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195 comment(s). Last comment by apolloang 2018-11-15 11:38

qqq3

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Posted by qqq3 > 2018-11-13 09:31 | Report Abuse

saiyan...Fox News must be your mentor.....

hollandking

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Posted by hollandking > 2018-11-13 09:34 | Report Abuse

trump is forcing china to evolved.

hollandking

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Posted by hollandking > 2018-11-13 09:35 | Report Abuse

or I should say trump is a catalyst to china's evolution

qqq3

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Posted by qqq3 > 2018-11-13 09:55 | Report Abuse

Trump is no different than any criminal, bully and villain who ever lived.....

every thing about Trump is bad news, and nobody who ever is close to trump ever have a good ending....not his contractors, not his shareholders, not his friends, not his biographer and now as the President not his citizens...not even his wife and children.....and certainly not the citizens of the world.

speakup

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Posted by speakup > 2018-11-13 09:57 | Report Abuse

https://www.malaysiakini.com/news/451582
tidur just admit tidur lar, no big deal!
but tidur then deny tidur is far worse. THAT"S LYING!

qqq3

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Posted by qqq3 > 2018-11-13 10:09 | Report Abuse

America has a talent for entering into unwinnable wars... Iraq, Afghanistan, Vietnam,... This is just another one.

qqq3

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Posted by qqq3 > 2018-11-13 10:30 | Report Abuse

clash of civilisation?

It need not be if America is better led with more humility, more brain, not so racists......

this thing can only end with the defeat of America....there is no other way to end this.......

qqq3

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Posted by qqq3 > 2018-11-13 10:31 | Report Abuse

China is not going to kow tow...It is not in CCP DNA.

qqq3

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Posted by qqq3 > 2018-11-13 10:37 | Report Abuse

China has options....plenty of options......

The RCEP happening in Singapore is interesting from China point of view.

qqq3

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Posted by qqq3 > 2018-11-13 11:03 | Report Abuse

Clash of civilisation. Samuel Huntington.

Under Bush, it is Christians vs muslims....religion.

Under Trump, it is America vs China....pure racists.

both are unnecessary wars with unnecessary sufferings inflicted.


It need not be if America is better led with more humility, more brain, more compassion

this thing can only end with the defeat of America....there is no other way to end this.......

qqq3

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Posted by qqq3 > 2018-11-13 11:15 | Report Abuse

there are people here who are ethnically Chinese yet do not understand China.....

so embarrassing....Jon...I am talking about u.

qqq3

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Posted by qqq3 > 2018-11-13 11:17 | Report Abuse

so jon is a banana...seems to be able to write....but still, a banana....and now want to manage other people money.......lol.....

rajachulan

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Posted by rajachulan > 2018-11-13 11:26 | Report Abuse

The United States is now the largest global crude oil producer
https://www.eia.gov/todayinenergy/detail.php?id=37053

Chinese electric vehicle market is poised for explosive growth
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/09/03/china-electric-vehicle-market-is-poised-for-explosive-growth-expert.html

US will Kowtow...

The Stone Age Did Not End Because the World Ran Out of Stones, and the Oil Age Will Not End Because We Run Out of Oil

https://energypost.eu/historic-moment-saudi-arabia-sees-end-oil-age-coming-opens-valves-carbon-bubble/

this Saudi minister really hope Trump does not speed up the end of oil age! lol

qqq3

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Posted by qqq3 > 2018-11-13 11:41 | Report Abuse

US will Kowtow... yes, I am sure of it.

qqq3

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Posted by qqq3 > 2018-11-13 11:56 | Report Abuse

raja.....that is why I prefer to read about stuffs with longer lasting values (such as yours) than stuffs produced by stock market analysts whose views only extend to their own nose......cannot see further than that.

rajachulan

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Posted by rajachulan > 2018-11-13 12:12 | Report Abuse

Oops... besides oil... here is another thing

Frozen Out of China, American Farmers Refuse to Sell Their Soy

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-11-12/frozen-out-of-china-american-farmers-refuse-to-sell-their-soy

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/farmer-u-s-china-trade-war-willing-suffer-233515877.html?guccounter=1

someone please teach Amelicans to made tofu, to eat tofu over cheese, start drink soymilk over cow milk.

and leave the cheese and cow milk problem to cow farmer! lol

KLCI King

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Posted by KLCI King > 2018-11-13 16:32 | Report Abuse

Oops.... rajachulan talks quite well here

rajachulan

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Posted by rajachulan > 2018-11-13 17:08 | Report Abuse

hahahahaha... yeah I jokes a bit sometime...

rajachulan

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Posted by rajachulan > 2018-11-13 17:11 | Report Abuse

not here.. but somewhere else

Jon Choivo

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Posted by Jon Choivo > 2018-11-13 17:41 | Report Abuse

You're right. Chinese are just better and more hardworking.

But regardless, china will need to still kowtow for now.


