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2017-02-13 22:13 | Report Abuse

The company men may be play dirty games by letting down the share price and buy it later in a big volume.

I just noticed this when compare Hubline and Hubline-WB trading volume. Last Friday Hubline-WB volume is higher than Hubline but today its vice-versa. They company men could purposely set it up to make big profit later. Let it fown first, buy it with a big volume and push up the price later.

Let us think a while for those people that bought at the price about 1 cent along with Billion Power Sdn Bhd. They sure suffered a lot and Billion Power Sdn Bhd as well.

If think about Billion Power that suffered too .... I think this drop is a short while and the price could rise more than 25 cents in the coming days.

The company men may be playing dirty games like always. Can"t wsit what happen on 15th Feb. Hopefully it GOES UP!

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2017-02-10 21:40 | Report Abuse

Good point setia2u. Totally agreed Hubline share price after share consolidation is going up and that's happened or experienced on Stepro.

Thanks for sharing. That means I'm on the right track. Hehe..

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2017-02-10 17:34 | Report Abuse

Alhamdullilah Hubline at last closed at 1 cent and Hubline-WB at half cent. On 15 Feb 2017 Wednesday, Hubline would be open with 20 cents and Hubline-WB with 10 cents.

The risk is on Hubline share and I would only possible make profit from Hubline-WB if price goes up more than 10 cents. Good luck for those bought Hubline-WB today.

Anyway, I admit this Hubline is a lousy counter with lousy Directors. Next QR is on 6 March 2017. Today trading shows obviously that the Directors are not interested to push share to go higher and purposely let the share price closed at 1 cent.

It is really really obvious the Directors are interested only on eating people's money as mentioned by Mala. So, Atarah, Rusy and other guys the way I look on the long run this Hubline Management would twist and twist again in the coming QR. To be safe, do not trusted anymore on this counter. The share price could goes up for a while and they would play dirty game again and again.

Hopefully on the 15th Feb 2017 Hubline share goes higher than 20 cents and Hubline-WB more than 10 cents. That's the way I'm making profit from it and good luck for those on the same boat with me. If happening on 15th Feb 2017, I would sell all the shares and bye bye to Hubline. Another 5 days from now.

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2017-02-10 16:09 | Report Abuse

About 50 minutes left....

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2017-02-10 16:08 | Report Abuse

To goodluck999

To find-out more, please click this http://finance.zacks.com/handle-reverse-stock-split-10778.html

Make it short, here is what it said "
If your stock is listed on an exchange, a reverse split could herald a potential delisting. If the stock remains below the exchange’s minimum price, the company’s stock is delisted and relegated to the over-the-counter market or the pink sheets. The reverse split may boost the stock’s price for a while, but if sales have stalled or the company posts consecutive losses, the stock price will continue falling. Left unchecked, the stock will eventually be delisted off the exchange."

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2017-02-10 15:48 | Report Abuse

Hubline-WB has hit 1 cent and hope it closed at 1 cent.

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2017-02-10 15:45 | Report Abuse

For those who want to try your luck, better buy Hubline-WB at the price of 0.005 cent now. Anyway, decision is on your hand.

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2017-02-10 15:20 | Report Abuse

About another 1 Hr and 40 minutes left, good luck everyone.....

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2017-02-10 15:19 | Report Abuse

May 2016 last year I not only bought Hubline at the price of 1 cent but did bought Hubline-WB at the price of 0.005 cent. Plan A is on Hubline share whereas Plan B is on Hubline-WB share.

The way I look at current situation people that bought Hubline-WB can actually make profit if the price closed at least at 0.005 cent. If closed at the price of 1 cent really really much better and could be more than double on the opening date15th Feb 2017. That is why the buyer trading volume is high on Hubline-B share. The main reason is because after share consolidation, the share price is at least 10 cent and if less than 10 cent then Hubline could be Delisted from Bursa. That's Main Exchange (Bursa) Rule.

For Hubline share, it most probably closed at 0.005 cent or 1 cent. If closed 0.01 cent then the risk is still there.

Compare between Hubline and Hubline-WB, people that bought Hubline-WB is actually can make profit because if today closed price at 0.005 cent will ensure the share price after share consolidation is at least 10 cent and could it hit 13 cents or more.

