一朝得志，語無倫次, 剃人頭者人亦剃其頭.

Work Hard and Stay Humble.Too much ego will kill your talent.

Seph, why WCT continue to drop like no tomorrow?

Seph, wct wc and wd, wc drop alot bt wd remain stable..grab which one?

Seph, follow you buy mum 1.51...

Seph, why makan PJD instead of PJDWC? WC with slightly high premium? When mother and son expected to expose?

Thanks Connie.

Seph, BIMB WA to drop below 0.3x? Not advice to hold or average? Cut loss ?

ym, don't average loh, cut first n wait til exdate collect at 0.3X

Posted by wm83 > Dec 2, 2014 01:43 PM | Report Abuse

@seph bimb-wa burned me like hell, this dividend is not helping. recommend to cut loss? or average further?

Seph, collect at 0.3x? when is the exdate?

Seph, mahsing wb now premium @ 3sen..i will monitor it..

http://announcements.bursamalaysia.com/EDMS/edmsweb.nsf/all/49DA28FD7495A8C948257D960032A023/$File/Proposals.pdf

Seph.. any ideas on this to Mahsing WB? Bottom fishing?

I give back what I earn from market , I learn timing and opportunity cost very important.

Mr. Ooi had provide all the facts with figures, we should decide when to sell within own risk appetite. None of us are able to sell at peak, you will loss opportunity cost if are greedy and hope the price to continue sky rocket up. Be professional, you lost money you blame OTB，can you share your profit with OTB if you are making profit?

http://www.malaysiastock.biz/Corporate-Infomation.aspx?type=A&value=H&securityCode=5024
Please judge yourself, individual perception to decide, nobody can force to invest in which counter. As long as within your own risk appetite, you will be responsible on your own selection.
80后，股市要交學費的， 也沒有永遠的輸家或贏家!

40-50中年人，還真誇張。You must hv holding power if want to invest hupseng..

Who know hupseng will hv another round of bonus issue in 5 years time, then ppl start to chase again.why not buy when still low?

I bought hupseng for long term, I take it as kids education fund, a slowly growth stock n eventually you will see the result one day.Below RM 1, How low you expect hupseng to drop? Never cut loss u still be the winner one day.

when is the validity period for this 60c offer? when is the expiry date of this offer?

Seph, i think those sellers below RM 1.60 are part of OLH and his gang, purposely bring down the price to create panic. Since OLH so rich and his entry cost is much lower, he don't mind to create this situation for him to increase his shareholding.

when the offer will be expired??

http://bblifediary.blogspot.com/2014/10/blog-post_16.html

PJDEV和OSKPROP的「 合并」消息终于出来了。

但是这所谓的「 合并」并不是将两家公司结合在一起，而是将它们注入OSK（侨丰控股，5053，主板金融股)。

整个重组步骤如下：

OSK将会以每股RM2.00的价格，向丹斯里黄宗华家族和相关公司（Land Management）收购手头上所有的OSKPROP的股权。OSK会发出1亿7764股新股来支付，每股新股订价RM2.00。但由于所收购股权达到73.6%，已经抵触全面献购的门槛。因此，OSK也会以同样价钱向其他OSKPROP小股东提出全面献购，小股东可选择拿现金（每股OSKPROP领回RM2.00）或拿OSK新股（每股OSKPROP换1股OSK）。

此外，OSK也会以每股RM1.00的价格，向所有OSKPROP-WC的持有人收购所有凭单。


OSK也会以每股RM1.60的价格，向丹斯里黄宗华家族和相关公司（Dindings Consolidated）收购手头上所有的PJDEV的股权。OSK会发出1亿1468万股新股来支付，每股新股订价RM2.00。由于所收购股权达到31.7%，并没有抵触全面献购的门槛。但OSK自愿以每股1.60令吉向PJDEV其他小股东提出全面献购，小股东同样可选择拿现金（每股PJDEV领回RM1.60）或拿OSK新股（每股PJDEV换0.8股OSK）。

