https://www.theedgemarkets.com/article/hibiscus-petroleum-completes-acquisition-two-north-sea-blocks

That's like leverage on top of leverage. Either fast become rich or fast go bankrupt

Use margin to buy warrants?

Just made 2.5sen in the last 100 minutes

Actually I agree with supermx2. And just like him, I have earned multiple rounds already. Every week have some profit. Quite easy money.

Can speak in a language where everyone in Malaysia can understand?

High rebar price not going to help LionInd?

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calvintaneng The most expensive 4 words in the English are

(((THIS TIME IS DIFFERENT)))

THE COMING COLLAPSE OF LONG STEEL STOCKS IS NO DIFFERENT FROM THE COLLAPSE OF PROPERTY STOCKS

See

http://klse.i3investor.com/blogs/www.eaglevisioninvest.com/96066.jsp

So high rebar price not helping LionInd?

mneo,

Is it wrong?

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mneo He did that before...refer to his past blog postings...

Is it wrong to admit your own mistake? I'm not saying that the correct thing do to


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mneo Do you see Warren Buffet go around telling people that he makes mistake by buying all those wrong stocks ? Do you go around telling people all those mistakes that you make? :-)

Apple168, you better do some homework. You making a fool of yourself

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apple168

Xinquan = Locked up confidently in prison

Then Sendai = Send Die in watery grave

Then Jaks = Jaks turns to "JAWS"

Now got Lion = Lion that like to taste human flesh...

Old man getting nyanyuk.. what a list of lousy track record from the old man..

apple168, you think KYY bought just these few counters you have quoted???

Not sure why so many here whack KYY and OTB? No matter what they so, they get whacked.

Please note that they have NO obligation to share their info with you and yet when they did, they get whacked.

If you disagree with them, just ignore their comment and move on. You can't expect them to be correct all the time, right?

To be honest, how many of us here have a better record than them?

For those yet to buy, Fri correction was a good one. Make sure you fast hand fast feet grab some on Monday, The ride gonna start soon

Building good momentum

If KYY disposing so much, who is so brave picking it up?

Folks, pls ignore khatulistiwa1234 comment. Just skip it, don't read it, pretend it is not there, don't respond to it, etc. When no one layan him, he will slowly shout up

zoozooka,

KYY have their own managers but they still outsource to 3rd party fund managers. It is the same for most sovereign funds too. Do you why? KYY does. And so does EPF and other sovereign funds



zoozooka Or kyy s ego isn't as big as he claimed it to be?

So he still relies OTB to make him some side income?

Beary,

KYY being successfully investing in stock long before (last century to be exact) OTB published his stock pick.

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Beary SecretOne, u r right.

Oldman picked LOSERS Mudajaya, Jayatiasa, Xingquan and now STUCKED in Jaks and Sendai

OTB picked VS, Latitude, Liihen, Flbd, Hengyuan....all multi baggers.

Different method indeed.....hahahahahaha.

OTB's pick, oldman buys

Oldman's pick, OTB refuses to buy.

Not even a single share (oldman said this himself)

Even with all expense paid holiday cum site visit cum cajoling trip to Vietnam, still refuses to buy.

They respect each other indeed.....hahahahahahha.


SecretOne Beary,

KYY and OTB uses different method to pick stock - it is as simple as that. OTB and KYY are friends and they respect each other.

Beary,

KYY and OTB uses different method to pick stock - it is as simple as that. OTB and KYY are friends and they respect each other.


Beary Oldman is no match for OTB lah when it comes to picking stock.

If OTB dares to offend oldman by refusing to buy even a single JAKS shares and risks loses in his business as oldman's remisier/fund manager, you can imagine what OTB thinks of JAKS loh...hahahahaha.

Zhuge_Liang,

OTB and most of us investor are not God, we do pick the wrong stock. In fact, I'm happy if my success rate is 50%. The key is to win big and lose small. That's how I make my money in the last 20+ years.

My 'win' on Hengyuan last year alone is enough to pay for all my loses since I started investing 20+ years ago.


Zhuge_Liang Posted by GG_Liang > Feb 9, 2018 09:43 AM | Report Abuse

As i said many times. Not saying otb is not good at stock picking. But he picked many stocks. When 1 of his picks went up a lot. He would appear on that particular page and claimed the credits . When his other picks went down. He just stayed quiet and acted as if he never recommended them. This is how the illusion of he rarely lost is created. Im just pointing out the truth. His blind followers would always attack me. Im not saying he's bad. But you guys need to see the clear picture.

traderman,

Care to explain? I would like to see your numbers.

traderman posted:
hy fully value lar

Fair enough. I guess the question is do we know what's the EPS for HY for 2018? Nestle being very consistent, we can 90% predict its EPS. Anyone dare to put its head out can predict HY EPS for 2018? If not, then you know why HY PE ratio is much much lower than Nestle.

And how can you say "the share price of Hengyuan does not actually reflect the true earning" when we don't even know the true earning of HY? Do you see the contradiction?


Zhuge_Liang posted:
I believe the earning of Hengyuan in 2018 can be good too. Of course it cannot be better than 2017.
I just want to say the share price of Hengyuan does not actually reflect the true earning.

Zhuge_Liang,

2017 is over. Gone. When you invest in share, you are investing in the future NOT the past. Can you tell me if HY can show explosive earning in 2018?

I'm not saying HY is overpriced. I'm saying your logic to value shares is totally wrong.

hoolahoo,

Shell sold HRC and lots of other refineries it bought BG. It is NOT exiting the business. If it is exiting why bother to buy BG?

