Reasons why China-lined companies listed in Bursa are being looked at with lack of transparency, integrity, good management as compared to others, especially white men's companies, investors' confidence and attributes of becoming a blue chip.
Objective comments are welcome and we can pass the comments on to the Hengyuan management.

Please wait for the official announcement. If the guy really knows the result now and do trading with the prior knowledge, he and his source of information could be charged for insider trading and price manipulation.

What do you mean by kakijudi? Gambler? As a matter of fact, everything you do in life is a gamble, taking a wife is a gamble, quitting your job for a new one is a gamble, even putting you money in the bank is a gamble. Human beings must have the innate capability to go into the unknown, or taking a calculated risk.

Ricky, then you please answer the question someone in this forum asked you about how much you think HY should worth. You have not answered yet.

The probability of HY price going below 15 is almost zero, going above is a certainty, it is just a matter of time. Just only two to three days from now, we will see who are crying and regretting and who are laughing all the way to the bank. Let the naysayers say whatever they want, they are making a fool of themselves by saying the price will drop to 2 with no basis( one even asked Ahmoi at Pudu market to sell at 3 ). Pathetic fools not using their God-given faculty upstairs!

Unsubstantiated news is fake news. Spreading fake news to create panic can be a crime. Refrain yourself before is too late.

Buy mother share only

Ricky, no matter what method is used for valuation, back it up with factual figures or reasonable assumptions. Then, no one is going to disagree with you unless your figures are plucked from the air or your assumption too preposterous. They are some who wrote that the price should not be more than 2RM and asked people to sell now before it crashes. Any right thinking person will know that this is total rubbish! Humbug!. The best way to deal with such people is to totally ignore them.

This China mama is very dubious. Beware

Just wait for the official announcement. Why poking your bloody noses into others' businesses? No one is asking you to do so, rather you better go off from this forum with your tail tucked behind your arse

But the dogs are barking up the wrong tree

I am seeing a lot of blind people trying to show how smart they are and leading the other blind people but instead misleading the general public

Planned shutdown is mandatory for factories to comply with environmental, health and safety standards. No worries here.
At the same time, they are taking the opportunity to upgrade the system, it is good for the long run.

Orange88, you got lost in your way home? Why are you here?

Another smart ass trying to outsmart the other

Posted by Hengyuan is just cyclical stock > Feb 21, 2018 11:52 AM | Report Abuse

pattern looks like yesterday. no more upside, should plunge after lunch time to 14

If this smart ass is so good in predicting the market, I just wonder why he is wasting his time here.

KYY doesn't make the market, he can come and go. He made his money, he went. This is a case of " I come, I see, I go"
It is Hengyuan strong fundamentals that matter most.

Of course Q4 result is important. But the road ahead, 2-3years down the road is going to be good for Hengyuan.

Your only regret can only be you didn't buy more

Any right thinking people will agree with stockraider.
Hengyuan is value for money. A star in the making. Buy and you will never regret.

We are in the CNY mood, it is best to keep quite if you have nothing good to say here. Anything bad or misleading information with ulterior motives you say during this festive period is going back to you in one way or another. Happy CNY to all.

No matter which criteria you use, Hengyuan is by far the best stock in term of value and visibility of sustained earning in the near term of 2018.
Buy! Buy! Buy!

Bloombeg announced last night that China stocks listed in Hong Kong were rising strongly, will it happen in Malaysia?

Posted by invest_101 > Jan 26, 2018 09:06 AM | Report Abuse

Guys, the warrant issuers are not ‘short’ nor have the intention to ‘short’ the ordinary. IB’s merely intermediate opportunities and make a ‘cut’ from these derivatives, instead of making directional bets. The issuers would definitely have a position in the ordinary to hedge their positions, contrary to what you think. Cheers.

Let us hear directly from the respective IBs. They must come out to clear the air themselves, using other people is not going to convince us.

We may have to resort to make a police report to initiate an investigation.

The downtrend and consolidation is over. Thanks God we held our fort. From here on, your guess next is as good as mine. Tomorrow is going to be better.

Weida2000
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Posted by Weida2000 > Jan 24, 2018 10:34 AM | Report Abuse

Sell b4 RM14!!!!!

From your posting, you are not smart at all. You got the number all wrong. The price is >14 and you are telling selling before 14. Dungu

Hengyuan!

Posted by Weida2000 > Jan 24, 2018 10:28 AM | Report Abuse

Sell!!!!

If you are running, see whether if there are anyone following you. If not, you better turn back.

