be fair with the newbies if you do not know much valuation

earning yield only around 6% follow magic formula isn't it not overvalue?
if you buy or sell less than 50 lots is still if more than 100 lots then you know what is called illiquid
3.2 billion order book? what the use if the profit margin is low . that show the company is not prudent to select project and end up losing more money with more project. hahaha.....

current price already overvalue, earning is more than 16 the EV
very illiquid trading, hard to buy and hard to sell as more than 70% held by temasek, big fund not interested , retailer play is clearly visible
net cash with good dividend but profit margin is low around 6%
with current sentiment, there are plenty cheap sale around .

kopipeng 还理智，TKP1 太沉迷了。。。。。

給你一条香蕉 回回神。 哈哈哈。。。。

来来去去只有你俩，陶醉在咸鱼望翻生， 来条香蕉等春风吧。。。。。

自我陶醉。。。。。。

新手莫跟。。。。

hahahaha....

说得好。。。。。。

捨老马取咸鱼， 等他翻生。

说得好，说得好。。。。

哈哈哈。。。。。。。

buy gadang, consistent and improving earning , well diversified business, most undervalue in the construction sector,

咸鱼翻生 ？？？？？

天堂有路你不走，地狱无门闯进来

with this market sentiment , it is better to accumulate below 0.6,

2.8% dividend yield is still better than bank sa.

anyway better than those penny stock with no dividend

very simple business model with ever increasing recurring income

consistent earning definitely no make up for goreng

do not be emotional

if you do not see the light then prepare for the darkness

I am ok,

down I already earned 70%,

up I still got 30%

once pecah 25 nanti,

23 is the support

now is not the time to buy

it is sell or hold

the best is to reduce

I love money, I sold 70% (TP 28) keep 30% (TP 35)

Do not be greedy always prepare for the worst if there is uncertainty.

put yourself in the position to win either way

OTB,

thank you for your clarification and useful advice

I got to irritate you because some are getting too emotional already
esp awesome, I do not know he is your student. his overconfident could have misled the newbies

I hope you can judge in my posting there is no intention to bad mouth you . it is just a word of caution to them to play safe

do not think there are still many sifu holding tight

all have already long disappeared

real sifu do not like too much uncertainties one

Awesome,

if you want OTB to guide you , then be his client

there is no free lunch in this world

there are many cries no tear in this world

what I actually want to tell you is a very simple fact

In share trading never trust anybody ,including me

do your own homework and make your own decision

FA is still a must for long term holder

TP is just to assess you MOS not for you to believe

sold 70% keep 30%

Awesome,

I told you already, I sold 50 % keep 30%

wait for their next buy back , we follow their price, if you want to hold more

the previous share back is 0.175, to protect the major shareholders interest, do not hope for share buy back to jack up the price

OTB,

please bear in mind , many of us hold tight and top up more because they trust you

you have no obligation to help us,

but can you reveal just a little,

are you still holding tight, or .....

Awesome,

sorry to say, you are too emotional

please be more rational

you can win big

but you have equal chance to lose big

I still have 30% in the market

I also hope thing will turn out as you have wished

best thing to do now is to keep 50% ,

then decide what to do, when the picture is clear

do scare to sell low at 0.26

do not scare to buy high at 0.3

crawler,


I am just sharing my view here

check OTB previous posts here, then you know , I do not simply tembak,

he has no obligation to save you, you are not his client

one simple question.

that man is the soul of this company, he turned around the company from previous loss

why he want to leave the company

why he wants to sell at 0.188 but can get 0.27 in the open market

so many questions can not be answered and beyond our imagination

why should we expose ourselves to risk, not a good risk

if you do not want to save yourself now

are you waiting for OTB and his subscribers to save you

ystock,

your figure is too weak to command a long term hold

you are a good man

do not play all in here , since there are so many questions unanswerable

I believe OTB must have quietly sold some to lock in profit at 0.28

Do not be that naïve to believe he will hold till 0.32

that is my wild guessing, just a guessing based on common sense, nothing right or wrong

main actor already out,

big profit contributor already ended ,

is it too risky still to keep all in or top up more

I already sold 70% at still q 30% @ 0.28

switch to favco, sure no regret

I am doing a test, how it is true , when one said he can accept the difference.

I am glad to hear you are ok.

macam betul tapi tak berapa faham, talk like expert but nothing new to learn

why nowadays, people like to beat around the bush, why they just can not put the fact across directly, yet there are still many say good writing

please lah...

please speak like LKY, do not make simple fact difficult, what you want is everybody can understand what you want to say

OTB is good, at least we understand what he says , what he wants

KC also good , we understand his theory

kiasutrader, please improve your presentation.

sorry to have been spoken that frankly here

I total FA no TA

OTB also FA assisted by TA.

No right to say TA assisted by FA

Please do not make it so confusing

Or explain in detail how if otherwise

If not , don't play your cari makan trick here

Am I wrong?

