others. Decision is always yours to make.

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Sslee Haha Philip,
In life it is not how much you earned or profited but talk the talk and walk the walk.
14/07/2020 9:46 AM

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2020-07-14 09:30 | Report Abuse

You sold tagb for how much profit? Still want to show off? I sold it and bought some kpower and some scib. So far good results I received my 20% returns much faster than waiting 1 year for tagb to do share buyout.

But you want me to sell QL to buy INSAS? Sorry, not in a thousand years.

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Sslee Good morning Philip,
I sold my TAGB bought at 20.5 cents for profit, no like someone wrote big article on pump and dump TAGB but sold to breakeven or cut loss.

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2020-07-13 21:53 | Report Abuse

I'm sorry sslee, you thought investing is so easy, and simply buying stocks in undervalued cash rich companies is enough to make money. But like Leno says...

You are a minority of the minority. You cannot influence the board or buy a seat at the table. All you can do is follow the actions of the majority shareholder.

Now you know why ql is now worth 9.90, and INSAS is barely moving

Quality of management. No matter what they say now you know the truth. Why should a company that is cash rich and has so much assets need to raise cash in such a desultory way?

The simple answer is Financialisation.

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2020-07-13 09:20 | Report Abuse

Yes, now you know why I don't invest in INSAS despite the so called "undervalue".

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2020-07-13 08:56 | Report Abuse

It means a company with a lot of money still Need to borrow money and minority shareholder still need to shares while owners get to control INSAS company with 33% ownership without risking anything.

So many red flags.

SSLee can you tell me a bed time story?

Why does a company with so much money still need to borrow money from shareholders? I really want to know from your understanding why a honest and undervalued company like INSAS is doing such a thing?


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whitebunny Guys, newbie here. What does the rights RPS with free detachable warrants mean?
12/07/2020 7:06 PM

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2020-07-12 00:02 | Report Abuse

Only banks may use customer deposits to do loans. Stockbroking company is not allowed to.

Therefore, since you cannot use what does not belong to you, you have to raise cash in more creative ways.

And if the public is not interested giving out a loan to INSAS or buy the shares, more creative methods need to be raised.

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Hence not a problem for INSAS to use deposits to repay the bridging loan of RM 132 million. In fact I suggest to Board to replace Rights Issue with Bonus issue of up to XXXXXXX free warrants to existing INSAS shareholders. So hold tight to your INSAS share and do not sell cheaply

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2020-07-10 11:08 | Report Abuse

What is shit and what is cake. Sadly, now sslee realize the truth of his investment in INSAS. Who really benefits from this investment?

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2020-07-10 07:26 | Report Abuse

What is my opinion on this?

Covid-19.
If you look at my portfolio, all my shareholdings still made a profit during MCO period as they are designed to be more resilient during times of economic uncertainty.

For GKENT, in construction they have started back work in April 2020, and I believe it will pick up in the coming years.

Simple answer: if you can see lrt3 project moving in KL, then there will be earning due to GKENT. If the project completes on time, gkent will get far more than rm360 million in earnings in the next 4 years.

I think their track record with LRT ampang, and their other projects deserve a little bit of faith.

Now the question becomes, if gkent receives 360 million in net earnings over 4 years( exclude the water meter production, the hospital construction and their factory assets in Puchong which is undervalued), how much discount will you take before owning this company?

Here let me simplify it further. At 64 cents today, if you can get 6 cents of dividends every year for the next ten years starting from 2021, how much will you be willing to pay to hold GKENT?

However if you believe that gkent will never ever be able to get new projects again... None of this matters.


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RainT @Philip

As I read again the recent QR the PAT of RM3726k is included the forex gain

if excluded the forex gain, then actually GKENT is making loss of RM1078k

What you think about this?

So GKENT QR is not as good as it portrayed, as it is loss making operationally.
27/06/2020 12:43 PM

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2020-07-09 10:30 | Report Abuse

Haha sslee you finally broke even on your INSAS investments? Very good, now you also can start to get cocky and tell them the results of your 4 year investment in INSAS and how wonderful it was and what your CAGR has been from investing in INSAS...

