I'm only mainly taking care of my own interests, S123445. My god, your name is a mouthful.

If my effort at defending my own interests happen to be of benefit to others of similar tune and tone at the same time, then all well and good. I think it's something good that we look out for one another, and unite and ally together to achieve our common shared objectives.

Posted by s123445 > Sep 16, 2014 01:45 PM | Report Abuse

I have met the man himself believe in him and will stay invested in Sumatec. Stay invested or pick other shares no point hitting on Suma plans, its only going to be a roadblock for the naysayers but we Suma investers will be eventual winners.
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Just let them hv their fun. If wasting their time and their life is their idea of fun.

Well done.

Posted by s123445 > Sep 16, 2014 01:41 PM | Report Abuse

Small movements of up or down 1 ct does not make any different as you need to look at big picture.

If too scared go nibble other counters and leave Suma to us.
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You've put it all neatly and nicely in a little nutshell.

Posted by micky92 > Sep 16, 2014 01:32 PM | Report Abuse

Overall mkt sentiment is weak.waiting to buyn@0.40 with all available capital.low risk with high return...wonder if I can get the price.
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Really. How weak is that, one just wonders.

And if it suddenly spikes up again, just like in June, this time from 44 and ending at 78, there's your dream of buying at 40 gone. Gone all up in ashes.

You can. Just take up the RI offer. IF it is really exercised. And IF it is really offered at 40.

We have to curb and control all these Attention Seeking Syndrome (ASS) and Attention Requiring & Seeking Syndroome (ARSE) types.

Can't give them give them any quarter. They just come in spreading lies, slander and falsehood, which they disguise and present as the complete truth to the new and the less initiated.

Posted by KP8888KP > Sep 16, 2014 12:45 PM | Report Abuse

dreamhunter, just ignore that surewin none guy lah, all he know is tokok...why bother, A hole ll always be A hole, the more u reply, thr syiok he become...
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I've sent him on his bike, dude. He can't handle me, it's so obvious. Just can't cope with me.

Posted by s123445 > Sep 16, 2014 12:37 PM | Report Abuse

I fully support the efforts of true leader of Suma forum Dreamhunter. You will be Dreamconquerer as you have what it takes.
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Thanks a million, dude. Your prayers will go a long way toward helping me capture and conquer my dream. I would be more than happy with 1 mil from Suma. But if HS is willing to give me more, that would be even better.

Posted by DreamHunter > Sep 16, 2014 12:13 PM | Report Abuse X

As long as I hold tite and don't sell out, it's all only paper losses.
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Clarification:

I was speaking only in general terms, Mr. HopeWinSureLoseOne. For me, personally, it's not even paper losses yet. Coz I started with 200k when playing with Suma, and now I still hv 1,010 big lots of WB at abou 31 sen, so still paper profits of over 100k. But it was over 350k a months ago, when WB was doing 55 sen.

Posted by surewinone > Sep 16, 2014 12:19 PM | Report Abuse

Aik saya tidur betui syok - you tak siksa ka lama tak tidur.
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Ai, gua tough guy, lu lagi belum tau ka. Commando-grade punya quality. Tiga hari tiga malam tak tido pun tak da pa pa punya.

Lu mana tau. Kokak lauya punya thamby dei juga.

Posted by surewinone > Sep 16, 2014 12:22 PM | Report Abuse

Malas nak layan you ! Nano! nano!
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Ha, dah habis modal la tu. Tak boleh nak klentong BS lagi. Real experience sikit habuk pun tadak. Loyar buruk ja manjang-manjang. Po daaaahhhhh.

So, thamby dei, at least I hv something to brag about. And what about you, do you have any significant experience to tell to anyone? Other than spreading your worthless BS left, right and centre; and here, there and everywhere.

Thamby dei, it's not about buying or selling with perfect timing. For a long term investor, the key words are 'stamina' and 'holding power'. Mccam kau ni, budak mentah umur setahun jagung, apa la yg kau tau sangat pasal ini hal.

