How does careplus turn green? For it to be green it has to be above 1.82 and it is at 1.6 now. So you guys forecasting it to go 2.00 today? A 20% rise from now?

Its time for Ben Ben to retire too. If he don't , without new leader in the company, means the new govt will provide nothing new also for Datasonic. What other big govt project do they have?

Share price dead, forum also dead?

@shadowz, how is CBB safe when UMNO and PAS retreat support for Tun M? That only means that UMNO coalition have difficulties in hijacking the government position, thus triggering only the possible reinstatement of PKR, which may put Anwar in position, WHICH will remind Anwar how important it is to take out your enemy ASAP to prevent further retaliation. Which directly translate to, put them in a position where they can never return in fastest manner. If Zahid is convicted of bribery, UNLESS the money from CBB is proven ( or favored by Anwar ) then they will drop that 6 million as not a bribery, but if Anwar wanted that bribery to materialise, it means in a bribery there must be a receiver and a giver. Zahid is a receiver and for him to be convicted, there must be a giver and in this case, it is CBB.

How can CBB be safe in this instant? I don't get it.

Positive? Don't see movement.

If confident wan, then sidebet la. If no sidebet, what kind of confident is that? If not confident, why have such definitive statement like " Tmrw 1.45-1.50 ". You could have just say, I am hoping it reach 1.45 to 1.50 tmrw. Cause that indicates that you hope, not you know but when you say 1.45 to 1.50 tmrw, it indicates you know it will. Getting irritated with how people like to make statement that has no basis. I know this forum does not command accountability but janganlah, so leka membuat statement. There are just too many crap statement made that if I were to come up with another counter to bet against the statement people make about pricing, I'd make way more money than anyone could on stocks. Getting fedup with it man.

1.45 - 1.50 ?? Adaker??? Want to make a sidebet on your prediction? LOL

Up later? Based on what ??

At this kind of high price now still can fly? When is later? LOL

Within this week or next, announcement of new CEO should be likely.

sharerich

1. I am not arguing for the sake of arguing. I am telling you to not make points you cannot substantiate by claiming the fact from another person is less right than yours when you have no weight in the data you share. I am quoting your previous post to show and remind you that you too are making points that are plucked from the sky. And I am telling you to not be offensive by labelling me as ridiculous just because what you think is right, is different from what u think is right and to tell you through that, your points are as ridiculous as mine.

2. I don't need your advice on what will get me into lawsuit. I am a lawyer by profession. Being a smarty pants or using empathetic justification of your own personal character to cover up your screw ups makes its worst. It's as though you just can't afford to lose in a conversation. If you can't be wrong and can't lose. Don't start or engage anyone unless you wanna go all the way.

3. Mind your own business. As I mind mine. I put up my point. I did not force anyone to accept those points. I also did not attack you personally but you did it when you labelled me as ridiculous. So stop being an idiot. If you wanna go on with this, I can accompany you all the way.

4. Please don't embarrass yourself. If you have done wrong with bad intent to insult people's credibility, have the guts to admit it. If you want to advise me to becareful in case of a lawsuit, the way is surely not by calling me " ridiculous". After you did your maliciously intent statement, you cover up your nonsense by being a little girl saying you want to help to protect me from a lawsuit? Please, save that kind of an excuse for a child.

For instant :

Look like PH government want to award the IIS contract to Dsonic, but to avoid suspicion of nepotism, Abu Hanifah have to be removed from the board.

It is also a very ridiculous comment and nothing justifies this. And this, I can be very sure, you are more than wrong, 100% on this issue. So don't call people ridiculous just because you don't agree with others. Unless you only make statements that you are sure about. But if you're alike and you want your statement to be considered as credible but call others ridiculous just cause it isn't the same as what you think, that's called stupidity. So proof to us IIS is going to be awarded and also proof that Hanifah is removed because to avoid suspicion. Then we talk about ridiculous.

@sharerich it is as ridiculous as anyone else who who make claims about project won without any solid reasoning, which I am sure, many are and when asked being shown any proof, only perhaps a trickle from here can give any. So my info is as ridiculous as you can be as well.