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2020-07-08 21:36 | Report Abuse

I still made more than 30-40% on my other stocks which are still undervalued, including kpower, scib recently, pchem from rm5+ to rm6+,yinson and many more. You are like those who love to swim naked at the beach, not wearing anything and holding on tight tight.

Of course I sleep well at night. My ql from rm8 jump to rm9.7, what is there not to like?

You are like those who are laughing and say opportunity cost etc etc, while the real fact is... You have no idea what the real value of your equities are and if they will stand the test of time.

Let's see if you are smart enough to predict the low z that you can predict the high and sell off your trade at the right time eh kid?

I await with bated breath on your extraordinary ability to buy low and sell high.

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Posted by CharlesT > Jul 8, 2020 8:42 AM | Report Abuse

hold 10 years to make rm10m+ sold few months earlier to see opportunity loss rm25m+...how do u feel just wonder....

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2020-07-08 07:46 | Report Abuse

Are you still supporting mnrb or already cut loss?

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2020-07-07 11:48 | Report Abuse

I am trading in STAR, and investor with my other long holdings.

The point here is when you use TA or technical analysis (price action theory) to define your investment philosopy, uptrend and downtrend. In the long run, short term technical analysis trading gives you a lot of false signals. The shorter the time frame the more false signals you get.

the best way to "trade" if there is any good way, is to identify market perceptions based on news and results and to buy/short based on that market perception.

Investing is about ignoring share prices and market perceptions and trying to understand the earnings and growth prospects of the business.

Two very different modes of thinking.

Can you tell the difference?

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2020-07-07 07:13 | Report Abuse

Yes I heard that MNRB was also supported by a lot of idiots.

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2020-07-05 16:07 | Report Abuse

Hmm actually no.

Traders like ackman, Soros and dalio also won huge battle. Trading does not necessarily man daytrading. However those who do short term daytrading on average have 70% chance of losing money.

The most important implication is however mindset. Those that make real money trading do it based on either long term datasets, or long term perception changes in investor mentality. In a way it is similar to how investors look at long term business prospects, but instead looking at market perception of reality.

That is why I have never agreed with "technical" analysis mumbo jumbo to use simplified metrics like price action and moving averages to define trading rules.

Using this concept would have ruined you when tg probe dropped to 14 after qr good results, and take you offguard when price go up from 14 to 18.

This is because looking at the share price to base your perception instead of trying to understand market perception of reality would give a lot of false signals.


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Posted by EngineeringProfit > Jul 5, 2020 2:05 PM | Report Abuse

In short, traders just aim to win a small battle in the shortest possible period while trying to minimize loss of 'soldiers'

On the other hand, investors are committed to a longer term engagement in order achieve a remarkable victory.

Both employ a totally different tactics, strategies and mindset.

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2020-07-05 15:49 | Report Abuse

If this strategy work for you how come you still driving myvi and can't pay for your kids college?


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Take for example of Sohai Philip selling pre maturely all his topgloves recently & lost the opportunity of making another 100% gain loh..!!

If only sohai Philip know...how to use trading strategy....he would have sold off 20% & hoping to buy back at 10% lower loh...!!

But if the price keep shooting up another 30%...he would have sold another 20% hopping to buy back 10% lower mah...!!

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2020-07-05 12:27 | Report Abuse

I will try to expand more, as trading can be a very very complex method.

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2020-07-05 10:36 | Report Abuse

Yaa.... should listen to stockraider

He promised 2019 after Chinese New Year:
1. Insas will be RM1.
2. Sapura will be Rm3 after 3 years and 3 months.
3. Henyuan will be worth RM25.
4. Insas warrants will fly to the moon

Don't know which is the real sohai here:


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Posted by stockraider > Jul 4, 2020 12:52 PM | Report Abuse

Forget about sohai Philip, he will never agree to your investment method mah.....!!

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2020-07-03 18:54 | Report Abuse

Well it depends if you want to be a short term trader or long term investor?