Please kindly enlighten me

Don't just flag

What I said is good for both Sifu to

reflect on their own self

With their skill and knowledge need not have to

cari makan here. They can win big money and respect

in share market. No problem . I believe they can.

FA and TA are not difficult to learn and use
Self ego is more difficult to subside
Both so called Sifu KC and OTB please beware
From the recent debate or argument we common investors
had learnt nothing but seeing two super gurus slaughtering
each other.
Your behaviour has told there is not real Sifu but
there is egoistic Sifu. Shame on you. Both of you.

Why simple thing make it so complicated.
TA and FA are two different things complementing each other in an efficient trading. TA without FA is not much better than a trading with luck. FA without TA is no doubt a safe play but must have the patience to wait. Which one you emphasise more depend on what sort of people you are. Some like to walk slowly and arrive at the destination with less risk. Some like to walk fast but higher risk of falling down.I prefer FA more than TA.
That's why I only know KC is a good enough in fact more than enough Sifu for my trading. So far I have no problem to achieve more than 20 % capital gain with more than bank dividend as bonus.

KC

carry on with your good work

though I am not your student but I learnt a lot from your writing

likewise for most of the readers.

today your good works have paid you,

at least we can see KIASUTRADER and OTB are not arguing the fact you are trying hard to point out about borrowing

kasihan KC,

people do not use data to compare which one is more efficient in generating cash, people non stop hentam you on borrowing

my good friends, kiasutader and OTB

I pisang goring people also can see you bull-shit here

KC:
"Scientex borrowed a total of RM340m, in comparison with the RM410m of V.S. Its debt is about 50% of its equity, in comparison to 64% of V.S. Not much difference and it is alright for both companies, no problem at all if the companies have enough cash flow to service their debt. Here are the differences.

In 2014, Scientex produces a net profit of RM151m and CFFO of RM153m compared to V.S net profit of RM46.6m and CFFO of RM46.4m. Scientex CFFO is 27 times and earnings 21 times its interest payment, whereas V.S CFFO is only 6 times and earnings 4 times its interest payment, taking interest for V.S as the average of the last three years. This has not taken into consideration that in the last three years, V.S has to spend 85% of their net operating profit after tax for capital expenses compared to 53% of Scientex."


OTB:

"Let us look at VS, the EPS is 0.491, the interest rate charged by the bank is around 6%. It is nothing wrong to borrow at the rate of 6% to generate an income of 49%."

base on my pisang understanding, KC did not say loan no good
he just want to tell us VS is far less efficient compare to Scientx in the employment of loan.

Right?

But I am a bit tak faham, how OTB can come out with another a set of data that looks quite good also. how about compare with scientx at the same period, may be we, mostly pisang knowledge people, can see the picture clearer.

we rather play than to invest in one future look good company but no guarantee, we better invest in scientx which is safer, as least from the data it looks safer.

Right?

thank you

according to my goring pisang experience, tomorrow is Friday

Friday is a FLY day for Frontkn !!!!!!!!


do not miss the show.

this forum is very interesting

so many feel hopeless but still holding tight

but I feel hopeful and hold tight

any different ?

no

then why susah susah sangat?

hahahaha......

what a big deal?

market is a game of patience

satay calm and steady is right

you predict it can move up

everybody predict it can move up

but the big boys say " WAIT "

normal , it is normal

just go and watch TV

then you will gain

you want to invest in frontkn

you must do like me

calm and steady

share your love

share your heart

turn your enemy into friend

restore peace and harmony here

the fortune comes

let it grows, fast or slow

hope nothing, no disappointment

fear not , aim right

do not think of the gain , do not think of the loss

that is real self


hahahaha....

bye bye

frontkn is an big elephant

how can you expect a big elephant run like a cheetah

go an d watch TV lah,

do not hope for something that can't happen

you can only see the difference after a period of time

how can you expect a small calf turn into a big lembu tomorrow

do not be greedy, if you are young , you still have a lot of time to win, if you are old, why you need to win so much.
the next world do not use RM

funny ,funny.....

sampai gaduh lagi

aiyah.......

lyncole,

go and watch TV

after 4.30 come to see it holds steady

now is the contra kaki kena forced selling

there are more to come


after 4.30 it will go back 285

interesting.

blackul66

this situation will remain at least for a week

if you do not intend to sell, just go for holiday for 1 week, do not bring your phone alone , or bring an outdated phone with no wifi access, when you come back, you will not believe your eyes, you need your girl friend to help you to tell you the price, you can't believe it can go that high.

hahahaha..........

don't believe, don't like sweet dream, then keep torturing yourself here.....

pitiful contra kaki giving to the buyers

after this round, smooth sail ahead

that is not monkey show,

we have leant a lot from them

the quarrel is real but both are wise

they manage to mend the damage after quarrel

not many of us has this skill or mentality

that's why both of them are that successful

good