Anyway, I would only possible make profit through Hubline-WB not Hubline share...

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2017-01-27 18:40 | Report Abuse

Happy CNY to all chinese members.. May this year bring luck to all of us.

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2017-01-19 18:00 | Report Abuse

Just come back from solat and never expected today many people chatting. I also missed to watch this Hubline and suddenly became the most active counter for today.

Not so worry if suddenly a lot selling today and towards end of trading suddenly there is supporting people that push back the price to 1 cent.

Don't want to make any speculation... just relax and what make me not so worry is because there are top 30 shareholders such as KENANGA, RHB, TH and others institution that holds HUBLINE. These 30 top shareholders all together is about 47% of total Hubline share. This is not including Hubline-WA & Hubline-WB. This figure can be found in ANNUAL REPORT 2015 dated somewhere in Feb 2016 last year.

Just to share will u all.... If the share is at the current price of 1 cent, do u think all these BIG INSTITUTIONS ALLOW THEMSELVES TO BE LOSS. No way!!!

THESE BIG BIG INSTITUTIONS ACTUALLY just wait the right time to boost the share price. They are waiting the mechanism for them to buy share and boost the price. The nearest point is the oil price. Higher oil price contribute higher Freight Rates.

Another thing is Hubline is facing the most difficult time now and if this coming QR is still negative profit then they could be penalised by Bursa to listed as PN17 counter.

No way for Hubline anymore.... the only way now is they need to turnaround the QR from negative to positive profit. That's what they are trying to do and I believe they are on the right track. With oil price is now recover.... then they will survive.

BY THE WAY....... Freight Rates for Hubline is nearly double now compare to Freight Rates on Jan 2016 last year. How I got it ... is not important.

So, Hubline will survive!!! GUYS..

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2017-01-09 17:02 | Report Abuse

Too early to reveal. Let's Hubline share goes up first. Do one thing at a time ..... Okay.

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2017-01-09 14:08 | Report Abuse

Ok. Forget the past and let's moving forward.

By the way Tq Atarah for your remark.

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2017-01-09 10:21 | Report Abuse

Beul le bro khairua. Hahaha

Bior Den Cakap nyorrr, Hujahnya mudah jerrr...... "When oil price goes high, the bunker oil price goes high as well hence resulting high Freight Rates in Calculation.

So, for shipping companies to make revenue / profit what they do is lower the ship vessel speed to save fuel. Another trick they do it in reality LOWER PRICE BUNKER OIL BUT IT FREIGHT RATES CALCULATION THEY BUY HIGHER BUNKER OIL.

I have read several articles about it and that is the facts. That is not my theory and make-up by myself. U can search and analyst yourself.

By the way, in Hubline report it stated clearly Hubline Shipping Vessel (Tugs & Barges) is a Voyage Shipping and below is the defination.

"A voyage charter is the hiring of a vessel and crew for a voyage between a load port and a discharge port. The charterer pays the vessel owner on a per-ton or lump-sum basis. The owner pays the port costs (excluding stevedoring), fuel costs and crew costs. The payment for the use of the vessel is known as freight."



To find-ot more -> Read this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chartering_(shipping)
http://www.advancedontrade.com/2015/06/what-are-differences-between-voyage-and-time-charter-parties.html


In Voyage vessel, shipowner like Hubline pay all the costs but the the charterer pays the vessel owner on a per-ton or lump-sum basis.

Briefly, at last the charterer will need to pay the Freight Rates in Time Charter Equivalent which Shipowner will determined for it such as USD 10,000, USD15000 per daily for 8000 / 10000 Dwt for a certain number of days. There will be a mutual a agreement between Shipowner and Charterer.


So, the trick IN VOYAGE VESSEL LIKE HUBLINE, in reality operation the ship vessel is in a slow speed and use cheaper bunker price. IN VOYAGE VESSEL IT IS CLEARLY THAT THE SHIPOWNER WILL BUY THE BUNKER OIL NOT THE CHARTERER. Whereas in Freight Rates Calculation, the shipowner will choose the most highest Bunker price to boost the Freight Rates. That is the way the company making money.