Kau cakap la apa kau nak cakap, thamby dei. Tak jadi apa hal sikit habuk pun kat orang tu.

Really. You know, I don't really mind putting in a bit of effort when it can give something real and substantial. No. More that substantial. Obscene lucrative would be better. Like 350k profit from 200k capital in 10 months. Even 100k profit from Friday to the Monday following. But you were never around to share my success tales that time.

You were messing about, dikking about, arsing about, in some other stupid forum then.

The current down season is only a temporary setback. For me and for other die-hard Suma loyalists and supporters. No bankruptcies or such like, even if 50,000 dudes the likes of you go to your temple or shrine to pray for it to happen.

As long as I hold tite and don't sell out, it's all only paper losses. So, no big deal. 62 will come again for Mother, and 56 for WB, no sweat. It's just a matter of time. And a matter of tungguuuuuu.

And you know, the strawberry plant is almost like a keledek crawler. While the grape vine is not much different from pokok labu.

What big sharks. You still scared of big sharks ah. You just wait till our baby GODZILLA wakes up from slumber. Then baby GODZILLA will gobble them all up. Whether sharks, or crocs, or bears, or whatever.

In that case better take your money and dump it all into FD then, YK. LOL

Posted by Yk John > Sep 16, 2014 11:38 AM | Report Abuse

So Calvin

U agree dreamhunter or surewinone ???
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So, YK. Which side are you on now. Be honest and transparent. Is it SureWinOne's, or DreamHunter's. Or maybe it's just the fence in between. LOL

That's what I find, well, funny about some Malaysians. Not funny ha ha, but more like funny strange.

Everything the white man eats is cool. Boiled potato la, fried potato la, roast potato la, everything is cool.

But give them boiled banana, or boiled ubi kayu, or boiled ubi keledek, and they recoil from it like it's some mutant or repulsive jungle food. Well then there ya go.

Posted by calvintaneng > Sep 16, 2014 11:31 AM | Report Abuse

Yes, In the beginning Calvin think Dream Hunter was correct on the way up.
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Come on la. Stop the BS la, kawan. You never said anything else, except that Suma was going down soon.

Now I will do the same to you. I'll just keep saying that Suma is going up soon. And one day, eventually, it will.

But whatever you and your likes say, for Suma, upside will always be much vaster than downside. For a long, long while to come. Why? Simply becoz it's still a newly turning around company.

I guess that part of it has escaped your highly scholarly attention, somehow.

Tak mau layan dia la, itu thamby. Lagi dilayan, lagi dia tambah mehgada-ngada kagi.

Tu la, klu di US, orang panggil Attention Seeking Syndrome (ASS).

While in UK, where the folks are, well, folksier, and earthier too, they call it Attention Requiring and Seeking Syndrome (ARSE).

Posted by surewinone > Sep 16, 2014 11:17 AM | Report Abuse

I have been right 2 weeks. This will make it 3 weeks.
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It's down slide time. A lot of doom & gloom specialists would be right every now and again in this kind of season. It's no big deal.

You were never around during Suma's boom time 2 months ago. I was right six weeks in a row. On many days accurate to the exact figure, I was.

So?

The Mexicans even make an alcoholic liquor out of some kind of chilli fruit, I've read before. Or was it pepper. Must pack some hard punch. Or hot punch.

While some unfamiliar westerners wonder why we like to put chilli into/onto practically everything we eat. They especially find it bizarre that we put chilli over some fruit. Some even speculate that we might even put chilli in our coffee.

Anak Malaysia moden ni, klu cam ni. Pisang rebus pun tak pernah makan. LOL

Masa Suma peaking around 56 - 62 dulu, tak pernah nampak muka dia pun. Bila dah slide ke bawah, tiba-tiba aja muncul dengan 50+ klon dia yg bermacam-macam nama.

