money really not easy earn, experience not enough. now buying experience.

ya, i understood. thanks yours.

flood is one thing, but the related person also sell share really make people scare (may be he want sold high buy low or he run first because know something happen?). I will hold n see first. not dare to simply buy loh after warned by u.

ya right. I agree. some 2.2 i bought is really a mistake. Because i believe privatisation can go through. Now accident come, no point lah. instead of throw now, i will wait final news come out. already loss half mah... i ready to loss another half. haha...

haha, the keypoint is how much i buy and when i buy. dont worry, really not buy as much as u thing. i just buy a hope only, like people buy 4D.

correct, proved u a yearly experience person.

Richard, u always give us your feeling: now the situation very teruk, even survive may hard also. So your answer is yes/no? how much u can estimate the price can drop within 1,2,3 months...? Based on your yearly experiences, I really willing to heard it.

i think richard almost 90% feel that the price can drop to < 1 and may not recover even few years. May be he have confirmed news behind? But my viewpoint (personal only) is: i'm buy small portion on price between 1.5 - 2.2. if i want to cut loss, i will cut loss 10-20% (read book also got teach mah). But I choose hold. I would not suggest anyone follow me, but i may suggest who really dont have confirmed news yet, may choose buy on attractive price but set a cut loss target like 10%-20%. Just my personal viewpoint.

for my answer is yes. But i wish this question is open for anyone who has interest and different viewpoint to answer it.

? i said young means i young in stock market lah, Bro. i know u are good guy, thanks for advice. Hmm.. better we focus back the stock lah. i think this forum should not be you and me only. u also no need said my name always. Because i remember what is your advice behind. we waste a lot of space here lah.

no need ask me, i repeat: when and how much i avg, i would not tell. Because i just want to responsible for myself only.

correct! I never said u wrong. But doesnt that means i wont not try the no queue stall? Bro, i really appreciate your feedback lah. What u said never wrong. so the rest should follow u. i am just ikan billis.

yaloh people sell in millions, but i just collect 100-200... of course price drop so much. reason/emotional? Let time decide lah.

hmm... really got a lot good stuff still undervalued... why people still like this stock? Haha... all believe bigger gain is come from bigger risk.

ya richard thanks for your advice. for all of yours, richard advice is right, Risky counter, dont simply play. If u really not ready for it.

cheap stuff is usually not good stuff, i believe... but it's cheap is due to human emotional, or company really "hmmdim"... then see lah.

ya thanks your advice. But i believe myself is good in finance management (at least my own money lah) so should not be huge debt guah.... :)

yaloh, i'm not expert like u. The only way is long term loh, buy those people throw one.

richard, i guess u will said my name again (not wrong my guess). No matter your message is really good,bad,challenging... somebody may really make misunderstanding. I said one more time, buy or not buy really depend on your own situation. If u buy stock just follow the news, or somebody said, one day, u will kena teruk teruk.

dont feel sad because you miss chance. You should feel happy because u ready your bullet for next coming chance.

we respect stock, we respect people... crisis make me see the value, not dreaming anymore. I am young but luckily i see all this debt crisis, Natural disasters how to make stock down. Scare? No. Why? I more appreciate because make me see the real thing. Ready your bullet for next coming crisis... debt loan pass? privatisation pass? haha...

haha... I super fans mah...

40% so less meh? Please dont simply speak out other stock name, whether is gold or plastic, u richard so fast can estimate everything. U not human, u are god....

haha Only full time investor can play share? What the XXX theory? Ya i play share because for fun. Too boring for my life. Luckily i meet u in this blog, who always remember me and said out my name. Thanks.

up to him lah, different people different situation, whether when i avg and how much i avg only i know. Ok? Please dont follow me, and follow richard expert.

please, if u want comment or feedback please go ahead just dont refer me in. thanks.

I think my name like this wont hurt people. I just hurt myself, because sometimes i feel i am ganasai, really dont want to lose. But if u continue said "sad", "malu" aganist other people, please stop now.

please stop lah. Even my name is like this, should not be respect? You not allow people got such name? You not allow father give me this name? Please lah. Let us go back the share discussion better.

ya i quite peace now. But somebody attitude/saying really.... as my name ganasai. "simple question lah", "sad/malu behind lah"... Dont talk any success or fail if basic thing like respect people also dont know.