As a conclusion, we are lucky because Hubline shipping business is by using Voyage Freight Rates compare to Daily Hike Freight Rates. There is a difference between these two. In Voyage Freight Rates Charterer needs to pay in USD per Meter Tonne whereas in Daily Hike Freight Rates the Charterer rent the ship vessel from Shipowner and pay all the cost.

Moving forward, Let's focus the oil prices and hope it goes higher and higher.

So Khairua, da jelas yer..... berbuih mulut den bercakap ini.

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2017-01-06 23:45 | Report Abuse

Just to share.

http://www.3plwire.com/2011/12/29/understanding-bunker-fuel-is-there-a-relationship-to-crude-prices/

Take Port Klang Bunker Prices As A reference, Currently Bunker Prices Goes up gradually.
http://shipandbunker.com/prices/apac/sea/my-pkl-port-klang


After analyst, I would say or predict it is meaningful / good news for Hubline if Nymex Oil Price hit USD 64 per barrel or Brent Oil Price hit USD 67 per barrel.

Maybe or just maybe Nymex oil price at the price USD50 per barrel or Brent oil price at the price of USD53 per barrel is the break point for the company to generate profit. This is just assumption.

This assumption is based after analyzing on 1 year Bunker cost from Jan 2016 - Dec 2016. I have also compare the oil price from Jan 2016 - Dec 2016. Last year Hubline making loss millions of Ringgit. But after analyzing looking the graph from Nov 2016 till now by looking increasing oil price and bunker price rate then It is obvious that Hubline is now progressing positively and Hubline share should move up if Nymex hit USD 64 per barrel or Brent USD 67 barrel.

Current oil price is just a relief for company to avoid losses again or a sign of making profit. Nymex Oil price at USD64 per barrel and Brent oil price at USD 67 is for Hubline to make Millions Ringgit of profit whereas Oil price at USD 70 per barrel is consider a bonus whichever hit first either Nymex or Brent.

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2017-01-03 17:52 | Report Abuse

Rozy. Tujuan Share Consolidation tu adalah peluang yg diberikan oleh Bursa kpd Syarikat Hubline utk meningkatkan harga saham dan ianya memberi masa kpd Hubline dari kena PN17. PN17 tu boleh berlaku tetapi bukan dalam masa yg terdekat ini. Share consolidation itu adalah ibarat peluang terakhir sebelum kena PN17. Buat masa ini jgn risau sgt ttg PN17 tu. Belum masanya lagi.

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2017-01-03 09:59 | Report Abuse

Rusy. Crude oil Nymex dan Brent naik pagi ni. Nymex USD 54 dan Brent USD 57 per barrel sekarang ni. Bagi masa sikit.... harga minyak akan naik lagi. Let's see one at time. Mula2 harga minyak naik lepas tu market akan response kat saham Hubline. Awak harus sabor!

Fundamental for Hubline share to rise is strong. USD currency and rising Freight Rate due to higher oil price.

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2017-01-02 16:41 | Report Abuse

Goldentriangle, currently I'm not concern too much on share consolidation listing date because the way I see it now Hubline share price could be going higher earlier than expected. The listing date is now becoming 2nd priority whereas focusing on higher oil price is the first priority.

Let's focus oil price in this week.

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2017-01-01 21:51 | Report Abuse

Ok Angielim9955 since YOO are interested to know, please read the below link.

http://www.marineinsight.com/maritime-law/8-main-factors-that-affect-ocean-freight-rates/
(Read item no 7. Bunker capacity. It tells how oil prices play the role for bunker cost).


Another thing below is an AN EXAMPLE HOW SHIPPING FREIGHT RATE IS CALCULTED.
http://voyage-estimator.blogspot.my/2009/09/long-hand-voyage-calculation-example.html
(Study and look carefully on step 2)

From there u will noticed any increase of OIL PRICES WILL DEFINITELY INCREASE BUNKER COST AND HENCE RESULTING INCREASE OF FREIGHT RATES.