Please do not give wrong information.

http://www.businessinsider.com/r-shell-to-exit-up-to-10-countries-after-bg-deal-2016-6/?IR=T

wolf168,

What up???

Annetan,

Shell was selling their assets everywhere in the world to raise capital. Shell was not interested to dump more money to upgrade the plant in Port Dickson. You have to understand what Shell as going through to understand their decision to sell

Posted by stncws > Jan 28, 2018 04:08 PM | Report Abuse

KYY only hold 6m shares after selling 14m shares , this was revealed in his latest posting


Guys, please learn to read properly. KYY and his family hold 20m shares. KYY holds 6m shares. He has yet to sell. If KYY holds all 20m shares, he would be a substantial shareholder.

Please learn to read properly before making a fool of yourself.

Have bought HRC before Q2 results and have been buying and holding since. So far, paper gain enough to send my kids to US University next time. If go to RM21 and beyond, can retire early and become my kids driver to send them to tuition class.

Thanks to all the sifus here, the life of my family have changed in 6 months time.

General Raider,

My armies reporting for duty. Will fight along side your army as we take advance to RM11

Until today, no one know why Shell sell so cheap.

https://www.thestar.com.my/business/business-news/2016/02/05/sc-and-bursa-malaysia-urged-to-look-into-sale-of-shell-refinery/

@Ricky Yeo said

So from my layman understanding is your evidence is explaining:

1. Shell with their wealth of knowledge, is happy to sell HY at $2 when there is a moat that is worth close to 20x of that value? What is the plausibility of that happening? Or did Shell think they can generate more value in another investments based on the cash they receive? (> 20x)
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Ricky Yeo, I'm sure you know what Royal Dutch Shell was going thru in 2016 since it acquire BG Group. Since then its debt ballooned and it faced the problem meeting its dividend payout.

Please read and do your homework before commenting/misleading others.

Here's some link for you to start with

https://www.thestar.com.my/business/business-news/2017/01/28/shell-set...
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-03-09/shell-agrees-to-sel...
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-11-14/woodside-falls-most...
https://www.barrons.com/articles/royal-dutch-shells-ballooning-debt-co...

Ricky Yeo said

So from my layman understanding is your evidence is explaining:

1. Shell with their wealth of knowledge, is happy to sell HY at $2 when there is a moat that is worth close to 20x of that value? What is the plausibility of that happening? Or did Shell think they can generate more value in another investments based on the cash they receive? (> 20x)
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Ricky Yeo, I'm sure you know what Royal Dutch Shell was going thru in 2016 since it acquire BG Group. Since then its debt ballooned and it faced the problem meeting its dividend payout.

Please read and do your homework before commenting/misleading others.

Here's some link for you to start with

https://www.thestar.com.my/business/business-news/2017/01/28/shell-set-to-sell-us$3b-north-sea-assets-to-chrysaor/
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-03-09/shell-agrees-to-sell-oil-sands-operations-for-7-25-billion
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-11-14/woodside-falls-most-in-a-year-after-shell-to-sell-entire-stake
https://www.barrons.com/articles/royal-dutch-shells-ballooning-debt-could-put-its-7-5-dividend-at-risk-1470840473

Once again, thank you to those who sell to me below RM10 yesterday. You have just made me richer.

Another good day for HY. Can't wait for market to re-open

3iii,

Why is it you spent so much time to proof that most of us here, especially Raider, is wrong? I don't get it? Is it an ego thing? Can you for once admit you are wrong?

And so what if you are right in theory, which is not even the case. But assuming you are right in theory, guess what, the market will decide the outcome.

Welcome to the real world

Luckily top up some below RM10 today. Thank you panic sellers for making me even richer. In 3 months time those panic sellers will regret their decision to sell today.

With EPS expected to be RM3, HY is now just trading at 3.3 PE. This is seriously cheap and undervalue stock. Easy money

Wow, didn't expect HY to drop below RM10. Good chance to buy more.

Here are the facts.

1. OTB recommended buy at RM5.95
2. Raider been saying HY is undervalue since it was RM3.00
3. 3iii has been recommending sell since RM3.60
4. As of today, HY is above RM10.00

Enough said...

Buy any profit making company share at below 2sen.

(For my own reference only. )

Strong support despite heavy selling. Looking very good and solid. Up seems to be the only direction that the price will go

I don't mind negative view if it is presented with facts but this 3iii being shouting negative news since I started coming to this forum back in Aug when price was 7.XX. Until now he is shouting like the world gonna end tomorrow.

3iii, please-lah. Tell us something new, if not please just keep quiet.

ks55_: You buy at RM 10 where got gain? Unless someone more foolish buy at higher price.

I bought at RM7 also no gain at that time, Now I'm up by 40%. Your FD gives you 40%? Maybe in 8 years time lah.

ks55_: ASB is better fund manager than EPF. No wonder their yearly 6-7% return regardless of market condition.

ks55, do you kno anything about investment? Do you know the different between EPF and ASB in their investment objectives?

Your statement above is like saying a Vios can go faster than a bus, hence bus is inferior.

Wow, OTB just mentioned HY will be better than PetDag in 5 years. That's like another 150% upside to go!!

So folks, please don't ask is it too late to buy. OTB sifu already give you the answer

Can someone ban 3iii from posting nonsense here? Or anywhere in 3i?

I started buying and reading this column when price was RM7. Until today, I still see people
1. Saying that HRC price will collapse
2. Asking, can still buy now ah?

Folks, this is still early days. Minimum still have 50% upside.

Next checkpoint for me is RM15

My above comment is to help those who
1. Wanted to buy but realized HY has gone up from RM2 to almost RM10
2. Sold everything previously and now not sure to buy or not