I don't like anything else about Lionind...I hate parkson alot... But I like HBI...

And I like how WC is gonna make the bank look stupid as he ties megasteel up and sink it to the bottom.

Well OTB, if really KYY exited before your subscriber did and they became victim for believing in you, then, you know your reputation is gonna be in deep shit. Lame excuses like "Investment is like that one mar, got win got lose", "Economic environment has changed", or "100%, 200% 2015, 2016" from successful punting/manipulation it's a gonna be cliche.

It's gonna so bad that if I want to buy in, I will pay you to write something there to create a selldown because you reputation is gonna be that bad. ahahaha.

This feels like gambling den...Big small table...

A bunch screaming "big big big"...
The the other screaming "small small small"....

Then got another bunch that's not invested making alot of noise. Waiting to scream..."hiuuuuuuuuu!!!"

I will study the report and re-rate.

Buy back if revenue stream is strong and no huge financial burden.

SuperPanda, qqq3, and all the naysayer, between good QR and bad QR, what do you prefer it to be?

A good QR or a bad QR?

Try ask yourself how many knows what Penta, Vitrox, Elsoft or VIS really do? What are their products. Who is their customer, What's their margin and their sales cycle? My best guess is 5% top. And I'm not in the 5% even. *wink

i load up 4 QR before this...All I can say is it really test my patience. * shakehead.

I made few rounds of money since 0.55 era.

EPF buys sapura too bro....and did u attend the AGM and secular issued by EPF on re-election of stupid Sapura's CEO?

The thing is EPF plays very long term game. So long that it will outlast ANY chart you can come out with.

The things, price will re-rate with revenue visibility and debt drawdown. Other than that, threat on high finance cost will deter anyone to buy it at higher price. And finance cost don't give a damm if you are profitable or if you completes your project on time.

Important thing for Armada down to confirming Kraken's acceptance and new project. Head and shoulder, golden triangle or knees at the ball. Will not help.

has ur head and shoulder washed down into drain yet luke? Gosh, when is people gonna learn?

Isn’t this better? Gotta learn how 5% effiencies improvement translates to what kind of profit.

Panda, punting can only get u that far. Real winner are those who can identify the worth of a business and buys it when it’s undervalue. That’s not a skills punters are interested nor easy to pick up.

This is where u r wrong panda. Blue chips doesn’t offer 400-800% capital gain.

That’s on top of nothing to study, and super boring as if there is anything new to learn about Maybank or Genting.

As if How people change their mind from down to up and up to down would hv change the business dynamics of VIS...

Stop assuming people know...people know...they don’t know shit...including myself despite spending a year following this counter...

Bcos if people really know, bourse is a boring place. Opportunity lies between those who knows a little bit more than those who knows and whole lot more than those who doesn’t. If everyone is as pragmatic as me, bourse will be boring place.

I only get busy 4 times a year reading QR and

If li hui ta starts selling, then it would be abit worrying.

that fella had 700k share in 2017, but sold all of it in 2017. He must hv bought it this year and selling it again.

Quite sure make Money...One shot off load the good news and create panic buy...

Ur 90% confidence comes from looking left and right multiple times. Ur method is more like dive straight in Bcos golden rules.

U hv to atleast know how they run the biz. That’s a yi Ma
, gu che, auntie n unker co....pay who also won’t pay u first. It’s evident from its revenue to profit ratio.

C what happens next 90 mins...

hmmm...For some reason no one is interested selling or buying...

300mil revenue can hardly get 1% profit...it only spell ONE or TWO things...

1) Poor management. 2) yi ma,gu che, auntie, auncle all sitting in the company.
Every AGM announce fat bonus to themselves. Bo qi chia also difficult.

If uncle do write up share his analysis of business dynamics in general. I will be interested.
But Uncle share analysis of only business that after he buys...Then, it comes with ulterior motive...

Well, that's consistent with reality that there is no such thing as something for nothing.

Having that said, I used to hold frontken at 0.29. I cut win at 0.43. Now feel like jumping off the window. LOL! Now, contemplating on Uncle's advise, if I should admit my mistake and buy back. That means MORE RESEARCH AND WORK.

@panda, better one are frontken and vis for near term punting...
Hiaptek i think most also give u 6-8c top. Performance too erratic.

Greetings...

Nothing is certain in the market...hence, the word hopefully.

It should start moving next 3 weeks before QR out...and more movement after it’s out...reason is not many people here’s actually understands its QR...they sell even its a super good report Bcos they don’t understand it...

For some reason, the pump up normally happens on wed and Thursday....

Hopefully, another good show today...

U so Lek Chai, then please do enlighten who is gonna support EPF le?

Oppsss...Nampak sangat....

I wonder what are you trying to do Lukesharewalker? I wonder if you can get laid if you see a virgo in the chart....=D

Nothing to promote...I followed that counter Ranhill...

360-380mil revenue with about 10-15mil profit since forever. What? People suddenly interested to pay sewage bills or what?

Only good story to tell is they consistently paid 6-7sen dividend. that's equivalent of 8-10% interest. It's really good place to park your million dollar as retirement fund. Not easy to convince the market to trade at RM1 or RM1.5.