Lagi mau cakap lebih lagi, itu thamby. Betul la kau punya cakap, AMBZ. Cari info + baca info tak pandai, abis nak query sama orang tak tentu pasal sana sini.

Yes, you ain't tried it before? It's a occasional staple breakfast food for some kampung folks in my time.

Boiled was easier to do than roast, with the conditions of the time.

So where was your school then, Conn. Lemme guess. Somewhere in the south perhaps. Where in summer the sea is cool, coz it's near the Antartic, while the air is burning hot, due to the dry northern winds from the desert in the centre. Adelaide?

Why cannot. Confident also cannot ah. Then how. Be un-confident better ah.

Boiled banana is cool. Good old traditional kampung snack. Roast is even better.

Waaah, Conn. Sekarang baru gua tau. Gi sekolah kat Oz rupanya.

Really. I also orphan. That makes it two of us.

Ai, WomanX cam dah feeling lonely aja ...

Ogre, boleh kasi itu link sama gua geh.

Maksud aku tak mau peduli itu thamby, AMBZ.

'Best kept secret'? Eh, cam tu geliga juga la kepala otak aku ni, kan? Tak da siapa cakap pun, aku dapat ilham sendiri. Jangan main wor.

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Who's fighting. I'm just ogling some cute, hot specimens of womanhood now, while gorging on come cold jagung bakar. Extremely talented ethnic dancers, all of them.

On 2nd thoughts, I'm back. Just becoz ... 75 sounds like a nice figure to my ears. A nice, sweet, gorgeous figure.

Just like that of Christina Grebenshchikova, Katerina Shereen, Cassandra Fox, Darya, Mahaila el Helwa, Zara, or Anusch Alawerdian.

Hey, I was supposed to stop by for just a few minutes. Okay, I'm gone.

Well, like the man said, there's more than one way to skin a cat (pity that cat). There ya go.

727,272,727 shares? That sounds like about the same number of shares currently owned by HS. Okay, he's a veteran accountant and corporate high bfinance dude, so he must know what he's doing.

Hmmmm, but I still think my alternative magic maths could somehow work.
:-I

Posted by woman_x > Sep 16, 2014 09:40 AM | Report Abuse

DH, HS is buying back the vendors' shares at 0.55..
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Really? But then I don't see the maths, as in the logic, in that. In that case, he might as well pay equivalent net value in cash straightaway to the vendors. Rather than paying by shares, and then buying back the shares.

You see, the main attraction in a RI is that one gets money for free from the market.

But the downside is the price dilution post-RI.

And, on top of that, if Suma pays half the cost of BE (i.e. US$125 mil) with shares to the vendors of BE, that means the vendors of BE ends up owning US$125 mil worth of Suma shares, thereby making them a new susbstantial shareholder of Suma, which might, OR might not, be in the interest of HS himself as the numero uno shareholder.

Posted by Yk John > Sep 16, 2014 09:20 AM | Report Abuse

Dreamhunter

I think he not stupid one

All business man focus profit....

Any benefit to him if
Cancel RI ??
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Haaiyyraaa, YK. I already explained in my earlier post above ma. Your read it yourself lor. I won't make a proposal if there is no benefit in it leh.

Tell you what. I might give Suma's office a call on Wednesday, and persuade them to at least consider this alternative no-RI plan. Whether they eventually take it up or not is anyone's guess. But there's no harm trying, is there?

I've spoken to their CFO or COO on the phone before, briefly, asking whether they made a profit or not for Q1, 2014, just a day before the report was released. Honestly, I did. It's no big deal. And they're quite friendly and cool too. The dude just asked me to be patient and to wait one more day for the report to come out.

After all, we long term Suma investors are all Suma shareholders, aren't we? So, by right, Suma management should, at least, give our arguments some serious consideration.

For the good of Suma. And for the good of all of us.

YK, why don't we all start lobbying HS to cancel it. Starting ... Today!