No apology please. If yes i also said apology because i cant answer u question not because i dont know, is because i think this is the responsible for all of u go and study company background yourself, before buy in any share. Nobody got this responsibility to told u here.

? Why u still want to continue topic with me? I agree mikenkh is on the point he said we should cooling down, dont said the useless thing here. In previous i also mention sell right? Why not sell? Are u crazy if u buy large amount but still hold it?

Hi mikenkh, I agree with what u said. myself also feel that i talk a lot bullshit things but not related much to Eng case. No point, i still want to fight with someone but nothing much helpful result against Eng case. Who want to know historical please study. I am not technical or news reporter. Here i just share my respectful feeling and feedback only. Technical or historical left to those pro lah.

? am I responsible it? I think no.

haha We are all gentlemen here. Dont said "hentam" this word. But i just feel that we should repect all the people comment. If you think right then just listen loh, if not just treat it as a joke loh.

Please lah bro, people play with this counter sure will know the historical. Dont pretend u are only one expert and know everything.

I think everyone also make gain and loss before. why malu to tell the loss? Now i am facing paper loss on Eng case when purchased on price 2.2.

Bro, please becareful your word. Everyone also has right to said something here. But please dont said something like "sad side cos malu-lah"... and not respect people.

ya why not? So this is the reason we should throw it now? All of you are pro. I just share my viewpoint only. As i said early, throw or buy i can't make decision for u. If u think Eng can reach to historical price < 1 then, please wait lah to collect at that price or better sell off all now. Ok?

Please dont be emotional follow people throw the stock if u buy on price > 1.8. If you want throw please throw it early. Otherwise keep it. If u simply throw then u only can become crocodile dimsum immediately even no definite answer come out (Mid November). This advice is for those not buying large portion. If yes, please follow ck tan and cut loss partially. At this moment if u want buy at price 1.4-1.5 can, just small portion by small portion like ~ 500 shares. Richard say is correct. But not clearly for those who still have interest to continue play with this stock.

yaloh, experience not enough. But would I cut loss now? No. Because I can stand longer than crocodile. Am I still have power to collect even price drop below <1.2? Yes. Dont believe? see how lah. I just worry 2 things: company bankrupt or immediate privatisation price < 2... then haha.... Otherwise one day, dato still want to privatisation after eat enough dimsum....

haha, dont simply use my name and said buy or sell. yours all are pro should be able justify.

Still technical analysis? Good. I think most of people just affected by emotional mood? Forgot NTA or NAV or RSI or MACD? Any pro can explain how good the Stock in term of this all the technical analysis in short and long term?

sorry misunderstanding a bit. haha dont worry, i wont boring since stuck in this stock (still got other counter to play). Hmm... but look like sideway now, when it can Start big jump up or big jump down? All people wait for news come out? Dont want become dimsum now?

Richard, i understood what u said: "better sell off now because sure u will lose, keep away this stock and looking for other good counter". Thanks. But in this counter, i'm not tolerant. Sorry about that.

money really not simply fly from sky. Most of the people can only become dimsum. This is always truth. Even i am young in stock market, but i understood.

Simple concept, everyone also can be crocodile, everyone also can be dimsum. If who one cannot stand due to own ability or scare to current situation, then he will become dimsum. Otherwise, he will become crocodile.

yaloh, who want to kena eat again? Please continue sell more and more, may be I am another crocodile when u sell at price <1.2, haha!!!

ya, sell your share now (crocodile waiting u, sell as low as much u can), put in FD, buy blue chip and keep away.

thanks for your comment. I am different from other people. When people throw, i collect. When people collect i throw. If you throw, I throw then all of us will really become crocodile dimsum. But... Please never follow me, u must consider your situation, especially for those buying with huge portion, borrow money or daily money, father/mother money...

ya may be kena swallow, but so what? At least learn something... So cut loss? not my target, just portion of my bullet. How long can I hold? As you said - wait the company bankrupt guah or privitisation below RM2 still majority accept... I am really ganasai...