@Sharerich allegations or not, everyone is making it in a public forum. All those, project received, project awarded. Project hospital and all those statements which are all just a by the way statement that isn't substantiated by anything. The only difference with the statement I made compared to those is that mine doesn't tickle the fancy of Datasonic's investors. However, if one is a true investors, those are story that Razali may bring new hope for Datasonic, which is actually a good news because if I am right and Razali will remove cronies and save millions of ringgit every month for the company, that's profit for the company, which translates to a possible dividend and perhaps, rising price. So how you wanna see it or where you wanna stand, it's up to you.

Frankly I did not post the info for any special purpose other than the truth. Of course it can be disputed but if you guys knows the old staff of Datasonic or the staff that is long there today, you are quite guaranteed to hear the same which I have been told a million times by any employee there. Another fun fact is that, Hanifah was merely a signatory. Yea his family is there. Chew family is also in the company as we, his friends too. In fact, most of the useless director and consultant were friends to Chew not Hanifah. And Chew friend has been siphoning out funds from the company many times via internal projects and special commission through supplier. Don't believe me. I don't know for sure but only thru hearsay. Millions are moved to personal interest pockets. I know these happen in corporate. But the story I hear on monthly basis is the only reason I hope Razali will remove most of the directors and consultant and start the company properly, so that the company really start to have food fundamental to buy. I am vested in it. So I hope the change is for the better

Finally, insider news...change top management. Dato Razali. Datasonic hires a handful of consultant that does not work but basically just draining the company's profit. Millions every month. Hopefully the new boss will remove consultants and employ them only on need only basis rather than feeding them like children.

Also it's time the old generation make way for the new. Their directors are all in the 60s 70s. Most of them only will appear during AGM. Company could have had higher profits.

Only the company that has no link to current PH company is spared la. Mahathir no crony company who gets contract via bribe meh over so many years? All also have. But now Mahathir is king and Mahathir wants Zahid gone. So anyone to touch Zahid must kena la no choice.

Profound Radiance also kena. But there is another company( S5 Systems Sdn Bhd ) doing what Profound Radiance is doing, which also have directors linked to previous government didn't kena anything. Tipu la all these are revenge la. Not much as for the rakyat wan. If for the rakyat, we should not even have Mahathir as he is also corrupted.

Mokhzani clean meh? What happened to Opcom tender? Gobind say ask for report. Now what happen to the report. No news no story. What happen to award to Petron? No news no story also.

So after so much speculation of what the company is capable of, when is it ever going to get back up? Stories only matter if the results show, results don't lie.

No company with smart bosses will have share dropping like bird shit this way. Anyone who thinks the bosses are smart....please la...look at the graph from 2 years ago to now.

Lol...suddenly got one person who register in this forum just to post 1 post to explain for Datasonic drop and give full confident to Ben Ben. Need so obvious meh?

Really? RM1? Wow. This share drops 50 over percent. Chew Ben Ben smart? I don't think so la. If this indicates a smart director and businessman, then there is no lousy business man anymore.

Ben Ben? Talk he is very good. Teach he is very good. Do? Balikla...drop 50percent from the day u buy. Worst management ever. Probably hired a bunch of idiots from Iris also to be top management. Tiap tiap hari tipu story.

All director sleeping type. Keep on banking on IC and Passport then get some small CCTV. Nothing great ever comes up besides these two via cronies over the past few years.

None of them are business people.

Been on this stock for 2 years...its dead.

Yea. Half of a cent dividend.

Whoa....half a cent dividend. Seriously. It either tells me, the company is frugal or the company is not making money anymore.

Heard that before somewhere...some time.....yea...its kinda everywhere.

Don't seem like what I am saying gets thru. Whatever the reason may be or whatever the provision is provided by the web admin, is one thing. I am just saying many comes in here in hope to find news they cannot find outside, but everytime I come in, I see arguments. Someone else may be immature to us, when we fight back with the immature person, it means we are the same. I have personally never fight with a 2 year old boy back. I just let them be. Cause they're a kiddo, I don't even entertain. So if we think some are immature, we should just let them be rather than we fight like one at the same time. Sigh. Nvm la.