Since you seem to want to earn money every quarter from your investment, you don't seem suited for analyzing long term investing.

Why don't you join CharlesT in investing in glove stocks instead?

Instead of congratulating or asking funny questions. Perhaps you can ask yourself:

How much was the returns of your oil palm plantation in year one versus year ten? Is it a straight line how much you put in, the percentage is your profit?

If you still seek to argue and belabor this point, then I will stop replying here as you do not understand construction industry at all.

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2020-07-03 17:46 | Report Abuse

That's not how construction works.

This is like you doing clearing of 1000 hectares in Indonesia for Palm oil plantation and commenting that the first year your profit margin is zero and the plantation is losing money. If this is your frame of mind it is very difficult to invest in mega projects.

Relax and look at the total picture.

You are basing on 2 billion progress claim to say that the company is not doing well?

If using that mental model, a new plantation with investor money and zero income from Palm oil that venture into Indonesia, spend millions to clear land, build refinery and plant Palm oil, the first 20% progress losing money the whole project is bad?

HAR?

Come on. What are you trying to prove here?

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Posted by Sslee > Jul 3, 2020 4:06 PM | Report Abuse

Haha,
Philip LRT3 profit margin of 10% now 2020 only show 0.1%.

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2020-07-03 15:20 | Report Abuse

Posted by CharlesT > Jul 3, 2020 3:07 PM | Report Abuse

now i very scare next year will lose like shit n then missing fm i3
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Why you scare next year you will lose like shit and then missing from i3?

So fast trying to escape from bak kut teh lunch? oh no tut tut tut. Lucky glove speculation continue, you were missing from i3 for a while already. now back to your cocky style, so funny.

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2020-07-03 15:11 | Report Abuse

The simple answer is: Why? It is to the benefit and approved during last year AGM to issue 10% SBB in the open market.

FYI, how can we trust "shareholders" to act on behalf of the company and buy more gkent shares from open market instead of running away the moment they receive dividends? If the answer is you dont know, it is to the benefit of the company to do agreed upon SBB on behalf of the company.

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Q11: Why only two dividends totaling RM 13.44million for the year under review? Will the BOD propose paying dividend for financial end 31 Jan 2021? May I suggest, stop the Shares Buy-Back and use the cash to pay dividend so that shareholders can use the dividend received to buy more Gkent shares from open market?

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2020-07-03 15:07 | Report Abuse

Q5 is simple answer. NO, as this is not pertinent to minority shareholder. This information is for board of directors that direct the company on your behalf as a shareholder. If you wish to micromanage everything, then it is to your benefit to take a BOD position in the company by virtue of ownership.

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2020-07-03 14:32 | Report Abuse

Q4 is something called Pakatan harapan renegotiation.

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2020-07-03 14:31 | Report Abuse

Q1- Q3 very good questions.

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2020-07-03 14:29 | Report Abuse

These are very insulting and challenging questions that is designed to incite argumentation. May I suggest a rephrase?

Q6. May I respectfully ask what is management current tenderbook and orderbook replenishment?
Q7. Directors remuneration is RM7 million for 2019, and total profit after tax to group is 41 million. Share purchase agreement of 10% from open market. May we propose remuneration conversion to share purchase agreement or reduction of remuneration to preserve cash?

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Q6. For year many IBs recommended a screaming sell on Gkent due to rapidly thinning of construction order book due to no new contracts won. How is management going to rectify this rapidly thinning construction order book?

Q12. I prefer insider (Directors) to load up Gkent shares from open market rather than Share buy-back. If not mistaken the last time insider purchase is on 18th May 2018 by Dato’ Paduka (Dr.) Ir Hj Keizrul Bin Abdullah. May I know why insider not buying Gkent? May I suggest, Directors use the Directors’ fees and dividend received to buy more Gkent shares from open market?

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2020-07-03 14:16 | Report Abuse

Q1. It already more than 3.5 years since contracts awarded in Oct and Dec 2016. When will be the completion date for these two hospitals?
LoA was a 48 month contract as per tender requirements, please read the open tender documentation.

