a foolish man always thinks he is most cleaver in the world

do not think others are foolish if we have not learnt enough .

pussycat,

why you always see things from the negative angle
why not try to look at it from the positive side

what KYY said is nothing wrong , nothing new,
actually many listed companies that you have invested already quietly done .
if KYY is not 80+ years , do you think, he will that foolish to share with you such accounting manuever ?

Calvin doesn't know chinese
I try my best to translate in the language he can understand

山重水復疑無路，( walked cross mountains and rivers, thought there is no more road)

柳暗花明又一村。(there is light and brightness, oh... a NEW WORLD in front...)

笑问好股何处有， ( I ask with a smiling face where can I find good share)

牧童遥指在徍登 ( the BULL points to GADANG )

山重水復疑無路，
柳暗花明又一村。
笑问好股何处有，
牧童遥指在徍登

when you feel no more anger ,
you enemy look less disgusting
feel very hopeful , a lot of friends here
everybody so nice.....
it is the time your fortune is coming

for those who want o sell gadang , tomorrow is a good day to sell
but do not sell less than 2.90
best still don't sell , let the profit runs


ah-boon, you must learn .

monkeyinvestor,

放心啦。。。

山重水復疑無路，

柳暗花明又一村。

I suddenly feel I want to buy more Gadang

kok onn can play with the account but he did not ,
he is an honest man
he is very confident with his company performance
the coming days are good for gadang
it is safe to put our money with him

Gowingo,

after reading kyy article , i suddenly feel very hopeful, a feeling that we are making a right decision did not panic sell gadang . I am very confident the price will recover soon
I suddenly feel very bad condemn calvin so much. I think you also shouldn't scold him a kiasu, lansi Singaporean now. in fact we must be thankful to him being with us and talking with to us during these few difficult days when gadang price had dropped so much causes many panic sellings.

Calvin,

not all shares recommended by KYY and OTB are bad,
you do not know who am I
but I know Gadang better than you
I understand your target is not Gadang
your target is OTB and KYY
this time you have really chosen a wrong battle ground
please wake up
back to your true-self of a good Christian while still not too late

Posted by calvintaneng > Oct 31, 2016 11:23 AM | Report Abuse

Xuewen,

Please understand this

Calvin's heart is overflowing with care and concern. Actually I hate to be so outspoken.

my answer: which true good man will feel he is good enough



Calvin : Why then Calvin is speaking out against all conman stocks, all overvalued stocks being promoted by syndicates & other pump and dump stocks

My reply : a man with evil intention will tell you others are more evil



Calvin: Last time Calvin got 3 good friends
Last time I don't know anything about stocks so I can't help them.
NOW I AM HERE TO SAVE SOME.
I HOPE I CAN SAVE SOME POOR SORCHAI (SIMPLETON) WHO WILL LISTEN.
THAT IS MY MISSION AND CALLING.
I hope at least one or two can understand.

My reply : but you are doing more harms to them than good and you are not aware
read the agreement of the capital city JV I have attached for you easy reference , but you refuse to read , you choose to believe in what you see in the photo than the truth behind, kill the gold goose that will lay golden eggs, if you know share investing a few years earlier when lim goh tong want to build Genting in the jungle ,i believe you will call it a white elephant also.

Calvin,

please wake , you are a good son of Jesus Christ, chase away the satan that has occupied your heart.

God Bless You.

I can tell you in advance, some day after Sept 19, Calvin will be posting a photo showing he is joining me in the BERSIH 5 rally.

he is Singaporean, why he does that ?

GILA_BABI mah....

like he is doing to Gadang now

Calvin,

do you dare to swear in front of your God , you will not buy a single share of Gadang for the rest of your life since it look so hopeless to you

I think you dare, you are a Christian but you heart is occupied by Satan . if not then you must be GILA_BABI

Calvin said:

Gadang's profit from construction is quite thin unlike PTaras. It is only 7%


Xuewen reply:

how many construction companies with abundant of project with profit margin more than 10%
that show you did not do your home work.
sheer rubbish to mislead people here

Ptaras and gadang are cash rich companies, there are more selective with projects

compare Ptaras with Econpile then you see clearly how a same business can be run in different styles. one focus on business , another one is focusing on pleasing shareholder with plenty of project win but low margin .

if you do you homework then there is nothing to fear, if you pay money to buy tips or analysis report but no knowledge of valuation , then any reversal of trend , you will panic and sell, paper gain become paper loss

Calvin is not interested in Gadang
He does not hope to buy gadang cheap

do you believe a smart Singaporean and a good Christian can put in so much effort and time to create fear here if it is none of his business

We Malaysian are not as smart as Singaporean, but we believe in God , we fear God. of course there are some who don't, I am talking the majority of the Malaysian. So we dare not distort the truth. there are thing we feel fearful or shameful to do

Singaoprean also believe in God, but a majority of them do not fear of God. practically nothing in this world they can not or dare not do .of there are many good Singaporean also, but minority .