Why we need to label others as immature or fresh or not analytical or whatever. I mean, we think its good, we buy, we give our opinion, another who thinks it's not right, just don't buy if don't agree. We share news so for the benefit of buyers and sellers, we have an extra news or "rumors" so to speak to decide. Calling anyone names isn't going to help anyone decide properly, discrediting anyone else also won't. I am here just to see news to be frank, as much as I know news here may be false, made up or accurate, I won't know, its my own discretion my judgement. But if someone lies about their news, let them be la, if someone else show off about their skils, let them be la. I mean I believe all of us have some sense to know that if there is one person here who is as good as Warren Buffet, he or she won't be here also. So we hang around with a basic assumption that we are all just rookie sharing news that we believe and analysis that we thought could be true. It's all purely our personal believe and our personal stories. We don't go tell someone else, their god is false, while mine is correct or how the other person's god from my perspective must be made up due to sentiments that cannot be logic nor proven. If anyone is damn sure about their theory on this stock, highly encourage them to take millions of loan and throw it in, the money made back would've covered more than enough of the interest PLUS profit you. If someone believe the other's confident is wrong about the positives of the stock, that someone also should just sell of the stock and buy another unless he is some kind of god and has some form of conviction to help another from losing money, which in my sane mind of living over all these years tells me there is no such good hearted person. So in the end, what's the agenda? Don't tell me it's just purely ego and pride. Come on people. share the news you believe or whatever you believe, but the attacks and name calling have to stop. It's not forum related nor is it helpful to anyone at all. Peace man. Who's the multimillionaire here who earns 400k per month? Please share with me how you do that if you are. And also tell me why is someone earning 400k per month is wasting time in this forum. And otherwise, if everyone is mediocre, then stop claiming our own views to be better than the other also la. Last of all, please stop believing that your purchase and sell here matters and will move or drop the stock price for Datasonic. How much of stocks are really allocated for public? 15%? 10% or 20%? Internally 80% is held? Then the remaining 20 is shared between big shareholders, equities, companies, and some other maybe high networth individuals. So generally speaking, how much do you think your shareholding will affect the price of this stock if you buy or let go? Really? I think even if all of us here throw away everything we have, nothing would've moved at all even.

Why can't this forum members just stick to objective opinions on this stock. I wonder why everytime I come in to read updates, I am seeing people fighting with each other, insulting each other, immitating each other. Geez. Not tired?

Doesn't really matter who say what true false or whatever criticism or praise la. In the end, results are all that matters. If good and people are earning, nobody will care if it is critisize, if it is bad and everyone losing money, nobody will care also if it is praises. To shut the mouth of people who critisize, the best way is the price goes up multi fold and investors earned. No one need to defend. To Shut the mouth of people who praise, is when price kept going down with no sight of improvement in any near future for many many years, praises will go to air also. Results. That's all.

Hi Mr. Shrekk, I have sold it and take it as a lesson of life. Money I can earn back, stupidity cannot be justified. When business is on the losing end, cut lose and earn money again. Not hold on to it. So yes, I am laughing now. My earns and losses is not a matter of concern of anyone, my results also is not important. Again, this forum focuses on Datasonic, if I earn, nobody will take my money, if I lose, nobody also will give me money. So who cares about me? But Datasonic's performance. Try to refocus like a mature adult would on the real topic here. You've focused on me way too much and I thank you for your kind attention, Mr. Datasonic employee. You know who you are. :) The whole forum is criticizing Datasonic already. And you're targetting me, it must be because I hit the right thing. Cause it affected you. Either that or you have not reached puberty. Have fun.

Hahahahaha... no words needs to be spoken nor argue. In business, so as stock, results always speaks for themselves. Doesn't matter what everyone else says. If its good, its good, if its bad, its bad.