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2020-07-03 08:47 | Report Abuse

All I can say is stubbornness and confidence can be a difficult combination.
But sslee does raise a few good questions which cannot be answered easily and can only be monitored over a period of time on that happens.

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Rwkl Personal attacks , hurling of insults only on i3
However once on telegram, everyone is civil and exchanging constructive ideas
This UM grads.... what are they smoking.......

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2020-07-03 08:42 | Report Abuse

FYI,
Just to clear up something as you seem to be insinuating that I am faking my portfolio. Please understand and clear up that if total shareholding is BELOW 5% of total voting shares, there is no requirement or necessity to report to the register of shareholdings. Meaning I can hide behind my Maybank,rhb and public bank nominee cds account.

As for promoting, I am simply writing an article on how to apply margin in buying stocks with GKENT as an example of what I have been doing.



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Then tell me did you promote Gkent since you first bought Gkent?
25-Feb-2019: Buy: GKENT +1,000,000: 1.12
And by the way since you hold millions of Gkent mind pinpoint to me your name in the top 30 shareholders in Gkent financial report?
01/07/2020 9:15 AM

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2020-07-03 08:38 | Report Abuse

Isn't this your first words to me when I posted up my article online? When I shared my journey you were so much quicker to judge and comment on my investment of QL, even until today about 2 years on. Funny how 1 year later you are still so quick to comment and promote INSAS 2inari buy 1 INSAS, despite lackluster results.

I'm sure in real life sslee is a fine person. But being a keyboard warrior he loves to just type and comment without checking the veracity of his investment concepts.

So far his concept of cigar butt value investing has been proven deeply... Wrong.

But instead of looking at what went wrong with his investments, he goes over by insulting mine.

Funny how that works.

INSAS 0.65
Ql 9.64
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“I'm still waiting here for your amazing imaginary results.”

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2020-07-02 06:17 | Report Abuse

Thanks James, do join the telegram page to have chit chat over investment ideas... A lot of constructive criticism instead of just personal attacks.

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2020-07-01 20:04 | Report Abuse

Hi kong73, I am very impressed with your single mindedness in tracking your portfolio from 2012 until today. Kudos on your hard work and clarity. I hope to maintain a clear investment portfolio online as yours one day.

You seem to have shifted from a trading outlook into a dividend outlook throughout the years. It seems to have done you well compared to the constant buying and selling. I also started with the same outlook on reducing my trading activities in 2009 after losing money for many years before.

I noticed that in total you have invested 106.9k in cash to your portfolio over the years, with a stock portfolio worth 115k today.

Please keep up the good work in tracking your portfolio returns and I hope you do well in your investment over time.

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2020-07-01 19:26 | Report Abuse

If I knew the future I would be a gazillionaire. But my investing philosophy is to see what they are doing currently and where the growth triggers are. So far I don't see anything that LHI is doing for them to be as good as QL.

If I was LHI, first I would add more agricultural base. Instead of marine, I would look towards the growing the cow and milk production in Malaysia which is majority imported. This would give me confidence that LHI is diversifying within it's area of competence ( agriculture). Then I want to see them venturing to end user business with frozen food and own brand manufacturing ( family Mart, 7-11, Cold storage). These would be the growth cycle within it's area of competence that I want to see happening that would put it on its way to being a QL or CP or Tyson.

It's like in palm oil plantations. First you want to see them start with their own nursery selling to plantations. Then when they start growing their own plantations you feel more confidence. Then when they start building their own refineries you feel more confidence on their economies of scale. Then when you see them starting to produce their own downstream products and finally exporting own brand products then you know they are growing the right way.

I look at potential growth in terms of capabilities, not just size.

You could be the biggest chicken and egg producer but still not grow.

But if you can add complexity and vertical integration you will realize the growth is exponential.

The simple answer is I don't know about LHI, but they are currently not adding capabilities, only size.

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2020-07-01 16:24 | Report Abuse

That is why I put my full portfolio so you know the position size of gkent in relation to my entire portfolio. You already know what size is gkent to my other investments.