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hollandking is a matter of time before china excel in everthing. Is very simple, massive population, probability of geniuses appearing much higher, competitive environment, big companies exist in china, funds etc. Money can buy techs. So is just a matter of time before china surpasses US almost all fields.
12/11/2018 21:50

Yyy3

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Posted by Yyy3 > 2018-11-13 17:48 | Report Abuse

China will Kowtow... yes, I am sure of it.

Posted by KLCI Going Heaven > 2018-11-13 22:15 | Report Abuse

All hail China. I said it today if you sell all your shares in Bursa and buy any shit in China market, you will become 3 to 5 times richer in the next 3 years!

Posted by KLCI Going Heaven > 2018-11-13 22:16 | Report Abuse

Kowtow your head don't be dumb China can do anything without US, if China sell of all US Treasuries now the bond yield will go so high US market will crash instantly!

qqq3

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Posted by qqq3 > 2018-11-13 22:27 | Report Abuse

lets see who copy who?....

Yyy3

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Posted by Yyy3 > 2018-11-13 22:47 | Report Abuse

so KLCI Going Heaven is a banana...seems to be able to write....but still, a banana....and now want to manage other people money.......lol.....

rajachulan

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Posted by rajachulan > 2018-11-13 23:13 | Report Abuse

if China ever kowtow... then there wont be Tianamen incident 1989... having said that...

may I add to Icon8888 article...

first US done it on Japan.. they succeeded.

second they done it on USSR... they succeeded again.

third they tried it on China 1989... they failed as China ready and willing to pay the price of losing some bright youngsters protesting in Tiananmen... please take note of this China 'culture/characther' which the ruling party/ruler are always ready to 'crash' any protest by force since 3000yrs ago.

fourth they done it on Iraq.. they succeeded again.

then on Libya and succeeded, then on Syria and succeeded.

now they wants to try it on China again.... I really dont know what makes Trump think he can succeed...

let us go back further to 1959 Tibetan uprising... which resulted the 14th Dalailama who still remain exile today...an event supported by Trump predecessor...

I not a fan of PRC... but...farther we look back the history, further we able to foresee the future...

so if PRC didnt step back in 1959 and 1989... why they will step back in 2018?

if Xijingping step back now... how is he going to rule PRC for next 20yrs?

rajachulan

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Posted by rajachulan > 2018-11-13 23:33 | Report Abuse

I quite enjoy this topic.. so I will say a little extra...

if you are interested... please do note the China and Germany relationship... .

Germany is the country who has sold the HIGHSPEED TRAIN TECHONOLOGY to China! while others like France especially Japan did not want to share the technology...and now China is helping everyone in middle east esp KSA & Africa building railway under their one way one belt policy

So.. i would say China will only give face to Russia and Germany...

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and Roberto Kuok...

so ask Trump to talk to these 3 parties if he want to close this trade war drama...

lol

qqq3

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Posted by qqq3 > 2018-11-14 02:42 | Report Abuse

easy....switch on TV, American channel , u will see a talking head predicting the collapse of China , or that China in big big trouble and about to kow tow to King Trump......

Similar propaganda has been going on forever......and now with the added incentive to sweet talk the market......

that is role of talking heads on tv.....

paperplane

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Posted by paperplane > 2018-11-14 07:03 | Report Abuse

Actually, the Americans are pure lazy and racist. China become so strong in reserve because chinese culture always preach saving, saving and savings.
American unresolved debts proven them only knowing spending and spending. Well, they got to have innovation, but their financial knowledge are pure stupid.

paperplane

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Posted by paperplane > 2018-11-14 07:04 | Report Abuse

You sxpect a nation who only knows getting cheap credit and not saving to become strong nation? Soon all central banks will change reserve on usd to china rmb

geary

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Posted by geary > 2018-11-14 11:44 | Report Abuse

Ha... Military wise probably US is slightly ahead of China...But this precious rare earth or black earth are mined in China...you all should know how useful it's...??? Economic n infrastructure wise China will overtake US very soon...it takes 100 years to build up US...But it takes only 33 years to build up whole of China. Probably infrastructure wise China is leading the way...US infrastructure are decaying n collapsing...need to rebuild to more advanced infrastructure. How fast they can rebuild with their poor mindset n habits...???

paperplane

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Posted by paperplane > 2018-11-14 13:43 | Report Abuse

wrong, China being built already over 1000 years....up and down cycle. Now China is on track to few hundred years all time boom. Study the Chinese history, some dynasty managed well can really last 200 over years. Now just beginning of the first 50 years.

Jon Choivo

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Posted by Jon Choivo > 2018-11-14 13:51 | Report Abuse

This is an incredibly simplistic, racist and biased research.

Read from here.

"Guns Germs and Steel" Jared Diamond - to find out how societies advance and why some are different from others.

The second is to study the history of credit and credit card debt, There was a point in time when americans were net savers.

And on chinese not getting in debt. You must be stupid. Many of their companies are overleveraged. Their citizens have so many microloans until burger also pay by card and got microloan for mcdonalds.