Actually there's nothing much I need to say about this counter. In the end, we'll just see the performance, I sure hope all of you are right cause I'd be the happiest. But after 5 years from now if it drops and never get back up, I hope you guys all realize, who was right. Uptrend? Well I've heard that many times. Percentage of it taking place? Almost never, besides during IPO.

Again, nothing personal. If any of Datasonic's management is reading this, seriously, instead of defending, prove yourself as a company that can bring up your price with powerful fundamentals as many claimed. All talk, no action, anyone idiot also can talk. Doesn't make anyone smart or smarter. Results more important. Have fun.

Somebody terasa, so dedicate the whole forum about me. I am honored. It's either he's too free or he's part of the management that terasa the insult. Have fun tracing my previous post. Only kids do that. I don't comment too much on stupid agenda. Too much assumption. Have fun.

And for any future poster, please note. I did ot blame anyone in this forum for causing the lost. Come on, unless you own the company, perhaps. I am just saying my own news, my own views and analysis has went wrong causing me to lose money. I am just hoping others may find my new findings helpful before investing. Pavilions opinion is pro datasonic hoping more to invest and believe in it, I have never once mocked him for being stupid. If the opposite opinion on this stock is made, the same respect should be given. Otherwise, feel free to ask the admin to ban me due to violation of forum rules if I did any. I m sure grown gentleman would understand the concept of agree to disagree. The third world brainer however can dwell in your low education standard of mentality. I am happier cause relatively I suddenly feel like I am better. Not cause I am but cause there indeed exist people of lower standards.

U can comment anything I like on a forum dedicated on discussion of datasonic. Please do ot discuss about me. But if anyone thinks I am that great and worthy of your comment you are welcome. This forum is about datasonic so anyone can say anything about it. Some people here cannot understand the concept of discuss right topic in right forum, but there is something called sekolah rendah. You can always go back. No problem small boy. I stand by my opinion, the company have weak management. This was my stand since day 1.i bought because of the firm news of petrol so subsidy. Being taken for a ride. Besides that so called firm project back then it is impossible for me to put a single cent in this company. I have paper lost now and I will still tell the truth of my opinion. For people who has lost but try to hide and persuade to make everyone come in and lose together, you got to go back to God and ask God to forgive you. Just cause I die, I do ot need to see or drag everyone in with me to feel better. This is my opinion on the stock and I am entitled to it. I believe the admin allows for it as well. But I sure as hell believe anyone who comes in calling other poster stupid is never the intention of this forum. As long as I do the right thing, I fear not people who don't understand the world of grown man.

A lot of ppl use the cue oof CBB buying. But if you look carefully, CBB has always been buying. Nothing changes anyways. Its nothing new, and it is not affecting anything at all. I have not heard of stories about big time investors throwing money into this company so far. Warrants, predictions, analysis, all done without the need of money, anyone can say anything, but when you need to say throw in 1 billion, the question is, WOULD YOU? If you wouldn't, then you don't have THAT so called confident that this will soar as predicted. RM4?? Please. Can get back to RM2, its already a blessing and honor.

Being a die hard fan of Datasonic, after so long, I have to say, I am giving up. I am not selling yet because if I sell now I lost RM60k. That's quite a hefty sum to me, for just placing my money on a company I once do not believe in but was convinced it is good, due to the proposed fuel subsidy project.

Project didn't come in. Nothing does, balik balik also just Mykad related project. Yes some big companies may issue warrant here and there, but many good has been said about Datasonic by many big companies as well for quite a while now and none was proven to be true. Track records are very important evident, no words spoken can replace that.

The moment one day the share can reach a state that I can lose less, I am selling it all off. I finally conclude in my personal capacity after evaluating this company, truly I hold firm to my believe, the management are seated with people who are incapable of doing business. They're lucky because they have the right person at the right place to win some government projects. Cronies don't stay there forever so I think the era is over. Do not flame me, this is my personal opinion. I have supported and I have criticized and my criticism was proven correct in this period of time, but my praises are not even near the truth. Sadly.

That's why whenever I see people commenting so much technically I need o laugh. Stock is not a game you can predict, it's result based on business. You can't break the code using software. If you can, businesses will never fail. Many technical investors seemed to forget that. See chart too much, it seemed like a game. The winners? Stock people who give this and charge you thousand, consultancy firm, software developers.