If you read halfway then you only have yourself to blame.

At the same time you only read INSAS and QL story halfway and make assumptions on the long term prospects of both companies. Since you use simple metrics like balance sheet and accounting figures to define your investment philosophy instead of making more effort to understand your investments like buying the products, reading the industry journals, market reports, business journals, competition performance, and just use simple metrics to define your investment knowledge.

You have only yourself to blame for your poor long term performance since 2016. Sadly, even worse instead of asking the right questions you keep repeating the same investment philosophy and keep repeating the same mistake year after year

2016 - xinquan
2017 - hengyuan
2018 - insas
2019 - jaks
2020 - tunepro

Year after year after year you keep repeating the same mistake even though it doesn't work for you.

So what has happened?

You missed investing in QL, missed investing in topglove, sold gkent at 50+ cents, sold Pchem at 5+, you have made trading away good stocks and holding on to bad stocks your habit.

Then you go around asking me to show you my details and my shareholding position and prove to you this and that and whatever, as if I have anything to prove to you.

Simple, let us let our INVESTMENTS do the talking. Why do you keep talking about GKENT and QL everywhere and Keep reposting things everywhere?

Please do share one investment so far which is giving you joyful meaning returns so far and how much of your portfolio size is in it?

I doubt you can. Maybe it is time to move on with life and improve your investing acumen.

Hopefully old dogs can learn new tricks.

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2020-07-01 16:11 | Report Abuse

Yes definitely. Why not?

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2020-07-01 14:43 | Report Abuse

See? Promotion again. But can you explain why INSAS price is 0.63?

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2020-07-01 13:34 | Report Abuse

Sorry I value my privacy. Like you said in your very first comment to me that I live in a imaginary world and your investment is so much better. I don't see why I should share further than what is already shared on my online portfolio.

You like to ask for so much info, but you yourself do not maintain a trackable portfolio of your own investments.

Maybe we can discuss further next time that you do that.

You have been promoting INSAS with your buy 1 share of insas get 2 share of inari etc from day 1.

I'm still waiting here for your amazing imaginary results.

FYI unless you haven't figured it out yet, my i3 name and real life is different.

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2020-07-01 08:04 | Report Abuse

Maybe zen and sslee should just put their life savings into companies like liihen, which is trading at a pe of 5.6. I'm sure the dividend and their capital will have been very well placed the last 3 years investing in liihen...

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2020-07-01 08:01 | Report Abuse

You do know that their business is not just family mart right? Did you hear about the huge new expansion into Vietnam and Indonesia where they spent capex to double production? It should be completed by the end of the year and earnings to be reflected in 2021...

FYI for this who don't know, the pe has been too high since 2016.

QL is now a 15 billion company with long term performance that can see huge runway moving forward so they are spending every cent in growing the business. The business is stable enough that they can afford to pay huge growing dividends every year as well.

I find it funny how everyone keeps commenting on the pe, even though the revenues have been growing like crazy in a very tightly competitive environment. It's like finding a tiny 5 foot guy who can jump like Michael Jordan and beating all the other giants.

But everyone keeps looking at his stature to define his capability, instead of looking at the market dominance, and the capability of QL.

The only rebuttal I have is this: how has your own low PE stocks performed over the past few years?

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2020-07-01 07:35 | Report Abuse

Keeping here for my own record. Interesting investment concept. If a crisis happens, all bets are off and price to earnings ratio becomes fungible daily concept. If a cruise ship arrives for the weekend, we should buy everything that deals with the tourists.

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Posted by OTB > Jun 30, 2020 10:23 PM | Report Abuse

Ans :
All readers in this forum will believe you 100% if the PAT of Supermx is 388 million or 428 million in Q4 2020 results.

If PAT is 388 million,
FY 2021, PAT should be at least RM 1.552 billion.
EPS = 1552/1360 = 1.14
PER = 15, the target price = 17.10
PER = 20, the target price = 22.80
Any of aforesaid PER, we are laughing all the way to the bank.