Ding dong here since forever

aiyoyo paktua, that's abit careless le. Upto paktua to cut loss or wait QR come out...

My avg about 0.75...I like buying downtrending counter, bcos any news makes it easier to go up and panic buy as long fundamental isn't too bad...

KYY's age is catching up i guess. His analysis these days are pretty superficial.
Unlike those days when he studied counter that gave him 400%, 800% and etc etc.

The resolution is less. We can apply his wisdom, how diligent he does his research and discipline he sticks to his investing principles once upon a time. Those are what's worthy to pass on.

But, so-so on his analysis. It's upto you guys to do your research. If you do enough homework, you will be confident entering exam hall and 80~90% confident of ur result after the exam...If you don't score you expect; time to look into mirror. That's all.

Life will go through series of such cycle, you will be tested again and again. What matters is do your work and get better each time.

Paktua72, ur average how much there?

That side got a lot lousy investors. I learn my lesson too. Don’t promote good counters to lousy investor. All those monkeys do is create volatility.

Pang72 still sapu kah? I guess he will be the only one laughing to the bank if it go up RM2...

The rest here gam mo lan...

Report EPS 10, then shit talker MIA...

Aiya...investment is a long term game la....u might hv a good month, u shout u won a civic, when u hv a bad month, mar sit quiet quiet at a corner...

CalvinTan, u r no exception la....if u say u r exception, I recommended u to go f urself la...top performer Buffet also only averages 16% nia. Damm obvious every one has good month and bad month. Don’t pretend u were nvr sor Chai before...it’s just Buffet on average is less Sorchai...

The ding dong shows there are so many traders that sells at 0.005 profit...

I think it’s meant as a joke...i had a laugh there...

Come come...think of something else to pump the share up higher tmr...

I’m forecasting good QR on vis...can come pong chan...

It was proposed 2.5sen. I was hoping for something like they review to 5sen or smtg. hahahha

anyway, it's good.

should be above 91c, the equivalent of RM1.2 before bonus issue...

i wonder, how u know if TH FM are any better than KYY or OTB?

FM also not as good as they think they are and they selling doesn't mean anything.

Great news. 2.5 sen dividend.

if u sapu...u honda civic become axia liao...but still good la...still got axia...
Lol

Pang72 unusually quiet ya? U tapao how many lots today at RM1.18? Managed to sapu all?

waiting for "newsssss" apparently. Lol.

I'm interested in the content of next quarter report.

why will the market wants to trade DUFU at RM3?

If anyone can answer that question, then YES it will....E.g. sale of both WD and Seagate trippled, or company announcing RM1 per share dividend. Yes, RM5 also no problem....hehehe

Speaking from hindsight, now I know why vitrox, MI, and penta's growth, and what were their catalyst. If I hv those data/info before; I would hv sailang in all of them

I'm not gan cheong to sell when I averaged down alot at 0.68...

I still think eps 8 = RM1.6, and if EPS not 8, I will wanna know where went wrong...
That will tell who OTB, KYY and WC is...

Problem is he is not obliged to tell here publicly that he sold...

Interesting read...where do I find the latest report?

https://www.trade.gov/steel/countries/pdfs/imports-Malaysia.pdf

@mneo, Last Lionind QR showed that Lionind was impacted minimally. How does impact on Mycron affects Lionind? Please explain.

Look at the debts Megasteel piled up. If it's making EPS 40 sen, we would be buying Megasteel instead of Lionind liao. Why megasteel asset can't make megasteel money?

The P and the E are both variables. And we have better understanding of the E than the P.

E depends on the business dynamics. Which can be identified with thorough research.
P depends of kegilaan market.

You mean the sentiment at the point of valuation, is bad; PE is bad. For the good counter with strong earning ability under bad sentiment; that's pretty attractive counter. A better question to ask is if the bad sentiment is warranted? E.g. Megasteel is indeed a liability. That has major influence to its earning.

@probability,

1) I AM from engineering background fyi.

2) How the plant is priced has nothing to do with my engineering background nor engineering itself. But it's value although depreciated has strong tie to it's economics of buying it. A good old car can potentially sells with better value for money than expensive new car. If that makes sense to you.

3) For HY, oil plunged to USD35 making it profitable. Something changed. Then, price went up to USD70, like the old HY, it's not profitable because HY didn't change. EPS plunged. EPS plunged further for not able to meet compliance standard.

4) If buying over old plant that piled alot debts; that's buying liability instead of asset if nothing changed. Something much have changed or else it's blardy bad news.

Something must change. And if the changes is going to be profitable. Else, ask come ask Tun M here do the punting also won't help. That's equivalent of pour money into bottomless pit. I think the game changer here is China Blue Sky Policy, cost efficient HBI process, and import tariff imposed by MITI. The threat is trade war and slow down on infra projects.

Let's see how the benefits and threat affects Lionind EPS shall we? Exciting times!

Here comes the punter.

I will join the punting...OTB says uptrend, KYY stake in. pang72 TP 50.0, wait, is it RM5 or RM50? Ahhh, whatever. paktua73 want sing song?

TP 1.6 given EPS maintains 8. If more, do your own study and find out when to sell.