Any increases of Freight Rates then will increase the company revenues as well. It is a fact that most shipping companies around the round are making loss MILLIONS OF RINGGIT / DOLLAR for the past 2 years....... it is because of low oil prices that cause to lower Freight Rates at last. To find-out further, U can find the chart as indicated in this link http://www.investing.com/commodities/crude-oil

Go and study that chart for the past 2 years. BDI is also one of a factor that influence the Freight Rates and I have no doubt about it. But the near the corner, factor that most boost HUBLINE SHARE PRICE at this moment is the OIL PRICE.

I hope others can benefit this info as well and hopefully the Oil Prices goes up and cross-over USD 60 per barrel and move north to USD70 per barrel. The faster the better.


May be the Hubline share prices could go higher before the upcoming ex-date share consolidation.

Gud Luck Angielim9955 and others. Bye2.....

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2017-01-01 19:09 | Report Abuse

Rusy. Dari bulan Mei 2016. Beli dgn harga 1 sen open market. InsyaALLAH saham ni naik tahun ni. Kalau harga minyak naik mulai 1 Jan 2017 ada harapan saham ni naik.

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2016-12-29 19:26 | Report Abuse

To be more clear, Freight Rates around the world is in USD Currency and for Hubline the Freight Rates is in USD per Tonne. Any increment of Freight Rates will boost the Hubline revenue. Once convert USD to RM, the figure would turn into Million based on the basic calculation mentioned above.

Increment by RM1 Freight Rates is for an example as the most minimum extra revenue generated. In reality it is more than that.

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2016-12-29 18:13 | Report Abuse

Calvin, your facts is right. The share price of KNM rose before the ex-date and rose after the share consolidation.

What I wrote 8 - 9 times is based on the price before the ex-date which is at that time about 4x cents and after the ex-date the price is about RM3.xx. In math it is about 8- 9 times up.

Anyway, just ignore whatever confusing and moving forward let's focus on ghis Hubline. In KNM case, the price rose before and after the ex-date. It can be happenned as well in Hubline. Rise of 2 - 3 cent before the ex-date is good enough.

Just to share with u as well, all SHIPPING COMPANIES SUFFERED last time was due to to FREIGHT RATES WENT DOWN in line with OIL PRICE WENT DOWN. No doubt BDI is one of the factor that influence the freight rates but IN THE COMING DAYS ESPECIALLY early of JAN 2017 if the oil price goes up to USD70 per barrel then the freight rates goes up as well. High Oil price increase BUNKER COST and the more higher BUNKER COST is the more higher Freight Rates is. This is fact.

I have done analyst and found out any increment JUST RM1 per tonne in freight rate HUBLINE revenue increase about RM2 million. Simple math as follows:

Increment of RM1 per tonne x 23 ( Tugs/ Barge) x 8000 - 10000 tonne capacity x No of Tug/ Barge Trip.

Currently total Tugs/Barges yhat Hubline has is 23 and let's take no of Tug/ Barge trip is 10 in a Quarter (3 months) and the capacity stated in Hubline report which each tug/ barge carries 8000 - 10000 tonne then:

RM1 per tonne × 23 x 8000-10000 tonne x 10 = RM1.84m - RM2.3m.

That is just only RM1 freight rate per tonne increment. How about 1 USD or 10 USD increment freight per tonne. The figure is marvellous.


For simplified, based on my analyst Hubline for the past 3 months has generated EXTRA revenue due to rising FREIGHT RATE and Strong USD Currency taking into account no more issue on Container Business. The EXTRA revenue generated is based on the above calculation.


Please take note it is the BASIS of EXTRA REVENUE GENERATED and not accurate figure. The most important is HUBLINE is now making EXTRA REVENUE...


Following with that any incoming rising Oil price up to 70 USD per barrel would increase Freight Rate per tonne and it could happen early of next year and HUBLINE share price could rise back. Up to 2 - 3 cent is good enough and really good if the price goes up earlier before the ex-date of Share Consolidation.

Last but not least all Shipping Companies are now focus on Oil price and hopes it goes up!.

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2016-12-24 22:08 | Report Abuse

All the years it is noted that Hubline Top Management is bad managing hence cause lost of integrity by investors. Infact currently most investors lost their confidence.

However, last few months the STRONG USD currency against RM and slow pick-up of FREIGHT RATE have lead extra revenue in most Shipping Companies around the world including HUBLINE.

