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2019-07-01 21:29 | Report Abuse
U guys think that Armada operator will so nice push up the price for u all to make money? The answer is won't. The smelly operator will attack everyone, including retailers , shorties , funds and institutions, and contra players
2019-07-01 19:49 | Report Abuse
If price tomorrow really continue up, then it's really kanasai for me already
2019-07-01 19:48 | Report Abuse
I don't believe I can't get any at 0.22 tomorrow or onwards
2019-07-01 19:48 | Report Abuse
Its totally manipulated by smelly n cunning shark behind, so that's why I'm still waiting at 0.21-0.22
2019-07-01 19:43 | Report Abuse
Waiting for Armada operator and EPF and even stupid shorties to give me their shares at 0.21-0.22 tomorrow, 9.5mil shares waiting for u
2019-07-01 19:43 | Report Abuse
Waiting for Armada operator and EPF and even stupid shorties to give me their shares at 0.21-0.22 tomorrow, 9.5mil shares waiting for u
2019-07-01 19:42 | Report Abuse
No shares will all the way up one, so it will have correction, so tomorrow will drop
2019-07-01 19:41 | Report Abuse
Actually last minute I queued 500k shares at 0.225 to sell, purposely to frighten it, but once I queued then nobody buy already, haha
2019-07-01 18:40 | Report Abuse
EPF will keep throwing, and shorties will all the way keep shorting, so price will drop
2019-07-01 18:39 | Report Abuse
U all forget EPF and shorties???
2019-07-01 18:12 | Report Abuse
Mm78, it won't break 0.23 la , u see tomorrow sure will drop
2019-07-01 18:10 | Report Abuse
In still waiting my 9.5m at range of 0.21-0.22 now
2019-07-01 18:10 | Report Abuse
Tomorrow drop back to 0.215-0 22
2019-07-01 16:08 | Report Abuse
Don't say 0.235, 0.23 also can't break
2019-07-01 16:08 | Report Abuse
Armada operator won't let it up one la, don't dream, today SURE won't break 0.235
2019-07-01 15:08 | Report Abuse
Told u all already, this Armada operator very smelly n cunning one, they won't push up for us, but they will keep collecting those stupid shorties shares
2019-07-01 15:02 | Report Abuse
That's why I'm still waiting at 0.21-0.22 now
2019-07-01 14:21 | Report Abuse
Haha, so huge block at 0.23, how to break?
2019-07-01 12:51 | Report Abuse
Shorties,hope u can short harder and harder, give me some shares at 0.22-0.225 today, then tomorrow drop back to 0.21
2019-07-01 12:48 | Report Abuse
Still haven't bought my shares back
2019-07-01 12:39 | Report Abuse
Im waiting my 9.5 mil shares at 0.215-0.225 range now, wtf
2019-07-01 12:28 | Report Abuse
If really break it means I don't have fate with Armada, wtf
2019-07-01 11:20 | Report Abuse
I'm very very very sure wont break 0.225
2019-07-01 10:48 | Report Abuse
Armada operator wants to force all to sell at 0.22
2019-07-01 10:27 | Report Abuse
Huge block at 0.225, it won't up one la
2019-07-01 10:08 | Report Abuse
That's what I said, don't dream, Armada operator won't let it go up much as they still want to collect super huge volume, n stupid shorties will just blindly shorting
2019-07-01 09:58 | Report Abuse
Told u guys it won't up much one because of shorties everyday exist
2019-07-01 08:21 | Report Abuse
Don't think it will up, today will trade around 0.205-0.215
2019-07-01 06:59 | Report Abuse
Based on the financial review of Armada with the latest addition of the 2 out of 3 GOOD NEWS, it was determined that (basically, nothing has changed from previously!) :-
PROOF – ARMADA REVENUES ARE NOT ENOUGH TO SETTLE DEBT
PROOF - 14.25 YEARS TO FULLY SETTLE DEBT IF REVENUE STABLE FOREVER BUT ITS FIRM IS ONLY UP TO 6.5 YEARS!
PROOF - NOT ENOUGH TO SETTLE INTEREST AND TAXES
PROOF – ARMADA CANNOT GET ANY MORE FINANCING
Armada’s ability to secure new contracts is likely to be 0%
PROOF - Armada has lost the momentum as a major player since 2014.
PROOF - Armada has been without a business development / sales team since 2014.
PROOF – Armada embroiled in various allegations from various countries including EU and INDONESIA.
PROOF – Armada’s strategic direction is uncertain due to controversies with its major shareholder.
PROOF – Armada’s behavior as a contractor has been one of litigation.
PROOF - You cannot bid for contracts if you do not have donor tankers.
PROOF – Armada’s recent FPSO is a lemon.
6.5 years to go or 27 Quarters to go. RM80 million net profit per Quarter optimistic assumption. That means RM2.1 billion in profits.
Rm20.5 billion confirmed sales for next 6.5 years. Actual operations profit from Rm20.5 billion is around Rm8.5 billion. Rm8.5 billion has to pay for everything under the Gross Profit line. And this doesn't include principle debt payments of Rm12.5 billion. Q results don't matter. And when oil industry recovers in 2030, Armada's assets are nearly 20 years old. End of life.
It is enough to pay off the RM13 billion debts (excluding interest)?