Posted by xuewen > Oct 31, 2016 10:36 AM | Report Abuse X

Singaporean are very smart, smarter than you can imagine. otherwise how can a nation without natural resources can survive and prosper .

His intention is to create more panic sell , so that he can buy more , one year later he will start telling you his successful story about when others are fearful , he is calm and greedy

only our Malaysian are foolish, lazy to do homework, pay subscription to buy tips, when the trend reversed, panic sell. Singaporean adds oil, add salt... quietly collect more and more

Calvin said :

These are the Shocking Photos of Capital City 21.

Located in an industrial area without population catchment. A middle Class Malay area with average purchasing power. A sure White Elephant in the making.

my answer:

I still remember when LIM GOH TONG built his GENTING in the middle of the jungle people called him GILA_BABI

now this white elephant has become the favorite of most Singaporean

Calvin said :

These are the Shocking Photos of Capital City 21.

Located in an industrial area without population catchment. A middle Class Malay area with average purchasing power. A sure White Elephant in the making.

I still remember when LIM GOH TONG built his GENTING in the middle of the jungle people called him GILA_BABI

now this white elephant has become the favorite of most Singaporean

Singaporean are very smart, smarter than you can imagine. otherwise how a nation without natural resources can survive and prosper .

His intention is to create more panic sell , so that he can buy more , one year later he will start telling you his successful story about when others are fearful , he his calm and greedy

only our Malaysian are foolish, lazy to do homework, pay subscription to buy tips, when the trend reversed, panic sell. Singaporean adds oil, add salt... quietly collect more and more

now this white elephant has become the favorite of most Singaporean

I still remember when LIM GOH TONG built his GENTING in the middle of the jungle people called him GILA_BABI

True story

I do not believe there is Satan in this world, Now I believe.

indeed there is Human with a Satan heart

before this I do not be there is Satan in this world . now I believe , indeed, there is human with a Satan heart.



Posted by calvintaneng > Oct 29, 2016 11:25 PM | Report Abuse

Posted by pisanggoreng > Oct 29, 2016 11:09 PM | Report Abuse

a chinese saying,

one type of rice , all sort of people

ah boon not interested in gadang because it is a share promoted by his enemy KYY and he is jealous of OTB . so do not hope to hear anything fair and unbiased from him regarding all the stocks recommended by KYY or OTB

Calvin refuses to believe Gadang can perform well because of capital city .

he is convinced that houses are difficult to sell now a days , not only capital city but the whole property market in Malaysia and Singapore. He had seen this with his own eyes.

But he is a good christian with a careless heart.because he did not do his homework well before providing his golden advises not to invest in Gadang .

why i said he is careless?

1. He did not read the agreement of the JV of Gadang and Hatten for the development of Capital city.
you may view the agreement through the following link:

http://www.bursamalaysia.com/market/listed-companies/company-announcements/4381697

if he had read the agreement carefully with an unbiased heart (hati terbuka), then he would have convinced that whether capital city a "white elephant" or "not a white elephant" , Gadang is guaranteed of the profit sharing of some RM334,000,000.00 or a steady income of about RM55M - 60M per year, every year for a period of 5 five and half year starting from 2015 untill 2021

Gadang did not have to pay a single sen for the development , just a piece of land bought a price of RM 30,500,000.00. all the development cost is borne by Hatten

2. Calvin did not check the financial status of Hatten international pte limited company. if he had done that,then he would have convinced this capital city project for Hatten is just a "sap-sap-sui" case.

Conclusion :

Capital city is a Goose that lay the Golden eggs for Gadang ,

how can you let go easily a Golden Goose with a small gain.

God will never give you a second chance if you do not treasure the first one.




Calvin replies:

Pissanggoreng or pissang sudah kena goreng?

Calvin good Christian with careless heart?

Calvin has studied both Hatten from Singapore & Gadang's position.

I think Hatten has tried to wear a Hat Too Big For Its Own Good.

