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rajachulan

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Posted by rajachulan > 2018-11-14 18:12 | Report Abuse

really qqq3??? -_-!!! I really dont want to talk about that anymore...

funnyhome will help Tong and Liu and other developer before anyone else...I have little faith that a sdn bhd businessman mission is to save the country rather than their pocket...

in fact... i still puzzle why a PM and a mof will so passionate to promote a sdn bhd scheme? didnt we have a Housing and Local Government minister to do a proper housing palnningjob for the country?

if we so depend on sdh bhd.. then Zuraida can rest...

Sslee

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Posted by Sslee > 2018-11-14 18:14 | Report Abuse

Dear all,
My memory on China:
I was promoted to Business Development Manager in 1998 accompanied the GM and MD (Major shareholder) to China to explore business opportunities in China. In the late ninety almost every month there were so call Chinese investment invitation from province, city, county or town having trade promotion in Malaysia to promote investment opportunities in China. SAB did participate in such invitations, signing MOU and collecting all the projects paper given out by them. I had to read through all the projects paper and cherry picking which project is worth investing. The memory from my childhood of China is what I heard from my late father, where China is a very poor country, people were suffering from starvation and political chaos year after year till many of its citizen had to leave China for better future over-sea.

So what is China? For the pass 2000 years, China had been the central of power and trade in Asian for the last 1800 years. The power of China reaches it peak during the Ming dynasty (1368-1644) when Admiral Cheng Ho (A Chinese Muslim) leading a gigantic fleet of ships (Their ship is ten time bigger that the Columbus ship) exploring the sea route to the outside world. (A land silk route connecting Europe through Middle East, India and central Asian had been used to reach China thousand of year ago) Their sea adventure had left their marks and influence in many countries in South East Asia, India. Middle East, Africa and now some historian even say Cheng Ho had reached the North America. Unfortunate after this unprecedented history fate, the Ming emperor feel China is the world, everything can be find in China and China do not need the outside world hence the close door policy. This started the slow decaying of once mighty China. China reached it low during the end of Qing dynasty where western power had force opened the door of china for trade under barrel of gunship. The opium war, the looting of imperial summer garden of China treasury, the curving out of special administration territory to foreign power in Shanghai, and elsewhere. (Notable Hong Kong to British and Macau to Portugal for 100 years.) The Qing dynasty finally comes to an end in 1911 by people uprising lead by Dr Sun Yat Sen.( Dr. Sun was regard as the founding Father of Republic of China by both main land China (lead by the victory Communist party chairman Mao 1949-1976) and Taiwan (lead by the loser Kuomintang general Chiang). What followed were equally tragic to China people, unable to form a unify central government China was rules by local warlords later the Japanese invasion, the word war two, the civil war, the communist rule, the experimental agriculture reformed which starve millions of Chinese to died, the failed state enterprise which spread rampant corruption among the party cadres, the Cultural Revolution political purge where millions of intellects were send to country side for hard labour and closing of school for almost ten years. Some resemblance of sense and progress finally come to China when Deng Xiao Peng (1976-1989) comes to power and started an unprecedented economy reformed which saw a very successful experimental capitalism in Shenzhen (Formally a sleeping farmland bordering Hong Kong. Now a Mega City) by the ninety China had totally embraced capitalism, socialism were long dead and communism only exist by name only.

I was in China in 1998, flying to Shanghai and taking train to Wuxi. Meeting with the then Wuxi Mayor on the jointed project to develop a 36MW Power and Thermal plant.
On our way back to KL we stopped over in Shanghai and staying in Peace hotel in Shanghai Bund. Shanghai is a beautiful city with old Western style building blending into new highway, sky scalper and etc. I were to return to Wuxi several more time for the signing ceremony, laying the first foundation ceremony, site progress meeting, opening ceremony and on visitation checking on plant performance. (Each time I fly to Shanghai you can virtually see the transformation of the city with new high rise building, new subway and highway interconnecting the blood line of the city). The power plant were manned equally with males and females staffs. We had female plant operators, technicians, forklift drivers, crane operators and etc. China provides equal opportunity for her woman as a common saying: “Woman hold up half the sky”. I would like to say to those countries where their womanhood is denial education and jobs opportunity; you are at least 50% less competitive compared to China.

Thank you

qqq3

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Posted by qqq3 > 2018-11-14 18:27 | Report Abuse

there is nothing sinister in fundmyhome.....just need to open eyes to new opportunities and innovations......

for those lucky enough to get a house this way.....its no installments, no interest costs , no rentals for 5 years , and still got 20% equity interest at end of 5 years.....and increase overall spending power for the family....will do great stuffs for the economy. No wonder Minister of Finance so excited.

Jon Choivo

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Posted by Jon Choivo > 2018-11-14 18:31 | Report Abuse

sslee,

You got go buy shanghai land and china stock when there anot.