HOW TO MEET THE RM5.5 BILLION DEFICIT???
How much ADDITIONAL new revenue is needed for Armada?
=================================
Around RM13 billion in new sales / revenue.
=================================
That is not going to be achievable for Armada since it no longer has the reputation to get new contracts.
So it’s the crunch time now. What are the options available to the shareholders?
1. Take Armada private
2. Sell Armada
3. Dispose assets to continue to try to survive
1. Taking Armada private
Do you think that the main shareholders want to do so when Armada is an endless money pit with gutter reputation? Finance 101, get rid before you incur more losses.
2. Sell Armada
No one is buying Armada in this market until 2030. And the new shareholders have to deal with an incompetent management.
And new owners have to come up with an additional RM5 billion to pay off its debts.!!
3. Dispose assets to continue to survive
Assets are worth nothing as long as the market doesn’t recover until 2030. The asset are still being valued too high. Disposing assets wouldn’t be enough to settle Armada’s debts anyway.
With the review of the latest results, it was exceeding our expectations. Our view is now further reinforced that Armada will default. How much time left before Armada defaults? It would be next year when it defaults.
Despite the enthusiasm on the following: -
Speculated improvement in cash flows - Insufficient in 2020
Speculated settlement on Claire - Circa 25% of the asking compensation by Armada
Speculated award of new contracts - Nil probability
Speculated sale of assets - Highest bidder bidding at 10% of current NBVs
Armada would not be aggressively pursuing debt restructuring negotiations if the above were not in positive light. A highly anticipated default will still happen.
Given that the option to take private, to sell out and sell assets are not viable for Armada, what route will Armada take in such a event? PN17 and administrators will come in for sure.
We expect that Armada will be broken into many pieces. For the FPSOs, it would be taken over by their respective JV partners and other assets will be sold off to the highest bidder.
We expect institutional funds to lose all investments and creditors will not be paid 80% what is owed to them while debtors will be taken to court wherever possible.
As for the main shareholder, they have already clawed back their investments when they part disposed in 2011/12.
Looks like its "ride the train for as far as you can" before it breaks down.
2019-06-30 21:37 | Report Abuse
Based on the financial review of Armada with the latest addition of the 2 out of 3 GOOD NEWS, it was determined that (basically, nothing has changed from previously!) :-
PROOF – ARMADA REVENUES ARE NOT ENOUGH TO SETTLE DEBT
PROOF - 14.25 YEARS TO FULLY SETTLE DEBT IF REVENUE STABLE FOREVER BUT ITS FIRM IS ONLY UP TO 6.5 YEARS!
PROOF - NOT ENOUGH TO SETTLE INTEREST AND TAXES
PROOF – ARMADA CANNOT GET ANY MORE FINANCING
Armada’s ability to secure new contracts is likely to be 0%
PROOF - Armada has lost the momentum as a major player since 2014.
PROOF - Armada has been without a business development / sales team since 2014.
PROOF – Armada embroiled in various allegations from various countries including EU and INDONESIA.
PROOF – Armada’s strategic direction is uncertain due to controversies with its major shareholder.
PROOF – Armada’s behavior as a contractor has been one of litigation.
PROOF - You cannot bid for contracts if you do not have donor tankers.
PROOF – Armada’s recent FPSO is a lemon.
6.5 years to go or 27 Quarters to go. RM80 million net profit per Quarter optimistic assumption. That means RM2.1 billion in profits.
Rm20.5 billion confirmed sales for next 6.5 years. Actual operations profit from Rm20.5 billion is around Rm8.5 billion. Rm8.5 billion has to pay for everything under the Gross Profit line. And this doesn't include principle debt payments of Rm12.5 billion. Q results don't matter. And when oil industry recovers in 2030, Armada's assets are nearly 20 years old. End of life.
It is enough to pay off the RM13 billion debts (excluding interest)?
HOW TO MEET THE RM5.5 BILLION DEFICIT???
How much ADDITIONAL new revenue is needed for Armada?
=================================
Around RM13 billion in new sales / revenue.
=================================
That is not going to be achievable for Armada since it no longer has the reputation to get new contracts.
So it’s the crunch time now. What are the options available to the shareholders?
1. Take Armada private
2. Sell Armada
3. Dispose assets to continue to try to survive
1. Taking Armada private
Do you think that the main shareholders want to do so when Armada is an endless money pit with gutter reputation? Finance 101, get rid before you incur more losses.
2. Sell Armada
No one is buying Armada in this market until 2030. And the new shareholders have to deal with an incompetent management.
And new owners have to come up with an additional RM5 billion to pay off its debts.!!
3. Dispose assets to continue to survive
Assets are worth nothing as long as the market doesn’t recover until 2030. The asset are still being valued too high. Disposing assets wouldn’t be enough to settle Armada’s debts anyway.
With the review of the latest results, it was exceeding our expectations. Our view is now further reinforced that Armada will default. How much time left before Armada defaults? It would be next year when it defaults.
Despite the enthusiasm on the following: -
Speculated improvement in cash flows - Insufficient in 2020
Speculated settlement on Claire - Circa 25% of the asking compensation by Armada
Speculated award of new contracts - Nil probability
Speculated sale of assets - Highest bidder bidding at 10% of current NBVs
Armada would not be aggressively pursuing debt restructuring negotiations if the above were not in positive light. A highly anticipated default will still happen.
