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duitKWSPkita

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Posted by duitKWSPkita > 2016-07-28 23:50 | Report Abuse

Dear Reader,

The article is for market freshy who looking for fundamental info of short selling activity.
All mentioned in the article is just a randomly picked example. of course Big short selling volume harvest bigger & faster gain.

Happy reading

VenFx

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Posted by VenFx > 2016-07-28 23:54 | Report Abuse

How to best avoid from this kind of the Short Selling activity, is that the damages can be terrifying ?

duitKWSPkita

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Posted by duitKWSPkita > 2016-07-28 23:56 | Report Abuse

Problem is pump & dump is for players to quit the game while short selling is much more better because the share price will goes up eventually.

FGV is the best example!

VenFx

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Posted by VenFx > 2016-07-29 00:01 | Report Abuse

So, Spring Gallery Berhad is pump for Dump later.

VenFx

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Posted by VenFx > 2016-07-29 00:03 | Report Abuse

Usually, I ll jump miles away from this kind of company.
Unless there is huge potential in it waited to be explode .

duitKWSPkita

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Posted by duitKWSPkita > 2016-07-29 00:06 | Report Abuse

VenFx sifu...

click n check my article again...added new source....ngeh ngeh ngeh

got one fella..

Jump into SGB then collapse
jump into Comcorp then collapse
Jump into put warrant collapse
Jump into Parkson also collapse
Jump into call warrant also collapse
Jump into THHEAVY today also kena sell off

VenFx

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Posted by VenFx > 2016-07-29 00:13 | Report Abuse

Apparently, we know that fella.
Never learn one.

duitKWSPkita

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Posted by duitKWSPkita > 2016-07-29 00:15 | Report Abuse

Kasihan betul

Sungguh kesian

Actually today early morning I did persuade him to dispose all. He lagi lure me to follow him in. I really confused...

VenFx

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Posted by VenFx > 2016-07-29 00:16 | Report Abuse

Very nice scenery, 河兰 村 。
Feel relik juz by seeing.
Hopefully, I'll get a change to Holland 村。

duitKWSPkita

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Posted by duitKWSPkita > 2016-07-29 00:18 | Report Abuse

Every time back Netherlands also have pretty mood.

There I enjoy my retiring life.. Ohh no I'm 32 yrs old only should work harder but not shake leg lo...

Ok. Will post more Holland pic when free.

VenFx

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Posted by VenFx > 2016-07-29 00:19 | Report Abuse

I see the R.e. thingy .风車 。kikiki
Malaysia got Solar panel & Syngas plant 就是 没有 风車。

duitKWSPkita

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Posted by duitKWSPkita > 2016-07-29 00:20 | Report Abuse

VenFx sifu

So the article so simple n newbie will understand rite? If I can understand I believe all also can understand

VenFx

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Posted by VenFx > 2016-07-29 00:22 | Report Abuse

I do hope he will make periodically review over every investment decisions made.
By doing that, he might know his decision has spoilt the purpose of why he start invest in Bursa ...
Hope he see my message.

VenFx

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Posted by VenFx > 2016-07-29 00:24 | Report Abuse

Yup.. it's good educational material for me and that fella... :)

VenFx

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Posted by VenFx > 2016-07-29 00:26 | Report Abuse

I believe he is a nice guy.
Juz not dare to admit his mistake in his investment decisions made, of which can bring him great damages.

duitKWSPkita

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Posted by duitKWSPkita > 2016-07-29 00:26 | Report Abuse

No.

With his standard its very unlikely he will succeed it.

I hope he meet up one person that can lead him to proper direction.
耳朵太轻了。。。看像他容易被牵着走。 人格和笔画以及喜神他都要重新被指点。 他在四年里还不会遇到他的高人(恩人)。 再期待吧

news

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Posted by news > 2016-07-29 00:29 | Report Abuse

Is short selling activity only limited to those counters with short sell indicator ?

duitKWSPkita

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Posted by duitKWSPkita > 2016-07-29 00:30 | Report Abuse

当可造之材不能造时,又或变不到材时,我们直求可望之相。

但一切都没出现时,可能就是在等时机

VenFx

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Posted by VenFx > 2016-07-29 00:30 | Report Abuse

随缘 吧, 能做的 都做 了。
看他 的 领唔 快 或 慢 吧了。
我也 不是 好 导师

duitKWSPkita

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Posted by duitKWSPkita > 2016-07-29 00:36 | Report Abuse

不是每个人都有开窍的慧根。。。。

很多时候都是环境逼人。。。我从小就经历很煎熬的生活,所以生活技能和适应能力都强一些。。

VenFx

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Posted by VenFx > 2016-07-29 00:36 | Report Abuse

Short sell can be through Borrow tickets from major shareholders. (The lender)
Usually, after selling for cashing out , the share will bounce back to the level it deserved.

A dump for pump is totally different scenario, after jiaow cho will disappear and the share price will sleep straight straight like salted fish ; eg. Sgb & etc.

duitKWSPkita

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Posted by duitKWSPkita > 2016-07-29 00:38 | Report Abuse

News.

By regulation yes. Only those with indicator in profile.

However, we have many creative way to perform short covering .... Still will make gain

VenFx

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Posted by VenFx > 2016-07-29 00:39 | Report Abuse

Duit bro 是不是 连俄相 都会看。 佩服

duitKWSPkita

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Posted by duitKWSPkita > 2016-07-29 00:39 | Report Abuse

Hahaha...