Dont tell mee see so much, in the end never buy anything haha.

qqq3

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Posted by qqq3 > 2018-11-14 18:33 | Report Abuse

Golden Plus a Malaysian listed company supposed to be first to invest in Shanghai in 1990.....what happened? the company delisted and disappeared and people run off already.....

enning22

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Posted by enning22 > 2018-11-14 20:13 | Report Abuse

Massive national and state level debts are hang over the sky of china, one millian times worst than 1mdb, and that about to burst,thanks to US/China Trade War , so don't talk nonsense about china.

Sslee

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Posted by Sslee > 2018-11-14 20:47 | Report Abuse

Dear Jon Choivo,
I am just a fulltime employee taking minutes of the meeting and preparing reports and on many occasions had to drink (Bottom up) on behalf of my boss. It a very tire and unhealthy lifestyle. During the 90s’ what China lack was capital and when they already have access to capital they just buy back the business from you and when business failed they just told you they cannot pay you the guarantee profit and you have to face the reality and cut loss. Anyhow many oversea Chinese businessmen just take it as their obligation/contribution/duty to help develop their forefather land (China) and not profit minded.

Those have connection to the central government top leaders like Robert Kuok are the one make huge profit from property development. SAB was offered land for property development but due to uncertainty on land use right of limited years and lack of rule of clear laws regarding land ownership thus we decline the offer. During that period rule of man is the norm and you need the political connection to the top central leader in order to be successful in China. Many Malaysia businessmen who invest in China in 90s’ were considered themselves lucky if they were not losing their capital/business to their china partner/state enterprises or able to exit China with small profit the exception that I can think of is Prefect (China) Commodity Co.Ltd doing very well in China.

Thank you

qqq3

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Posted by qqq3 > 2018-11-14 21:06 | Report Abuse

enning22 Massive national and state level debts are hang over the sky of china, one millian times worst than 1mdb, and that about to burst,thanks to US/China Trade War , so don't talk nonsense about china.
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China sneezes, the rest of the world catches a cold.....but no worries, China got cure.

matkaya

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Posted by matkaya > 2018-11-14 21:32 | Report Abuse

when are you chinese patriot m o t h e r f u c k e r s leaving Malaysia. If you are constipated with the communist shit of yours then kindly leave.

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matkaya

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Posted by matkaya > 2018-11-14 21:38 | Report Abuse

Sslee
The power plant were manned equally with males and females staffs. We had female plant operators, technicians, forklift drivers, crane operators and etc. China provides equal opportunity for her woman as a common saying: “Woman hold up half the sky”. I would like to say to those countries where their womanhood is denial education and jobs opportunity; you are at least 50% less competitive compared to China.

All the above you mentioned is hard labor, show me the female leaders of your beloved china....at least under your great deng xiao peng or the sun yat sen fella...I am sure this is going to be very interesting.

matkaya

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Posted by matkaya > 2018-11-14 21:40 | Report Abuse

for someone who don't wash up after shitting...you sure do know the difference...chinese homo

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matkaya

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matkaya

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matkaya

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matkaya

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Posted by matkaya > 2018-11-14 21:57 | Report Abuse

when the country is destroyed you too go down with it, you know?
dumbwit chinese ho mo

Posted by butoamet > 2018-11-14 21:57 | Report Abuse

no assumption everyone knows your race destroyed this country

matkaya

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Posted by matkaya > 2018-11-14 21:59 | Report Abuse

no assumption...your kind introduced all the filthy business culture that made the country to what it is now

Posted by matlanjiao > 2018-11-14 22:03 | Report Abuse

i love to sleep and t a l k c o ck

qqq3

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Posted by qqq3 > 2018-11-14 22:30 | Report Abuse

tec...FANG rally is dead...go figure.

tecpower

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Posted by tecpower > 2018-11-14 22:59 | Report Abuse

Volkswagen ready to build 50 million electric cars
Read more at https://www.auto123.com/en/news/Volkswagen-ready-build-50-million-electric-vehicles/65296/#HlIMFclBGjrc06Ie.99

tecpower

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Posted by tecpower > 2018-11-14 23:00 | Report Abuse

Investing: Positive outlook for tech sector, says Franklin Templeton | http://www.klsescreener.com/v2/news/view/456844

enning22

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Posted by enning22 > 2018-11-14 23:01 | Report Abuse

@qq3,China got cure? don't be silly, massive unemplyment already happening in China,where u got the cure, this is just the beginning for the down-turning economy.existing over hanging massive debt ,make any form of cure impossible.

tecpower

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Posted by tecpower > 2018-11-14 23:24 | Report Abuse