Given that the option to take private, to sell out and sell assets are not viable for Armada, what route will Armada take in such a event? PN17 and administrators will come in for sure.
We expect that Armada will be broken into many pieces. For the FPSOs, it would be taken over by their respective JV partners and other assets will be sold off to the highest bidder.
We expect institutional funds to lose all investments and creditors will not be paid 80% what is owed to them while debtors will be taken to court wherever possible.
As for the main shareholder, they have already clawed back their investments when they part disposed in 2011/12.
Looks like its "ride the train for as far as you can" before it breaks down.
2019-06-30 21:37 | Report Abuse
Based on the financial review of Armada with the latest addition of the 2 out of 3 GOOD NEWS, it was determined that (basically, nothing has changed from previously!) :-
PROOF – ARMADA REVENUES ARE NOT ENOUGH TO SETTLE DEBT
PROOF - 14.25 YEARS TO FULLY SETTLE DEBT IF REVENUE STABLE FOREVER BUT ITS FIRM IS ONLY UP TO 6.5 YEARS!
PROOF - NOT ENOUGH TO SETTLE INTEREST AND TAXES
PROOF – ARMADA CANNOT GET ANY MORE FINANCING
Armada’s ability to secure new contracts is likely to be 0%
PROOF - Armada has lost the momentum as a major player since 2014.
PROOF - Armada has been without a business development / sales team since 2014.
PROOF – Armada embroiled in various allegations from various countries including EU and INDONESIA.
PROOF – Armada’s strategic direction is uncertain due to controversies with its major shareholder.
PROOF – Armada’s behavior as a contractor has been one of litigation.
PROOF - You cannot bid for contracts if you do not have donor tankers.
PROOF – Armada’s recent FPSO is a lemon.
6.5 years to go or 27 Quarters to go. RM80 million net profit per Quarter optimistic assumption. That means RM2.1 billion in profits.
Rm20.5 billion confirmed sales for next 6.5 years. Actual operations profit from Rm20.5 billion is around Rm8.5 billion. Rm8.5 billion has to pay for everything under the Gross Profit line. And this doesn't include principle debt payments of Rm12.5 billion. Q results don't matter. And when oil industry recovers in 2030, Armada's assets are nearly 20 years old. End of life.
It is enough to pay off the RM13 billion debts (excluding interest)?
HOW TO MEET THE RM5.5 BILLION DEFICIT???
How much ADDITIONAL new revenue is needed for Armada?
=================================
Around RM13 billion in new sales / revenue.
=================================
That is not going to be achievable for Armada since it no longer has the reputation to get new contracts.
So it’s the crunch time now. What are the options available to the shareholders?
1. Take Armada private
2. Sell Armada
3. Dispose assets to continue to try to survive
1. Taking Armada private
Do you think that the main shareholders want to do so when Armada is an endless money pit with gutter reputation? Finance 101, get rid before you incur more losses.
2. Sell Armada
No one is buying Armada in this market until 2030. And the new shareholders have to deal with an incompetent management.
And new owners have to come up with an additional RM5 billion to pay off its debts.!!
3. Dispose assets to continue to survive
Assets are worth nothing as long as the market doesn’t recover until 2030. The asset are still being valued too high. Disposing assets wouldn’t be enough to settle Armada’s debts anyway.
With the review of the latest results, it was exceeding our expectations. Our view is now further reinforced that Armada will default. How much time left before Armada defaults? It would be next year when it defaults.
Despite the enthusiasm on the following: -
Speculated improvement in cash flows - Insufficient in 2020
Speculated settlement on Claire - Circa 25% of the asking compensation by Armada
Speculated award of new contracts - Nil probability
Speculated sale of assets - Highest bidder bidding at 10% of current NBVs
Armada would not be aggressively pursuing debt restructuring negotiations if the above were not in positive light. A highly anticipated default will still happen.
Given that the option to take private, to sell out and sell assets are not viable for Armada, what route will Armada take in such a event? PN17 and administrators will come in for sure.
We expect that Armada will be broken into many pieces. For the FPSOs, it would be taken over by their respective JV partners and other assets will be sold off to the highest bidder.
We expect institutional funds to lose all investments and creditors will not be paid 80% what is owed to them while debtors will be taken to court wherever possible.
As for the main shareholder, they have already clawed back their investments when they part disposed in 2011/12.
Looks like its "ride the train for as far as you can" before it breaks down.
2019-06-30 20:30 | Report Abuse
Based on the financial review of Armada with the latest addition of the 2 out of 3 GOOD NEWS, it was determined that (basically, nothing has changed from previously!) :-
PROOF – ARMADA REVENUES ARE NOT ENOUGH TO SETTLE DEBT
PROOF - 14.25 YEARS TO FULLY SETTLE DEBT IF REVENUE STABLE FOREVER BUT ITS FIRM IS ONLY UP TO 6.5 YEARS!
PROOF - NOT ENOUGH TO SETTLE INTEREST AND TAXES
PROOF – ARMADA CANNOT GET ANY MORE FINANCING
Armada’s ability to secure new contracts is likely to be 0%
PROOF - Armada has lost the momentum as a major player since 2014.
