new high
anyone who bot earlier make money.

but this is only the beginning of the journey.

would those who spread fake news apologise?

real funny panic selling.

bought at low $ 1.04

risk reward favors buy.

tomorrow how?

tomorrow will not die yet......lol.

E & O may be more boring
IWC may be more exciting.

but in long term , EO will deliver
IWC is exciting and political , but will not deliver.

Lim Kang Hoo sold 20% of Duke to EPF so market knows true value of Duke
Terry sold 20% of STP to KWAP so market knows true value of STP

will bite or not?

takes a few years nevertheless

but stock market, we never know for sure the timing.....but long term surely good.

I don't have

luxurious beach side bungalows.

If you can imagine, you can get one.

negativity eats you up.
you become a zombie, charles.

super investor needs a bit of zest.
positivity.
even optimist

like charles then no hope already.

I just stating facts. Not predicting the future.

can't find any thing better than a has been? DRB, I mean, not the guy.

charles,

you don't seem to understand......

great people attract each other and gets repulsed by little men and frogs.

The only way to eliminate risk is to stay away.

But this much I know.

E & O will eventually succeed but IWC is hype.

This one really got sea view whereas IWC is not what they want you to think.

IJM became $ 12 billion company because of their reclaimations in Penang.

You are also negative about stuffs you don't know, don't understand. too big for for you.

How would a frog know about the soaring eagle?

Charles the frog.

charles

you know there are people like you in this world?. They always end up in failures.

Know why? because you are so full with negativity.

UMWOG can make a lot of money but must have long term perspective and let PNB/ Petronas do their magic.

EG...looks like a good one from risk reward perspective anf from technical perspective.

Fundamentally, it looks like a smaller version of VS but VS gets all the attention but EG none...why is that so?

Jaks I make a lot of money
It pays to be close to the market maker

some call it chicken years.

2017 bull like 1993.

Both are cock years.

During bull, even donkeys become Gods
But no skin no win even during bulls.

and of course forever skeptical like Charles, forever no win.

In an efficient market , it should be indifferent whether it is c1, c2, c3 or c4.

Its an interplay between low premiums, high gearings and long periods.

Depends what you want.

In an inefficient market, sometimes you can have lower premiums even for different call warrants with the same period and gearing even for the same stock.

The evolution of the real Warren Buffet into buyer of Apple and Airlines shows you there is no permanent rules.

everyone selling stocks they don't have.

when I first joined, this forum is dominated by people teaching, applying and using 20 formulas and valuation methods all based on historical data....and proud to have made millions , worth millions. A generation of number crunchers.

As if investing is so simple, that when I point that out, I became a fake accountant.

It is easy to see that the more rules, the more strict the rules, the higher the likelihood the whole portfolio will be full of stocks of the same characteristics.

FA and TA are tools. These are not guarantors of success. But sometimes presented as magic wards that will turn poor people to rich people ...what rubbish.

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high gearing in toll roads and IPP business is fine.
high gearing in manufacturing is asking for trouble.

calvin is ok

Calvin is an estate agent and we all know what to expect.

hard assets is what calvin wants.

hard assets is fine...except no one has infinite lifes and infinite capital and infinite patience.

I see you have done well for yourself.

Here is another very good article.....

HONG Kong-based Value Partners Group chairman and co-chief investment officer Datuk Seri Cheah Cheng Hye, also known as the Warren Buffett of Asia, is a former Star journalist who becomes one of the most influential fund managers in Asia.

http://klse.i3investor.com/blogs/moneymoney/119599.jsp


extracts

"So you believe more in quantitative methods when buying stocks?

No, although we also use that for ourselves. Remember what I said about our formula for investing?

Its based on the 3Rs. The right business, the right people and the right price. The most difficult R is the right human being."



When I first join i3 last year, this forum is dominated by OTB and KC and their quantitative formulas and ratios....hardly any discussions on business and people.

But this forum also have great bloggers such wealth wizard and bones......their writings are easy to read, and addresses business, people and numbers with equal competence.


As Datuk Sri Cheah says, numbers are the easiest, it is all in front of you....but all his mistakes comes from misreading the people.

Actis (commonly known as Actis) is a multi asset emerging market investor. It has a growing portfolio of investments across Asia, Africa and Latin America and US$7.6bn funds under management. Applying developed market disciplines to emerging markets, an established team of c. 100 investment professionals in ten countries identify investment opportunities in private equity, energy and real estate.

any sell down is scary

but crisis is also opportunity.

your call.

don't talk so fast.
actually I am confident I will make money out of this.


Kjsiah > Mar 31, 2017 03:42 PM | Report Abuse

All the good ppl tried to help warn but no one wants to listen

chai

why are idiots so stupid?

chai


how many shares can i3 take?

stop dreaming.

Penang land not better than Johor land?

some just want to sell when there is high volume

based on rnav of $ 6.00 which I believe is some where there...

$ 2.00 is actually 70% discount
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50% level close to 1.925

no, it is not pump and dump

it is dump by some long time shareholders.

all an illusion

stock market is an illusion.

good and bad,
high and low
cheap and expensive

all an illusion.

E&O directors copy Ekovest and IWC formula.....sure can do .....
E&O directors also got Sime Darby advisers.

why cannot do?, just copy and paste.




d by greatful > Mar 31, 2017 02:00 PM | Report Abuse

cannot means cannot, may be conflicts of bazi. xD

some times short term random....but longer term ok

Johor land and IWC did well
why not E&O and Penang land?


sted by greatful > Mar 31, 2017 01:47 PM | Report Abuse

Ekovest and EPF succeeded
why not E&O and KWAP?
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share market do better if no call warrants ever issued.

revised RNAV is $ 6.00 per share...MIDF report with calculations.

Why Penang land not better than Johor land ( IWCITY )?

this guy can move market one.

substantial shareholders selling, not directors.

just don't know when they will finish the selling.

Ekovest and EPF succeeded

why not E&O and KWAP?

I am buying, don't care.

must have some equity.

beary


you are right.

I know what I am doing

smart guy
smarter than bear


Grow1 > Mar 31, 2017 11:15 AM | Report Abuse

Focus on making money not otherwise (wasting one's life)...

Bear in mind that BIG investors THINK DIFFERENTLY (that's why they are rich and successful). One cannot use their NORMAL THINKING (most of the time too emotional & irrational) to assess and interpret the investment made by the BIG investor...because NORMAL people do not fully understand their strategy.

The sooner one can learn from the successful people and move themselves to a higher level of thinking, the more successful they can be. Well, the most difficult part is to realise and admit that one is not as good as the successful people (ego gets in the way)...Resistance to change for better...

call warrants are killing the market.

shares have great difficulties going up when so many call warrants are issued.


ban call warrants.