If Covid-19 lasts for 3 years, please read the below link.

https://klse.i3investor.com/blogs/kianweiaritcles/2020-06-29-story-h15...

Most brokers in town use PER = 26, the target price = 29.64.

I feel shy to calculate if PAT is 428 million.

Thank you.

Posted by Philip ( buy what you understand) > Jun 30, 2020 10:16 PM | Report Abuse

OTB, you really think Supermax can be a 50 billion company valuation and be bigger than PCHEM and public Bank? How many years of covid-19 are you expecting for it to get 1.5 billion in earnings every year?
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I do not need to think. I do not bother Supermx is bigger or smaller than Pchem or PBbank.
I have my strategy ready "how to deal with this Miss Universe stock".
All data is ready in my head, I need to know what is PAT for Q4 2020 only.
Presently, I am already sitting on the gold mine. Left hand is gold bar and right hand is also gold bar. The difference is only the weight.
Thank you.

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2020-06-30 22:16 | Report Abuse

OTB, you really think Supermax can be a 50 billion company valuation and be bigger than PCHEM and public Bank? How many years of covid-19 are you expecting for it to get 1.5 billion in earnings every year?

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Most brokers in town use PER = 26, the target price = 29.64.

I feel shy to calculate if PAT is 428 million.
Thank you.
30/06/2020 10:11 PM

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2020-06-30 22:05 | Report Abuse

This is not how you do comparative growth analysis. It would be difficult if not impossible to look at long term growth prospects by just mixing in parts like this to look at the quality of business.

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2020-06-30 22:00 | Report Abuse

You have been trying to bring down QL stocks since January 2019 with your condescending comments on my sharing of this investment and my experience on this stock and every chance you get you try to promote INSAS while trying to bring down QL.

Now it would be useful if in 2 years you are right and INSAS really rewards it's shareholders and QL overpriced and overvalued stock tanks.

However even after 1.5 years of your comments, the truth remains: your history in investing in INSAS is dead wrong, and my long term returns in QL has given me wonderful earnings.

Now, you can say whatever you want and comment all you like.

The fact remains:

You are wrong and know nothing about INSAS nor QL future prospects.

So why do you still seek to try to comment so much on QL as if you know anything about it? You are no different from those investment bankers promoting their TP and analysis with nothing to lose by being wrong.

I think you are better off just avoiding investments and talking about it and sticking to something which will not hurt you financially, like talking about politics and religion.

You seem more cut out for it anyway. In fact, you are far too stubborn and inflexible to learn from your own investing mistakes, as you seem to love repeating it over and over. I think you are better off putting your money in an index fund for sp500 or China A500 where you don't have to think about businesses so much. To invest in the market is to understand the business and the long term prospects of the business. You seem to be happy to just look at the very tip of the iceberg to define your investment criteria. Not only is this dangerous to your own financial health, you promote INSAS during investment talks and share your thought on blogs with new investors in the market, influencing them to also follow you in making bad business decisions.

There is a fine line between ego and confidence. Confidence is when someone is right, ego is when he is wrong but he still thinks he is right. How many more years need to pass by as investors make millions from investments like topglove, yinson, QL etc when the eventual consolidation comes and you can say AHA! I told you I was right, QL drop therefore it is BAD!

So I will just keep quiet and let you continue using your methodology to buy stocks, hope that you make money successfully. Hopefully you will avoid buying things that I am buying and letting me grow my position over time.

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2020-06-30 20:37 | Report Abuse

No I don't think so. I think those QL shareholders have all been turned into millionaires and billionaires due to the excellent growth of the company.

It's already been 2 years. I hope you can stop just talking like you know what value investing is, and show some results from your value investing into your own wonderful stocks.

Until you do, all your comments about QL sound like sour grapes from someone who isn't even a shareholder.

If you can show better results in the past 2 years with any of your own investments I would love to hear them and your thinking in investing in them.

Until then, you only sound like a bitter amateur who is unable to show good results of his own so goes around commenting about other stocks which he has no experience or understanding with.

I expected better from a UM graduate.