PROOF - Armada has been without a business development / sales team since 2014.
PROOF – Armada embroiled in various allegations from various countries including EU and INDONESIA.
PROOF – Armada’s strategic direction is uncertain due to controversies with its major shareholder.
PROOF – Armada’s behavior as a contractor has been one of litigation.
PROOF - You cannot bid for contracts if you do not have donor tankers.
PROOF – Armada’s recent FPSO is a lemon.
6.5 years to go or 27 Quarters to go. RM80 million net profit per Quarter optimistic assumption. That means RM2.1 billion in profits.
Rm20.5 billion confirmed sales for next 6.5 years. Actual operations profit from Rm20.5 billion is around Rm8.5 billion. Rm8.5 billion has to pay for everything under the Gross Profit line. And this doesn't include principle debt payments of Rm12.5 billion. Q results don't matter. And when oil industry recovers in 2030, Armada's assets are nearly 20 years old. End of life.
It is enough to pay off the RM13 billion debts (excluding interest)?
HOW TO MEET THE RM5.5 BILLION DEFICIT???
How much ADDITIONAL new revenue is needed for Armada?
=================================
Around RM13 billion in new sales / revenue.
=================================
That is not going to be achievable for Armada since it no longer has the reputation to get new contracts.
So it’s the crunch time now. What are the options available to the shareholders?
1. Take Armada private
2. Sell Armada
3. Dispose assets to continue to try to survive
1. Taking Armada private
Do you think that the main shareholders want to do so when Armada is an endless money pit with gutter reputation? Finance 101, get rid before you incur more losses.
2. Sell Armada
No one is buying Armada in this market until 2030. And the new shareholders have to deal with an incompetent management.
And new owners have to come up with an additional RM5 billion to pay off its debts.!!
3. Dispose assets to continue to survive
Assets are worth nothing as long as the market doesn’t recover until 2030. The asset are still being valued too high. Disposing assets wouldn’t be enough to settle Armada’s debts anyway.
With the review of the latest results, it was exceeding our expectations. Our view is now further reinforced that Armada will default. How much time left before Armada defaults? It would be next year when it defaults.
Despite the enthusiasm on the following: -
Speculated improvement in cash flows - Insufficient in 2020
Speculated settlement on Claire - Circa 25% of the asking compensation by Armada
Speculated award of new contracts - Nil probability
Speculated sale of assets - Highest bidder bidding at 10% of current NBVs
Armada would not be aggressively pursuing debt restructuring negotiations if the above were not in positive light. A highly anticipated default will still happen.
Given that the option to take private, to sell out and sell assets are not viable for Armada, what route will Armada take in such a event? PN17 and administrators will come in for sure.
We expect that Armada will be broken into many pieces. For the FPSOs, it would be taken over by their respective JV partners and other assets will be sold off to the highest bidder.
We expect institutional funds to lose all investments and creditors will not be paid 80% what is owed to them while debtors will be taken to court wherever possible.
As for the main shareholder, they have already clawed back their investments when they part disposed in 2011/12.
Looks like its "ride the train for as far as you can" before it breaks down.
2019-06-30 20:30 | Report Abuse
Based on the financial review of Armada with the latest addition of the 2 out of 3 GOOD NEWS, it was determined that (basically, nothing has changed from previously!) :-
PROOF – ARMADA REVENUES ARE NOT ENOUGH TO SETTLE DEBT
PROOF - 14.25 YEARS TO FULLY SETTLE DEBT IF REVENUE STABLE FOREVER BUT ITS FIRM IS ONLY UP TO 6.5 YEARS!
PROOF - NOT ENOUGH TO SETTLE INTEREST AND TAXES
PROOF – ARMADA CANNOT GET ANY MORE FINANCING
Armada’s ability to secure new contracts is likely to be 0%
PROOF - Armada has lost the momentum as a major player since 2014.
PROOF - Armada has been without a business development / sales team since 2014.
PROOF – Armada embroiled in various allegations from various countries including EU and INDONESIA.
PROOF – Armada’s strategic direction is uncertain due to controversies with its major shareholder.
PROOF – Armada’s behavior as a contractor has been one of litigation.
PROOF - You cannot bid for contracts if you do not have donor tankers.
PROOF – Armada’s recent FPSO is a lemon.
6.5 years to go or 27 Quarters to go. RM80 million net profit per Quarter optimistic assumption. That means RM2.1 billion in profits.
Rm20.5 billion confirmed sales for next 6.5 years. Actual operations profit from Rm20.5 billion is around Rm8.5 billion. Rm8.5 billion has to pay for everything under the Gross Profit line. And this doesn't include principle debt payments of Rm12.5 billion. Q results don't matter. And when oil industry recovers in 2030, Armada's assets are nearly 20 years old. End of life.
It is enough to pay off the RM13 billion debts (excluding interest)?
HOW TO MEET THE RM5.5 BILLION DEFICIT???
How much ADDITIONAL new revenue is needed for Armada?
=================================
Around RM13 billion in new sales / revenue.
=================================
That is not going to be achievable for Armada since it no longer has the reputation to get new contracts.
So it’s the crunch time now. What are the options available to the shareholders?
1. Take Armada private
2. Sell Armada
3. Dispose assets to continue to try to survive
1. Taking Armada private
Do you think that the main shareholders want to do so when Armada is an endless money pit with gutter reputation? Finance 101, get rid before you incur more losses.
