To me, Hitler isn't a hero, neither are the japanese imperial army. Heros generally are refereed to good guys, and both don't fulfill that criteria to me. To someone is not hero, while to some is a hero, why? If we go back to 1940s, were the japanese imperial army hero to their ppl at that time? What about Hilter, in his early days, Hilter was a hero to Germans but in both cases, it led them to hell hole in the end. Hitler was I would say is a sick and mad man,he is intelligent too, he advocate research, high technology. So, if you want to talk about hero or not hero, you have to look at who the person is and at what time bcoz someone who is a hero to someone may changed over time and become the DEVIL, I believe this phrase have answer to some of your arguments. A hero now may not necessary be a hero later and vice versa. But generally, the world will view hitler and the Japanese imperial army as aggressor, not hero. World war II led to significant change in world order, the breaking up of the British Empire , the independence of its ex colonial states, the rise of USA as the number 1 world power and most powerful army in the world. The Bretton Woods Agreement that led to USD becoming the major currency instead of the British pound. Ever thought about the number of deaths in WWII, what if the war never happened, how would the current world population be? In the case of the jews, 2/3 of the Jews in Europe were killed. But there's a report about the consequence of the holocaust. There is this perception of the intelligence of the Jews, more intelligent on average than most BUT some suspect it could be due to the holocaust due to something like natural selection but in this case it was artificial selection but both are @ survival of the fittest case. Think about it, 2/3(6million) of the jewish population got wiped out in europe, that would have made a very significant changes to the genetic pool.
Dear i3lurker, If you read the history of China then the China Chinese had killed their own China Chinese many millions more in the name of uniting China or who has the heaven mandated to rule China.
What is the most important lesson that the kampung folks can learn from history.......
.......and not to be folled by unscrupulous opportunistic leaders who claim to be out to defend their beliefs and almight ones- which are.made believable under attack.....by above the law ppl
I think some of you your mindset, is well, this party killed 10million ppl, that killed 20million, but this party killed 5 million, so is OK??? In all cases, is NOT OK and this shouldn't be something to be debated at all, is nonsense. Or maybe you want to take into account population inflation, the population at that time vs death????? Economy of that time vs now, its size?
Learning from history, is about do you have the intelligent to summarized and reflect upon them and come to conclusion. Not many able to do it and some reading is just reading, nothing more
So learning history to most is just reading and memorizing, that's all. Are you able to combine different sources/event and link them together to come to a conclusion. How strong is your reasoning?
As for China, i can tell you, one day it will lead to massive problem, why? You just have to look at its administration system, you will see why there will be problem. Beside that, if you know history of China, you will know what is capable of
Robert Kuok talked about japanese ww2 brutality bcoz the interviewer asked him about that, why ppl ask u something, u ans something else? U want to include the mongols too?
Anyone resesarch on Bo Xilai, what he did? Go do some research and you will see how shocking it was. How many Bo Xilai are still in China? If you read about history of China, you will see that this isnt the first time ppl like Bo Xilai existed, in fact there are more and much more intelligent
Dear all, Soldiers are trained to kill or be killed, no two ways about it. The brutality of war are facts and reality. It is this uncontrol brutality that invoked human conscious of peace loving and establishment of war crime court. We are peace loving people so please give peace a chance. Respect eveyone and no hero worshiping.
We are our worst ememy if we do not learn the lesson of history.
SSLEE, I would say your argument is partially correct. Why I say so? In World War II, there were indeed ways in which Japanese commanders trained their soldiers to be killing machine. I give a example. There was an event in China, I forgotten which city the soldiers ordered by their commander to open fired on civilians, but these soldiers didnt want to or dare not, it proved there were humanity in them. But the commander chopped off one of the soldier with his samurai sword, led to panic among the soldiers and they started firing. In this case, it was indeed trained to kill. But in our case and most of the case in most countries, it isn't about killing, is about defending your territory. Do you guys think in a battlefield, soldiers don't have humanity? Some because of the harsh environment of war, led them to go crazy and lose their humanity. I read a report about a research on the diaries of the japanese soldiers diarie, they were remorsed after the war. Just to let you know during WWII, do you know what the Russian did? Some of the russian commanders gave orders, the front row who retreat will be shoot by those at the back. So nobody dare to retreat and have to keep charging on. In a battlefield, when shooting started, nobody will stop, bcoz if u stop, u get killed. That is how it works. It will only stop until one party get defeated. Just to let you know, there were good generals in the German army, who had humanity. I forgotten, there was a good german general who was very good, he was deployed to Africa but was killed on orders of Hitler , I think he was forced to commit suicide.
In war, it is really about following the orders from a command chain. The top one gave order, the bottom follow, 1 command 10, 10 command 100.... These units they only follow, they are isolated from interactions of the outside world and only 1 line of communication.
robert kuok was talking about the past based on his real life experience. Nobody questioning those 2 atomic bombs but the bombs have another side of the untold story
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To me, Hitler isn't a hero, neither are the japanese imperial army. Heros generally are refereed to good guys, and both don't fulfill that criteria to me. To someone is not hero, while to some is a hero, why? If we go back to 1940s, were the japanese imperial army hero to their ppl at that time? What about Hilter, in his early days, Hilter was a hero to Germans but in both cases, it led them to hell hole in the end. Hitler was I would say is a sick and mad man,he is intelligent too, he advocate research, high technology. So, if you want to talk about hero or not hero, you have to look at who the person is and at what time bcoz someone who is a hero to someone may changed over time and become the DEVIL, I believe this phrase have answer to some of your arguments. A hero now may not necessary be a hero later and vice versa. But generally, the world will view hitler and the Japanese imperial army as aggressor, not hero. World war II led to significant change in world order, the breaking up of the British Empire , the independence of its ex colonial states, the rise of USA as the number 1 world power and most powerful army in the world. The Bretton Woods Agreement that led to USD becoming the major currency instead of the British pound. Ever thought about the number of deaths in WWII, what if the war never happened, how would the current world population be? In the case of the jews, 2/3 of the Jews in Europe were killed. But there's a report about the consequence of the holocaust. There is this perception of the intelligence of the Jews, more intelligent on average than most BUT some suspect it could be due to the holocaust due to something like natural selection but in this case it was artificial selection but both are @ survival of the fittest case. Think about it, 2/3(6million) of the jewish population got wiped out in europe, that would have made a very significant changes to the genetic pool.