Now of course Gadang is providing the 16.2 acres land worth Rm21 millions for the Capital City JV project.

Share of Rm334 millions windfall of JV with Hatten? I think you prepare to forget it. There is a blindness of colossal proportion if people are buying into the Capital City story.

Mow that Capital City is being built in stages Gadang's own 16.2 acres land are liable for quit rent & assessment. It will be more and more from MPJB later. Just like they slapped a Huge Tax on UEMS!

So in stead of a profit from Capital City Gadang better be prepared to pay more land taxes. That will be a wake up call later.

before this I do not be there is Satan in this world . now I believe , indeed, there is human with a Satan heart.



Posted by calvintaneng > Oct 29, 2016 11:25 PM | Report Abuse

Posted by pisanggoreng > Oct 29, 2016 11:09 PM | Report Abuse

a chinese saying,

one type of rice , all sort of people

ah boon not interested in gadang because it is a share promoted by his enemy KYY and he is jealous of OTB . so do not hope to hear anything fair and unbiased from him regarding all the stocks recommended by KYY or OTB

Calvin refuses to believe Gadang can perform well because of capital city .

he is convinced that houses are difficult to sell now a days , not only capital city but the whole property market in Malaysia and Singapore. He had seen this with his own eyes.

But he is a good christian with a careless heart.because he did not do his homework well before providing his golden advises not to invest in Gadang .

why i said he is careless?

1. He did not read the agreement of the JV of Gadang and Hatten for the development of Capital city.
you may view the agreement through the following link:

http://www.bursamalaysia.com/market/listed-companies/company-announcements/4381697

if he had read the agreement carefully with an unbiased heart (hati terbuka), then he would have convinced that whether capital city a "white elephant" or "not a white elephant" , Gadang is guaranteed of the profit sharing of some RM334,000,000.00 or a steady income of about RM55M - 60M per year, every year for a period of 5 five and half year starting from 2015 untill 2021

Gadang did not have to pay a single sen for the development , just a piece of land bought a price of RM 30,500,000.00. all the development cost is borne by Hatten

2. Calvin did not check the financial status of Hatten international pte limited company. if he had done that,then he would have convinced this capital city project for Hatten is just a "sap-sap-sui" case.

Conclusion :

Capital city is a Goose that lay the Golden eggs for Gadang ,

how can you let go easily a Golden Goose with a small gain.

God will never give you a second chance if you do not treasure the first one.




Calvin replies:

Pissanggoreng or pissang sudah kena goreng?

Calvin good Christian with careless heart?

Calvin has studied both Hatten from Singapore & Gadang's position.

I think Hatten has tried to wear a Hat Too Big For Its Own Good.

Now of course Gadang is providing the 16.2 acres land worth Rm21 millions for the Capital City JV project.

Share of Rm334 millions windfall of JV with Hatten? I think you prepare to forget it. There is a blindness of colossal proportion if people are buying into the Capital City story.

Mow that Capital City is being built in stages Gadang's own 16.2 acres land are liable for quit rent & assessment. It will be more and more from MPJB later. Just like they slapped a Huge Tax on UEMS!

So in stead of a profit from Capital City Gadang better be prepared to pay more land taxes. That will be a wake up call later.

pussycat,

I am just play play with you lah....
who is right , who is wrong gadang is still 2.92
today sunday mah....
no market, can not trade

hahahaha......

pussycat,

do not get angry,
i know you are very pandai lah...

at least you have agree with my view a little bit only

well done. keep it up

joke aside......


pussycat,

so you are telling me you are very pandailah.... can stand on your own feet already .




Posted by pussycats > Oct 30, 2016 05:01 PM | Report Abuse


I am telling u in the statement abov, I don't need to ask KYY or OTB to tell me when they want to sell or worst, I don't ask them to let me sell 1st like what you say. Xuewen, u are funny la. kikiki kikiki

idiot pussycat,

you are the first idiot
why you so stupid, you know very well I will call you idiot, yet you are that good and willingly appear to be called .
please kindly provide me your real name and IC number, I will get the national registration department to endorse the title for you .

hahaha.....

at the current price of 2.92, Gadang is still undervalued with good sustainable income growth to a higher level for the years to come . I will buy more below RM3.00 because all the loose holders already cleared.
if you have sold on friday, do you dare to buy back at a higher price since you already smell the money, that is how KYY get rich because he is alway dare to buy back a good company at a higher price.
no sifu in i3 will teach you this theory , but if you are a businessman, like me, you will do it without any sifu telling you
moreover with the 7 sen dividend near its ex-date , no serious investor will forego this 7 sen dividend just because of a 20% quarter drop
look at the attachment below, do you still fear or worry OTB or KYY will throw their shares to you ?
I am waiting for some idiots comments , i want to see if not i can't believe there are indeed idiots aroud?
let's see who is the first idiot to emerge here.....