此外，OSK也会以每股RM0.60的价格，向所有PJDEV-WC的持有人收购所有凭单。

在进行重组的同时，OSK会以4送1比例派送凭单，以及派发每股15仙特别股息。但是，通过换股方式而将OSKPROP和PJDEV转换成OSK新股的股东没分。

很多人开始问：这项交易和不合理？

那就要看你是站在哪一方的立场。

如果你目前是OSK股东而没持有OSKPROP或PJDEV，想必你一定会拍手叫好，觉得这是一宗「 合理得不能再合理」的交易，因为你的公司以「超乎常理的低价」买进他人的公司股份。之后还有免费凭单拿，又有特别股息收。

简直是爽到不能再爽了！！！恭喜恭喜！！


但是，如果你只是OSKPROP或PJDEV的股东，那现在心理一定很不是滋味，或者和我一样狂屌。因为你清楚知道你公司的估值不可能那么低。

OSKPROP产业那么好卖，营业额和净利一直增长，又有新商场，前途一片大好。PJDEV的每股净资产达到RM2.54，又还有大把资产多年没重估。况且最近股价都已经跌了那么低，苦不堪言的时候，人家竟然还跑来压低你的价。

更绝的是，换了股后嫁过了门，人家还是不把你当「自己人 」看，免费凭单和股息没你份。

目前，我个人是绝不接受这献议。

由于重组完成后OSKPROP和PJDEV并不会除牌，那就留着再慢慢跟它熬吧！！

http://bblifediary.blogspot.com/2014/10/blog-post_16.html

PJDEV和OSKPROP的「 合并」消息终于出来了。

但是这所谓的「 合并」并不是将两家公司结合在一起，而是将它们注入OSK（侨丰控股，5053，主板金融股)。

整个重组步骤如下：

OSK将会以每股RM2.00的价格，向丹斯里黄宗华家族和相关公司（Land Management）收购手头上所有的OSKPROP的股权。OSK会发出1亿7764股新股来支付，每股新股订价RM2.00。但由于所收购股权达到73.6%，已经抵触全面献购的门槛。因此，OSK也会以同样价钱向其他OSKPROP小股东提出全面献购，小股东可选择拿现金（每股OSKPROP领回RM2.00）或拿OSK新股（每股OSKPROP换1股OSK）。

此外，OSK也会以每股RM1.00的价格，向所有OSKPROP-WC的持有人收购所有凭单。


OSK也会以每股RM1.60的价格，向丹斯里黄宗华家族和相关公司（Dindings Consolidated）收购手头上所有的PJDEV的股权。OSK会发出1亿1468万股新股来支付，每股新股订价RM2.00。由于所收购股权达到31.7%，并没有抵触全面献购的门槛。但OSK自愿以每股1.60令吉向PJDEV其他小股东提出全面献购，小股东同样可选择拿现金（每股PJDEV领回RM1.60）或拿OSK新股（每股PJDEV换0.8股OSK）。

此外，OSK也会以每股RM0.60的价格，向所有PJDEV-WC的持有人收购所有凭单。

在进行重组的同时，OSK会以4送1比例派送凭单，以及派发每股15仙特别股息。但是，通过换股方式而将OSKPROP和PJDEV转换成OSK新股的股东没分。

很多人开始问：这项交易和不合理？

那就要看你是站在哪一方的立场。

如果你目前是OSK股东而没持有OSKPROP或PJDEV，想必你一定会拍手叫好，觉得这是一宗「 合理得不能再合理」的交易，因为你的公司以「超乎常理的低价」买进他人的公司股份。之后还有免费凭单拿，又有特别股息收。

简直是爽到不能再爽了！！！恭喜恭喜！！


但是，如果你只是OSKPROP或PJDEV的股东，那现在心理一定很不是滋味，或者和我一样狂屌。因为你清楚知道你公司的估值不可能那么低。

OSKPROP产业那么好卖，营业额和净利一直增长，又有新商场，前途一片大好。PJDEV的每股净资产达到RM2.54，又还有大把资产多年没重估。况且最近股价都已经跌了那么低，苦不堪言的时候，人家竟然还跑来压低你的价。