Analysts are missing the mark on shares of Apple and FANG, Cramer says. https://www.cnbc.com/2018/11/13/cramer-analysts-are-missing-the-mark-on-shares-of-apple-and-fang.html

“The bottom line? Do not be so quick to write off Facebook, Amazon, Netflix, Alphabet [and] Apple,” Cramer said. “The Fab Five may be out of favor right now ... but there’s a lot they could do to make a comeback. I know to bet against them right here, after this decline, ... seems maybe ill-advised. In fact, it might be right to actually start — yes, I’m going to whisper — buying them.”

qqq3

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Posted by qqq3 > 2018-11-14 23:41 | Report Abuse

enning22 > Nov 14, 2018 11:01 PM | Report Abuse

@qq3,China got cure? don't be silly, massive unemplyment already happening in China,where u got the cure, this is just the beginning for the down-turning economy.existing over hanging massive debt ,make any form of cure impossible.
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your kind have been bearish on China since forever.....

qqq3

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Posted by qqq3 > 2018-11-14 23:43 | Report Abuse

cramer? I consider myself above cramer......

mmk79

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Posted by mmk79 > 2018-11-15 06:33 | Report Abuse

Good stuff to read

enning22

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Posted by enning22 > 2018-11-15 09:25 | Report Abuse

qqq3 ,like many people ,they just don't understand the real china.

rajachulan

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Posted by rajachulan > 2018-11-15 09:41 | Report Abuse

Why I said qqq3 share a nice article?

Simply put, if you get a chance to go back to 1400++/1500++ Melaka sultanate...

Simply ask any of the sultan, are they prefer to see a China Ship or Portuguese Ship at the doorstep...

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Posted by qqq3 > Nov 14, 2018 02:01 PM | Report Abuse

Jon....u want to know how China has been demonised ?

https://journal-neo.org/2018/06/17/west-is-spreading-sick-racist-anti-...

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by the way, nice article you shared qqq3...

qqq3

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Posted by qqq3 > 2018-11-15 09:46 | Report Abuse

y rajachulan > Nov 15, 2018 09:41 AM | Report Abuse

Why I said qqq3 share a nice article?

Simply put, if you get a chance to go back to 1400++/1500++ Melaka sultanate...

Simply ask any of the sultan, are they prefer to see a China Ship or Portuguese Ship at the doorstep...
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Mahathir gave the same message while in London.......

qqq3

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rajachulan

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Posted by rajachulan > 2018-11-15 10:20 | Report Abuse

Isnt this shown in the movie Angel and Demon? and I was kidding my friend back in 2012 that we may die suddenly if these European cant handle this god particle

I really hope China can handle it... I dont want to die not knowing what happen! hahahahahahaha

https://www.popularmechanics.com/science/a25101820/china-lhc-particle-...

qqq3

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Posted by qqq3 > 2018-11-15 11:06 | Report Abuse

in all areas of STEM, China will be a leader, including fundamental research....then how?

qqq3

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Posted by qqq3 > 2018-11-15 11:11 | Report Abuse

in every area of STEM, China will be number one.

qqq3

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Posted by qqq3 > 2018-11-15 11:16 | Report Abuse

in every area of STEM, China will be number one.

How does it come about?

Its all down to organisational skills and ambition....the CPP has the organisation to get it done.

rajachulan

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Posted by rajachulan > 2018-11-15 11:27 | Report Abuse

take a good care of M40 and T20... so these people can survive/progress and earn more to take care the govt and B40!

why everyday B40! B40! B40!

qqq3

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Posted by qqq3 > 2018-11-15 11:32 | Report Abuse

If Donkey Donald opens his arse & spouts shit about oil price being so called 'too high', and he does that once too often, then people are going to call him 'The boy who cried wolf', and just begin ignoring him.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eb59hRuBPTw

I HEARD YOU CRY WOLF

In America, u have a cry wolf king.

faking it, China is collapsing,

America is closed for business, closing its doors.

faking it...cry wolf.....

qqq3

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Posted by qqq3 > 2018-11-15 11:33 | Report Abuse

y rajachulan > Nov 15, 2018 11:27 AM | Report Abuse

take a good care of M40 and T20... so these people can survive/progress and earn more to take care the govt and B40!

why everyday B40! B40! B40!
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B40 is new code for bumi....but still new code better than old code, less controversial.

qqq3

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Posted by qqq3 > 2018-11-15 11:36 | Report Abuse

3 out of 10 working M'sians had to borrow money for essential goods
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good for Ah Long business.

qqq3

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Posted by qqq3 > 2018-11-15 11:37 | Report Abuse

legal Ah Loong....AeonCredit.

apolloang

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Posted by apolloang > 2018-11-15 11:38 | Report Abuse

many people queue for free essential goods in penang.mostly lost their life saving gambling or invest in bursa now have to resort to this

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