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2020-06-30 18:40 | Report Abuse

Sure thing sslee. Whatever makes you happy. Been chasing high for 2 years now right? Overvalued pe50 from 6.7 until now 9.8...

I think you should stop buying based on investment banker and kyy recommendations.

I don't think your investment strategy based on "cigar butt value" investing is bringing you much joy.

From 2016 until today 2020.... How has your investment results been?

Take my word for it: QL is an excellent business. You just don't know how to value it. I won't even bother to explain why, as you have a confirmation bias already built into your kind that INSAS is a wonderful investment and QL is a horrible investment, despite all the evidence to the contrary.

Then may I ask a simple question?

Can you explain why from 2017- 2020 the share price of QL had been on such a swift rise?

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2020-06-30 12:50 | Report Abuse

No, people chase high because QL is a very very STABLE stock with low volatility in earnings, consistent growth of revenue and earnings over time, and huge capability to grow earnings without going hat in hand to shareholders and asking for share placements, warrants, private placements etc. It is not prone to technology disruption, the competitive imbalance just grows over time over competitors like CCK, layhong, teoseng and LHI. Most individuals do not display a capacity of investing in wonderful companies because they are full of fear and believe things to be "overvalued". Guess what, many people have also missed the growth and earnings of Berkshire hathaway over time.

Why is Topglove up so 400% over 1 year? Why is QL up 37% from jan 2019? Why is Yinson up 50% from Jan 2019? Those are questions which you must ask yourself carefully over this period as stocks in insas, tunepro, bjland, jaks etc all tank...

Covid and crisis resistant stocks will never sell at a discount.

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So people chase High because of Bonus share issuance?

Insas report loss quarter because of unrealized AUD exchange losses and fair value changes of financial assets at fair value through profit or loss (quoted securities)

But QL report profitable quarter with some hidden accounting reporting in small print Foreign currency translation differences for foreign operations: RM (64,447,000)

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2020-06-30 05:30 | Report Abuse

Personally i happen to agree with Morgan Freeman. The day we stop thinking of myself as a Chinese man or a Malay man or Indian man and start thinking of myself as Malaysian is the day Malaysia moves forward.

We can celebrate ethnicity without pushing racism as a means of controlling population and gaining favors.

Even today we teach our kids about racism, about how some children with 7A can get full scholarship to study medicine while others with 15As can't get scholarship for medicine because of the color of their skin. Or how some individuals get huge benefits like asb and 5% housing discount over others and how some land can only be bought by bumi. Funnily enough, the very fact that this racism happen has caused the land value of bumi lot to drop as it is not accessable to everyone.

Let's stop talking about it, let's stop teaching our children about racism. Let's just concentrate on looking at people as Mr yusoff and Mr Chin instead of this white guy and that Chinese guy. Once we stop segregating individuals and choosing our friends based on skin color we will have a better future.

I guarantee it.

So let us forget about Malays and colonialism and Malaysian Chinese and making that divide larger. Let us teach our kids to respect Malays as Malaysians and I believe they will do the same. This deep seated racism is being fanned out in public to no good end.

Sslee, please stick to stock investment. This is a stock investment website. Stop fanning racism and political comments here and STICK TO STOCK INVESTING. Probably your investing will get better then.

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2020-06-29 20:51 | Report Abuse

I don't know which is sadder, that stockraider will continue to invest in horrible business like INSAS, NETX, that are losing money for him? Or he will continue to miss out on wonderful ten bagger businesses like QL and topglove...

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2020-06-29 20:47 | Report Abuse

So losses in income? Oh no. I'm still enjoying my 4.5 send of dividends with huge increase in share price, and multiple splits thought the years. Profitability of business and excellent growth opportunities. Everyday say overvalued, but who is the one buying netx at 2 cent and 3 cent drop to 1 cent, and bought INSAS at 80 cent drop to 63 cent with reported losses. I'm sorry stockraider, you are still going to owe me bkt by the end of the year. Unfortunately knowing your character, you are going to continue bullshit and weasel your way out, so I don't want to waste my time entertaining you.