更绝的是，换了股后嫁过了门，人家还是不把你当「自己人 」看，免费凭单和股息没你份。

目前，我个人是绝不接受这献议。

由于重组完成后OSKPROP和PJDEV并不会除牌，那就留着再慢慢跟它熬吧！！

http://bblifediary.blogspot.com/2014/10/blog-post_16.html

这就是他（OLH)的可恶之处，他要你卖给他，但是出价低，又不给你甜头。

你是PJDEV的股东，现在股价也已经在1.60，你还会傻傻跑去换股吗？而且换了股，又没有份拿凭单和股息。倒不如直接卖掉PJDEV，然后买OSK。对吗？

那到时候，PJDEV和OSKPROP的股价还可能会走得更低。

先要阐明一件事，这里所谓的“强制收购”，只是Bursa的条例。

在这个收购案里，Bursa会强制OSK做出全面收购。

但是OSKPROP并没有强制股东接受，所以你看它和PJDEV并没有在Bursa发出任何有关的通告。

其实收购OSKPROP的73.6%股权，OSK又岂有会不知道这样会触动全面献购的条例。

既然会触动，那就打蛇随棍上，故意把价格定到低低，然后推出给你们看到但又吃不到的免费凭单和特别股息。

除非你我都是白痴，要不然谁会“欢天喜地”拿OSKPROP去换OSK？？（不过不否认股市里真的有这种人存在）

在这种情形下，没多少人接受，到时它就收购不成，一切拉倒。

从这里就可看出大股东很明显没有全购的意愿，只是意思意思做个样子吧了！

很多人没想过，虽然大股东都持有这三家公司的股份，表面上把PJDEV和OSKPROP卖给OSK，好像也吃不到甜头（因为也是以1.60和2.00的价格）。

但是这么以转手，大股东牢牢还是控制OSK的股权，搞不好在OSK的股权还会增加，对他们不会有损失，发而还会获得更大的利益。

这只是左手转右手的把戏，完全没有显现出有一丝的诚意。

The PJD Purchase Consideration of RM1.60 per PJD Share was arrived at on a willing-buyer willing-seller basis, after taking into account the historical share price performance of PJD for the past 12 months up to and including 14 October 2014, being the last trading day prior to signing the Acquisition Agreement.

@ Willing buyer seller basis, i can choose not to sell to OSKH.

Based on the above, the PJD Purchase Consideration of RM1.60 per PJD Share is within the historical high and low daily VWAP of PJD Shares of RM2.24 and RM1.10, respectively, for the past 12 months up to and including 14 October 2014.

Based on the above, the PJD Purchase Consideration of RM1.60 per PJD Share is within the range of a discount of 2.4% to 20.0% over the last transacted price of PJD Shares as at 14 October 2014 and the historical VWAPs of PJD Shares for the past 12 months up to and
including 14 October 2014.

@ offer price Rm 1.60, discount of 2.4% to 20%, offer price should range from 1.64 to 1.92..why want to sell at discount to OSKH??

The PJD Purchase Consideration of RM1.60 per PJD Share was arrived at on a willing-buyer willing-seller basis, after taking into account the historical share price performance of PJD for the past 12 months up to and including 14 October 2014, being the last trading day prior to signing the Acquisition Agreement.

@ Willing buyer seller basis, i can choose not to sell to OSKH.

Based on the above, the PJD Purchase Consideration of RM1.60 per PJD Share is within the historical high and low daily VWAP of PJD Shares of RM2.24 and RM1.10, respectively, for the past 12 months up to and including 14 October 2014.

Based on the above, the PJD Purchase Consideration of RM1.60 per PJD Share is within the range of a discount of 2.4% to 20.0% over the last transacted price of PJD Shares as at 14 October 2014 and the historical VWAPs of PJD Shares for the past 12 months up to and
including 14 October 2014.

@ offer price Rm 1.60, discount of 2.4% to 20%, offer price should range from 1.64 to 1.92..why want to sell at discount to OSKH??