If chart works, I am a billionaire by today at least. If chart works many would also be at least millionaire by today cause even f we have no capital to play, our prediction through chart will make us tale loan from anywhere just to play. Averaging it out, none of us millionaire would be talking to each other debunking stories or remaking new ones too. But if anyone find a fool proof sure work chart and have a sure way of interpreting it, at least 80% right is enough, please call me. Capital on me and profit you can take 50%. If wrong, capital loss on you. Confident candidate, do come. I am interested. Very sincerely.

Hi steady: If can't stand the drop, I advice to cut loss. I always look at reality, it doesn't matter who my friends are or who told me what. Words are mere words. Who cares right? Money is yours. In reality, if you cannot stand the drop, it means you may get yourself into trouble if you don't cut your loss. Then nothing will justify for you to hold. Do note, information from CBB, does not give anyone a 100%. In fact, it will always only be 50-50. If CBB knows for sure whether it'll go up or down, I can tell you what will happen to him. He will most probably be the next Bill Gates. Look at it this way, if he knows for sure it will go up say 30cents, he'd borrow as much of money as he could even if it mean 100's of million and wait for that 30 cents up then sell. Don't you think he'd be one of the richest man around the world by now? The fact that he isn't, shows that he does not know and I can safely say, nobody will. He only have confident in the project he's bidding for. But then, shouldn't he always be? Otherwise why bid? But cut the story short, I bought at RM1.98 for your information. No secret, I bought again at another lower price to average. When I told him I bought at RM1.98, he said HOLD ON TO IT. Trust him or not, you yourself decide. I myself also can't really decide, I only trust results.

Didn't ask oops anyone to believe me. Unless there is benefit for me. So if anyone will into bet that I don't know cbb personally, come find me and I will call him right in front of you and if still disbelieve will arrange immediate meeting with him. I only want cash, 50k onwards. If on, bring you see the other management as well and ask them directly if they know me. Then add another 50k on the spot. If on, let me know. If they say they don't know me, I pay you 200k on the spot. Pls bear in mind I am not even hard selling datasonic. I am just saying what I hear from them and what I think. You don't want to buy or don't want to believe I have no issue but need not discredit others. You get nothing and traders don't do things that does not benefit them at all. O makes me begin to doubt whether doubters are traders or they have ulterior motives.

Thanks for reading even my previous post. This is for you guys all to note, I do not take sides. I am not CBB's relative nor am I an enemy to Datasonic, I just speak of the real truth I am exposed to and these are always first hand information, though I can't prove it to any of you.

Honestly, CBB is that kinda person knowing him for years. When the company went IPO, he told me buy it, when it was offered at RM1.80 back then and he said, it will go to at least RM4. It didn't, for quite a long time. But it did later on. I missed the boat, to be honest. I could've been a multi millionaire by now if I did. Anyways, this time round, I am still unsure. The fact is, whether I am sure or unsure, I am holding the stocks unlike the first round so like it or not I am in. So I decide to hold on.

His estimates this time is not based on fuel subsidy, he isn't talking about it anymore I do not know why so I don't bother asking as well. But he is referring to another potential project coming in next year. I am sure many who went into the analysis will know which project they're talking about. It's supposedly over a 100 million. If that is true and it came in, the stock price is predicted to doubled. Note my word used, 'predicted', not for sure. I never believe in for sure, no for sure drop no for sure up.

Let the public flame me for whatever I want to say, I don't really care too, but I care about whether I make money or not and if I could help some friends to also make some.

So in conclusion, I am holding whatever I have now, until next year for as long as I could. I will try to get closer to their project progress if possible so that I get more updates. So the rest, you guys decide for yourself. He even asked to buy more right now and say now, is the best of the best time to buy. These are his words, not mine so don't hold me accountable for it.

Enjoy your trade.