If the Top Management commit the issue of Exitting Container Business is over by the year 2016, then I foresee the company will gain positive in next QRs. The 2 factors mentioned cannot be denied. It is a fact...... but it is all depend to the BAD GUYS IN THE TOP MANAGEMENT.

Let's now hope THE positive QRs come-out first before completion of share consolidation. Positive QR drives the share price goes up just before of the ex-date. Share price up to 2 - 3 cents before ex-date is just enough...

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2016-12-16 14:44 | Report Abuse

Amedia, KNM & Hubline .... each of them are in different business segment but they share a common problem which is VERY VERY BAD FINANCIAL QR.

If company like AMEDIA & KNM share price went up after share consolidation then HUBLINE won't be excluded.

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2016-12-16 11:18 | Report Abuse

Anyone interested can do research on AMEDIA & KNM SHARE Consolidation.

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2016-12-16 10:51 | Report Abuse

Yup. It is a good news. In theory the purpose of capital restructuring is for the company to push the price goes up. Company like Amedia & KNM had gone thru this type of Exercise.

Amedia & KNM share price had gone up from 2 cent to 18 cent and 4x cent to RM3.XX respectively after share consolidation successfully completed.

Briefly, Hubline share price should go up as well. However, it would take place or share consolidatiom would only take place 5 months from now. I assume it would be on May 2017.

My analyst is on Amedia share after analyst on the company announcement record. So, be patience !

How much the price goes up I won't know but in KNM case it went up by 8 - 9 times whereby in Amedia share it went up by 8 times.

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2016-12-08 20:57 | Report Abuse

Just be patience! Despite with BAD MANAGEMENT who knows after capital restructuring market share price goes up. If you all surf in the internet Par Value reduction from 1 cent to 0.5 cent does not have any relation with actual market price. That is what I found-out. So, just wait for next QR. HOW LONG SOME MORE CAN THE BAD MANAGEMENT PLAYING AROUND BY KEEPING SHARE PRICE GOING DOWN.... IT WON'T BE FOREVER .... WHAT'S GOING DOWN SOON OR LATER IT WOULD GOES UP.

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2016-07-20 19:19 | Report Abuse

Do not response immediately. Found out the news first.

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2016-07-20 19:12 | Report Abuse

Lost In Bursa, Don't react emotionally.

I suggest you read KNM past experienced first on PAR VALUE REDUCTION & SHARE CONSOLIDATION. You can surf thru google and the date is somewhere 24 Jan 2014 & year 2010. KNM reduce it borrowing by issuing PAR VALUE REDUCTION.

Another share is KINSTELL, go and found out about PAR VALUE REDUCTION.

From there u will learnt something and moving forward is up to you. Fyi, KNM share price rose twice after share consolidation completed. You can check the news somewhere Feb 2014.

Good luck!

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2016-07-17 12:00 | Report Abuse

No need to focus anymore on BDI INDEX.

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2016-07-17 11:57 | Report Abuse

Hubline main business is Break Bulk not Dry Bulk. Break Bulk is nothing to do with BDI index. Unlike dry bulk, its depend on BDI index for Freight Rate. Briefly, HUBLINE is on the right direction.

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2016-07-12 09:09 | Report Abuse

Agreed as well

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2016-06-12 23:48 | Report Abuse

Yuppp. That's it.

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2019-01-11 11:15 | Report Abuse

9278. Cooking is not starting yet. It is just a making activity so that at least there is a figure in trading. Other wise ZERO volume. U can see the pattern during the buying time and selling time.

Another way of looking is at the volume q selling at 1 cent. Its doesn't reduce. The figure maintain stagnant.

Cooking time is now depend on him/ her. Deciding power is with them.

Currently be cooled and COOKING WILL COME LATER.

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2016-06-10 19:17 | Report Abuse

It is one of the major shareholder out of 30 top shareholder listing or mentioned in Annual Report 2015. Who else!!

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2016-06-10 19:13 | Report Abuse

What I noticed in past few days and today activity there is no genuine buyer and seller actually. I guess it is the major shareholder who play the game. Nobody else.

The major shareholder Q sell at 1 cent. 1.5 cent, 2 cent, Q buy at 0.005 cent, buy little bit at 1 cent and sold at 0.005 cent in last few days as well include today.