DEFINITION OF 'MERGER'
The combining of two or more companies, generally by offering the stockholders of one company securities in the acquiring company in exchange for the surrender of their stock.

DEFINITION OF 'TAKEOVER'
When an acquiring company makes a bid for a target company. If the takeover goes through, the acquiring company becomes responsible for all of the target company’s operations, holdings and debt. When the target is a publicly traded company, the acquiring company will make an offer for all of the target’s outstanding shares. A takeover is virtually the same as an acquisition, except that “takeover” has a negative connotation, indicating the target does not wish to be purchased.

OSKH mandatory takeover OSKP and voluntary takeover PJD, this is not merger between OSKP and PJD to create new entity. The target , ie OSKP and PJD react negatively of the proposed takeover.

DEFINITION OF 'MERGER'
The combining of two or more companies, generally by offering the stockholders of one company securities in the acquiring company in exchange for the surrender of their stock.

DEFINITION OF 'TAKEOVER'
When an acquiring company makes a bid for a target company. If the takeover goes through, the acquiring company becomes responsible for all of the target company’s operations, holdings and debt. When the target is a publicly traded company, the acquiring company will make an offer for all of the target’s outstanding shares. A takeover is virtually the same as an acquisition, except that “takeover” has a negative connotation, indicating the target does not wish to be purchased.

OSKH mandatory takeover OSKP and voluntary takeover PJD, this is not merger between OSKP and PJD to create new entity. The target , ie OSKP and PJD react negatively of the proposed takeover.

i bought enough at my best level..will hold and see the show..

Mr. Ooi, If bound back to 80c above, then make more money from panic sellers.

still got people q to sell below RM 1?? pls think logically...offer price RM 1

demand and supply theory, nothing to argue with you.

寧可天下人負我, 休教我負天下人

When u start trading shares, be ready to deal with risks. No point blame OTB , he strongly recommend to buy OSKPWC and PJDWC to all his subscribers, you think he will happy all the day? He do it with honestly and offer for help.

So what can you help those panic sellers? I hv both counters and suffer paper loss.

Pls show to us instead of keep on bullshit.

Mr. Ooi, any view on OSKP & OSKP WC, since mandatory offer, that why WC trade below RM1?
Appreciate your comments, thanks..

Seph, not only OLH bodoh, those who sell OSKPWC below RM 1 also stupid, why want to sell below offer price? Panic sellers...aiyaaa...

OLH offer RM 1 for warrant, why sold at open market below RM 1?
Pls think before you decide to sell..

Expect panic sellers this morning, OLH Will happily collect from them. Suffer paper losses for time being,Will hold and judge later.

OLH expect panic seller to throw tomorrow , then he will ready to collect happily. Why throw to him as PJD expected to grow 20% for FY2015?

The RCPS are issued pursuant to the bonus issue of 296,816,420 RCPS at an issue price of RM0.50 per RCPS on the basis of one (1) RCPS for every two (2) existing ordinary shares of RM0.50 each in Amcorp Properties Berhad (“AMPROP” or the “Company”) (“Shares”) held at 5.00 p.m. on 26 September 2014.

The RCPS shall carry a non-cumulative preferential dividend rate of two (2) sen per RCPS per annum, being 4% per annum calculated based on the nominal value of the RCPS, to be declared and payable annually in arrears, subject to availability of distributable profits.

The RCPS shall be redeemable at the option of the holder in whole or in part at RM0.50 per RCPS, by submitting a redemption notice at any time commencing from the market day immediately after the Issue Date, and expiring three (3) months from the Issue Date (both dates inclusive).

The RCPS shall be redeemable in whole or in part at the option of the Company, at any time from the first (1st) anniversary of the Issue Date up to the Maturity Date (both dates inclusive), unless previously converted, by giving not less than 30 days’ notice in writing to the holders of the RCPS. Redemption shall be made at a redemption price of RM0.50 per RCPS aggregated with any unpaid declared dividends. For the avoidance of doubt, the last date for service of the notice of redemption by the Company shall fall on 30 days prior to the Maturity Date.