2. Sell Armada
No one is buying Armada in this market until 2030. And the new shareholders have to deal with an incompetent management.
And new owners have to come up with an additional RM5 billion to pay off its debts.!!
3. Dispose assets to continue to survive
Assets are worth nothing as long as the market doesn’t recover until 2030. The asset are still being valued too high. Disposing assets wouldn’t be enough to settle Armada’s debts anyway.
With the review of the latest results, it was exceeding our expectations. Our view is now further reinforced that Armada will default. How much time left before Armada defaults? It would be next year when it defaults.
Despite the enthusiasm on the following: -
Speculated improvement in cash flows - Insufficient in 2020
Speculated settlement on Claire - Circa 25% of the asking compensation by Armada
Speculated award of new contracts - Nil probability
Speculated sale of assets - Highest bidder bidding at 10% of current NBVs
Armada would not be aggressively pursuing debt restructuring negotiations if the above were not in positive light. A highly anticipated default will still happen.
Given that the option to take private, to sell out and sell assets are not viable for Armada, what route will Armada take in such a event? PN17 and administrators will come in for sure.
We expect that Armada will be broken into many pieces. For the FPSOs, it would be taken over by their respective JV partners and other assets will be sold off to the highest bidder.
We expect institutional funds to lose all investments and creditors will not be paid 80% what is owed to them while debtors will be taken to court wherever possible.
As for the main shareholder, they have already clawed back their investments when they part disposed in 2011/12.
Looks like its "ride the train for as far as you can" before it breaks down.
2019-06-30 20:29 | Report Abuse
Based on the financial review of Armada with the latest addition of the 2 out of 3 GOOD NEWS, it was determined that (basically, nothing has changed from previously!) :-
PROOF – ARMADA REVENUES ARE NOT ENOUGH TO SETTLE DEBT
PROOF - 14.25 YEARS TO FULLY SETTLE DEBT IF REVENUE STABLE FOREVER BUT ITS FIRM IS ONLY UP TO 6.5 YEARS!
PROOF - NOT ENOUGH TO SETTLE INTEREST AND TAXES
PROOF – ARMADA CANNOT GET ANY MORE FINANCING
Armada’s ability to secure new contracts is likely to be 0%
PROOF - Armada has lost the momentum as a major player since 2014.
PROOF - Armada has been without a business development / sales team since 2014.
PROOF – Armada embroiled in various allegations from various countries including EU and INDONESIA.
PROOF – Armada’s strategic direction is uncertain due to controversies with its major shareholder.
PROOF – Armada’s behavior as a contractor has been one of litigation.
PROOF - You cannot bid for contracts if you do not have donor tankers.
PROOF – Armada’s recent FPSO is a lemon.
6.5 years to go or 27 Quarters to go. RM80 million net profit per Quarter optimistic assumption. That means RM2.1 billion in profits.
Rm20.5 billion confirmed sales for next 6.5 years. Actual operations profit from Rm20.5 billion is around Rm8.5 billion. Rm8.5 billion has to pay for everything under the Gross Profit line. And this doesn't include principle debt payments of Rm12.5 billion. Q results don't matter. And when oil industry recovers in 2030, Armada's assets are nearly 20 years old. End of life.
It is enough to pay off the RM13 billion debts (excluding interest)?
HOW TO MEET THE RM5.5 BILLION DEFICIT???
How much ADDITIONAL new revenue is needed for Armada?
=================================
Around RM13 billion in new sales / revenue.
=================================
That is not going to be achievable for Armada since it no longer has the reputation to get new contracts.
So it’s the crunch time now. What are the options available to the shareholders?
1. Take Armada private
2. Sell Armada
3. Dispose assets to continue to try to survive
1. Taking Armada private
Do you think that the main shareholders want to do so when Armada is an endless money pit with gutter reputation? Finance 101, get rid before you incur more losses.
2. Sell Armada
No one is buying Armada in this market until 2030. And the new shareholders have to deal with an incompetent management.
And new owners have to come up with an additional RM5 billion to pay off its debts.!!
3. Dispose assets to continue to survive
Assets are worth nothing as long as the market doesn’t recover until 2030. The asset are still being valued too high. Disposing assets wouldn’t be enough to settle Armada’s debts anyway.
With the review of the latest results, it was exceeding our expectations. Our view is now further reinforced that Armada will default. How much time left before Armada defaults? It would be next year when it defaults.
Despite the enthusiasm on the following: -
Speculated improvement in cash flows - Insufficient in 2020
Speculated settlement on Claire - Circa 25% of the asking compensation by Armada
Speculated award of new contracts - Nil probability
Speculated sale of assets - Highest bidder bidding at 10% of current NBVs
Armada would not be aggressively pursuing debt restructuring negotiations if the above were not in positive light. A highly anticipated default will still happen.
Given that the option to take private, to sell out and sell assets are not viable for Armada, what route will Armada take in such a event? PN17 and administrators will come in for sure.
We expect that Armada will be broken into many pieces. For the FPSOs, it would be taken over by their respective JV partners and other assets will be sold off to the highest bidder.
We expect institutional funds to lose all investments and creditors will not be paid 80% what is owed to them while debtors will be taken to court wherever possible.
