Haiyah how do you expect them to make more money from you? Now they scare the retailers so they can collect cheap, then after TG impressive QR result they will just write another analyst with their original TP of rm30.40 (before bonus issue). Simple way really
Why worry? TG order is confirmed till the next 540 days for nitrile gloves. Easily the bull run can sustain till at least for another 1.5 years. These analysts know that but they are greedy wanna collect cheap stocks from retailers like u n me
ASP cannot sustain at peak forever , ASP will back in normal one-day , Glove PAT will back to normal !! . Next week will more IB to downgrade glove , rubbish people everyday promote glove cheating newbie all in glove
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things changing from time to time....no surprises MQ update the TP in short time. in sudden, a new virus detected...then the TP need to revised again la....
Of course ASP cannot sustain at peak forever n things changing from time to time.... but don't tell me that when they issue the report on 26th August they didn't know the price will be back to normal in the distance future.
Hope more IB should come out and defend their price target. I personally feel the retailers should be a victim of this manipulation by certain ulterior motive IB.
The price already between rm4 to 5 back in last year even that time their NP less than 100m, what the current price should be if follow the trend as last year?
My two cents comment on Macquarie Group analyst report today was uncalled for unless it has ulterior motive or bad faith behind it. Prudently at least wait for QTR result to be out before you publish it after the analyst briefing by the company.
Up got ppl happy because gained a lot, down also got ppl happy because can buy lower save a few thousand ringgit per share. So why arguing against each other ? Be happy don't worry, tomorrow can buy Topglov, Supermx, Kossan and Harta at a much lower prices.
PotentialGhost yes, one day will back to normal. One day we will change to 6G phones one ma, why you bother to buy phone now? why you buy 5G phone? Dont buy. Waste of money. ASP will revise, but capacity? Capability to strangle the smaller player with their enormous production capacity and capability to revise their ASP so low that they can starve the small players or brand polishers out of the game?you know how to play this tactic? Now they 26% of whole market share, if you starve them out arh will you be able to secure 5% more? high ASP is a shortcut to raise your profit, what matter most is where your company can go so low in ASP and yet still earn similar profit, by raising your revenue. Do more work, get more business, the life cycle of companies cannot always expect "normal" to be high profit%, they should train themselves to get used to low %profit but still shocking profit. you know why harta gg-ed in this race? you know how much their %profit is pre covid arh? i give you example la, they earned almost 3 times by sell one pc of glove compare to tg selling one pc. Can they stand a ASP reduction? Can TG stand a ASP reduction?
unscrupulous Macquarie ..SC/Bursa needs to investigate them for horrible reporting ...2 reports contradicting each other ..what nonsense. Thank you for highligthing this Fightingdragon
What's Bursa and SC doing!!!!! Sleeping !!!! How can we let this SOTB off! Can someone or TG Management report them? They need to be investigated for SURE.
Always take these so call Analysts advices as a pinch of salt, they may have ulterior bias motives it's normal as they recommend buy or outperform and they are selling instead retailers take the bones and they eat the flesh
Malaysian investors must grow up and stand against such prosperous manipulation by certain irresponsible and ethical practices. These people must be stopped!!!
Analysis is based on facts on hand. Not your prediction. If you want to predict be a shaman"
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Analysts too are shaman. The diffrence is they use number, news, events and chart for their forecast, while shaman use coconuts, jossticks and recite verses from book.
The keyword is FORECAST which is categorically prediction.
All investors, just don't have to look at any warrants from these IBs, focus only on the mother shares,in order to prevent conflict of interest among them, otherwise these kinds of nonsense will emerge again from time to time, and investors will suffer due to this type of trash report.
guys, just don't buy CALL WARRANTS! not only those issued by Macquarie but all d others IBs CALL WARRANTS. all these analysts working for IBs r paid to make money for Institutional Banks. I m sure there will b lesser naysayers in I3 Forum if CALL WARRANTS r ban.
If feel report is not in line, simply just don't follow lah. Amazing, people still treat research report like some holy grail. Use own skill to invest la..want to invest must be confident on own analysis lah instead of blame others if stock go down
if Mcquarie used research report for their own selfish means.. well people will also use social blogs to boycotted for unfair and misleading report. media
Invest on calculation of P/E which is the paper profit of account statement is base on gambling perception,for Top Glove to worth 25 ringgit, it must be able to pay out dividend 80 cents above continuously for future three years ,with these reliable return the investment fund from unit trust or Pension fund will hold the share for long term portfolio investment,otherwise it's meant for short term trading speculation or other word gambling game .In the gambling world there isn't a formulae to guarantee that to ensure you to make money,it's either you win or lose is the finishing solution .Don't blame others,win you take the money,lose you pay !! Be ready to face the consequences even whatever the outcome when you join this gambling game !!!!
TG coming qr will show a massive increase in cash balance due to the deposit taking of forward sales. From previous guidelines issued by the company, it’s 30-40% of sales value at least This is what the IB avoid to mention, the big 4 gloves becoming cash cows
Massive increase in cash balance so what.. how massive can it be. By end of 2021, even if it delivers 11b profit in 1 year - the excess cash will grow to say 15b at most including cash at hand. It's current market cap is 63b. You remove the expected cash generation from the current market cap and divide it by the sustainable net profit of say 1-2b and see what kind of PE you get.
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Posted by witan > 2020-09-10 18:22 | Report Abuse
Haiyah how do you expect them to make more money from you? Now they scare the retailers so they can collect cheap, then after TG impressive QR result they will just write another analyst with their original TP of rm30.40 (before bonus issue). Simple way really