calvin,

we are followers of God
what we said here no different what we said in front of the man who was nailed on the cross



Posted by calvintaneng > Dec 20, 2018 12:19 PM | Report Abuse

Whoa

2 to 5 years woh

So many turned long term investors?

How many really hold that long?

with my intelligence and a true sifu guidance ,

I believe i can do even better

bye -bye

go ahead to remove my posts

you will see very soon all my comments will be removed

that is good for me

I am forced to do my homework not to rely on sifu advice to invest

some people just abuse the system to "report abuse"

now do you understand why xuewen or halite need so many id

calvin,

don't need 2 years or 2 days

very soon people will flag me until I am suspended again

if you agree power plant itself worth more than RM1.00 when completed and starts operating to generate cash

but you also agree you won't see much cash coming into the bank for the coming 2 years


you want to make a bet ,
is it better to pay 25cents to try you lucks for 2 years or 45cents to try your lucks

remember 2 years and not 5 years !!!!!

i mean pasr malam bargain do not always works well in share market



Posted by hollandking > Dec 20, 2018 12:04 PM | Report Abuse

pasar malam got bargain meh?

ya....

nearly forget my sifu teaching

talk less

sorry, sorry.....

people like me must talk less

because my gifted talent will invites a lot of jealousy

no more story from me anymore for today
bye-bye

dragon ,

you come back as ciku

I come with as xuewen

hahaha.....

jaks welcomes me home with GREEN........

bye-bye

trust me

when the koon comes back to join force with the bee

the world belong to them

hibiscus is my second heavy holding after ekovest for my 2019 portfolio

I usually do not talk in my wife house

because I know a good wife will never disappoint me

i am waiting at 1.45

I have come back

not to prove who is right or wrong

but

to remind you

" HOW CHEAP IS YOUR MOUTH THAT IS HOW CHEAP IS YOUR LIFE "

bye-bye

I have learnt from sifu DK66,
talk less but every word is gold

hahaha....

aseng sifu :

the one who talks less will win


DK66 sure win
because he talks less
but every word worth a gold

sure up one
because my warrants start trading tomorrow
hahaha....

zhuge_liang,

I also trust him 100%


Posted by Zhuge_Liang > Dec 19, 2018 10:06 AM | Report Abuse

I trust a gentleman who spend almost 12 hours a day to do his research including week end.
I also do my own research, hence I understand his hard work.
A gentleman who spend almost 12 hours a day to do his research including week end will eventually make a lot of money.
Wealth gain = hard work, no short cut.
You can blame and you do not understand his big effort.

you want proof ,
then you must pay for it
how about we assign a lawyer to do that
the loser just pay a simple donation of RM10k to world vision
dare or not ????
if not don't simply throw your challenge



Posted by OptimusCallShitBaba > Jul 17, 2017 09:36 AM | Report Abuse

Talk cock no 1, where's the proof?

aseng top up another 40k @1.03
17/07/2017 09:33

to win , you must know what you are doing
do it (buy/sell) without any hesitation if the price is right

clever, don't follow others panic sell



Posted by Ang Kian Teck > Jul 17, 2017 09:42 AM | Report Abuse

hold to the end

what is the most pitiful animal in shares trading ?

"NO MONEY TO BUY WHEN THE PRICE IS CHEAP"

read the comment , you know who are the animals

not even top 30 volume
a good sign
seller start to put on the brake
it is the best time to buy cheap NOW !!!!!!

when it is a good buy
you want lower
when it is lower
you want o keep cash
at the end
you gain nothing but a lot of empty waiting

what are you waiting for ?
buy when the price is cheap
not waiting lower and lower
and you get nothing

rich man always richer because he dare to bet on good risk

top up another 40k @1.03

i like ekovest

my good friend probability,

don't take it so seriously, i just play-play with you .



Posted by probability > Jun 5, 2017 11:17 AM | Report Abuse

im talking about everything aseng...no right or wrong...
you can do anything you wish to...
i only provide information

what are you talking about?
no right or wrong guessing how other people think ?

you like to mislead people with your general statement




Posted by probability > Jun 5, 2017 11:01 AM | Report Abuse

i believe there is no such thing as right or wrong...it has all to do with one's perception....what appears right for some may appear bad for the others...

yin makes yang and yang makes yin

you are more rational, I like
both petronm and hengyuan are undervalue , one is good buy, the other is good bet
if you have also said had included in your comment that
hengyuan has a relatively higher trading risk than petronm , then i will accept your comment 100% fair and unbiased





Posted by stockraider > Jun 5, 2017 10:39 AM | Report Abuse

Raider also like Petron....in fact raider has some exposure loh...but if u compare Petron v HRC...obvious HRC is very much undervalue loh..!
Thus raider put more monies on HRC mah....!!