As for the main shareholder, they have already clawed back their investments when they part disposed in 2011/12.
Looks like its "ride the train for as far as you can" before it breaks down.
2019-06-30 18:51 | Report Abuse
Based on the financial review of Armada with the latest addition of the 2 out of 3 GOOD NEWS, it was determined that (basically, nothing has changed from previously!) :-
PROOF – ARMADA REVENUES ARE NOT ENOUGH TO SETTLE DEBT
PROOF - 14.25 YEARS TO FULLY SETTLE DEBT IF REVENUE STABLE FOREVER BUT ITS FIRM IS ONLY UP TO 6.5 YEARS!
PROOF - NOT ENOUGH TO SETTLE INTEREST AND TAXES
PROOF – ARMADA CANNOT GET ANY MORE FINANCING
Armada’s ability to secure new contracts is likely to be 0%
PROOF - Armada has lost the momentum as a major player since 2014.
PROOF - Armada has been without a business development / sales team since 2014.
PROOF – Armada embroiled in various allegations from various countries including EU and INDONESIA.
PROOF – Armada’s strategic direction is uncertain due to controversies with its major shareholder.
PROOF – Armada’s behavior as a contractor has been one of litigation.
PROOF - You cannot bid for contracts if you do not have donor tankers.
PROOF – Armada’s recent FPSO is a lemon.
6.5 years to go or 27 Quarters to go. RM80 million net profit per Quarter optimistic assumption. That means RM2.1 billion in profits.
Rm20.5 billion confirmed sales for next 6.5 years. Actual operations profit from Rm20.5 billion is around Rm8.5 billion. Rm8.5 billion has to pay for everything under the Gross Profit line. And this doesn't include principle debt payments of Rm12.5 billion. Q results don't matter. And when oil industry recovers in 2030, Armada's assets are nearly 20 years old. End of life.
It is enough to pay off the RM13 billion debts (excluding interest)?
HOW TO MEET THE RM5.5 BILLION DEFICIT???
How much ADDITIONAL new revenue is needed for Armada?
=================================
Around RM13 billion in new sales / revenue.
=================================
That is not going to be achievable for Armada since it no longer has the reputation to get new contracts.
So it’s the crunch time now. What are the options available to the shareholders?
1. Take Armada private
2. Sell Armada
3. Dispose assets to continue to try to survive
1. Taking Armada private
Do you think that the main shareholders want to do so when Armada is an endless money pit with gutter reputation? Finance 101, get rid before you incur more losses.
2. Sell Armada
No one is buying Armada in this market until 2030. And the new shareholders have to deal with an incompetent management.
And new owners have to come up with an additional RM5 billion to pay off its debts.!!
3. Dispose assets to continue to survive
Assets are worth nothing as long as the market doesn’t recover until 2030. The asset are still being valued too high. Disposing assets wouldn’t be enough to settle Armada’s debts anyway.
With the review of the latest results, it was exceeding our expectations. Our view is now further reinforced that Armada will default. How much time left before Armada defaults? It would be next year when it defaults.
Despite the enthusiasm on the following: -
Speculated improvement in cash flows - Insufficient in 2020
Speculated settlement on Claire - Circa 25% of the asking compensation by Armada
Speculated award of new contracts - Nil probability
Speculated sale of assets - Highest bidder bidding at 10% of current NBVs
Armada would not be aggressively pursuing debt restructuring negotiations if the above were not in positive light. A highly anticipated default will still happen.
Given that the option to take private, to sell out and sell assets are not viable for Armada, what route will Armada take in such a event? PN17 and administrators will come in for sure.
We expect that Armada will be broken into many pieces. For the FPSOs, it would be taken over by their respective JV partners and other assets will be sold off to the highest bidder.
We expect institutional funds to lose all investments and creditors will not be paid 80% what is owed to them while debtors will be taken to court wherever possible.
As for the main shareholder, they have already clawed back their investments when they part disposed in 2011/12.
Looks like its "ride the train for as far as you can" before it breaks down.
2019-06-30 18:51 | Report Abuse
Based on the financial review of Armada with the latest addition of the 2 out of 3 GOOD NEWS, it was determined that (basically, nothing has changed from previously!) :-
PROOF – ARMADA REVENUES ARE NOT ENOUGH TO SETTLE DEBT
PROOF - 14.25 YEARS TO FULLY SETTLE DEBT IF REVENUE STABLE FOREVER BUT ITS FIRM IS ONLY UP TO 6.5 YEARS!
PROOF - NOT ENOUGH TO SETTLE INTEREST AND TAXES
PROOF – ARMADA CANNOT GET ANY MORE FINANCING
Armada’s ability to secure new contracts is likely to be 0%
PROOF - Armada has lost the momentum as a major player since 2014.
PROOF - Armada has been without a business development / sales team since 2014.
PROOF – Armada embroiled in various allegations from various countries including EU and INDONESIA.
PROOF – Armada’s strategic direction is uncertain due to controversies with its major shareholder.
PROOF – Armada’s behavior as a contractor has been one of litigation.
PROOF - You cannot bid for contracts if you do not have donor tankers.
PROOF – Armada’s recent FPSO is a lemon.