The RCPS shall be convertible, at the option of the holder, at any time from the first (1st) anniversary of the Issue Date up to the Maturity Date (both dates inclusive), without the payment of additional consideration by the holder thereof, into such number of new fully-paid Shares as is determined from dividing the issue price of the RCPS by the conversion price.

If at any time the aggregate nominal value of the RCPS outstanding is less than 10% of the aggregate nominal value of the original issue size, the Company can invoke mandatory conversion of all the remaining outstanding RCPS without the payment of additional consideration by the holder thereof, into such number of new fully-paid Shares as is determined from dividing the issue price of the RCPS by the conversion price.

All outstanding RCPS at the Maturity Date shall on the market day immediately following the Maturity Date, be automatically converted into new Shares at the conversion price.

Any fractional entitlements of new RCPS pursuant to the bonus issue of RCPS and new Shares on conversion will be disregarded and dealt with in such manner as the Board of Directors of AMPROP deems fit and expedient in the best interests of the Company.

Life is not merely Bursa, life still carry on as usual. Losses in market will be temporary, but lost in human life will hurt you forever..no take 2 of your life. Appreciate what you have right now, help the sick and poor if you can. If you think your losses in market are suffer and hurt..please look at others who are more suffered than you.

Based on Uncle Z article, Amprop is good fundamental stock or speculative or so-called hot stock with plenty of rumours?

Your choice, you decide to buy, hold or sell.

Testing time
Just a short note.

We are currently going through some testing time in the stock market. This thing happens few times within year, every year. And it is exactly this kind of time will put off many nervous investors. Or should I say amateur investors. If you speculate in stock market for short term, certainly this time around is not an easy time. During rally market, I often heard people saying want to be a full time trader and quit their 9-to-5 job. This is because they make money easily almost everyday from the market. But they forget what they are doing is not sustainable as their performance in their trading is difficult to be consistent for long run. So, this testing time will bring them back to reality. Make money from the market is never by chance but by perseverance, patience, trust and knowledge.

If you are stuck in the stock market at the moment but in good fundamental stock, then you may be down but safe. But if you are stuck in speculative or so-called hot stock with plenty of rumours but no substance, then you are against your own luck. Many traders or speculators turned long term investors unintentionally because of this. How I know? Because I was one, long long time ago. I learnt from my mistakes.

With this kind of less enthusiastic sentiment in the stock market, good stocks will not have its field day just yet. Starting from now, I may touch on other things which may not necessary about stock market. Life is not always about stock market. Come what may, enjoy it.

panic sellers follow ppl throwing...

3 cross trade transactions today...

RSI very low now...time to rebound

RCPS around 50c to 60c...

Yesterday closing 1.32 , today ex date ref price 1.07, different of 25c. For those who bought around RM 1 for at least 2000 shares you get one free RCPS with reference price of 50c, if you sell before ex , if 1.32 -1.00=32c x 2000 shares = 64c

If RCPS opening price RM 0.50, your gain is slightly lower if RCPS trade below 64c

股市变幻莫测， 当你认为是时候就套利， 看个人可以承受的风险。。如果你买入低于RM1, 输的机会比较低。RCPS是红股。price after ex date also not a big matter...

what is the estimate price after ex? Listing price for the RCPS?

Seph, nothing to worry just hold. What is the price after ex and RCPS price 1st day trading price?

rational why drop today, all resolution being approved and long term investors include the shareholders / insider / retail investors are holding it and wait for the execution date. Seller become lesser when compared to past few days, currently who q to sell are those contra players or without holding power.

http://klse.i3investor.com/blogs/blisswise/59245.jsp

Credibility of the management is questionable!!!

Please analyze the price movement:

24/2/14-result day, closed 0.76
3/3/14 - 5th trading days after result announced, closed 0.585
4/3/14 - bound back and closed 0.66

26/5/14 - result day , closed 0.805
2/6/14, 5th trading days after result announced, closed 0.705
3/6/14 - bound back and closed 0.710

From this trend, hopefully bottom will be RM 1 to 1.09 , drop around 0.10-0.19 from today high @29/8/14 , RM 1.19