can you please explain the term "system" as stated by you ? I don't quite understand.
For me, I blamed it on the integrity of the management.

very well said. so in future we have to remember .we can not trust the China companies. All the more , we can not trust the investment bank officers, They work hand in hand , with these companies to con us. Just go to any of the investment banks. you would see most of them driving flashy cars. WHERE ARE THE MONEY from.

And a young chicoo,a friend of both , came out to be a middleman. Bingo...... Everything solved ... Only fools will believe that you do not want "sailang" the stocks you promoted in the first place...... Haha ... Happy Trading, market going to open soon but be very aware of the crocodiles. Good luck.

are you sure ? dont be naive. Its all stage play, I promote to buy, you quietly sell . Haha , when situation get tough , you both pretend to quarrel .. This is known as reverse psychology. Please lah .... Just think deeper , will two gentlemen , highly educated,matured be quarreling in public. Haha... Not only that they took pains to write articles over the issue. Why the need to do that ,in the first place ? you think.

Apa ini seniwara sahaja lah ,,,, After making prenty of money form the market .... Haha , ingat orang bodoh Ke ,,, haha

this is what i precisely mean to say. Do your own judgement, in a zero sum game . how can they sincerely want you to win? if you win. it will be his loss . Most of times , when they recomend you tobuy , they have already loaded the counter.The want you to participate , creat demand, so that they can unload.Never never listen to them. Do your own homework. haha,,, happy trading but be aware of the crocodile pitch. Not many can survive. I am very suprised at certain self proclaimed sifus who advocate to newbies to transfer with funds from margin. to me , I think is very unethical.Its a trap. Especially when he recommended you to buy a certain stocks

KLSE is a crocodiles pitch... there are traps everywhere. If you want to get, do not complain .you must accept the fact that it is a zero sum game. Only the smartest and the cunniest will you. You may read their views to find a suitable stock but do not follow blindly. Men are born greedy, THERE IS NO FREE LUNCH in the markt especially in this game. The strong one and cunny one will after picking a stock . He will study deligently in all respect... Fa and ta both included. depending on risk appetite. He will trade both long and short. In regard to long, he will invested in the growth stock and wait for it mature . He may have some insiders to the company. He wait and wait for the results to come .... Wow fantastic reults, Then he promote . while he is promoting, he is selling at the same time. And all those innocent followers believing his analysis,jump in quickly ... while open up his mouth big like a crocodile , he will ask his brokers to buy on his account, The brokers have many clients , they will tip their clients to buy .. For the first day he promoted, you made a few cents. Before long , he unloaded all. By the time he unloaded, the price of the shares crashed... But still the company is fundamentally sound. After the crashed and the weak on lost their money.If they are trading on margin. Ther will be a margin call.... Haha , forced selling.. Who is waiting to buy back , the strong one . So the moral of the story is you should not believe what they write. To gain your confidence, he will at times give your a genuine report...... The fact of the matter , it could be a SENIWARA. using the other party to sell for me and claim that he does know.. This is a tactics that many seasoned players do when they give you a tips. Haha ini semua SENIWARA ,,