6.5 years to go or 27 Quarters to go. RM80 million net profit per Quarter optimistic assumption. That means RM2.1 billion in profits.
Rm20.5 billion confirmed sales for next 6.5 years. Actual operations profit from Rm20.5 billion is around Rm8.5 billion. Rm8.5 billion has to pay for everything under the Gross Profit line. And this doesn't include principle debt payments of Rm12.5 billion. Q results don't matter. And when oil industry recovers in 2030, Armada's assets are nearly 20 years old. End of life.
It is enough to pay off the RM13 billion debts (excluding interest)?
HOW TO MEET THE RM5.5 BILLION DEFICIT???
How much ADDITIONAL new revenue is needed for Armada?
=================================
Around RM13 billion in new sales / revenue.
=================================
That is not going to be achievable for Armada since it no longer has the reputation to get new contracts.
So it’s the crunch time now. What are the options available to the shareholders?
1. Take Armada private
2. Sell Armada
3. Dispose assets to continue to try to survive
1. Taking Armada private
Do you think that the main shareholders want to do so when Armada is an endless money pit with gutter reputation? Finance 101, get rid before you incur more losses.
2. Sell Armada
No one is buying Armada in this market until 2030. And the new shareholders have to deal with an incompetent management.
And new owners have to come up with an additional RM5 billion to pay off its debts.!!
3. Dispose assets to continue to survive
Assets are worth nothing as long as the market doesn’t recover until 2030. The asset are still being valued too high. Disposing assets wouldn’t be enough to settle Armada’s debts anyway.
With the review of the latest results, it was exceeding our expectations. Our view is now further reinforced that Armada will default. How much time left before Armada defaults? It would be next year when it defaults.
Despite the enthusiasm on the following: -
Speculated improvement in cash flows - Insufficient in 2020
Speculated settlement on Claire - Circa 25% of the asking compensation by Armada
Speculated award of new contracts - Nil probability
Speculated sale of assets - Highest bidder bidding at 10% of current NBVs
Armada would not be aggressively pursuing debt restructuring negotiations if the above were not in positive light. A highly anticipated default will still happen.
Given that the option to take private, to sell out and sell assets are not viable for Armada, what route will Armada take in such a event? PN17 and administrators will come in for sure.
We expect that Armada will be broken into many pieces. For the FPSOs, it would be taken over by their respective JV partners and other assets will be sold off to the highest bidder.
We expect institutional funds to lose all investments and creditors will not be paid 80% what is owed to them while debtors will be taken to court wherever possible.
As for the main shareholder, they have already clawed back their investments when they part disposed in 2011/12.
Looks like its "ride the train for as far as you can" before it breaks down.
2019-06-30 18:51 | Report Abuse
Based on the financial review of Armada with the latest addition of the 2 out of 3 GOOD NEWS, it was determined that (basically, nothing has changed from previously!) :-
PROOF – ARMADA REVENUES ARE NOT ENOUGH TO SETTLE DEBT
PROOF - 14.25 YEARS TO FULLY SETTLE DEBT IF REVENUE STABLE FOREVER BUT ITS FIRM IS ONLY UP TO 6.5 YEARS!
PROOF - NOT ENOUGH TO SETTLE INTEREST AND TAXES
PROOF – ARMADA CANNOT GET ANY MORE FINANCING
Armada’s ability to secure new contracts is likely to be 0%
PROOF - Armada has lost the momentum as a major player since 2014.
PROOF - Armada has been without a business development / sales team since 2014.
PROOF – Armada embroiled in various allegations from various countries including EU and INDONESIA.
PROOF – Armada’s strategic direction is uncertain due to controversies with its major shareholder.
PROOF – Armada’s behavior as a contractor has been one of litigation.
PROOF - You cannot bid for contracts if you do not have donor tankers.
PROOF – Armada’s recent FPSO is a lemon.
6.5 years to go or 27 Quarters to go. RM80 million net profit per Quarter optimistic assumption. That means RM2.1 billion in profits.
Rm20.5 billion confirmed sales for next 6.5 years. Actual operations profit from Rm20.5 billion is around Rm8.5 billion. Rm8.5 billion has to pay for everything under the Gross Profit line. And this doesn't include principle debt payments of Rm12.5 billion. Q results don't matter. And when oil industry recovers in 2030, Armada's assets are nearly 20 years old. End of life.
It is enough to pay off the RM13 billion debts (excluding interest)?
HOW TO MEET THE RM5.5 BILLION DEFICIT???
How much ADDITIONAL new revenue is needed for Armada?
=================================
Around RM13 billion in new sales / revenue.
=================================
That is not going to be achievable for Armada since it no longer has the reputation to get new contracts.
So it’s the crunch time now. What are the options available to the shareholders?
1. Take Armada private
2. Sell Armada
3. Dispose assets to continue to try to survive
1. Taking Armada private
Do you think that the main shareholders want to do so when Armada is an endless money pit with gutter reputation? Finance 101, get rid before you incur more losses.
2. Sell Armada
No one is buying Armada in this market until 2030. And the new shareholders have to deal with an incompetent management.
And new owners have to come up with an additional RM5 billion to pay off its debts.!!
3. Dispose assets to continue to survive
Assets are worth nothing as long as the market doesn’t recover until 2030. The asset are still being valued too high. Disposing assets wouldn’t be enough to settle Armada’s debts anyway.