Who else got many share and dare to sell at 0.005 cent. This is a make up activity.

The Q sell doesn't reduce down whenever the share was bought. That is why I know. Very obvious. Hmmmmmmmm!!!!!

The game is very simple......... Try to get as much share lots at 0.005 cent and GORENGGGGGGG it later.

Overall, there are good & bad things. It would be gorengggggggg later in next 2 - 3 QRs. NOW, JUST WAIT THE DAY!

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2016-01-11 11:02 | Report Abuse

HUBLINE is currently should not be 1 cent anymore. No no no......... Worst thing has over.

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2016-06-06 11:05 | Report Abuse

What I meant is 3 consequetive QR profit generated, do you all think worst has not over?

Come-on......

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2016-06-06 11:02 | Report Abuse

Things will change to much much better when worst is over.

Come-on you guys HUBLINE has dropped more than 5 years. Do you all think with 1 cent price currently with 3 consequetive profit reported the worst has over.

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2016-06-03 11:19 | Report Abuse

Be cooled! Agreed with George99. You got the point. I understand what u meant.

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2016-05-29 12:37 | Report Abuse

The core business for Hubline now is on dry bulk shipping and no more in big container shipping. Due to low rate that cause very huge losses last year and few years before that is why they exit from Big Container Shipping business.

Revenue in Dry bulk shipping business grows from 1Q to another Q and has proven contributed profit to the company. Is Dry Bulk Business affected with the low rate, I'm not sure but Big Container Vessel shipping business and Dry Bulk Shipping business definately is 2 different types of business model. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Anyway, what I believed is Mr Richard & his company men just want to see market response FIRST on last Friday trading. There is no company, subsidiaries & cronies action at all to push the price up. Goes as well to Billion company that currently has acquired about 10%-12% company share recently. They didn't buy any.

Would they intervene next week I'm not sure buy it could especially for BILLION Company. They could buy from open market and push the price up.

Billion Company has acquired 10%-12% of company share which is about 1B-1.2B of share.That is only a maximumabout RM12 Million at the price of 1 cent. They can easily earn double or tripple it by investing another RM 10 Million. Not only that they can as well be the major shareholder in the company.

The figure I put is approximately but not accurate. Anyway, it is reference for us to think about it. Whatever it is I believed something positive news would come in and I personnally waiting news such as Share Buyback, press conference and Billion Company acquiring more company shares by another 5%-10%. If one of this happened in the coming ........ it would be definately push up the price.

Sorry I just put Billion Company because lazy to check the accurate Company Name. Hehe.

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2016-05-28 09:56 | Report Abuse

Agreed. At least 2 but 3 is more better. BTW, cheap1 suggestion is good. Who is going to take the lead? I guess ATARAH kut...Hehe

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2016-05-27 21:45 | Report Abuse

One way to bring back investors confident is thru Company Buyback. Would it happened next week or would company look on this possibilty and put in the agenda in coming AGM meeting.

Whatever it is I can see the prospect in next QR is good and grows driven by dry bulk shipping business. It is now depend on MR RICHARD & Company men stands. What are they going to do to bring back the investors confident??

Any press conference and share buyback news would definately boost the investors confidents. Hence, big confidence fund manager to join in.

Patience is the key factor now and I would wait for 9 months which consists of next 3QRs. I believed on this share and luck buying on 0.005 cents and 1 cents price would happen later. Any share sold at 1.5 cents is good enough for me. Hehe..

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2016-05-27 09:25 | Report Abuse

Yeap...At early stage trading is not really impressive. Anyway give it more time.

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2016-05-27 08:54 | Report Abuse

Let's see what is the open share price and what is the price at 9.30am? If touch 1.5 cent then the turnaround has begin. Hu huuuuuuu

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2016-05-26 18:41 | Report Abuse

Super modern buildup ship. On surface look like a ship.... underwater submarine under it. Hehe!!

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2016-05-26 18:34 | Report Abuse

Quarter result has been released. Company makes profit and progressing.

Tomorrow maybe the turnaround time begins. Hahaha

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2016-05-26 12:10 | Report Abuse

Last week start bought and now this morning.