The point that aseng raise on Petron is true loh....thats why mkt rate Petron with much higher Pe than HRC mah....!!

But no need to rundown Hrc or Petron....as both also undervalue loh...if Petron share price,it is good for Hrc too and vice versa loh...!!

you like to guess, including how I think

do you think such behaviour is always right ?




Posted by probability > Jun 5, 2017 10:54 AM | Report Abuse

its precisely due to aseng's perception some can make money..
they make money when aseng's perception changes...

as such, if aseng would not want HRC price to move up...he should try his level best not to change his opinion...

he has to be strong, determined and firm with it and should not re-evaluate his perceptions.

1. do you understand what the sifu talking about ,
if you understand why not put in in your own words to enlighten all the newbies here, of course, including me , who is most willing to learn from you

2. ask any accountant around here, inventories is the most common and most easy aspect in accounting to manipulate the EPS


Posted by pang72 > Jun 5, 2017 10:27 AM | Report Abuse

Aseng: both sifu are spending whole weekend to make explanation. It is very clear. I do not want repeat.
Just ignore me

what key points you are talking about ?
please specify , let me explain for you.

do you understand what are the sifu talking
they are just speculating or playing with the inventories gain or loss

be fair and rational



Posted by pang72 > Jun 5, 2017 09:54 AM | Report Abuse

You ate not picking up the key points by both sifu...

EPS for henyuan were 60sen + 90 sen
EPS for petronm were 40sen + 40 sen

market price

petronm : 8.4
hengyuang : 5.60

why??????????

after reading the comments of all the sifu here , i come to the conclusion

whatever hengyuan has , petronm also having
whatever petronm having , hengyuan does not have

business activities
hengyuan : refinery
petronm : refinery + retail sale

dividend
hengyuan : none
petronM : 22 sen + more

cash flow
henguyuan : negative
petronM : positive

net debt
hengyuan : huge
petronM : soon turn zero

credibility
hengyuan : red chip
petronm : blue chip

what sifu said
hengyuan : speculative good, fast and furious
petronM : strong buy ,safe and steady

more...........



just think in a most simple logic, if you a fund manager , where do you want to put the money

Sslee,

well said . I also wish Mr. Koon write more on politics rather on investment.

I hope you know your great sifu influence in the market, do not promote the stocks you have recommended to you subscribers to buy.
you are hurting the newbies indirectly with a clear conscience
thanks

we understand your difficulties
we understand your responsibilities to your subscribers
but you must understand your influence in this forum
if you have already recommended buy to your subscriber and at the same time also strongly recommended with a clear target price,
i find it hard to believe that your clear conscience and good intention will not do harm to many newbies here.
to me , currently ays is fully valued, your recommendation will definitely push the price higher and pitiful to those newbies who do not know to start taking profit at a 20% discount of your TP, what more to those who still believe the TP is still far away

I am just writing what i feel, no other intention,

hengyuan had just taken over the refinery from shell and producing an earning that is too dramatic to believe to a right thinking investor like most of us

China men are smart, they can create drama often, miracle one a while but not always

sifu has a large group of followers, he has the responsibility to make sure his followers exit happily, if not he will lose business . so, always prepare to take profit , do not be the last one to hold the bee nest

sifu has a large group of followers,this is a force theat you can't afford to ignore, remember , in any sort of trading, price is not determined by FA alone, but by the theory of demand and supply, follow this logic you will see price plunge when sifu and his subscribers start to exit. you must prepare to take profit when sifu and his followers are promoting hard for their buys.

Jay,
thanks , I increase my tp from 9 to 12 after you after reading your comment about EV/FCF.

icon8888, you are the most generous and unselfish sifu here.

Jay,
you have business sense , a good advice for newbie like me .

stockmanmy,

you are very sharp , a good accountant

looking at the chart and QR , I will buy a little to earn a cup starbuck coffee
but to keep for long term and hoping to make big money i scare i can't sleep well every night

paperplane siifu,

do you not fee thatl henyuan reported eps too dramatic , a chinese company, need a strong heart to hold for long term

for a great company , buy and forget is always the best strategy as long as it is still great