With the review of the latest results, it was exceeding our expectations. Our view is now further reinforced that Armada will default. How much time left before Armada defaults? It would be next year when it defaults.
Despite the enthusiasm on the following: -
Speculated improvement in cash flows - Insufficient in 2020
Speculated settlement on Claire - Circa 25% of the asking compensation by Armada
Speculated award of new contracts - Nil probability
Speculated sale of assets - Highest bidder bidding at 10% of current NBVs
Armada would not be aggressively pursuing debt restructuring negotiations if the above were not in positive light. A highly anticipated default will still happen.
Given that the option to take private, to sell out and sell assets are not viable for Armada, what route will Armada take in such a event? PN17 and administrators will come in for sure.
We expect that Armada will be broken into many pieces. For the FPSOs, it would be taken over by their respective JV partners and other assets will be sold off to the highest bidder.
We expect institutional funds to lose all investments and creditors will not be paid 80% what is owed to them while debtors will be taken to court wherever possible.
As for the main shareholder, they have already clawed back their investments when they part disposed in 2011/12.
Looks like its "ride the train for as far as you can" before it breaks down.
2019-06-30 18:51 | Report Abuse
Based on the financial review of Armada with the latest addition of the 2 out of 3 GOOD NEWS, it was determined that (basically, nothing has changed from previously!) :-
PROOF – ARMADA REVENUES ARE NOT ENOUGH TO SETTLE DEBT
PROOF - 14.25 YEARS TO FULLY SETTLE DEBT IF REVENUE STABLE FOREVER BUT ITS FIRM IS ONLY UP TO 6.5 YEARS!
PROOF - NOT ENOUGH TO SETTLE INTEREST AND TAXES
PROOF – ARMADA CANNOT GET ANY MORE FINANCING
Armada’s ability to secure new contracts is likely to be 0%
PROOF - Armada has lost the momentum as a major player since 2014.
PROOF - Armada has been without a business development / sales team since 2014.
PROOF – Armada embroiled in various allegations from various countries including EU and INDONESIA.
PROOF – Armada’s strategic direction is uncertain due to controversies with its major shareholder.
PROOF – Armada’s behavior as a contractor has been one of litigation.
PROOF - You cannot bid for contracts if you do not have donor tankers.
PROOF – Armada’s recent FPSO is a lemon.
6.5 years to go or 27 Quarters to go. RM80 million net profit per Quarter optimistic assumption. That means RM2.1 billion in profits.
Rm20.5 billion confirmed sales for next 6.5 years. Actual operations profit from Rm20.5 billion is around Rm8.5 billion. Rm8.5 billion has to pay for everything under the Gross Profit line. And this doesn't include principle debt payments of Rm12.5 billion. Q results don't matter. And when oil industry recovers in 2030, Armada's assets are nearly 20 years old. End of life.
It is enough to pay off the RM13 billion debts (excluding interest)?
HOW TO MEET THE RM5.5 BILLION DEFICIT???
How much ADDITIONAL new revenue is needed for Armada?
=================================
Around RM13 billion in new sales / revenue.
=================================
That is not going to be achievable for Armada since it no longer has the reputation to get new contracts.
So it’s the crunch time now. What are the options available to the shareholders?
1. Take Armada private
2. Sell Armada
3. Dispose assets to continue to try to survive
1. Taking Armada private
Do you think that the main shareholders want to do so when Armada is an endless money pit with gutter reputation? Finance 101, get rid before you incur more losses.
2. Sell Armada
No one is buying Armada in this market until 2030. And the new shareholders have to deal with an incompetent management.
And new owners have to come up with an additional RM5 billion to pay off its debts.!!
3. Dispose assets to continue to survive
Assets are worth nothing as long as the market doesn’t recover until 2030. The asset are still being valued too high. Disposing assets wouldn’t be enough to settle Armada’s debts anyway.
With the review of the latest results, it was exceeding our expectations. Our view is now further reinforced that Armada will default. How much time left before Armada defaults? It would be next year when it defaults.
Despite the enthusiasm on the following: -
Speculated improvement in cash flows - Insufficient in 2020
Speculated settlement on Claire - Circa 25% of the asking compensation by Armada
Speculated award of new contracts - Nil probability
Speculated sale of assets - Highest bidder bidding at 10% of current NBVs
Armada would not be aggressively pursuing debt restructuring negotiations if the above were not in positive light. A highly anticipated default will still happen.
Given that the option to take private, to sell out and sell assets are not viable for Armada, what route will Armada take in such a event? PN17 and administrators will come in for sure.
We expect that Armada will be broken into many pieces. For the FPSOs, it would be taken over by their respective JV partners and other assets will be sold off to the highest bidder.
We expect institutional funds to lose all investments and creditors will not be paid 80% what is owed to them while debtors will be taken to court wherever possible.
As for the main shareholder, they have already clawed back their investments when they part disposed in 2011/12.
Looks like its "ride the train for as far as you can" before it breaks down.
2019-06-30 18:50 | Report Abuse
Canjunmin, I also wish, but I don't think so , wait for me to collect back at 0.205 & 0.200 first
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2019-07-01 21:29 | Report Abuse
So Armada operator definitely will let it drop back to force the contra players to sell back their shares to them