Posted by Ooi Teik Bee > Oct 21, 2016 10:49 AM | Report Abuse

Is it true that Mr Koon recommends Gadang is for him to get out ?
It is big lie.
Due to this big lie, many readers did not buy Gadang at 2.60. Mr Koon tried to help readers here to make money, someone twisted the fact to spoilt this recommendation. Many had missed out this stock.

Readers here, please open your eyes and you should know who is the big liar in I3.
FYI, I bought 4 million shares for Mr Koon at 2.60. Is Mr Koon buying or selling ?

Thank you.
Ooi

so you carry on , more the merrier...

hahaha....

my logical thinking tell me , your stupidity has in fact indirectly helping me to persuade KYY and OTB to be more determine to prove you wrong

pussycat,

you already sounded very funny in front of me , do not force me to tell you frankly that you are not funny but STUPID

pussycat,

you are not only funny but also very greedy and demanding .

which of your law of life fix the rule that OTB and KYY must let you sell first before he can sell .

I know OTB has a pool of subscribers, that is very powerful, not you or I can overcome. worst still he is given the mandate by KYY to sell and buy on his behalf , he gets a profit sharing of 10% beside the consultation fee. He is TA first , FA second, with a big drop yesterday, do you think the TA still can be bullish, so I have a reason to fear, that why I tactfully reminded him as a successful businessman beside monetary gain there is virtue called credibility that have to be well taken care of. because any lesser money you gain can be made up next time, if one lose his credibility , one loses it forever. I do not think KYY wants this outcome.
But a wise man can be blinded by his greed, so , I play safe , hoping he remain in the team with most of us to make money and be rich together.
If he concurs with me, do you see how beautiful is the outcome ?


do you understand ? or still want to talk funny , do nothing new , at the end do not gain anything but a funny market maker .


Posted by pussycats > Oct 30, 2016 03:37 PM | Report Abuse
my answer→ KYY & OTB help u by telling U whic stocks they oredi bought. They help U half of the way only. They don'thelp u all the way to riches, bcos they don't tell u when to sell.



I don't say U are wrong. Just want to let u think do KYY & OTB help u until they tell u when to sell so that all of us here can be rich? They only, ONLY tell u when theyALREADY BOUGHT Gadang, not telling U when to SELL. They help u half of the way only.

class dismiss.
that's all for today
bye-bye

did I ask you not to sell high ?
did I ask you not to buy low ?
what sort of market maker you are talking about ?
everyday market maker, market maker...
learnt a new term, want to show off here
scare die nobody know that you know what is market maker
very funny you ?

pussycat,

what is so funny?
you do not even understand what I am talking about .

what fact of life you are talking about that we do not know ?



Posted by pussycats > Oct 30, 2016 03:10 PM | Report Abuse

Really funny in this forum.
Sellers want to sell higher, but buyers want to buy lower.
This is the fact of life.
Nobody wants to do the opposite of the actions above.
So sellers Vs buyers here. Now the price outcome depends on whic side the market maker support(buyer or seller). Yo guess is as good as mine. Think about this

so , do not scold KYY or OTB, they are here to help us to make some money. But you should not be too greedy , you must have a plan and a strict discipline to sell when you have made enough or the price has reached RM5.00 .

UNDERSTAND?

why warrent buffet can be that successful in his investment ?
if he is as "pokai" as you and me , do you think that successful as what he is today ?

investabc , klse8888

there is nothing irrational , good or bad, under-valued or over-valued , if there is no Banker or super investor like KYY , cold-eye, some influential fund managers interested in a particular stock , the price of that stock will remain die-die (static) for a long long time until you grandchildren have grown up. may it be a great company like public bank , QL, top-glove, scientx......