Just had a chat with CBB after a long while and he told me if you can buy more, buy now if you can't, hold the rest that you have within one more year. We're basically asked to just trust him. Trust or not, you guys decide, its just what I got and its not my opinion. Have a good day.

8765, I don't know what you mean actually care to elaborate? Zaiful Ayu is the son to Ibrahim Saad, one time Timbalan Ketua Menteri Penang. Isn't a new thing. 60 lots isn't any big deal either, or I cannot see any significance. If you have something else implied, do share for the benefit of all.

I do not refer anyone as losers, if anyone can show me one of my post that labels anyone losers, come out, I buy you dinner. You name the place and food, I pay the bill. In the end, all I mean is don't diss people. Negative and positive of stock, we listen, if you go to seminars, isn't that what people say as well? Its weird over there we don't insult the person who gave these speech and we even pay for them. So take all with a pinch of salt, it is for our decision making. I am not for anyone who insults personally here. But be objective, then this forum will be one that gives people the most information to make a good decision. That is how it should be. If we can stick to that from now on, its not too late. Other stocks, just ignore, if people mention, why entertain? Just let it go and pretend you didn't see anything. If you don't respond to it, will they get to continue? They may. But is there any point for them? No. So let it go man and lets throw in the good and bad for DS. Seriously.

No dire concern, just coming in here wishing to see the good and bad points of Datasonic and what I see is people continuously insulting people. Simple as that. This is becoming a personal attack forum rather than a stock discussion forum now. When people say good things about Datasonic, it is good for investors, doesn't make the people who say it smart. That's personal. Same goes for the negatives. Rather if everyone here has something to say about Datasonic, be it bad or good, can't it be said out and that person don't get flamed or praised instead we take those news to evaluate? If negatives are continuously flame, what if they are real and then these people stop posting and we stop knowing the truth?

I really cannot see the purpose of anyone here trying to argue and defend Datasonic. Number 1, I assume everyone here is holding Datasonic's share, small or big. 2, we only want to earn. 3, fighting anyone who tells the negative of Datasonic will NOT boost the price, it may comfort our hearts, but it will not change the price.

We are holding the stock already anyways, if it goes up we're happy, if we hear bad news here, why not think " what if they are right? what should I do " and take it as a precaution? What's the point defending Datasonic like as though it belongs to our father's pride and that the share will actually go up like flash if we defend? This is a Datasonic forum, when there are negatives, I am pretty sure these little statement too won't bring down the price. But my question always to myself is, what if they were right? We call people wise when they praise Datasonic, we then start to call people a waste of time when they tell us the bad things about Datasonic. Are we investors or defenders? Investors does not fight back with people who tells you the negatives because we know it won't change anything. I've gotten some flame here and there from people who once praised me as wise and then call me ridiculous because I start to say mention the bad part of Datasonic. It is funny, so wise is when I side you and stupid is when I don't.

I too here holds quite a substantial share, and I've lost by far 6 figures by now on papers. Saying bad things about them is not good news for me. But I do not want to deny reality, I invest based on the truth, not dreams and lies. I buy shares after I know a company, management and potential. I know the people who's really behind the show, the politician involved. I bought it because of that. I still insist, I do not buy it because I think the management are top of the class smart business people. They are not business people. I want the share to go up so I could start buying everyone I see lunch and dinner. But reality is, I am still losing money as of now. So why not stop arguing, if there's good news, take it, if there's bad news, take it, rather than say...you're bull la, you're destructive la, you're lousy or stupid la. Unless that's going to help the share boost up like jet, then please prove to me so, I will aggressively insult the negatives.

What I say does not exist in very company. Maybe in every company tht has lousy boss yes, that's why there are only so many history maker. Try not to do personal attack on me if you can, I did not discredit you winterwolf nor do I discredit anyone. Just because people's opinion I different from yours doesn't make them wrong or bad. Learn to take it as an adult. If every criticism of the company or directors require them to defend themselves, newspapers, critics, magazines should be shut down. This is not a court. Anyways the companies performance will prove who is right or wrong about the management. Currently, it's proving you not so right. I stand firm in saying the management does not have any inside. I hope the stock price prove me wrong.