Don't listen me. Nonsense only

VenFx

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Posted by VenFx > 2016-07-29 00:41 | Report Abuse

钱兄 可是 智慧 者 啊。

VenFx

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Posted by VenFx > 2016-07-29 00:42 | Report Abuse

He he , nice to get to know u .

duitKWSPkita

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Posted by duitKWSPkita > 2016-07-29 00:42 | Report Abuse

Hahaha....

哎呀。。。。此话严重。。。不好说

duitKWSPkita

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Posted by duitKWSPkita > 2016-07-29 00:43 | Report Abuse

Me too. Nice to discuss with you. I learn a lot from u too bro....

Lets grow together

VenFx

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Posted by VenFx > 2016-07-29 00:44 | Report Abuse

钱 大哥, 帮帮我 看看 我 这幅 猴相, 哈哈哈。

duitKWSPkita

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Posted by duitKWSPkita > 2016-07-29 00:45 | Report Abuse

讲笑而已啦。。。我不会的。。。

VenFx

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Posted by VenFx > 2016-07-29 00:46 | Report Abuse

是不是 有 OBAMA 的 风范 ?

VenFx

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Posted by VenFx > 2016-07-29 00:47 | Report Abuse

好啦 明天 再聊。
晚安 了 钱大哥。

duitKWSPkita

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Posted by duitKWSPkita > 2016-07-29 00:49 | Report Abuse

Good night. I busy my things first...

VenFx

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Posted by VenFx > 2016-07-29 00:51 | Report Abuse

:)

LGMGL

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Posted by LGMGL > 2016-07-29 07:30 | Report Abuse

Thanks 钱大哥.

duitKWSPkita

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Posted by duitKWSPkita > 2016-07-29 07:33 | Report Abuse

我只是小小小人物而已。。
不要用大哥啦。。。。。。

LGMGL

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Posted by LGMGL > 2016-07-29 07:39 | Report Abuse

钱大哥..
Can teach me smtg..?
If the price up & short seller not enough money to buy back the shares, then lender hv to "makan sendiri"..?
:)

duitKWSPkita

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Posted by duitKWSPkita > 2016-07-29 07:57 | Report Abuse

No.

They will buy then they will lose money.

That's why 江湖上有弱和强的庄家,一定要跟有力的庄家

LGMGL

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Posted by LGMGL > 2016-07-29 07:59 | Report Abuse

TQ duit... always can learn things from ur comment. :)

duitKWSPkita

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Posted by duitKWSPkita > 2016-07-29 08:01 | Report Abuse

Hahahha.

Are u serious?

news

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Posted by news > 2016-07-29 08:08 | Report Abuse

Thanks Duit, so there is no way we can avoid them.

MuttonCurry

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Posted by MuttonCurry > 2016-07-29 08:08 | Report Abuse

duit idea of financial utopia ? This is the kind of logic that lead to 1MDB mess

duitKWSPkita

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Posted by duitKWSPkita > 2016-07-29 08:11 | Report Abuse

MuttonCurry

U treat me Apam coconut milk and ButuMayam I Baru answer u... Heheheh

YiStock

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Posted by YiStock > 2016-07-29 08:41 | Report Abuse

Hi Duit, based on your explanation above,

He has 368,500 shares which when share price at RM 3.85, the total value of the shares is RM 1,418,725

After whole short sell process, the same 368,500 shares now at RM 3.58, the total total value is RM 1,319,230

RM 1,319,230 - RM 1,418,725 = - RM 99,495 + RM 15,000 (profit sharing) = loss RM 84,495

Looks like the lender become "elder son".

VenFx

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Posted by VenFx > 2016-07-29 08:47 | Report Abuse

YiStock, surprise to see u dont see the final expectation plan result from this kind of activities.

VenFx

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Posted by VenFx > 2016-07-29 08:52 | Report Abuse

Short down, they earn, share back to fairly traded level another gaun.
Usually, lender rely on a surely happening catalyst to help re- stimulate the share price.Unless some time there are string challenger show up, who manage to share the cake then lender loss.

duitKWSPkita

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Posted by duitKWSPkita > 2016-07-29 08:54 | Report Abuse

YiStock...

Thank for reply. You are very right.

I mentioned in the article Point No.2

"Short selling often occur in stock market due to the benefit below:

1)Short seller and lender make money in certain ratio (negotiable)
2)Lender believes the counter he holds will enevtually show good figure and enjoy share price appreciation
3)Stimulate the trading volume to garner market attention"

That is why Lender will only sign the agreement "if" and "only" if the counter is has potential to uptrend AND his initial buying cost is way below post short selling activity.

It's is common and involve risk. For those without share appreciation ability we could only see pump and dump......

VenFx

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Posted by VenFx > 2016-07-29 08:55 | Report Abuse

They plan for the results with some strong wild card on hand.
Sometime, its like Art or movie. Enjoy.... :)

YiStock

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Posted by YiStock > 2016-07-29 08:57 | Report Abuse

Duit, if point 2 is the key, if lender believe the counter will eventually show good figures, the share price will likely surplus RM 4 right? the paper value will be greater if not forcing (by short sell) the share price to dive. It is burn own pocket.

duitKWSPkita

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Posted by duitKWSPkita > 2016-07-29 08:59 | Report Abuse

Yistock...

This counter will deliver upbeat expectation result. PBIT will see windfall rise in next 2 quarters.....so they rilek lo..

Still remember how FGV short from high to very low. Why activity keep going on because next 2 consecutive QR is amazing result........

For value investment point of view it's not logic to realize it. I agree also.... that is why market has several streams of players.....

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