OTB, you can't blame me, you are TA first, FA second . so I have the reason to doubt you may ask your subscribers to reduce holding , please bear with me , walk along with us in the road to successful investing in Gadang .
others who do not believe in my get rich plan, please sell, I don't stop you , nobody will stops you . those half believe my get rich plan and waiting for lower entry price , please carry on waiting , if you are lucky you will get the good price. you deserved it

Based on my most conservative calculation , Gadang worth more than 5.00 next year , after splitting and bonus
if you don't kacau my get rich dream , I am rich man next year.
you can be rich also if you dare to join me
KYY already rich , he does not need to be richer , he is happy because he has proven his ah-boon and many of his critics wrong, that is what he want most.
Gadang is my route to be Rich-man in the poor Malaysian ecomimy
GADANG,I CAN CAN BE RICH,YOU CAN BE RICH,
EVERYBODY CAN BE RICH.

Many can not rich because they do not dare to fail
you dare , I dare , so we become rich

HUAT !!!!!! HUAT.... HUAT AH.......

there is no ugly data for gadang
there is only sustainable grwoth to higher level



Posted by enning22 > Oct 30, 2016 11:21 AM | Report Abuse

for investment , you need to look at ugly data and hard facts of our economy,not wild imagination.The hard facts are , things are not so rosy as some blind imagination seemed to lead many of u into. Caution is the real word, the sole MESSAGE

so you see, I talk 3 talk 4 not because gadang is not a good company,
not because capital city is not a golden goose , now added another golden goose from kwasa land plus high likelihood of securing new construction works of lrt3, mrt2 .... and stronger sustainable income growth from utility and plantation and affordable housing. i know I can be rich if i invest in gadang with all my saving , if OTB throws away his chart or TA , I believe most of us will sure would be rich , sooner than we have calculated or imagined. my dear Mr OTB can you please kindly spare us with no obstruction to our getting rich dream, work with us and huat together , just for Gadang only. that is also what your VVIP KYY wants.

why I said so ? because OTB can share 10% of the gain , it is a big sum , he may do something to safeguard this profit.
but I think this is quite ulikely to happen because KYY will not allow him to do so because KYY MORE INTERESTED to prove ah-boon and many others who bad-mouthed him WRONG

those who chased high are already clear their stocks
those who follow TA to buy already cleared
those who bought and hoping to make a fast bite are also cleared
those who bought earlier but play safe are already locked in profit( may be partially)
those who with a weak hearts can not see the price drop already sold
what is the most likely to happen for the day to come
if OTB does not initiate a reduce holding call to his subscribers ,or reduce for his super VIP clients then what remained or most likely to happen for the days to come is the price will go back to 3.00 and more because of the 7 sen dividend about to expire soon, no institutional investors or big kaki will be that unwise to to sell like no tomorrow like most of the retailers

I still want to reiterate my question.
Am I making you life too difficult if I dare to win big in gadang and you dan't ? it is my money ,win or lose has nothing to do with you, do you need to spend so much time misleading , frightening us with all your gila-babi imagination and wild guessing

Ryanc

gila babi means a person not a babi who is fond of making wild guessing unacceptable to a right thinking mind .

so if one learnt a theory and he believes this theory is a universal law , true for all cases, then it is gila-babi


Posted by RyanC > Oct 30, 2016 09:56 AM | Report Abuse

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bagholder

In U.S. financial slang, a bagholder is a shareholder left holding shares of worthless stocks.[1]

The shareholders could be caught up in a corporate bankruptcy and accounting scandal, as was the case with Enron and Worldcom, or ***the victims of a pump and dump scheme***, in which ***naive and unsophisticated investors fall victim to e-mail spam, rigged stock tip forums, or other tricks used by stock touts to drive up the shares of worthless penny stocks***.

The term has also been applied as a term of derision to real estate investors.[2]

The word is derived by combining shareholder with the expression "left holding the bag."


All those who follow the Sifu from Holland will be "left holding the bag".

Hahahahaha

gila babi sound crude many not be negative

gila babi means a person not a babi who is fond of making wild guessing unacceptable to a right thinking mind .

initially i also feel as most of the people here what ah-boon said makes sense. I am quite worry OTB will quietly wattsapp his subscribers to sell, that will cause a real impact to the price movement, I scrolled through his comments in gadang , then I discovered , he revealed and declared openly he help KYY to buy 4M shares of gadang @2.60 and his strategy to advise his subscribers to buy and keep for at least 3 to 6 months, so I am convinced he won't bring us to holland before the corporate exercise has completed. KYY will not allow him to do that because he is old and rich , winning money should not be his main aim, moreover this is the counter he had advised to add more with the intention to make money for a better living in these difficult period of our country.
so I ruled out this possibility and deleted my post last night expressing my fear arises from ah-boon warning