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29 comment(s). Last comment by VenFx 2016-01-25 19:07

Vc Looi

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Posted by Vc Looi > 2016-01-24 08:58 | Report Abuse

油價是否探底是個問題,但是另一個問題卻鮮少人問就是要在底部多久?

davidkkw79

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Posted by davidkkw79 > 2016-01-24 09:41 | Report Abuse

技术分析就技术分析,与杠杆有什么关系?

Tom

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Posted by Tom > 2016-01-24 11:44 | Report Abuse

只要原油存库持续上升,全球供应大过需求。。。。MACD与Stochastic的指标都是在放屁。。。。

Ntpboon

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Posted by Ntpboon > 2016-01-24 11:53 | Report Abuse

“油气股是否已跌到底,主要取决于国际油价。”
请问国际油价是由谁制定?

orlandooil

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Posted by orlandooil > 2016-01-24 16:03 | Report Abuse

I think d oil stored by China Japan n others can satisfy their consumption
for 2 to 3 years even if ths countries stopped importing for a long time so how can d prices go up?

gray

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Posted by gray > 2016-01-24 16:09 | Report Abuse

China has no place to store oil even if oil is given free. The oil is even stored in oil tanker floating in sea.
When oil price recover. They may want to sell it to stop paying storage fee.

Under this kind of scenerio. To claim oil is bottom is as good as pointing to an egg to say its a chicken.

gray

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Posted by gray > 2016-01-24 16:11 | Report Abuse

Oil at 30. Everyone says its too cheap. In the yr 2000. Oil has been hoveri g at usd 10. Nobody i knew said its cheap.

orlandooil

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Posted by orlandooil > 2016-01-24 16:13 | Report Abuse

China certainly have storage space for oil and not necessarily in China but in other countries

China may jz buy local Shell Refinery n turn it into storage space

gray

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Posted by gray > 2016-01-24 16:17 | Report Abuse

China has been buying oil at 60. Which they now realised it has been a mistake n foolish act. They assume oil would quick rebound.
In many places. Oil are sold in black mkt at 15 a barrel.

gray

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Posted by gray > 2016-01-24 16:23 | Report Abuse

Personally i feel oil wil b below 20 in yrs to come. Endless skl shouting oil wil rebound since 80. Only to see it 26. Everytime it stage a tech rebound. The same group of shameless skl jump out to proclaim oil has bottom.
A true bottom wil only b found when those skl turn bearish on every tech rebound.

As long as oil is below 60. What u see r mostly tech rebound with huge hedge fund moving up n down short term price.

Koon Bee

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Posted by Koon Bee > 2016-01-24 16:25 | Report Abuse

My prediction will fall below 10

Koon Bee

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Posted by Koon Bee > 2016-01-24 16:26 | Report Abuse

70% of our o&g company will bankrupt

gray

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Posted by gray > 2016-01-24 16:28 | Report Abuse

Why would petronas want to cut 10% staff if they think oil has bottom?
You mean ppl in the street n i3 sifu know more abt oil mkt than petronas?

Koon Bee

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Posted by Koon Bee > 2016-01-24 16:28 | Report Abuse

My friend working in o&g company stay at home without any contract since september 2015

Koon Bee

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Posted by Koon Bee > 2016-01-24 16:31 | Report Abuse

Previously my friend earning usd 15k to 25k a month...now 6 month sit at home with less than rm3k allowance a month...and he will receive a terminate of appointment letter anytime

Posted by tengkuleesal > 2016-01-24 16:33 | Report Abuse

BSN freezes all loans to O&G staffs....they must have very good reasons to take such an action!!

Koon Bee

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Posted by Koon Bee > 2016-01-24 16:34 | Report Abuse

Yes..not only BSN..i believe other bank do the same but keep as internal policy not like bsn do annoucement to public

gray

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Posted by gray > 2016-01-24 16:35 | Report Abuse

Banks has frozen loan to o&g staff. Irregardless of company. They knew the oil ind is going for prolong consolidation.
So what if oil return to 60.
Petronas is still struggling to break even while others depend on petronas would b dead.

The deadly oil n gas corp finance that assume oil price forever 100 is the killer. Almost irreversible.

gray

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Posted by gray > 2016-01-24 16:38 | Report Abuse

If i remember correctly. 2 months ago petronas said no retrenchment. 4 months ago yhey said committed to all capex.

They must have knew something big wok to suddely make a reversal in policy.

gray

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Posted by gray > 2016-01-24 16:41 | Report Abuse

I m sure when oil recover another few days many will come here attack say wrong prediction bla bla.
You have been told its not a 1 or 2 weeks prediction but longterm prediction.

Posted by tengkuleesal > 2016-01-24 16:48 | Report Abuse

ever wonder why WB is accumulating oil refiner Philip now if oil is really bottoming out?....knowing that oil going up wont be good for refining business! So,I suppose WB is expecting oil price to drop further...

gray

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Posted by gray > 2016-01-24 16:50 | Report Abuse

U r rite. If he think oil has bottom he would buy oil diggers.

gray

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Posted by gray > 2016-01-24 16:54 | Report Abuse

World has not officially entered recession how can u see oil bottom? Such simple logic an apes also can reason out. Why cant human???

F22Raptor

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Posted by F22Raptor > 2016-01-24 17:04 |

Post removed.Why?

goreng_kaki

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Posted by goreng_kaki > 2016-01-24 20:04 | Report Abuse

oil price bounced back to 32 usd already

PlsGiveBonus

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Posted by PlsGiveBonus > 2016-01-24 20:06 | Report Abuse

Oil shorter bleeding hard all the way to the bank

Posted by Ahbeng Beng > 2016-01-25 18:45 | Report Abuse

矛盾,明明说没有人会懂未来油价,然后说杠杆他人知识。。。难道他人就懂油价?如果他人不懂,那么杠杆出来的知识就是屁。看看就知道是看图说故事,如果油价低得久,你看的那几家公司就会倒闭。现在只是对低油价consolidate, 市场还是认为会很快反弹。如果油价没有足够反弹,你就是追高买股,准备得到教训。

Posted by Ahbeng Beng > 2016-01-25 18:50 | Report Abuse

要懂油价不是没有方法, 你需要懂中东人尤其是沙地人的心理,和中东回教不同教派之间的博弈。油价几时会反弹,要看你读对方的心理多准确,读读这篇文章,让你懂懂油价是什么回事。 http://seekingalpha.com/article/3821096-hello-name-saudi-arabia-care

VenFx

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Posted by VenFx > 2016-01-25 19:07 | Report Abuse

CASH FLOW THAT DECIDE who will stand untill the storm passed.

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