Please. Think deeper.

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Posted by paperplane > Nov 14, 2018 07:03 AM | Report Abuse

Actually, the Americans are pure lazy and racist. China become so strong in reserve because chinese culture always preach saving, saving and savings.
American unresolved debts proven them only knowing spending and spending. Well, they got to have innovation, but their financial knowledge are pure stupid.

qqq3

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Posted by qqq3 > 2018-11-14 14:01 | Report Abuse

Jon....u want to know how China has been demonised ?

https://journal-neo.org/2018/06/17/west-is-spreading-sick-racist-anti-chinese-nihilism/

The author , an unabashed leftist socialist , point out some jaring truths about the west and their ingrained biases against the Chinese.
Now as Trump attempts to disrupt/destroy China's rise ( for no other reason than it succeeding peacefully ) the western hegemonistic racism rear its ugly head again.
Every Chinese should read the article and reflect upon some inconvenient truths about the Sino-western relationship.

qqq3

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Posted by qqq3 > 2018-11-14 14:03 | Report Abuse

want to know why US got huge trade deficits? go find out why American families and American government spends more than they earn........

Junichiro

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Posted by Junichiro > 2018-11-14 14:04 | Report Abuse

The second is to study the history of credit and credit card debt, There was a point in time when americans were net savers.

But these good times of 1950s n 60s are already long gone.

Yyy3

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Posted by Yyy3 > 2018-11-14 14:06 | Report Abuse

easy....switch on TV, China channel , u will see a talking head predicting the collapse of America , or that America in big big trouble and about to kow tow to King Xi......

Similar propaganda has been going on forever......and now with the added incentive to sweet talk the market......

that is role of talking heads on tv.....

qqq3

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Posted by qqq3 > 2018-11-14 14:10 | Report Abuse

Yyy3 > Nov 14, 2018 02:06 PM | Report Abuse

easy....switch on TV, China channel , u will see a talking head predicting the collapse of America , or that America in big big trouble and about to kow tow to King Xi......

Similar propaganda has been going on forever......and now with the added incentive to sweet talk the market......

that is role of talking heads on tv.....
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that is not true....yyy3 and u know it is not true.....



I find China TV anchors very informed actually......and balanced.

Yyy3

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Posted by Yyy3 > 2018-11-14 14:11 | Report Abuse

want to know why China got huge debts deficits? go find out why China government spends more than they earn........

Junichiro

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Posted by Junichiro > 2018-11-14 14:12 | Report Abuse

US today is all abt US First policy. Put it bluntly, US today is about "Whites First " policy.

Shinnzaii

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Posted by Shinnzaii > 2018-11-14 14:13 | Report Abuse

Even media on US also not at Trump side...hehehehe

matkaya

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Posted by matkaya > 2018-11-14 14:16 | Report Abuse

'paper tiger'that's what the chinese called the ATOMIC bomb until one was detonated on Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

qqq3

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Posted by qqq3 > 2018-11-14 14:16 | Report Abuse

Shinnzaii > Nov 14, 2018 02:13 PM | Report Abuse

Even media on US also not at Trump side...hehehehe
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they are playing very sophisticated propaganda.....They are good in marketing, I give u that.......

Yesmen

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Posted by Yesmen > 2018-11-14 14:21 | Report Abuse

Last time Japan also like China...attack USA..conquer the world...kena drop atomic bomb....matikundasai...surrender to orang puteh

qqq3

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Posted by qqq3 > 2018-11-14 14:25 | Report Abuse

Yesmen > Nov 14, 2018 02:21 PM | Report Abuse

Last time Japan also like China...attack USA..conquer the world...kena drop atomic bomb....matikundasai...surrender to orang puteh
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China has secret weapon Japan did not have......

Every Fortune 500 company is addicted to China profits and the chance to make money from the largest domestic market and 1.4 billion consumers.

Yesmen

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Posted by Yesmen > 2018-11-14 14:25 | Report Abuse

Drop atomic bomb in Beijing and Shanghai...you think China still want to fight USA meh?

qqq3

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Posted by qqq3 > 2018-11-14 14:27 | Report Abuse

Yesmen > Nov 14, 2018 02:25 PM | Report Abuse

Drop atomic bomb in Beijing and Shanghai...you think China still want to fight USA meh?
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really meh?

Trump is not a fighter...Trump is a bully.... and now he finds himself a wrong victim.

Shinnzaii

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Posted by Shinnzaii > 2018-11-14 14:27 | Report Abuse

qqq3
give a thumb you...hehe...dont compare last time with now...things would be different...

Yesmen

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Posted by Yesmen > 2018-11-14 14:28 | Report Abuse

Chinese spending meh? Chinese only know how to save...where got spend?

Posted by qqq3 > Nov 14, 2018 02:25 PM | Report Abuse

hina has secret weapon Japan did not have......

Every Fortune 500 company is addicted to China profits and the chance to make money from the largest domestic market and 1.4 billion consumers.

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