1.Any business will need bank loan at one time or another
2.Banks that give loan will have done their due diligence before approval
3.Hengyuan inventory for feedstock for two months will easily come to 8 million barrels
4. At current price of 70USD/barrel, the stock has a value of 560 millions USD or about 2.2 billions RM
5. Loans taken earlier or inherited from Shell are in USD at higher rate than now
6. Buying USD with stronger RM rate vis a vis USD, you will have more USD.
7. BOD of Hengyuan must have done their homework to take this RM loan.
8. Besides, with the price of oil trending up in the world market, HY will report inventory gain every quarter.
Simply put, don't worry, it is to HY advantage.
I stand for correction please. I may be wrong

If those IBs were not to square their short position before the week runs out, they will be caught with their pants down in the coming week.

The China Mama is telling her followers not to sell this week, is this an indication or signal that something big, real big, is going to unfold next week. Believe it or not, up to you.

Either local reporters from English media don't know Chinese or the mainland Chinese don't know English. There is communication problem due to language.

The IBs that shorted are now on damage control mode.
If they try again to press down the price, we will bury them.

Buy and keep. It is better to keep the money in the FD in the disreputable banks with IBs trying to cheat.

IBs that shorted this counter are finding it more difficult to press down the price as they will be overwhelmed by the strong support of retailers and real investors for HY.
They(IBs)are now bidding their time to minimise their loss but time is running out for them as the pending Q4 announcement is expected to be better than Q3. Their parent banks are now baying for the blood of those crooks.

They will keep trying and we shall beat them when we are united.
Bear in mind that HY is a fundamentally sound and good counter. The crooks will not achieve their evil intention.

I am glad to see that we the retailers hold our ground today. The short sellers fail in their attempt to create panic to drive the price down. Bravo! Keep it up.

If the talk of bank linked IBs were doing all the dirty tricks of pressing down the fundamentally strong company like Hengyuan is true, it reflects very bad on the part of the banks involved. Should we also boycott these banks?

The major difference is one can use cheaper feedstock to refine into the same products. Thus the profit margin is higher

HG is more versatile when compared with Petron in refining. It can use heavy crude which is cheaper, Petron cannot.
I stand for correction please.

May I suggest that Bursa should come out with rule to forbid brokers( using false names) from IBs to spread false and unsubstantiated news on forum like this.
There is a conflict of interest and unethical on the part of IBs with such brokers.

Nekosan, thanks for your response.
BTW, are you one of those dishonest brokers from the disreputable IBs?
In Chinese, there is a saying - TRUTH WILL ALWAYS PREVAIL.

Fellow HG investors, buy only according to your capability, don't play short term or margin on this counter to avoid being outplayed by the unscrupulous brokers from some disreputable IBs. It is in our favour from now onwards that we should be united and teach them a lesson.
China is power house in the world economy. Just look at the advancements they made in all fields of endeavour. In some aspects of the oil and gas, they are in the forefront of technological breakthrough. Don't doubt their capability of running this refinery better than its predecessor.

We must be mindful of the dishonest brokers from IBs. They have the upper hand unless we ,the real investors, are united in pressing the authority to act against their infringement

Check this guy, JadeSchira, is she/he a broker in one of the IBs. If yes, she/he is unprofessional and against the code of ethics to pass such comment without any basis or proof.

IBs that borrowed from clients to short sell to force the price down when they are incurring losses in their warrants are now scrambling to cover their asses. The damage has been done and they should not be greedy and continue doing it as they are likely to be caught and charged.

Thanks Booyah. IB that issued warrants should first be investigated for such underhand practices.

Bursa Malaysia or whoever in charge of regulating the daily transaction of Hengyuan should investigate the brokerage firms affiliated with banks issued with investment banking licences.
One way they can play trick is by force selling, which they are entitled to for clients not having enough fund to take up what they bought.
Another way, I think it did happen, is to borrow shares in clients' account and short sell. Going by the huge volume this week, I think this is happening. I may be wrong. But I have the hunch.

Show is on. Booth is closing. Buy now

秦梦瑶
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Posted by 秦梦瑶 > Jan 17, 2018 01:52 PM | Report Abuse

大家好, 来一起上床啦
Show time restricted only to ticket holders. Otherwise, buy your ticket quickly.

If Great Eastern Malaysia is going to use Kuchai as a vehicle for listing in Bursa, then Kuchai shareholders will benefit greatly from this exercise. I think betting on this is a sure win, if you dare to take a risk in joining the game. The cross holding of many Malaysian companies controlled by Lee family, directly or indirectly, is mind boggling. Besides Great Eastern, OCBC Malaysia also needs to be listed sooner or later. UNITED MALACCA was once rumoured to be the vehicle for OCBC listing.